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Species 8472	Posted - 2005.02.08 08:54:00 - [1] I have seen alot of Corporations pple in GANG log out suddenly before they enter a dangerous system wait for numbers to diminish than all log on at the same to attack . PLSE Name the Corps u know of Unfortunately this is true these are what i have seen first hand M0o Atuk FA Anymore or if you support what i say plse post do not FLAME plse dont FLAME "The Weak Will Perish".
AvanCade	Posted - 2005.02.08 09:09:00 - [2] Is this forbidden then ? Its logic or tactic to me. Wait untill someone logs when you have him scrambled. You will find that more annoying.
Hondo Lane	Posted - 2005.02.08 09:18:00 - [3] This is cowardice! I'd rather loose a ship then log like a coward or eject from my ship!
Frost88	Posted - 2005.02.08 09:22:00 - [4] Originally by: Species 8472 I have seen alot of Corporations pple in GANG log out suddenly before they enter a dangerous system wait for numbers to diminish than all log on at the same to attack . PLSE Name the Corps u know of Unfortunately this is true these are what i have seen first hand M0o Atuk FA Anymore or if you support what i say plse post do not FLAME plse dont FLAME You know flamers realise no one likes them doing it, so asking them to 'plse do not FLAME' is only going to encourage them. See? ------------------------------------------------ I've always owned Kehmor, cheap as chips off Ebay
Species 8472	Posted - 2005.02.08 09:24:00 - [5] Quote: Is this forbidden then ? Its logic or tactic to me. No its bloody wrong In other words u cant fight as a force 15-30 strong against even numbers u have to log and hide and get kills that way because u dont have the balls to fight. "The Weak Will Perish".
Hondo Lane	Posted - 2005.02.08 09:34:00 - [6] I don't think it's a matter of flamming so much, as telling the truth we all play the game to have fun. Some of us are PVP'ers some aren't. If you can't PVP fairly then leave the area and don't try.........I have probably lost more ships in the game then anyone, but thats how you learn to pvp. Even some of the guys I have fought or when I was a noob and got pirated were alaways willing to help you learn. Any how Brothers see ya in space.
The Anointed	Posted - 2005.02.08 09:38:00 - [7] Its a tactic, this thread is pointless, get over it. -----[ The Riddle Of Steel Has Been Born ]-----
CYVOK	Posted - 2005.02.08 09:42:00 - [8] Edited by: CYVOK on 08/02/2005 09:42:40 Originally by: AvanCade Is this forbidden then ? Its logic or tactic to me. Wait untill someone logs when you have him scrambled. You will find that more annoying. Let me get this right, the above is a totally legit "tactic" but this would not have been? Thank you Shinra for providing addition proof of my comments concerning (CA/X-CA)
Species 8472	Posted - 2005.02.08 09:42:00 - [9] Edited by: Species 8472 on 08/02/2005 09:54:34 Edited by: Species 8472 on 08/02/2005 09:53:45 Quote: Its a tactic, this thread is pointless, get over it. OMG so u could actually just dissapear in RL like that thats what we should do with all our wars ( eg WW1 WW2 ) think about what u say if this game is suppose to be fair and honest and we are to play by the rules of the game mechanics , we should not be able to just log 1 system before and use this to our advantage than this would be exploitng ,,, but of course it isnt as that would be wrong saying that :))) "The Weak Will Perish".
Hondo Lane	Posted - 2005.02.08 09:43:00 - [10] You must be one of the strategists to that tactic Huh? If you don't like the thread genious then don't respond too it!
Tisti	Posted - 2005.02.08 09:55:00 - [11] Nothing new.. Move along..
Siddy	Posted - 2005.02.08 10:05:00 - [12] well, as a tight corp, if EVE turns boring for varios reasons like enemy saffes or we are Grosly outblobbed, we do not tend to Bore ourself to death by sitting and waiting hours situation to change. Many of us log off and fire up CS to entertain ourself -------------------------------------------
Siddy	Posted - 2005.02.08 10:07:00 - [13] Originally by: Species 8472 Edited by: Species 8472 on 08/02/2005 09:54:34 Edited by: Species 8472 on 08/02/2005 09:53:45 Quote: Its a tactic, this thread is pointless, get over it. OMG so u could actually just dissapear in RL like that thats what we should do with all our wars ( eg WW1 WW2 ) think about what u say if this game is suppose to be fair and honest and we are to play by the rules of the game mechanics , we should not be able to just log 1 system before and use this to our advantage than this would be exploitng ,,, but of course it isnt as that would be wrong saying that :))) What does WW1 or 2 has to do anything With Enemy Massivly Logging on or Safespotting? And as a Rubra, i dont think you have Faced much "fairness" from FA ... -------------------------------------------
Species 8472	Posted - 2005.02.08 10:07:00 - [14] but do you all get on TS have a spy logged in than all suddenly log on to gank 2-4 ships IF so this wrong "The Weak Will Perish".
Siddy	Posted - 2005.02.08 10:08:00 - [15] Originally by: Species 8472 but do you all get on TS have a spy logged in than all suddenly log on to gank 2-4 ships IF so this wrong cry me a niagara falls.... -------------------------------------------
Hondo Lane	Posted - 2005.02.08 10:11:00 - [16] You know I'm starting to like this Siddy guy he makes sense! Oh well it's just a game let's play and have fun.
Sphalerite	Posted - 2005.02.08 10:15:00 - [17] Edited by: Sphalerite on 08/02/2005 10:28:03 There's a HUGE difference between logging off after a battle, when you're blobbed in somewhere, or even when you're off doing something else and log traps. Unless you stay logged into EVE 23/7, plz add yourself to that list.
Species 8472	Posted - 2005.02.08 10:21:00 - [18] I am not talking about logging off if u are blobed I am talking about how pple with a gang say 20+ pple move in log off and wait on ts Than suddenly all 20+ log on again at same time jump in and attack the map doesnt even have chance to update this is wrong Very wrong as its a coward tactic We got camped once by FA were outblobed 30 to 6 so we logged. When we logged back in 1 hr later a guy was in next system we didnt attack him as it would be wrong we aint as low as other corporations whom do this. "The Weak Will Perish".
Siddy	Posted - 2005.02.08 10:28:00 - [19] Originally by: Species 8472 I am not talking about logging off if u are blobed I am talking about how pple with a gang say 20+ pple move in log off and wait on ts Than suddenly all 20+ log on again at same time jump in and attack the map doesnt even have chance to update this is wrong Very wrong as its a coward tactic We got camped once by FA were outblobed 30 to 6 so we logged. When we logged back in 1 hr later a guy was in next system we didnt attack him as it would be wrong we aint as low as other corporations whom do this. The act you described were never Committed by m0o as far as i can recal being in corp your accusations are falce and to say at least, insultting -------------------------------------------
darth solo	Posted - 2005.02.08 13:05:00 - [20] Species 8472 has a point... logging on and off to try and gain an advantage is pretty crappy... but no way possible to police it, so what do we do:(?. will admit, if we are in a system, and a enemy fleet appears thats twice our numbers and scan probes are seen.. we will log off and go do something else.. but where do u draw the line:(. d solo.
Spyglass	Posted - 2005.02.08 13:06:00 - [21] Edited by: Spyglass on 08/02/2005 13:06:42 Does this sound familliar to anyone in m0o? When Camped by a big blob! 1. Log off, gather your forces and attack when the time suits you. Let the idiots attempt to enforce a 24/7 blockade of 30+ ships to keep you out, rest assured after the initial novelty wears off there number's will fall, then you attack and spank them, once you do this generally there finished for the night and you can be feel free to morade around and blast everything. 2.Split your forces up. Do this by just splitting up and going different ways, make them split up there precious blob and they will get terrified without there mass number advantage. You might even be able to engage them if they split up. B. Log off some of your forces and let the rest of your corp fly past you, the blob will follow these and then log back in your forces and since there blob is elsewhere go on a rampage with whats left of there alliance. 3. Most region's have choke points and key systems, main ones been ways to and from empire space. These are great for picking off ships that will continually use them, so hang around them and use hit and run tactics. 4. When you are in control look at the map for targets and fly around to each of them killing them.
DigitalCommunist	Posted - 2005.02.08 13:27:00 - [22] Oh, so let me get this straight.. you've never been on the m0o teamspeak server but you're adept at making accusations that we have people waiting on standby for quick ganks? Please.. I was only born yesterday! What the hell is the point of this thread anyways, where does it even come from. I mean, for somebody who at one point in time wanted to join m0o you're whistling a different tune all of a sudden. Did we gank your cat in PF or something? I can tell you right now, and SHOCK YES I'M A M0O MEMBER SO I'M FIT TO SPEAK FOR MY OWN FREAKING CORP LOL - that we have never done login ganks or login traps or anything bordering on similar. Only newbs like CE and general pvp peons believe it works. Why don't you morons learn the difference between having forces in the next system and having forces logged off. That high horse you're riding is more like a crippled donkey. _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf
MadGaz	Posted - 2005.02.08 13:30:00 - [23] Happenes alot, used to get gangs of people running into Stain space then logging off for a few hours to make sure nobody was camping the system. Nothing can be done though, can't really tell if they've just done it so you're lot will get bored and leave the system, or if they've had to go to sleep or something. I know my corp has a habit of about 8 of us going off at the same time, CS:S rocks ------------------------------------------
Widjet	Posted - 2005.02.08 13:32:00 - [24] Quote: cry me a niagara falls.... STOP STEALING MY LINES !!!1111
The Anointed	Posted - 2005.02.08 13:34:00 - [25] Originally by: Species 8472 Edited by: Species 8472 on 08/02/2005 09:54:34 Edited by: Species 8472 on 08/02/2005 09:53:45 Quote: Its a tactic, this thread is pointless, get over it. OMG so u could actually just dissapear in RL like that thats what we should do with all our wars ( eg WW1 WW2 ) think about what u say if this game is suppose to be fair and honest and we are to play by the rules of the game mechanics , we should not be able to just log 1 system before and use this to our advantage than this would be exploitng ,,, but of course it isnt as that would be wrong saying that :))) Im sorry, I must have missed something here. If we are talking about RL, you show me how to clone myself, fly battleships, and travel to different solar systems in seconds and i'll show you how to dissapear. Cant say fairer than that now can we. Oh, and who ever said this game was fair and honest! Are you playing a different game to the rest of us? -----[ The Riddle Of Steel Has Been Born ]-----
Verone	Posted - 2005.02.08 13:57:00 - [26] it's a tactic.... YEAH RIGHT. i can see someone getting mugged in a back alley in RL saying... omg wait... don't punch me out... i need to log out to save the contents of my wallet. get a grip, logging out is the lowest of the low, second only to corp thievery. people who log out should have their nuts removed with a blunt rusty breadknife, then be immediatley dumped in a barrel of salt. end of story. COME AND SOCIALISE WITH US NASTY SNIGG BASTARDS AT : WWW.SNIGG.CJB.NET
Val Amon	Posted - 2005.02.08 14:04:00 - [27] That was the big thing that turned me off to fighting in U-Q was the reserve force at the safe that would always show up out of nowhere to reinforce the 36N gate. _ _ How many pilots does it take to wire a Flux Capacitor? 3, 1 to wire it and 2 to talk about how the old one was better.
LoxyRider	Posted - 2005.02.08 14:31:00 - [28] Speaking for ATUK. We do NOT do log in traps of any sort. We DO however log off :p. When we are in situations where theres no targets or heavily out numbered or simply tired we arrange for our breaks. At this point you may see most of a gang log off to stretch their legs, get some food etc.. This is never at a gate with a spy still online to tell us when to log on or in the middle of a battle exactly. It just makes more sense to grab a bite to eat then sit in a safe spot for an hour or two. ----- Eris Discordia; I think the proper term is <3
Lallante	Posted - 2005.02.08 15:05:00 - [29] Originally by: Species 8472 I am not talking about logging off if u are blobed I am talking about how pple with a gang say 20+ pple move in log off and wait on ts Than suddenly all 20+ log on again at same time jump in and attack the map doesnt even have chance to update this is wrong Very wrong as its a coward tactic We got camped once by FA were outblobed 30 to 6 so we logged. When we logged back in 1 hr later a guy was in next system we didnt attack him as it would be wrong we aint as low as other corporations whom do this. Same As what siddy said, This kind of act is not done. Synchronised log offs make total sense: Its 3.30am in the morning and 5 people want to go to bed, well the other 10 might as well too, thereby limiting the possibility of enemy ganks. Synchronised logins likewise arnt a bad thing: We all go forlunch and meet back at 2pm. w00t. The thing that is bad, is logging on and WArPING straight in to surprise an enemy, and this is something we simply wont do. If you cant see the distinction, then you are simply a tard who is upset that he got owned. Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
Attrezzo Pox	Posted - 2005.02.08 15:13:00 - [30] I don't usually knock CCP, but in most games logging out is at key times is supposed to be cheating. Anyway, they tried to do somehthing about this with a logout time which some agree should be longer, but most of the time is to offer a better solution. Example, the easiest way to get people to stop logging out, perhaps put a lock timer on a ship when you log back in, and also set up a cloaking skill so that you don't show up in local or on the map. This way people would be more likely to train up the cloaking skills and use legal tactics then logging out. Right now however it's an obvious advantage that people are going to take whenever they can. Any smart commander would because right now that's THE ONLY way to hide your numbers.

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