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J Kunjeh Gallente	Posted - 2011.04.27 20:55:00 - [1] (with thanks to Cake) I'm currently not PVP'ing, and have only PVP'd against my will...and lost, of course. But I intend to at some point and I'm just trying to find out what others are doing to bankroll their habit. So how do you? I'm interested to hear from small corp PVP'rs, or solo players, on what they do in Eve to afford their barrel roll lifestyle? And how difficult is it to maintain? PVP'ing is anything but cheap (unless you're the victor that is). So? ~Gnosis~
JC Anderson Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2011.04.27 21:16:00 - [2] Noir pays their pilots. ;) However, most of us still mission, or mine, or whatever else on the side in-between contracts to make extra income. Boring, but oh well...
Wedding Peach	Posted - 2011.04.27 21:17:00 - [3] I do exploration. Low sec requires a bit of cloakie work. Null sec requires a bit of standings and having the proper tools out there. -------------------------------------------------- I am the Love Angel, Wedding Peach, and I am very displeased by your lack of love!
J Kunjeh Gallente	Posted - 2011.04.27 21:23:00 - [4] Originally by: JC Anderson Noir pays their pilots. ;) Yeah, it seems like the bigger corps have a ship replacement program of some kind (or pay...even better). Which is nice, but what about the pilots in small corps/gangs? ~Gnosis~
Herrring Amarr National Quality Breaker	Posted - 2011.04.27 21:29:00 - [5] Originally by: J Kunjeh Originally by: JC Anderson Noir pays their pilots. ;) Yeah, it seems like the bigger corps have a ship replacement program of some kind (or pay...even better). Which is nice, but what about the pilots in small corps/gangs? I do exploration on the side. It pays pretty well if you know where to look and have decent skills.
Blind Man Caldari Point Blank Carebears	Posted - 2011.04.27 21:29:00 - [6] Back in the good old days we made money from PvP.
JC Anderson Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2011.04.27 21:37:00 - [7] Exploration can make decent money as pointed out above.
Limvala Adur Gallente 0ne Percent.	Posted - 2011.04.27 21:40:00 - [8] Edited by: Limvala Adur on 27/04/2011 21:41:18 I live in a WH and from time to time attend PVE ops that bring me decent ISK. I'm not rich by all means, but I'm able to fully support my PVP life with only one character. That said, I do pvp a lot and loose often, but that's because I'm in the middle of the learning process and because I tend to use t1 cruisers/ rarely BCs and solo with them. It's pretty cheap and doesn't hurt the KB if you manage to kill something from time to time. Also, it's great fun and quite important as a learning experience. - LA
J Kunjeh Gallente	Posted - 2011.04.27 21:40:00 - [9] Originally by: JC Anderson Exploration can make decent money as pointed out above. What kind of exploration specifically? For what type of sites? ~Gnosis~
Herrring Amarr National Quality Breaker	Posted - 2011.04.27 21:45:00 - [10] Originally by: J Kunjeh Originally by: JC Anderson Exploration can make decent money as pointed out above. What kind of exploration specifically? For what type of sites? Just normal exploration sites, radar site, combat sites and such. I just go explore for a couple days and if I get lucky I will net a bil or two. After that, I just don't farm isk until i go low.
Jennifer Starling Imperial Navy Forum Patrol	Posted - 2011.04.27 21:49:00 - [11] Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 27/04/2011 21:51:09 It kind of depends on what PvP you do, in what ships and how often you lose them :) I have a PvP alt that can fly everything up to battlecruisers. A fitted t1 frigate may cost 10 million, a t2 frigate up to 30 mil, a Hurricane say 50-60 mil, t2 cruiser stuff is more expensive. My main is a mission runner and I can also invent and make my owns ships, modules and t2 ammo. Mission running earns like 25+ mil an hour. So it's not that hard to replace stuff.
Micky rox	Posted - 2011.04.27 21:58:00 - [12] Originally by: Jennifer Starling Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 27/04/2011 21:51:09 Mission running earns like 25+ mil an hour. So it's not that hard to replace stuff. But they are SOOOO boring crys Tbh I never really play eve like I use to because everything has become one massive grind... @op However I make my isk through various means, trading, exploration and missions sometimes but they pay **** isk and not even worth the time imo.
Federation Agent 911	Posted - 2011.04.27 22:04:00 - [13] I'm about to try wormholes myself. I haven't found much success keeping up with my losses via mission running. It's just too time consuming with a single account and doesn't produce enough isk. Having more skillpoints helps though. I'm definitely doing a lot better for myself (loosing less, that's for sure) than when I only had a few million sp.
Gramps Pank	Posted - 2011.04.27 22:14:00 - [14] I sell highly overpriced frigates to morons.
sableye principle of motion	Posted - 2011.04.27 22:16:00 - [15] I invested everything I had into a bank ----------------------------------------- View The North Star! In All Its Glory!!
Pajama Sam SniggWaffe FREE KARTTOON NOW	Posted - 2011.04.27 22:16:00 - [16] Botting.
Istvaan Shogaatsu Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2011.04.27 22:33:00 - [17] I don't even know. I just log into this game and suddenly I have lots of money.
Blnukem 192 Amarr Shadows of the Empire	Posted - 2011.04.27 22:48:00 - [18] Edited by: Blnukem 192 on 27/04/2011 22:48:16 Missions are common amongst most PVP'ers (at least all the ones I know), but the best way to cut down on the costs is to simply die less often. Originally by: CCP Navigator This is really not worthy of a thread.
Vincent Athena	Posted - 2011.04.27 22:50:00 - [19] EVE has PvP?
Geisladiskur	Posted - 2011.04.27 23:07:00 - [20] It's not that hard 1 start convo 2 ask for ransom 3 ??? 4 profit worked well for me so far, been a long time since I had to do any stinking pve stuff in this game.
Terianna Eri Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn	Posted - 2011.04.27 23:31:00 - [21] I toil away at the meager offerings available to me in anomalies in Pure Blind, because while living in empire would be more lucrative it is also less fun. ________________ Originally by: CCP Incognito PS the "time to P*nis" is the shortest time recorded in human history. :)
Demolishar	Posted - 2011.04.28 00:18:00 - [22] Tackle ship Ask for ransom If they give it to you, ask for more Destroy ship anyway Scramble pod Ask for ransom Kill it anyway Offer to sell their stuff back to them It's A Scam! Turns out they want to become a pvper just like you Invite them to your corp Get their stuff for "transportation" Scam them AGAIN! Gank them. Ransom them. Dishonor ransom. Ransom pod. Dishonor ransom. It may be hard to manage the full list. This is how your pvp encounters should go for maximum profitability.
Lost Greybeard	Posted - 2011.04.28 01:56:00 - [23] I do missions when I'm making money with corpmates, but recently I've been focusing more on doing things while I'm out hunting that make isk. So I'll do things like run radar sites when I'm in WHs and can't find anyone to shoot. I've also come up with a cunning plan involving putting gas harvesters on a bait ship when setting up an ambush... if no one's dumb enough to take the bait, eh, free fullerites. --- If you outlaw tautologies, only outlaws will have tautologies. ~Anonymous
Patient 2428190 DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School	Posted - 2011.04.28 02:04:00 - [24] By not dying ...Then when you stopped to think about it. All you really said was Lalala.
Different Tan	Posted - 2011.04.28 02:09:00 - [25] Bby doing sanctu... ooops no by grinding level four missions in empire. Sheep go to heaven, Goats: go to hell.
Scuttle Bunny Amarr	Posted - 2011.04.28 02:15:00 - [26] Incursions, sanctums (blarg).... 10/10 escalations... manufacturing All the regular isk faucets. All have taken me tyhe grand time of perhaps a couple weeks to find out/manage/skill up (on 3 chars) i bid thee well in your search of your answers OP, for here, here you shall find not much but repetitive and samey answers, for this, this is the general discussions topic... yarrharr And now....The sound.... The sound of Jupiter!! "wahhhaaalllwahhaaalllaawwahhallawahh"
Mar Lee An Army of None	Posted - 2011.04.28 02:18:00 - [27] Trade alt. You may need to run some missions to build up seed money, but trading - especially station trading - has the highest ISK-to-time ratio of any profession in EVE. Spending ten minutes a day messing with buy and sell orders is enough to keep me stocked up on PLEX and Hurricanes. (Oh yeah, that's step 2: don't PVP in billion-ISK ships.)
Guilliman R Gallente Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E	Posted - 2011.04.28 02:30:00 - [28] Used to rat at 100m/hour, now I just do invention for 3B/month, very casually, also pi. ------ http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4441/evesigr.jpg
TImora Fosty Solar Pride Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2011.04.28 05:21:00 - [29] Quote: How do you afford your PVP lifestyle? e a s i l y
Skydell Caldari Morrigna Order	Posted - 2011.04.28 06:36:00 - [30] Edited by: Skydell on 28/04/2011 06:40:15 I find winning helps. Its easy. BLOB If there are 10? Bring 100 If there are 100? Bring 1000 If there are 1000? Break the ****in server!!!
Irani Firecam Gallente Lords 0f Justice Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2011.04.28 07:34:00 - [31] 100% corporate tax rate.
Tom Sasaki	Posted - 2011.04.28 07:37:00 - [32] Back in the IT days it was easy Reimbursement + Insurance > ship cost. Basicly being paid to PvP. Now I have to use my margintrading alt for revenue generation.
Darius Brinn Iberians	Posted - 2011.04.28 08:15:00 - [33] My corp does wars. All the loot goes to the corp and sold. Every couple of weeks, corp expenses are deducted (POS fuel, wars), then the remaining amount is divided among the number of total kills. This yields a certain amount of ISK per kill. Let's say 8 or 10 million ISK/kill, average. After that, it's easy. You got 20 kills in those days? You get 160-200 millions. You don't kill > you get nothing. You kill a lot > you get hundreds of millions, or even billions. The good thing is that rich kills (freighters, etc) improve the quality of the isk/kill ratio for everyone. If you're unlucky and you only get thrash through gates, but your buddies score a big hit, everybody benefits. As long as you participate in the kills. I am not very active at all nowadays, but real PvPers in my corp fund themselves with this system perfectly fine, doing nothing but killing war targets and people in 0.0 Add another account for mission running/mining/whatever, and there you are. Losses covered and accounts paid for.
Ania Hyperthron	Posted - 2011.04.28 08:18:00 - [34] Edited by: Ania Hyperthron on 28/04/2011 08:20:21 http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1499309
Anton Veidt	Posted - 2011.04.28 08:54:00 - [35] How much ISK you need depends on how much you spend which (for a pvper) depends how how many ships you have, how much you pimp them and how often you lose them. If, like me, your need to own stuff is modest and you don't die much you can get by fine with less than a billion ISK per character. I made my first billion by selling a few GTCs to raise some capital and then trading stuff in empire. You'll need some ISK before you start doing this so that you can buy cheaply in bulk and afford to wait until everything sells. Once you've identified your market and have 20-30 orders up ISK will start to trickle in. Where you go from there is up to you. Also don't forget to pvp in what you can afford to lose. It doesn't matter how much ISK you make, if you lose ships that cost more than you can replace eventually you will run short of ISK. If you are new to pvp, fly cheap as you'll make lots of mistakes so you shouldn't be afraid of dying a lot - instead expect it and budget accordingly. As you become more confident and experienced you can spend more on your fleet but never sink all your ISK into a single ship. Good Luck!
Dazram Two	Posted - 2011.04.28 09:10:00 - [36] Since the sanctum and haven nerf, I've turned to more efficient PI and using smaller cheaper T2 ships to be able to keep up. Working out decently I think.
StealthGerbils Tovarsky Pharmaceuticals	Posted - 2011.04.28 09:17:00 - [37] get paid to lose ships its nice having reimbursements for pretty much every ship you would want to fly :3
Kashimir Otoko no Baito	Posted - 2011.04.28 10:21:00 - [38] Station camping. A bit of patience in waiting for haulers to undock can earn you billions :)
Meridith Akesia Stimulus	Posted - 2011.04.28 10:23:00 - [39] I dont log in.
Zangorus	Posted - 2011.04.28 10:30:00 - [40] PI would do it.
Iogrim	Posted - 2011.04.28 10:43:00 - [41] 2 industry alts. ~5bil/month for hour a day work.
Barakkus	Posted - 2011.04.28 11:21:00 - [42] Make POS fuel with PI, that will get you around 500 mil a month without even having to play more than 20-30 minutes a day. - - [SERVICE] Corp Standings For POS anchoring
HeliosGal Caldari	Posted - 2011.04.28 11:34:00 - [43] max out scanning skills or buy alt. Learn what signature exploration sites yeild the most isk. Or the easy way of fidning direct 00 wormholes ( trade secret) so pve Otherwise pvp loot sell Suicide ganking afk haulers in empire with bil hauls is good Not dying of course and flying in small gangs avoding the big ones and shooting targets u can kill Suicide gank hulks Find offline poses Fly a grup of expensive ships as long as u have scouts and good tactics u can pawn anything that moves War decs on empire carebear corps Killing bots in 00 ( takes some strategy and patience)
knobber Jobbler Executive Intervention Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2011.04.28 11:58:00 - [44] Edited by: knobber Jobbler on 28/04/2011 12:00:10 GTC's. I don't have time to do the PVE bit to sustain my PVP. I have one account, 1 main, never had an alt account. I used to station trade to make ISK but can't be bothered with that any more. I figure I earn enough real money to not have to worry about spending time doing something I don't want to do, to enable me to do something I want to do. I also augment my income by buying cheap contract deals whereever I see them and reselling them one way or the other to make a profit. Its also helped that I've adjusted my play style to not having vast amounts of time and ISK any more. I usually fly logistics which I get 100% replaced by my alliance or other ship types which they reimburse or provide hulls for. If I fly outside alliance or coalition fleets/ctas I fly cheap and disposable ships like SB's, cruisers, Interceptors, AF's, dictors and BC's. Not dying also helps keeps costs down, as does not suicide podding and only one of my jump clones has any sort of implants which are +3's. Got to that point where SP's and training as fast as possible isn't such an issue anymore.
Tom Sasaki	Posted - 2011.04.28 13:03:00 - [45] Originally by: knobber Jobbler Edited by: knobber Jobbler on 28/04/2011 12:00:10 GTC's. I don't have time to do the PVE bit to sustain my PVP. I have one account, 1 main, never had an alt account. I used to station trade to make ISK but can't be bothered with that any more. I figure I earn enough real money to not have to worry about spending time doing something I don't want to do, to enable me to do something I want to do. I also augment my income by buying cheap contract deals whereever I see them and reselling them one way or the other to make a profit. Its also helped that I've adjusted my play style to not having vast amounts of time and ISK any more. I usually fly logistics which I get 100% replaced by my alliance or other ship types which they reimburse or provide hulls for. If I fly outside alliance or coalition fleets/ctas I fly cheap and disposable ships like SB's, cruisers, Interceptors, AF's, dictors and BC's. Not dying also helps keeps costs down, as does not suicide podding and only one of my jump clones has any sort of implants which are +3's. Got to that point where SP's and training as fast as possible isn't such an issue anymore. Ehh arent your alliance part of the richest coalition in eve? How the hell can you not have 100% reimbursement programs? RMTing leaders or?
J Kunjeh Gallente	Posted - 2011.04.28 13:45:00 - [46] Very interesting responses. It runs the gamut, which is about what I expected, but there are some interesting tidbits in there (PI can make you that much!? I started PI this past weekend so I don't know yet where it'll take me, but happy to hear if I do it right it has a bright ISK future). Thanks all. ~Gnosis~
Morrow Disca Reikoku Cascade Imminent	Posted - 2011.04.28 14:38:00 - [47] Fly cheap and learn to win. I'm good at the first part, never did get the hang of the latter. T1 cruisers, BC's, Ass frigs, all easy to fly and cheap to buy. Pick your fights and learn to gtfo when the situation goes south. Really its a silly question, how do you earn money in general? Just balance your PVP time against your PVE time. You shoudl be asking 'how can i get good at PVP without loosing lots of isk?' As you learn more about PVP, your losses will get less and you'll be able to spend more time on it and less time on PVE.
J Kunjeh Gallente	Posted - 2011.04.28 14:43:00 - [48] Originally by: Morrow Disca Fly cheap and learn to win. I'm good at the first part, never did get the hang of the latter. T1 cruisers, BC's, Ass frigs, all easy to fly and cheap to buy. Pick your fights and learn to gtfo when the situation goes south. Really its a silly question, how do you earn money in general? Just balance your PVP time against your PVE time. You shoudl be asking 'how can i get good at PVP without loosing lots of isk?' As you learn more about PVP, your losses will get less and you'll be able to spend more time on it and less time on PVE. Good advice. And yeah, sort of a silly question, because it's not like I don't know oodles about all the ways to make ISK in Eve, I was just curious to hear some personal tales and anecdotes about how others are doing it without the help of a huge corp/alliance wallet. ~Gnosis~
Neamus	Posted - 2011.04.28 14:56:00 - [49] Station trading is a lucrative activity and fairly low effort with only minor SP requirements. Buy low, sell high, etc. But the real trick to making isk without burning yourself out is to diversify. Keep your PvP character where the action is and then fill any time left over with a couple of low effort isk making activities. If I want fast isk, up to a couple of hundred mil then I'll run a few missions or rat, otherwise I have steady income from invention and station trading. I'm also tempted by PI but I've heard it can be allot of grief to get going so I'm not sure on that yet.
Xavier Zedicus Paradigm Council	Posted - 2011.04.28 15:04:00 - [50] Lowsec missions
Kyle Renton	Posted - 2011.04.28 15:52:00 - [51] Join the EOH Games and EOH Poker channels. Play poker... ...profit. If you learn how to play decently, you can easily fund yuor PvP. If you turn out how to play very well and build up to the big games, you can roll in ISK. For an example check out the thread in Character Forum by xProphetx, he won 10b last night and just bought himself another alt to have fun with...
Cadhla Ovsanna Caldari United Kings R.A.G.E	Posted - 2011.04.28 16:00:00 - [52] i personally like to flash people for isk.... and then kill them after i get the isk, it's very effective =]
J Kunjeh Gallente	Posted - 2011.04.28 16:03:00 - [53] Originally by: Kyle Renton Join the EOH Games and EOH Poker channels. Play poker... ...profit. Yeah, I suck at poker. But I've been wanting to try some of the lottery games...maybe when my wallet is fat with ISK. ~Gnosis~
knobber Jobbler Executive Intervention Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2011.04.28 16:05:00 - [54] Originally by: Tom Sasaki Originally by: knobber Jobbler Edited by: knobber Jobbler on 28/04/2011 12:00:10 GTC's. I don't have time to do the PVE bit to sustain my PVP. I have one account, 1 main, never had an alt account. I used to station trade to make ISK but can't be bothered with that any more. I figure I earn enough real money to not have to worry about spending time doing something I don't want to do, to enable me to do something I want to do. I also augment my income by buying cheap contract deals whereever I see them and reselling them one way or the other to make a profit. Its also helped that I've adjusted my play style to not having vast amounts of time and ISK any more. I usually fly logistics which I get 100% replaced by my alliance or other ship types which they reimburse or provide hulls for. If I fly outside alliance or coalition fleets/ctas I fly cheap and disposable ships like SB's, cruisers, Interceptors, AF's, dictors and BC's. Not dying also helps keeps costs down, as does not suicide podding and only one of my jump clones has any sort of implants which are +3's. Got to that point where SP's and training as fast as possible isn't such an issue anymore. Ehh arent your alliance part of the richest coalition in eve? How the hell can you not have 100% reimbursement programs? RMTing leaders or? Sorry faceless alt, you must be confusing WTF and the NC with the DRF. At least where WTF is concerned the reimbursment program is pretty good but so is the industry and strategic logistics to support that.
J Kunjeh Gallente	Posted - 2011.04.28 16:06:00 - [55] Originally by: Cadhla Ovsanna i personally like to flash people for isk.... and then kill them after i get the isk, it's very effective =] Do you really need to kill them after flashing? Haven't they already dropped dead by that point? ~Gnosis~

CCP Zymurgist Gallente C C P	Posted - 2011.04.28 16:06:00 - [56] PI, Mining while watching TV, and R&D keep me in just enough ships to go to low sec every now and die in a massive ball of fire . Zymurgist Community Representative CCP NA, EVE Online Contact Us

Wen Jaibao Aperture Harmonics K162	Posted - 2011.04.28 16:08:00 - [57] Sleepers and PI. Not dying helps too.
Cadhla Ovsanna Caldari United Kings R.A.G.E	Posted - 2011.04.28 16:09:00 - [58] Originally by: J Kunjeh Originally by: Cadhla Ovsanna i personally like to flash people for isk.... and then kill them after i get the isk, it's very effective =] Do you really need to kill them after flashing? Haven't they already dropped dead by that point? you're right, there really is no need... i am pretty gorgeous....
Muad 'dib Caldari The Imperial Fedaykin	Posted - 2011.04.28 16:12:00 - [59] a meber of my corp makes his moneys by doing missions, or if hes got some isk already he plays sommers blink, and wins at a disgusting rate. wish i was that lucky. Meep Meep!
J Kunjeh Gallente	Posted - 2011.04.28 16:14:00 - [60] Originally by: Cadhla Ovsanna Originally by: J Kunjeh Originally by: Cadhla Ovsanna i personally like to flash people for isk.... and then kill them after i get the isk, it's very effective =] Do you really need to kill them after flashing? Haven't they already dropped dead by that point? you're right, there really is no need... i am pretty gorgeous.... Lol....well, that's not exactly how I meant it...but yeah. ~Gnosis~
J Kunjeh Gallente	Posted - 2011.04.28 16:16:00 - [61] Originally by: CCP Zymurgist PI, Mining while watching TV, and R&D keep me in just enough ships to go to low sec every now and die in a massive ball of fire . Lol...sounds about right to me. Good, I'm on the right track then. ~Gnosis~
Ripley Nostromo	Posted - 2011.04.28 16:16:00 - [62] Simple for me. I buy 2-3 GTC's a month to trade for ISK. That gives me 2 Billion a month with not having to do any grinding I'm not interested in doing.... Woot !
Cadhla Ovsanna Caldari United Kings R.A.G.E	Posted - 2011.04.28 16:18:00 - [63] Lol....well, that's not exactly how I meant it...but yeah. :p i charm my way into isk...
Karash Amerius Sutoka	Posted - 2011.04.28 16:19:00 - [64] If you are looking NOT to grind out isk in off hours/times while part of a small pvp corp or rolling solo, I would recommend you do exploration in lowsec. Also, start raiding C1 and C2 wormholes if you can. That gives you two things...the first is making isk, and the second is you might find some "pickup" pvp opportunities. I have found this the be the best fit. Speaking of fits, they can get a bit weird since you will not be fitted optimally for a PVE environment, so use your best judgement on that L5 DED site you find. ========================= Karash Amerius - Operative - Sutoka Fighting Broke - A Eve Online Blog =========================
Thallus Tage	Posted - 2011.04.28 17:17:00 - [65] I'm fairly new to the game. But I keep seeing exploration come up as a way of making money in low sec. Can you define how it makes you isk? And what skills you'd need?
Liang Nuren	Posted - 2011.04.28 17:26:00 - [66] Trade alt, T1 manufacturing, capital manufacturing, missioning, exploration, and wormholes. -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter
J Kunjeh Gallente	Posted - 2011.04.28 17:35:00 - [67] Originally by: Ripley Nostromo Simple for me. I buy 2-3 GTC's a month to trade for ISK. That gives me 2 Billion a month with not having to do any grinding I'm not interested in doing.... Woot ! Yeah, I figured I'd get at least a few of these responses. I think it's great that they implemented PLEX. Not just for the fact that it helps to combat macro'ing and RMT, but for the fact that it allows players with more money than time to still make enough ISK to support their chosen play style. ~Gnosis~
Jenn aSide	Posted - 2011.04.28 17:37:00 - [68] Edited by: Jenn aSide on 28/04/2011 17:37:09 The majority of my isk comes from null exploration. In "peace time" (lol) I simply bust anoms in a more or less secured upgraded system with my Machariel (screw your Sanctum nerf CCP, I kept the 25mil a tick train rollin with Hubs :) ) and enjoy the escalations/faction spawns as bonuses. When we don't have secure space like that for some reason, Ninja exploration in neutral/hostile space is a blast. It's pure fun to do a 10/10 escalation in the enemy Alliance's HOME SYSTEM while also bagging a few "real people" kills lol. T3 and DPS Stealth Bombers make it easy :) .
K F C	Posted - 2011.04.28 18:27:00 - [69] Originally by: J Kunjeh Originally by: JC Anderson Noir pays their pilots. ;) Yeah, it seems like the bigger corps have a ship replacement program of some kind (or pay...even better). Which is nice, but what about the pilots in small corps/gangs? We currently live in 0.0, and we just belt rat, and other members have their industrial pursuits but its pretty easy to make cash
Val'Dore Word Bearers of Chaos Word of Chaos Undivided	Posted - 2011.04.28 18:42:00 - [70] Originally by: J Kunjeh Originally by: JC Anderson Noir pays their pilots. ;) Yeah, it seems like the bigger corps have a ship replacement program of some kind (or pay...even better). Which is nice, but what about the pilots in small corps/gangs? The Alliance has a Proto Pay System in the works for when I actually start it going and stop logging in just to forum *****. Our scale is based on the kill itself, not how many people participated. So ten killing one will make less individually than two killing one. ~No matter what happens, somebody will find a way to take it too seriously.~ Tiericide
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.04.28 18:46:00 - [71] Originally by: CCP Zymurgist PI, Mining while watching TV, and R&D keep me in just enough ships to go to low sec every now and die in a massive ball of fire . CCP devs may also play the game as regular players? Auditing \| Research \| 3rd Party \| Collateral Holding \| EvE RL Charity
Catheryn Martobi	Posted - 2011.04.28 20:49:00 - [72] Originally by: CCP Zymurgist PI, Mining while watching TV, and R&D keep me in just enough ships to go to low sec every now and die in a massive ball of fire . You should just spawn and sell Titans. Whats the worst that could happen?
Xzar Fyrarr Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2011.04.28 21:26:00 - [73] Depends on what type of ships you fly I would assume. I have been flying AFs quite frequently lately. Base hull would be around 20mill. Fittings would range anywhere from as cheap as 10mill, to as expensive as 45mill. [I like fitting deadspace and faction stuff.] Venal 0.0 Rats > Any level 4 mission. More fun. More risk. More Swag. When I'm in empire space, whatever I can find in low sec. Was lucky the other day and got 2 Gisti B Type Small shield boosters and a Dark Blood Thermic Hardener. If I ever get back to ninja salvaging/theifing, that is an excellent source of income. But... I don't believe in PvE anymore. Everything in this game, more or less, has some aspect of PvP in it. ------------------------------------------------ One Cannot Fully Appreciate Peace Until They Have Experienced True Pain. ------------------------------------------------- - Xzar Fyrarr ;
Geronima Jones	Posted - 2011.04.29 18:45:00 - [74] Edited by: Geronima Jones on 29/04/2011 18:46:48 I buy plexes .. I only fly cruisers and bc's in combat, and I'm very careful when I pick my engagements so I don't lose many ships.. I've got a great job, so 15 bucks here and there is not a big deal.. Removes 100% of the grind from EVE.. occasionally I run missions.. but when I do its' just for lawls or to help a friend I don't really care about making my isk/hour.
FatRaps	Posted - 2011.04.29 18:57:00 - [75] Suicide gank idiots in crap ships on autopilot
Ayieka	Posted - 2011.04.29 19:06:00 - [76] is it you or your corp on this income tax bracket?
Kazuo Ishiguro House of Marbles	Posted - 2011.04.29 20:30:00 - [77] Originally by: Demolishar Tackle ship Ask for ransom If they give it to you, ask for more Destroy ship anyway Scramble pod Ask for ransom Kill it anyway Offer to sell their stuff back to them It's A Scam! Turns out they want to become a pvper just like you Invite them to your corp Get their stuff for "transportation" Scam them AGAIN! Gank them. Ransom them. Dishonor ransom. Ransom pod. Dishonor ransom. It may be hard to manage the full list. This is how your pvp encounters should go for maximum profitability. Has anyone ever managed the full list? I'd have thought most victims would have caught on well before the 6th scam in succession. --- 34.4:1 mineral compression
Triple Entendre Deliciously Vicious	Posted - 2011.04.29 21:50:00 - [78] Mostly prayer, luck and EOH.
The Forum Twins	Posted - 2011.04.30 02:03:00 - [79] A combination of datacore alts, ransome, and occasionally dropping into wormholes for raids. Although my biggest payday this month was fleecing NC pets as they fled geminate.

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