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Janet Patton
Brony Express
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Posted - 2012.09.05 02:59:00 -
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There has obviously been plenty incentive to be in low/null sec since the value of those ores have crashed. We need more people mining high sec ore. :) Why do I have this sig? I don't smoke. |
Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
554
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Posted - 2012.09.05 03:01:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Maybe he's trying to prove a point, that sadly seems to be one that many of you are incapable of understanding.You are not defenseless and you never were. If you don't want to be pushed around, do something about it. Otherwise you deserve everything you get. "trying to prove a point"? You mean with his Ted Kaczynski manifestos? yeah... *THAT'S* what it is...
Interdict Hi-Sec - it's the only way to be sure... |
Historical Research Advocate
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.09.05 03:02:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:At present I am pushed to find a belt that hasn't been mined out by greedy bots and the mining 'community' needs to be displaced. At present it's more crowded than the M1 during rush hour. ITT: Spank pretends to have a need for roid-filled belts |
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
40
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Posted - 2012.09.05 05:45:00 -
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Awww did the nullbear get Concorded again? Join Us |
Jack Miton
Bite Me inc Elysian Empire
535
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Posted - 2012.09.05 07:10:00 -
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+1 |
Aramatheia
European Nuthouse
53
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Posted - 2012.09.05 07:43:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote: People play Eve for the spaceships, give them a reason to earn their shiny toys.
so why not allow them too? theres PLENTY of low/null exclusive ships already. Alright, fine, you can take my hulk but only if you give me your rorqual. Sounds fair right? |
Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
576
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Posted - 2012.09.05 08:39:00 -
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Allow cynos in highsec and bombs in lowsec. Dominique Vasilkovsky Mashie Saldana Monica Foulkes |
Seleia O'Sinnor
Drop of Honey
255
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Posted - 2012.09.05 09:09:00 -
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Ah yes I totally forgot that CCP changed Hisec belts to spawn ABC and merx. No incentive to go out there any more... New inventory: Getting better since version 1.2, but what about back and forward buttons? |
Osabojo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
253
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Posted - 2012.09.05 13:02:00 -
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Volar Kang wrote:James 315 wrote:I don't know what the deal is either. I'm apparently some kind of boogeyman and everyone's alt. I get blamed for a lot of stuff, but I don't actually post on any alts! Well, to be honest, you sit in a newb corp so you cant be war-decced and push defenseless miners around. Its kinda like being a policeman who picks on kids at the first grade recess. You are obviously capable of anything, I would rather imagine that posting with an alt would be one of your more manly acts.
Such GÇ£wisdomGÇ¥ does not come down from heaven but is earthly, unspiritual, demonic. |
Valari Nala Zena
Perkone Caldari State
44
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Posted - 2012.09.05 14:04:00 -
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Rorquals in high sec is what i'm thinking. |
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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
1123
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Posted - 2012.09.05 15:09:00 -
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nat longshot wrote:Lady Spank wrote:Most Americans have no business with a gun but you don't see them getting banned there even though it is the most logical thing to do. well given iam a Amercan are you? dont sound like it from that post.
Please don't admit that out loud again.
I was going to give you a pass on your atrocious spelling, grammar and punctuation, hoping English wasn't your primary language.
I am thoroughly ashamed to admit you live in the same country as I do. Please report to the nearest high school and return your diploma in an envelope marked, "Unearned".
(going for more popcorn and returning to page 2.)
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
617
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Posted - 2012.09.05 15:24:00 -
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Valari Nala Zena wrote:Rorquals in high sec is what i'm thinking. No. Hell no. http://themittani.com/features/local-problem A simple fix to the local intel problem |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
2746
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Posted - 2012.09.05 15:27:00 -
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War Kitten wrote:nat longshot wrote:Lady Spank wrote:Most Americans have no business with a gun but you don't see them getting banned there even though it is the most logical thing to do. well given iam a Amercan are you? dont sound like it from that post. Please don't admit that out loud again. I was going to give you a pass on your atrocious spelling, grammar and punctuation, hoping English wasn't your primary language. I am thoroughly ashamed to admit you live in the same country as I do. Please report to the nearest high school and return your diploma in an envelope marked, "Unearned". (going for more popcorn and returning to page 2.)
Please leave your gun at home while doing so. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Piugattuk
CLOROFLORFILAPLANKTONPLATES
37
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Posted - 2012.09.05 15:34:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:These ships are designed for deep space operation and using them in high sec is overkill.
Either allow use of bombs, warp bubbles and capitals in high sec or also remove these specialised ships from use in high.
What is the point of low and null sec industrial 'content' if you are going to give no incentive for being out there. People play Eve for the spaceships, give them a reason to earn their shiny toys.
At present I am pushed to find a belt that hasn't been mined out by greedy bots and the mining 'community' needs to be displaced. At present it's more crowded than the M1 during rush hour. I finally get to spank the monkey...ehm, lady spank, 1, move to a lower populated system, 2, I don't like bots either this is a failure on CCP to remove them, NULL is DULL been there done that, but since hoards of marauding gangs will blow up anything instead of NRDS getting anything done is more hassle then its worth, they did EARN their ships, they bought with plex or isk, why don't you mine in missions, scan down grav spawns I do it and have plenty of ore so I spend as little time in belt because I don't need to. just saying. |
Hypercake Mix
Magical Rainbow Bakery
25
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Posted - 2012.09.05 16:02:00 -
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Valari Nala Zena wrote:Rorquals in high sec is what i'm thinking. No. No. No~. No... no. No. NO. no. No. ... ... No.
It's not because people will use them. It's because people will ABUSE them. |
Infinite Force
Hammer Of Light Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
132
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Posted - 2012.09.05 16:40:00 -
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Hypercake Mix wrote:Valari Nala Zena wrote:Rorquals in high sec is what i'm thinking. No. No. No~. No... no. No. NO. no. No. ... ... No. It's not because people will use them. It's because people will ABUSE them. Yes, yes yes!!!
I'm sure people will love to be in on a HS Rorqual killmail. And think of the mineral prices - they'll go back up as people replace those cargo fitted Rorquals :) HROLT CEO Live Free; Die Proud
Hammer Mineral Compression - The only way to go! |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
2747
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Posted - 2012.09.05 16:42:00 -
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This is still the best Rorqual kill ever...
http://chon.biz/kbn/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=5685 (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
617
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Posted - 2012.09.05 16:57:00 -
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BATTLE RORQUAL http://themittani.com/features/local-problem A simple fix to the local intel problem |
Mechael
Ouroboros Executor Collective
233
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Posted - 2012.09.05 17:06:00 -
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Eh, I think that the problem is the relative lack of gradual progression from "safe" to "unsafe." Sure, CONCORD takes a couple seconds longer to respond, but compared to the cliff that 0.4 represents, and the second cliff that 0.0 represents those few seconds mean fuckall.
The solution here is to make that progression from 1.0 to -1.0 actually mean something. Going to a low (but still positive) security status system should be a lot like going to that one neighborhood where the cops don't like to go because people shoot at them. Basically, CONCORD should behave more like police.
The fact that evading CONCORD is a violation of the EULA is bad game design. Shooting at someone in a 1.0 system should essentially be the equivalent of shooting someone outside of a police station window. You can do it, but it's not smart. The lower the security status goes (until it hits 0.0 where there are no police) the higher your chances should be of getting away with it because, just like real police, CONCORD should not be able to be everywhere at once, nor should they be all powerful. Very, very powerful? Yes. However, there is such a thing as "so powerful it's stupid," and that's where we are now. That's why there's that cliff on entering "lowsec" and that second cliff on entering 0.0.
Death to the cliffs!
EDIT: Imagine your corp is trying to gank someone in a 0.4 security system. The coast looks clear, so you engage. The fight rages on for a good 5 minutes when all of a sudden CONCORD warps on grid. OH ****, IT'S THE FUZZ! All of a sudden the fight is altered by the presence of very powerful (but not invincible) NPCs whose goal is to take down the aggressing "criminals." You can exchange shots with CONCORD, and maybe even take a few of them down (or possibly even wipe out the patrol,) but ultimately more and more CONCORD vessels will show up as the first to arrive radio in for backup. It's only a matter of time before you have to retreat, but maybe you got your kills first. Hell, "cop hunting" could become something legitimate. We already shoot at "concord" in pirate faction missions.
I'm thinking that something similar to the incursion mechanics could even be used to simulate concord patrols. Whether or not you win the game matters not. -áIt's if you bought it. |
Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
210
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Posted - 2012.09.05 18:52:00 -
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Andski wrote:nat longshot wrote:yet more morons thinking they are right. Damn you people are way off.
Lady Spark please tell me what will happen if you idea comes around? what will happen to the market and ship building.
Well ill tell you this only poeople playing will be those in 0.0 they get the tect moons and all the ore's so low still will be the sh*t whole its allways been.
players will leave high and head stright for 0.0 and given goons have they highest count for players right now they will just grown and not one soul will beable to do anything or buy anything without handing more isk to the larger allinaces.
Just used goons becase they have the highest body count btw.
now lets here another failed idea from Lady. you're right everyone in 0.0 has tech moons lol
I love how every goon member regards themself as a tech moon owner when infact you are merely a pawn.
Everytime you dont like my comments/posts the terrorists win and your a disgrace to your country. |
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
618
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Posted - 2012.09.05 18:55:00 -
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Gibbo3771 wrote:Andski wrote:nat longshot wrote:yet more morons thinking they are right. Damn you people are way off.
Lady Spark please tell me what will happen if you idea comes around? what will happen to the market and ship building.
Well ill tell you this only poeople playing will be those in 0.0 they get the tect moons and all the ore's so low still will be the sh*t whole its allways been.
players will leave high and head stright for 0.0 and given goons have they highest count for players right now they will just grown and not one soul will beable to do anything or buy anything without handing more isk to the larger allinaces.
Just used goons becase they have the highest body count btw.
now lets here another failed idea from Lady. you're right everyone in 0.0 has tech moons lol I love how every goon member regards themself as a tech moon owner when infact you are merely a pawn. Your version of Goon is similar to the Barack Obama that Clint Eastwood was arguing with at the DNC - i.e. completely unrepresentative of the actual thing in question. I'm sure you know what this is called. http://themittani.com/features/local-problem A simple fix to the local intel problem |
Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum Still Censored
713
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Posted - 2012.09.05 18:58:00 -
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About the Goons and tech thing. From last I've seen of their spreadsheets(might be TEST I'am thinking of), most of the profit from the tech actually does go back to the individual members. So in a sense they do. It is a great difference between how Goons handle moon income and say the old NC use to. |
M1k3y Koontz
Blackened Skies The Unthinkables
47
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Posted - 2012.09.05 20:44:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Gibbo3771 wrote:Andski wrote:nat longshot wrote:yet more morons thinking they are right. Damn you people are way off.
Lady Spark please tell me what will happen if you idea comes around? what will happen to the market and ship building.
Well ill tell you this only poeople playing will be those in 0.0 they get the tect moons and all the ore's so low still will be the sh*t whole its allways been.
players will leave high and head stright for 0.0 and given goons have they highest count for players right now they will just grown and not one soul will beable to do anything or buy anything without handing more isk to the larger allinaces.
Just used goons becase they have the highest body count btw.
now lets here another failed idea from Lady. you're right everyone in 0.0 has tech moons lol I love how every goon member regards themself as a tech moon owner when infact you are merely a pawn. Your version of Goon is similar to the Barack Obama that Clint Eastwood was arguing with at the RNC - i.e. completely unrepresentative of the actual thing in question. I'm sure you know what this is called.
Should probably leave the politics out... since people in other countries probably won't understand the reference. That and RL POLITICS HAS NO BUSINESS IN MY INTERNET SPACESHIPS!!!
And CFC pets are definitely pawns, once Goons run out of targets they'll be picked off one by one for mitten's entertainment.
Goonswarm members... debatable.
How much herp could a herp derp derp if a herp derp could herp derp. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
621
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Posted - 2012.09.05 20:47:00 -
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M1k3y Koontz wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Gibbo3771 wrote:Andski wrote:nat longshot wrote:yet more morons thinking they are right. Damn you people are way off.
Lady Spark please tell me what will happen if you idea comes around? what will happen to the market and ship building.
Well ill tell you this only poeople playing will be those in 0.0 they get the tect moons and all the ore's so low still will be the sh*t whole its allways been.
players will leave high and head stright for 0.0 and given goons have they highest count for players right now they will just grown and not one soul will beable to do anything or buy anything without handing more isk to the larger allinaces.
Just used goons becase they have the highest body count btw.
now lets here another failed idea from Lady. you're right everyone in 0.0 has tech moons lol I love how every goon member regards themself as a tech moon owner when infact you are merely a pawn. Your version of Goon is similar to the Barack Obama that Clint Eastwood was arguing with at the RNC - i.e. completely unrepresentative of the actual thing in question. I'm sure you know what this is called. Should probably leave the politics out... since people in other countries probably won't understand the reference. Translation: There's evidently a version of Goons as they actually are, and then there's apparently a version that only you can see!
Also, what's a CFC pet? CFC doesn't have pets, and CFC members aren't pets. http://themittani.com/features/local-problem A simple fix to the local intel problem |
M1k3y Koontz
Blackened Skies The Unthinkables
47
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Posted - 2012.09.05 20:53:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote: Translation: There's evidently a version of Goons as they actually are, and then there's apparently a version that only you can see!
Also, what's a CFC pet? CFC doesn't have pets, and CFC members aren't pets.
Yes Goons have pets: TNT RAZOR SMA FCON Gents LAWN Etc.
Part of the CFC, Goonswarm pets, they only have space because Goons, like most people, like having meat shields and need more numbers for their drake blobs.
How much herp could a herp derp derp if a herp derp could herp derp. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
621
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Posted - 2012.09.05 20:55:00 -
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M1k3y Koontz wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote: Translation: There's evidently a version of Goons as they actually are, and then there's apparently a version that only you can see!
Also, what's a CFC pet? CFC doesn't have pets, and CFC members aren't pets.
Yes Goons have pets: TNT RAZOR SMA FCON Gents LAWN Etc. Part of the CFC, Goonswarm pets, they only have space because Goons, like most people, like having meat shields and need more numbers for their drake blobs. Mutually beneficial arrangements do not pets make. A pet is when you pay an alliance for space, which is exactly what alliances like Red Citizens, AAA Citizens, etc. do. http://themittani.com/features/local-problem A simple fix to the local intel problem |
M1k3y Koontz
Blackened Skies The Unthinkables
47
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Posted - 2012.09.05 21:00:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:M1k3y Koontz wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote: Translation: There's evidently a version of Goons as they actually are, and then there's apparently a version that only you can see!
Also, what's a CFC pet? CFC doesn't have pets, and CFC members aren't pets.
Yes Goons have pets: TNT RAZOR SMA FCON Gents LAWN Etc. Part of the CFC, Goonswarm pets, they only have space because Goons, like most people, like having meat shields and need more numbers for their drake blobs. Mutually beneficial arrangements do not pets make. A pet is when you pay an alliance for space, which is exactly what alliances like Red Citizens, AAA Citizens, etc. do.
That what they told you? Paying for space makes you a renter, not a pet.
Pets = IMP-L, Cascade, PNG, those small meatshield alliances around alliance like -A- Solar, Goons, and fight for that alliance.
How much herp could a herp derp derp if a herp derp could herp derp. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
621
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Posted - 2012.09.05 21:03:00 -
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Renters are pets, because the alliance that rents out to you really doesn't give a **** about you. They only care about their profit. http://themittani.com/features/local-problem A simple fix to the local intel problem |
Denidil
Evocations of Shadow Eternal Evocations
496
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Posted - 2012.09.05 21:22:00 -
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Lady Spank. Contract me all your items and isk. then biomass. thank you. If you don't see a problem in 0.0 eroding into two big super-coalitions and a few hangers on in areas nobody cares about.. then you don't have brains. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
623
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Posted - 2012.09.05 21:32:00 -
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Am I the only one that didn't see Lady Spank's post for the satire it was? http://themittani.com/features/local-problem A simple fix to the local intel problem |
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