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Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
2709
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Posted - 2012.09.03 10:07:00 -
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These ships are designed for deep space operation and using them in high sec is overkill.
Either allow use of bombs, warp bubbles and capitals in high sec or also remove these specialised ships from use in high.
What is the point of low and null sec industrial 'content' if you are going to give no incentive for being out there. People play Eve for the spaceships, give them a reason to earn their shiny toys.
At present I am pushed to find a belt that hasn't been mined out by greedy bots and the mining 'community' needs to be displaced. At present it's more crowded than the M1 during rush hour. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |

Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
715
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Posted - 2012.09.03 10:09:00 -
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Maybe you should have gone the other road and suggested a dedicated Capital mining ship (I thought I better add Mining ship not Mining support ship) or maybe a corvert ops barge.
Other than that it sound like the other big thread whining about the barges. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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pussnheels
The Fiction Factory
563
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Posted - 2012.09.03 10:12:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:These ships are designed for deep space operation and using them in high sec is overkill.
Either allow use of bombs, warp bubbles and capitals in high sec or also remove these specialised ships from use in high.
What is the point of low and null sec industrial 'content' if you are going to give no incentive for being out there. People play Eve for the spaceships, give them a reason to earn their shiny toys.
At present I am pushed to find a belt that hasn't been mined out by greedy bots and the mining 'community' needs to be displaced. At present it's more crowded than the M1 during rush hour.
i had expected better from you , now you just trolling with a ' they not playing how i want this game to be played so i demand that CCP nerf them I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire |

Mukuro Gravedigger
Republic University Minmatar Republic
19
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Posted - 2012.09.03 10:15:00 -
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You mean bots are mining everything out of null sec? Yes, I agree that would suck for the null sec industrialist.
So what ship were you planning on using in high sec if you planned to mine there since mining barges "are designed for deep space operation and using them in high sec is overkill"?
Of course, the forum howling if CCP did allow players to use a titan in high sec and following the safety rules, got it Concorded by accidentally blasting a day old newbie following the tutorial.  |

nat longshot
solo and loveing it
68
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Posted - 2012.09.03 10:17:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:These ships are designed for deep space operation and using them in high sec is overkill.
Either allow use of bombs, warp bubbles and capitals in high sec or also remove these specialised ships from use in high.
What is the point of low and null sec industrial 'content' if you are going to give no incentive for being out there. People play Eve for the spaceships, give them a reason to earn their shiny toys.
At present I am pushed to find a belt that hasn't been mined out by greedy bots and the mining 'community' needs to be displaced. At present it's more crowded than the M1 during rush hour.
Ah you need to learn what the term "deep space means" look it up and its1 Au from a planet is what is called deep space.
If your going to remove specialised mining ships then you might as well remove all t2 ships from high sec as well has all faction ships. Give all t2 ships are specialised.
If you read what hulk are there specialised mining ships not deep space like the old info used to say. They got buffed deal with it.
Now grab yourself by your boot straps stand up and move on. |

Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
2709
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Posted - 2012.09.03 10:19:00 -
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Removing all tech II from high sec is a good idea, but doesn't follow logical progression of specialisation and growth from the training area of high sec into low sec and beyond. At present CCP are giving no incentive for people to leave the starting areas. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |

Pak Narhoo
Knights of Kador
674
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Posted - 2012.09.03 10:19:00 -
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He kid, stop using your mom's account!
Hm, reminds of that kid who did and lost his dad's super carrier. Now that was fun to read.  Hi, I'm CCP Arrow, I screwed up the.. ummm... |

nat longshot
solo and loveing it
68
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Posted - 2012.09.03 10:22:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:Removing all tech II from high sec is a good idea, but doesn't follow logical progression of specialisation and growth from the training area of high sec into low sec and beyond. At present CCP are giving no incentive for people to leave the starting areas.
low sec and 0.0 was your prgression. Its a open game you deside were you go. Sound like your trying to tell people you way of playing is the right way. witch is not.
That like me trying to tell you my way of life is the right way and forceing you to live that way. You play style fits you not everyone.
Now get over the "i'am right" bs and move on. |

Cede Forster
40
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Posted - 2012.09.03 10:25:00 -
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yet another "the sandbox, you are doing it wrong" thread? |

Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
2709
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Posted - 2012.09.03 10:25:00 -
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I'm going by CCP's design philosophy. If you don't understand it and want to just throw around poorly spelled insults then kindly remove yourself from this discussion. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |

Bubanni
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
426
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Posted - 2012.09.03 10:25:00 -
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hmm limiting the exhumers to low and null sec is actually a good idea, it would encourage more people to move to low sec for mining, but they could still stay in high sec with retrievers and such...
simply disallow the hulks and such to activate their strip miners in high sec.. (so they can still travel to low sec) Christmas wish list https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=134275
Module activation delay! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1180934 |

non judgement
Without Fear Flying Burning Ships Alliance
817
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Posted - 2012.09.03 10:26:00 -
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People should also stop flying jump freighters in highsec. How dare they even think of doing something so unholy?!?!
PS: I'll probably be mining in an exhumer, in highsec, tomorrow. |

Jax Bederen
Dark Horse RM
162
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Posted - 2012.09.03 10:27:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:I'm going by CCP's design philosophy. If you don't understand it and want to just throw around poorly spelled insults then kindly remove yourself from this discussion.
Nah admit it, you are just bored, threw some **** out there and watched if it sticks. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4518
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Posted - 2012.09.03 10:28:00 -
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they should be in hisec, they make good prey for the slaughter please leave |

ugh zug
40
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Posted - 2012.09.03 10:31:00 -
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Jax Bederen wrote:Lady Spank wrote:I'm going by CCP's design philosophy. If you don't understand it and want to just throw around poorly spelled insults then kindly remove yourself from this discussion. Nah admit it, you are just bored, threw some **** out there and watched if it sticks.
this. Want me to shut up?-á Send me ISK and i'll stop giving suggestions to CCP that make sense. Remove content from my post, 15 bil Remove my content from a thread I have started 30bil. |

nat longshot
solo and loveing it
68
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Posted - 2012.09.03 10:32:00 -
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yet more morons thinking they are right. Damn you people are way off.
Lady Spark please tell me what will happen if you idea comes around? what will happen to the market and ship building.
Well ill tell you this only poeople playing will be those in 0.0 they get the tect moons and all the ore's so low still will be the sh*t whole its allways been.
players will leave high and head stright for 0.0 and given goons have they highest count for players right now there will just grown and not one soul will beable to do anything or buy anything without handing more isk to the larger allinaces.
Just used goons becase they have the highest body count btw.
now lets here a nother failed idea from Lady.
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Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
691
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Posted - 2012.09.03 10:32:00 -
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Ho, look it's another Spank thread.
 brb |

Hypercake Mix
Magical Rainbow Bakery
21
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Posted - 2012.09.03 10:38:00 -
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Want Tech 2 out of High-sec? Go cut off the supply. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4518
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Posted - 2012.09.03 10:39:00 -
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nat longshot wrote:yet more morons thinking they are right. Damn you people are way off.
Lady Spark please tell me what will happen if you idea comes around? what will happen to the market and ship building.
Well ill tell you this only poeople playing will be those in 0.0 they get the tect moons and all the ore's so low still will be the sh*t whole its allways been.
players will leave high and head stright for 0.0 and given goons have they highest count for players right now they will just grown and not one soul will beable to do anything or buy anything without handing more isk to the larger allinaces.
Just used goons becase they have the highest body count btw.
now lets here another failed idea from Lady.
you're right everyone in 0.0 has tech moons
lol please leave |

nat longshot
solo and loveing it
68
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Posted - 2012.09.03 10:40:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:I'm going by CCP's design philosophy. If you don't understand it and want to just throw around poorly spelled insults then kindly remove yourself from this discussion.
ccp's design philosohy. lol you kidding right?? ccp's design philosophy come on really you going to go there do i have to remind of nex store and the CQ. lol please there design is f'd up.
there philosophy changes more offen then a street walkers underware.
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nat longshot
solo and loveing it
68
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Posted - 2012.09.03 10:41:00 -
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Andski wrote:nat longshot wrote:yet more morons thinking they are right. Damn you people are way off.
Lady Spark please tell me what will happen if you idea comes around? what will happen to the market and ship building.
Well ill tell you this only poeople playing will be those in 0.0 they get the tect moons and all the ore's so low still will be the sh*t whole its allways been.
players will leave high and head stright for 0.0 and given goons have they highest count for players right now they will just grown and not one soul will beable to do anything or buy anything without handing more isk to the larger allinaces.
Just used goons becase they have the highest body count btw.
now lets here another failed idea from Lady. you're right everyone in 0.0 has tech moons lol
no not everyone many goon have the highest % of them that well know and well posted. but thanks for adding your 2 cents. |

Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
2710
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Posted - 2012.09.03 10:42:00 -
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Rather than showing your complete lack of understanding, it would be better if you posted something constructive. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |

nat longshot
solo and loveing it
68
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Posted - 2012.09.03 10:48:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:Rather than showing your complete lack of understanding, it would be better if you posted something constructive.
Lady Spank you idea's are in my view way off and from the looks of it other feel the same.
just let me reset what ccp has said then you might learn something.
There are 3 high sec rookie system's per race thats 12 total out of 5000 system's.
So how can you say all high sec is rookie training? Given what the intro to the game state's its your path to deside were you go do you stay in high sec doing pvp/pve/mining.building or do you risk it all and go to low sec or 0.0 and try to build a large allinace to rule 0.0
So given that and what you have posted you way off and dont understand what ccp's design. |

Shalua Rui
FEROX AQUILA
3886
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Posted - 2012.09.03 10:50:00 -
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...ok, ban all T2 ships from HS then... why? Cause their T1 equivalents are sufficient for missioning, explorering and hauling...
You arguments are very well thought through.  Ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire! |

nat longshot
solo and loveing it
68
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Posted - 2012.09.03 10:54:00 -
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Shalua Rui wrote:...ok, ban all T2 ships from HS then... why? Cause their T1 equivalents are sufficient for missioning, explorering and hauling... You arguments are very well thought through. 
lol i like this lady.
jus a side point Marauders were made with mission running in mind not pvp so ah please tell me why is there a ship just buildtfor mission running then and its a pvp ship though yes and can be use as one as long as no one uses a kind of ecm.
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Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
2711
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Posted - 2012.09.03 10:55:00 -
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Mission running is not confined to high sec. Again your lack of understanding is quite shocking. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |

Shalua Rui
FEROX AQUILA
3888
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Posted - 2012.09.03 10:56:00 -
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...and mining is... you even read what you write? Ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire! |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
600
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Posted - 2012.09.03 11:04:00 -
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nat longshot wrote:Andski wrote:nat longshot wrote:yet more morons thinking they are right. Damn you people are way off.
Lady Spark please tell me what will happen if you idea comes around? what will happen to the market and ship building.
Well ill tell you this only poeople playing will be those in 0.0 they get the tect moons and all the ore's so low still will be the sh*t whole its allways been.
players will leave high and head stright for 0.0 and given goons have they highest count for players right now they will just grown and not one soul will beable to do anything or buy anything without handing more isk to the larger allinaces.
Just used goons becase they have the highest body count btw.
now lets here another failed idea from Lady. you're right everyone in 0.0 has tech moons lol no not everyone many goon have the highest % of them that well know and well posted. but thanks for adding your 2 cents. And who gets the income from the moons? The alliance. Not the individual alliance members, but the alliance as a whole. http://themittani.com/features/local-problem
A simple fix to the local intel problem |

nat longshot
solo and loveing it
75
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Posted - 2012.09.03 11:05:00 -
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Lady wrote: Spank]Mission running is not confined to high sec. Again your lack of understanding is quite shocking.
your right Mission running is not confined to high sec so why should minning not be open to all high sec not just low or 0.0 given your post. so that should mean t2 ships sould be open to all sec. Btw they remove combat cap ship's from high sec for a good reason. just like they dont let a Rorgaul in high sec for the same reason it would really mess up high sec mining. Do you have a clue what miining corp would give for a high sec rorgual?
Lack of understanding?
i point stuff out and you cant rebuff a damn point lady you not holding up your view of the mining ships or t2 ships beening removed.
the only thing your doing is take little cheap shots witch i must add are very weak.
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nat longshot
solo and loveing it
80
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Posted - 2012.09.03 11:07:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:nat longshot wrote:Andski wrote:nat longshot wrote:yet more morons thinking they are right. Damn you people are way off.
Lady Spark please tell me what will happen if you idea comes around? what will happen to the market and ship building.
Well ill tell you this only poeople playing will be those in 0.0 they get the tect moons and all the ore's so low still will be the sh*t whole its allways been.
players will leave high and head stright for 0.0 and given goons have they highest count for players right now they will just grown and not one soul will beable to do anything or buy anything without handing more isk to the larger allinaces.
Just used goons becase they have the highest body count btw.
now lets here another failed idea from Lady. you're right everyone in 0.0 has tech moons lol no not everyone many goon have the highest % of them that well know and well posted. but thanks for adding your 2 cents. And who gets the income from the moons? The alliance. Not the individual alliance members, but the alliance as a whole.
this is known james that how goons could aford hulkaggend and the whole burn jita bit.
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pussnheels
The Fiction Factory
565
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Posted - 2012.09.03 11:09:00 -
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Bubanni wrote:hmm limiting the exhumers to low and null sec is actually a good idea, it would encourage more people to move to low sec for mining, but they could still stay in high sec with retrievers and such...
simply disallow the hulks and such to activate their strip miners in high sec.. (so they can still travel to low sec) no people will just switch to covetors their yield i pretty good if you fit them for yield and when they do get ganked owell only lost 30 mil or so, the only people who will really whine are the gankers , when suddenly there are no more 200mil + untanked ships anymore that they can gank I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire |

Riot Girl
Riot Club
54
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Posted - 2012.09.03 11:09:00 -
[32] - Quote
So who exactly will ban all these T2 ships? The factions who originally designed them for use by pilots, or Concord? What would be the explanation for why they're not allowed in high-sec? If you're going to ban all T2 ships in high-sec because they are too powerful, why not ban all weapons because they are dangerous? |

Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
830
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Posted - 2012.09.03 11:10:00 -
[33] - Quote
I came hoping to read an intelligent thread by Lady Spank. I leave dissapointed.
Just remove local, that will make everyone happier. People will then have to use ship scanners to determine who is in the system and probes to find them. Yes, I know this proposal has been beaten to death, but it's still valid.
I'm not a miner, but really, remove a mining ship from High-sec because it does not comply with your style of gameplay ? Tch.
The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |

Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
2713
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Posted - 2012.09.03 11:11:00 -
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Most Americans have no business with a gun but you don't see them getting banned there even though it is the most logical thing to do. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |

Riot Girl
Riot Club
54
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Posted - 2012.09.03 11:15:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:Most Americans have no business with a gun but you don't see them getting banned there even though it is the most logical thing to do.
Yeah, Americans aren't allowed to carry guns around with them. They have to leave them at home.
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nat longshot
solo and loveing it
82
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Posted - 2012.09.03 11:19:00 -
[36] - Quote
Lady Spank wrote:Most Americans have no business with a gun but you don't see them getting banned there even though it is the most logical thing to do.
well given iam a Amercan are you? dont sound like it from that post.
Yes we have our reasons for keeping them open to buy it's in our law's for one reason and one reason only. WE the people have the right to keep and bear arms so the Governmet know damn well if it's step out of line we the people are armed and will take the steps needed to take whats ares back.
Well that and any other nation try's to take our land they will have deal with the most heavyly arm people in the world to take it.
Your logic is short and way off.
Logical would mean england would have had more gun's for its people and then maybe wwII might have been diffent. |

nat longshot
solo and loveing it
82
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Posted - 2012.09.03 11:22:00 -
[37] - Quote
Riot Girl wrote:Lady Spank wrote:Most Americans have no business with a gun but you don't see them getting banned there even though it is the most logical thing to do. Yeah, Americans aren't allowed to carry guns around with them. They have to leave them at home.
lol leave them at home lol i walk around with a 9mm in my car and jacket daily. Witch i have a perment to carry btw. |

Shalua Rui
FEROX AQUILA
3891
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Posted - 2012.09.03 11:26:00 -
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Thorn Galen wrote:Just remove local, that will make everyone happier. People will then have to use ship scanners to determine who is in the system and probes to find them. Yes, I know this proposal has been beaten to death, but it's still valid.
Actually... I start to find that a good idea.^^
If not remove, then alteast make it a broadcasting channel only... if you send a signal (ie. write something) you become visible for a short amount of time. Ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire! |

Aine Ni
Some Really Meaningless Name
39
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Posted - 2012.09.03 11:28:00 -
[39] - Quote
Lady Spank wrote:These ships are designed for deep space operation and using them in high sec is overkill.
Either allow use of bombs, warp bubbles and capitals in high sec or also remove these specialised ships from use in high.
What is the point of low and null sec industrial 'content' if you are going to give no incentive for being out there. People play Eve for the spaceships, give them a reason to earn their shiny toys.
At present I am pushed to find a belt that hasn't been mined out by greedy bots and the mining 'community' needs to be displaced. At present it's more crowded than the M1 during rush hour.
Lady Spank wrote:Rather than showing your complete lack of understanding, it would be better if you posted something constructive.
Funny - you answeared your own thread :D |

Benny Ohu
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
288
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Posted - 2012.09.03 11:28:00 -
[40] - Quote
nat longshot wrote:Ah you need to learn what the term "deep space means" look it up and its1 Au from a planet is what is called deep space. as the game specifies ships that are built for deep space we can safely assume that other ships are not built for deep space
as such I demand you cease using any ships other than transports and exhumers outside 1au of a planet |

Din Chao
Seraphim Initiative
80
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Posted - 2012.09.03 11:37:00 -
[41] - Quote
Lady Spank wrote:Most Americans have no business with a gun but you don't see them getting banned there even though it is the most logical thing to do. Actually, for many people they are "banned." A convicted felon cannot legally purchase a firearm, for example. |

Riot Girl
Riot Club
55
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Posted - 2012.09.03 11:39:00 -
[42] - Quote
So there you go. America caters for carebears, all industrial vehicles should be pushed out into the desert with no fuel or water. |

Din Chao
Seraphim Initiative
80
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Posted - 2012.09.03 11:39:00 -
[43] - Quote
Din Chao wrote:Lady Spank wrote:Most Americans have no business with a gun but you don't see them getting banned there even though it is the most logical thing to do. Actually, for many people they are "banned." A convicted felon cannot legally purchase a firearm, for example.
BTW, if you can't find full belts in high sec, you're not looking very hard.
EDIT: Oops, meant to edit, not quote. Sorry |

Shalua Rui
FEROX AQUILA
3893
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Posted - 2012.09.03 11:43:00 -
[44] - Quote
Din Chao wrote:BTW, if you can't find full belts in high sec, you're not looking very hard.
This also... you just gotta leave Jita and the surrounding systems once in a while! 
I can mine a whole day without even seeing another barge... in highsec... on Singularity.  Ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire! |

Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
2714
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Posted - 2012.09.03 11:58:00 -
[45] - Quote
Confirming I spend all my time in Jita. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |

Kheeria
Sigillum Militum Xpisti Fatal Ascension
16
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Posted - 2012.09.03 12:15:00 -
[46] - Quote
nat longshot wrote:Andski wrote:nat longshot wrote:yet more morons thinking they are right. Damn you people are way off.
Lady Spark please tell me what will happen if you idea comes around? what will happen to the market and ship building.
Well ill tell you this only poeople playing will be those in 0.0 they get the tect moons and all the ore's so low still will be the sh*t whole its allways been.
players will leave high and head stright for 0.0 and given goons have they highest count for players right now they will just grown and not one soul will beable to do anything or buy anything without handing more isk to the larger allinaces.
Just used goons becase they have the highest body count btw.
now lets here another failed idea from Lady. you're right everyone in 0.0 has tech moons lol no not everyone many goon have the highest % of them that well know and well posted. but thanks for adding your 2 cents. Sarcasm, you should learn it. |

Kheeria
Sigillum Militum Xpisti Fatal Ascension
16
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Posted - 2012.09.03 12:20:00 -
[47] - Quote
nat longshot wrote:Riot Girl wrote:Lady Spank wrote:Most Americans have no business with a gun but you don't see them getting banned there even though it is the most logical thing to do. Yeah, Americans aren't allowed to carry guns around with them. They have to leave them at home. lol leave them at home lol i walk around with a 9mm in my car and jacket daily. Witch i have a perment to carry btw. Maybe you should have commited more to your English class than the guns eh? |

Cede Forster
43
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Posted - 2012.09.03 12:33:00 -
[48] - Quote
i have to admit, GD felt a little boring lately and i appreciate people who put effort into making "highly inflammatory threads" but then again, this stuff is just not cutting it
thank you for trying though, maybe next time  |

Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum Still Censored
702
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Posted - 2012.09.03 12:34:00 -
[49] - Quote
Give them a bonus when used in Low-Sec/Null, or a penalty when used in Highsec. No need to completely remove them from high-sec.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
4510
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Posted - 2012.09.03 12:35:00 -
[50] - Quote
Lady Spank wrote:These ships are designed for deep space operation and using them in high sec is overkill.
Either allow use of bombs, warp bubbles and capitals in high sec or also remove these specialised ships from use in high.
What is the point of low and null sec industrial 'content' if you are going to give no incentive for being out there. People play Eve for the spaceships, give them a reason to earn their shiny toys.
At present I am pushed to find a belt that hasn't been mined out by greedy bots and the mining 'community' needs to be displaced. At present it's more crowded than the M1 during rush hour.
I thought everyone was using disposable retrievers in hi-sec now? Those are pretty easy to gank aren't they? Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |

Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
158
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Posted - 2012.09.03 12:37:00 -
[51] - Quote
Or maybe:
- Allow only noobships and shuttles in hisec. - You aren't allowed to fly noobship after 7 days.
 |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
4510
|
Posted - 2012.09.03 12:37:00 -
[52] - Quote
Brooks Puuntai wrote:Give them a bonus when used in Low-Sec/Null, or a penalty when used in Highsec. No need to completely remove them from high-sec.
More simply: introduce 2 new classes of ore quality. Add +1 to the base quality of all lo-sec ore. Add +2 to the base quality of all nullsec ore. Hey presto: +5% mining bonus from lo-sec, +10% mining bonus for nullsec.
Additional bonus: the amount of ore that players can produce is increased without reducing miner incomes. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
4510
|
Posted - 2012.09.03 12:38:00 -
[53] - Quote
Jorma Morkkis wrote:Or maybe: - Allow only noobships and shuttles in hisec. - You aren't allowed to fly noobship after 7 days. 
Well I think people should be allowed to stay in hi-sec for the whole of their free trial. But write your proposal up and we'll work on it! Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |

Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
158
|
Posted - 2012.09.03 12:41:00 -
[54] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:Well I think people should be allowed to stay in hi-sec for the whole of their free trial. But write your proposal up and we'll work on it!
Do you need 21 days to run a tutorial? Wow! |

Yolanta Geezenstack
GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated
31
|
Posted - 2012.09.03 14:06:00 -
[55] - Quote
Lady Spank wrote:At present I am pushed to find a belt that hasn't been mined out by greedy bots and the mining 'community' needs to be displaced. At present it's more crowded than the M1 during rush hour.
Gulp - that means you are actually mining in high-sec???  |

Hypercake Mix
Magical Rainbow Bakery
21
|
Posted - 2012.09.03 14:26:00 -
[56] - Quote
Pssh. You're trying to deprive me of my Skiff racing circuit. |

Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
1269
|
Posted - 2012.09.03 14:32:00 -
[57] - Quote
Lady Spank wrote:I'm going by CCP's design philosophy. If you don't understand it and want to just throw around poorly spelled insults then kindly remove yourself from this discussion. Per CCP, HS is not a starting area, just another place in the game that happens to have the starting places (rookie systems) in it.
Exhumers are meant to be there, as it is not an exploit to have them there.
Also, there are currently 50 unmined belts in the lower Domain region. Come join me. |

sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade Lost Obsession
329
|
Posted - 2012.09.03 16:29:00 -
[58] - Quote
Try mining outside of Caldari Space. Best Ore is in Amarr Highsec anyway. Also if you can't find belts probe. I find a hidden belt within two systems every day.
Last one was had Jaspet, Omber, and Kernite rampant in it. Oddly no miners. |

Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
148
|
Posted - 2012.09.03 16:42:00 -
[59] - Quote
Lady Spank wrote:These ships are designed for deep space operation and using them in high sec is overkill.
Either allow use of bombs, warp bubbles and capitals in high sec or also remove these specialised ships from use in high.
What is the point of low and null sec industrial 'content' if you are going to give no incentive for being out there. People play Eve for the spaceships, give them a reason to earn their shiny toys.
At present I am pushed to find a belt that hasn't been mined out by greedy bots and the mining 'community' needs to be displaced. At present it's more crowded than the M1 during rush hour. Another nut job... |

Alexzandvar Douglass
NUTS AND BOLTS MANUFACTURING En Garde
89
|
Posted - 2012.09.03 16:48:00 -
[60] - Quote
When will people learn that Null sec minerals are always sold in Null sec, so making the supply of high sec minerals go down will raise prices or help Null sec miners.
Almost all Null sec mining in any big Alliance goes to capital and other building. |

Xavier Holtzman
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
42
|
Posted - 2012.09.03 17:35:00 -
[61] - Quote
It is too bad that people don't play the game the way you want them to.  |

alittlebirdy
All Hail The Liopleurodon
61
|
Posted - 2012.09.03 18:03:00 -
[62] - Quote
Cede Forster wrote:yet another "the sandbox, you are doing it wrong" thread?
Not a sand box, cant use caps in high Cant cyno Cant bomb Cant bubble In low Cant bomb Cant bubble
Cant can flip in noob systems Could gank till CCP nerfed it
Sandbox? rofl.
And who the hell else knows what new rules we got rofl
If some dumbshit noob gets can flipped and killed and QUITS I got news for you... he was gona quit anyway... when he was doing his mission in some fail fit BS and a guy started stealing his loot and then blobed him... guess what baby is gona rage quit? Same one who woiuld have quit from the start. |

Ditra Vorthran
State War Academy Caldari State
98
|
Posted - 2012.09.03 18:05:00 -
[63] - Quote
Lady Spank wrote:These ships are designed for deep space operation and using them in high sec is overkill.
Either allow use of bombs, warp bubbles and capitals in high sec or also remove these specialised ships from use in high.
What is the point of low and null sec industrial 'content' if you are going to give no incentive for being out there. People play Eve for the spaceships, give them a reason to earn their shiny toys.
At present I am pushed to find a belt that hasn't been mined out by greedy bots and the mining 'community' needs to be displaced. At present it's more crowded than the M1 during rush hour.
Until CCP bans exhumers from High Sec, they belong in High Sec.
Get over it. "Miners mine so I don't have to." ~Metal Icarus |

Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
9
|
Posted - 2012.09.03 18:15:00 -
[64] - Quote
Lady Spank wrote: At present I am pushed to find a belt that hasn't been mined out by greedy bots
Lady Spank and mining? Something here does not compute. |

Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
2725
|
Posted - 2012.09.03 18:44:00 -
[65] - Quote
Caviar Liberta wrote:Lady Spank wrote: At present I am pushed to find a belt that hasn't been mined out by greedy bots
Lady Spank and mining? Something here does not compute.
Busted  (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |

Othran
Thundercats The Initiative.
229
|
Posted - 2012.09.03 18:52:00 -
[66] - Quote
Lady Spank wrote:Caviar Liberta wrote:Lady Spank wrote: At present I am pushed to find a belt that hasn't been mined out by greedy bots
Lady Spank and mining? Something here does not compute. Busted 
Mmmm bit too much enthusiasm for a new thread (not the only one), suggests a recent return to forums ;)
I hadn't noticed you in Genos, seems like a nice fit given your solo habits. Hope you're having fun. |

Ese Maldito Cabezudo
State Protectorate Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2012.09.03 19:04:00 -
[67] - Quote
nat longshot wrote:a street walkers underware.
/thread Guy gets banned from swimming pool. He goes:Why am i banned?[For pissing in a pool]But a lot of people doing that. Maybe most.Why not ban them all?[That may be so, but you were the only one pissing from a diving board.]-á---Hungry Ghost |

Medarr
ZeroSec Dragon Swarm Dynasty
34
|
Posted - 2012.09.03 19:12:00 -
[68] - Quote
Well played Spank...  |

Ila Dace
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
92
|
Posted - 2012.09.03 19:24:00 -
[69] - Quote
OP, here's your thread. If House played Eve: http://i.imgur.com/y7ShT.jpg |

Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
27
|
Posted - 2012.09.03 19:32:00 -
[70] - Quote
Lady Spank wrote:I'm going by CCP's design philosophy. If you don't understand it and want to just throw around poorly spelled insults then kindly remove yourself from this discussion.
The designers implemented
- Mission Agents in Highsec
- Highsec Ore Belts
- Highsec Ice Belts
- Highsec Factory Slots
It's quite clear therefore that the design philosophy of Eve included highsec activities. Various groups of players apply themselves to and participate in 1 or more of these game elements.
But we'll return to your main post. So were restricting T2 Ships from Highsec .... why? What is the basis in Eve-Lore for this ? What is there in the game mechanics that makes this feasable, logical or workable ?
T2 ships are now banned from highsec, so lets consider next steps .. Obviously the next logical step in the process is ALL T2 modules should be banned from highsec. Finally after those 2 changes it's time for the characters themselves ..... Should it be time based, or Skill Point based ? 3 months, 6 months, 2.5m, 5m at what point should your character be excluded from highsec. |

Call Rollard
Helghan Armada Apocalypse Now.
3
|
Posted - 2012.09.03 19:36:00 -
[71] - Quote
Alexzandvar Douglass wrote:When will people learn that Null sec minerals are always sold in Null sec, so making the supply of high sec minerals go down will raise prices or help Null sec miners.
Almost all Null sec mining in any big Alliance goes to capital and other building.
Freighters send stuff to high sec. Often you can get null sec pilots mine there, then sell in high but obviously almost all of null sec mining goes towards building a starship or something 
And for the person who said ban T2s in high. What are you thinking because t2's are fine in high sec and Combat caps banned in high makes ultra sense. Cap ships are over powered and even in low sec. Got few pirates camping a station with battlecruisers, undock with a cap ship and they will fly away. i seen it happen before. |

Lugia3
Shydow Imperium
26
|
Posted - 2012.09.03 19:36:00 -
[72] - Quote
Posting in a stupid thread. Will sell wallet space for ISK. |

Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
523
|
Posted - 2012.09.03 21:20:00 -
[73] - Quote
Lady Spank wrote:These ships are designed for deep space operation and using them in high sec is overkill.
Either allow use of bombs, warp bubbles and capitals in high sec or also remove these specialised ships from use in high.
What is the point of low and null sec industrial 'content' if you are going to give no incentive for being out there. People play Eve for the spaceships, give them a reason to earn their shiny toys.
At present I am pushed to find a belt that hasn't been mined out by greedy bots and the mining 'community' needs to be displaced. At present it's more crowded than the M1 during rush hour.
Posting in a james 315 alt mining whinge thread. You want fries with that? |

Selinate
982
|
Posted - 2012.09.03 21:39:00 -
[74] - Quote
ALLOW RORQUALS INTO HIGHSEC!!! |

Methesda
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
15
|
Posted - 2012.09.03 21:40:00 -
[75] - Quote
Mind boggled at sheer number of people that do not understand satire.
Also boggled at the number of people that read exhumers, and immediately start talking about barges. |

Selinate
982
|
Posted - 2012.09.03 21:40:00 -
[76] - Quote
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Lady Spank wrote:These ships are designed for deep space operation and using them in high sec is overkill.
Either allow use of bombs, warp bubbles and capitals in high sec or also remove these specialised ships from use in high.
What is the point of low and null sec industrial 'content' if you are going to give no incentive for being out there. People play Eve for the spaceships, give them a reason to earn their shiny toys.
At present I am pushed to find a belt that hasn't been mined out by greedy bots and the mining 'community' needs to be displaced. At present it's more crowded than the M1 during rush hour. Posting in a james 315 alt mining whinge thread.
...?
Two threads I've seen so far has claimed OP was this james 315. I'm not sure who that is, but I'm pretty sure Spank isn't an alt.... The Spank troll has been around much longer than most other trolls on these forums... |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
608
|
Posted - 2012.09.03 21:45:00 -
[77] - Quote
alittlebirdy wrote:Cede Forster wrote:yet another "the sandbox, you are doing it wrong" thread? Not a sand box, cant use caps in high Cant cyno Cant bomb Cant bubble In low Cant bomb Cant bubble Cant can flip in noob systems Could gank till CCP nerfed it Sandbox? rofl. And who the hell else knows what new rules we got rofl If some dumbshit noob gets can flipped and killed and QUITS I got news for you... he was gona quit anyway... when he was doing his mission in some fail fit BS and a guy started stealing his loot and then blobed him... guess what baby is gona rage quit? Same one who woiuld have quit from the start. NOT A SANDBOX until I can hate-**** Riot Girl's toon in my CQ with full BDSM torture options. http://themittani.com/features/local-problem
A simple fix to the local intel problem |

Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
235
|
Posted - 2012.09.03 22:45:00 -
[78] - Quote
Lady Spank wrote:These ships are designed for deep space operation and using them in high sec is overkill.
Either allow use of bombs, warp bubbles and capitals in high sec or also remove these specialised ships from use in high.
What is the point of low and null sec industrial 'content' if you are going to give no incentive for being out there. People play Eve for the spaceships, give them a reason to earn their shiny toys.
At present I am pushed to find a belt that hasn't been mined out by greedy bots and the mining 'community' needs to be displaced. At present it's more crowded than the M1 during rush hour.
Troll on so many levels.....Highsec supplies cheap mins that everyone in 0.0 ignores...... When did lowsec / 0.0 become a progression? The sand all flows downhill into the cesspool? 
"CCP, is a cutting edge developer, they have found a way to sell lag to their customers, and make them believe it's a feature." |

Gorinia Sanford
Sons of Russ
52
|
Posted - 2012.09.04 21:30:00 -
[79] - Quote
Lady Spank wrote:These ships are designed for deep space operation and using them in high sec is overkill.
Either allow use of bombs, warp bubbles and capitals in high sec or also remove these specialised ships from use in high.
What is the point of low and null sec industrial 'content' if you are going to give no incentive for being out there. People play Eve for the spaceships, give them a reason to earn their shiny toys.
At present I am pushed to find a belt that hasn't been mined out by greedy bots and the mining 'community' needs to be displaced. At present it's more crowded than the M1 during rush hour.
Nag, nag, nag. Jesus, you sound worse than my ex-wife. |

Ginger Barbarella
State War Academy Caldari State
96
|
Posted - 2012.09.04 23:41:00 -
[80] - Quote
Lady Spank wrote:These ships are designed for deep space operation and using them in high sec is overkill.
1. You know what CCP designed them for, specifically??? You rock. 2. Why are they in high sec if they were designed by CCP for null sec?!?!?!
Wait a second....
Ooooh, it's Spank posting. Nevermind my rhetorical questions above. |

James 315
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
2619
|
Posted - 2012.09.04 23:44:00 -
[81] - Quote
Selinate wrote:Two threads I've seen so far has claimed OP was this james 315. I'm not sure who that is, but I'm pretty sure Spank isn't an alt.... The Spank troll has been around much longer than most other trolls on these forums... I don't know what the deal is either. I'm apparently some kind of boogeyman and everyone's alt. I get blamed for a lot of stuff, but I don't actually post on any alts! 
By the way, since you don't know who I am though, I am pleased to make your acquaintance. 
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ MinerBumping.com -½-½-½-½-½-½-½-½-½-½Now one of the most popular blogs in EVE. Find out why! |

Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
551
|
Posted - 2012.09.05 00:01:00 -
[82] - Quote
James 315 wrote:By the way, since you don't know who I am though, I am pleased to make your acquaintance.  You get blamed for the shiptoasting threads... pretty reasonable considering your track record...
Interdict Hi-Sec - it's the only way to be sure... |

Volar Kang
Quartz Research Strategic Alliance
23
|
Posted - 2012.09.05 00:55:00 -
[83] - Quote
Lady Spank wrote:I'm going by CCP's design philosophy. If you don't understand it and want to just throw around poorly spelled insults then kindly remove yourself from this discussion.
Oh thats just great, another person who is against poor spelling. Holy Crap! How many ways can you people find to hate me!!!
 |

Volar Kang
Quartz Research Strategic Alliance
23
|
Posted - 2012.09.05 01:00:00 -
[84] - Quote
James 315 wrote:I don't know what the deal is either. I'm apparently some kind of boogeyman and everyone's alt. I get blamed for a lot of stuff, but I don't actually post on any alts!
Well, to be honest, you sit in a newb corp so you cant be war-decced and push defenseless miners around. Its kinda like being a policeman who picks on kids at the first grade recess. You are obviously capable of anything, I would rather imagine that posting with an alt would be one of your more manly acts. |

Nexus Day
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
40
|
Posted - 2012.09.05 01:32:00 -
[85] - Quote
Given that all the hi-sec belts have been emptied by exhumers your wish has been granted. And you didn't have to lift a finger to grief them as they did it to themselves. Isn't that great!
|

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1291
|
Posted - 2012.09.05 02:10:00 -
[86] - Quote
Nexus Day wrote:Given that all the hi-sec belts have been emptied by exhumers your wish has been granted. And you didn't have to lift a finger to grief them as they did it to themselves. Isn't that great! Joy ! Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
613
|
Posted - 2012.09.05 02:13:00 -
[87] - Quote
Volar Kang wrote:Well, to be honest, you sit in a newb corp so you cant be war-decced and push defenseless miners around. Its kinda like being a policeman who picks on kids at the first grade recess. You are obviously capable of anything, I would rather imagine that posting with an alt would be one of your more manly acts. Maybe he's trying to prove a point, that sadly seems to be one that many of you are incapable of understanding. You are not defenseless and you never were. If you don't want to be pushed around, do something about it. Otherwise you deserve everything you get. http://themittani.com/features/local-problem A simple fix to the local intel problem |

Jimmy Gunsmythe
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
149
|
Posted - 2012.09.05 02:22:00 -
[88] - Quote
Lady Spank wrote:These ships are designed for deep space operation and using them in high sec is overkill. Disagree
Either allow use of bombs, warp bubbles and capitals in high sec or also remove these specialised ships from use in high. Agree on the first part
What is the point of low and null sec industrial 'content' if you are going to give no incentive for being out there. There is incentive.
People play Eve for the spaceships, give them a reason to earn their shiny toys. If they earned the isk, they earned the ship.
At present I am pushed to find a belt that hasn't been mined out by greedy bots and the mining 'community' needs to be displaced. At present it's more crowded than the M1 during rush hour. Stop killing everything that steps into lo/nulsec.
It is the greatest inequality to try to make unequal things equal. |

Gorinia Sanford
Sons of Russ
53
|
Posted - 2012.09.05 02:39:00 -
[89] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:Lady Spank wrote:These ships are designed for deep space operation and using them in high sec is overkill.
Either allow use of bombs, warp bubbles and capitals in high sec or also remove these specialised ships from use in high.
What is the point of low and null sec industrial 'content' if you are going to give no incentive for being out there. People play Eve for the spaceships, give them a reason to earn their shiny toys.
At present I am pushed to find a belt that hasn't been mined out by greedy bots and the mining 'community' needs to be displaced. At present it's more crowded than the M1 during rush hour. I thought everyone was using disposable retrievers in hi-sec now? Those are pretty easy to gank aren't they?
Nope, in a few systems I mine, I use the Mackinaw I orginally purchased prior to the changes for ice mining to do a lot of ore mining as well. Got to love that 35k ore bay.  |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1295
|
Posted - 2012.09.05 02:44:00 -
[90] - Quote
Jimmy Gunsmythe wrote:Lady Spank wrote:Either allow use of bombs, warp bubbles and capitals in high sec or also remove these specialised ships from use in high. Agree on the first part Nah, you know CCP would have to start giving negative insurance for stealth bombers. Because 7 of them killing 30 macks battlereport will show up somewhere and then remember ...
Well bombs will blow up wrecks, so if you're undertanked and die fast, it's fine to bomber-gank you because they won't make a profit. However, you'll also lose your pod, most likely. Har har ~ Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Janet Patton
Brony Express
48
|
Posted - 2012.09.05 02:59:00 -
[91] - Quote
There has obviously been plenty incentive to be in low/null sec since the value of those ores have crashed. We need more people mining high sec ore. :) Why do I have this sig? I don't smoke. |

Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
554
|
Posted - 2012.09.05 03:01:00 -
[92] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:Maybe he's trying to prove a point, that sadly seems to be one that many of you are incapable of understanding.You are not defenseless and you never were. If you don't want to be pushed around, do something about it. Otherwise you deserve everything you get. "trying to prove a point"? You mean with his Ted Kaczynski manifestos? yeah... *THAT'S* what it is...
Interdict Hi-Sec - it's the only way to be sure... |

Historical Research Advocate
State War Academy Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2012.09.05 03:02:00 -
[93] - Quote
Lady Spank wrote:At present I am pushed to find a belt that hasn't been mined out by greedy bots and the mining 'community' needs to be displaced. At present it's more crowded than the M1 during rush hour. ITT: Spank pretends to have a need for roid-filled belts |

Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
40
|
Posted - 2012.09.05 05:45:00 -
[94] - Quote
Awww did the nullbear get Concorded again?  Join Us |

Jack Miton
Bite Me inc Elysian Empire
535
|
Posted - 2012.09.05 07:10:00 -
[95] - Quote
+1 |

Aramatheia
European Nuthouse
53
|
Posted - 2012.09.05 07:43:00 -
[96] - Quote
Lady Spank wrote: People play Eve for the spaceships, give them a reason to earn their shiny toys.
so why not allow them too? theres PLENTY of low/null exclusive ships already. Alright, fine, you can take my hulk but only if you give me your rorqual. Sounds fair right? |

Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
576
|
Posted - 2012.09.05 08:39:00 -
[97] - Quote
Allow cynos in highsec and bombs in lowsec. Dominique Vasilkovsky Mashie Saldana Monica Foulkes |

Seleia O'Sinnor
Drop of Honey
255
|
Posted - 2012.09.05 09:09:00 -
[98] - Quote
Ah yes I totally forgot that CCP changed Hisec belts to spawn ABC and merx. No incentive to go out there any more... New inventory: Getting better since version 1.2, but what about back and forward buttons? |

Osabojo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
253
|
Posted - 2012.09.05 13:02:00 -
[99] - Quote
Volar Kang wrote:James 315 wrote:I don't know what the deal is either. I'm apparently some kind of boogeyman and everyone's alt. I get blamed for a lot of stuff, but I don't actually post on any alts! Well, to be honest, you sit in a newb corp so you cant be war-decced and push defenseless miners around. Its kinda like being a policeman who picks on kids at the first grade recess. You are obviously capable of anything, I would rather imagine that posting with an alt would be one of your more manly acts.
Such GÇ£wisdomGÇ¥ does not come down from heaven but is earthly, unspiritual, demonic. |

Valari Nala Zena
Perkone Caldari State
44
|
Posted - 2012.09.05 14:04:00 -
[100] - Quote
Rorquals in high sec is what i'm thinking. |

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
1123
|
Posted - 2012.09.05 15:09:00 -
[101] - Quote
nat longshot wrote:Lady Spank wrote:Most Americans have no business with a gun but you don't see them getting banned there even though it is the most logical thing to do. well given iam a Amercan are you? dont sound like it from that post.
Please don't admit that out loud again.
I was going to give you a pass on your atrocious spelling, grammar and punctuation, hoping English wasn't your primary language.
I am thoroughly ashamed to admit you live in the same country as I do. Please report to the nearest high school and return your diploma in an envelope marked, "Unearned".
(going for more popcorn and returning to page 2.)
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
617
|
Posted - 2012.09.05 15:24:00 -
[102] - Quote
Valari Nala Zena wrote:Rorquals in high sec is what i'm thinking. No. Hell no. http://themittani.com/features/local-problem A simple fix to the local intel problem |

Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
2746
|
Posted - 2012.09.05 15:27:00 -
[103] - Quote
War Kitten wrote:nat longshot wrote:Lady Spank wrote:Most Americans have no business with a gun but you don't see them getting banned there even though it is the most logical thing to do. well given iam a Amercan are you? dont sound like it from that post. Please don't admit that out loud again. I was going to give you a pass on your atrocious spelling, grammar and punctuation, hoping English wasn't your primary language. I am thoroughly ashamed to admit you live in the same country as I do. Please report to the nearest high school and return your diploma in an envelope marked, "Unearned". (going for more popcorn and returning to page 2.)
Please leave your gun at home while doing so. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |

Piugattuk
CLOROFLORFILAPLANKTONPLATES
37
|
Posted - 2012.09.05 15:34:00 -
[104] - Quote
Lady Spank wrote:These ships are designed for deep space operation and using them in high sec is overkill.
Either allow use of bombs, warp bubbles and capitals in high sec or also remove these specialised ships from use in high.
What is the point of low and null sec industrial 'content' if you are going to give no incentive for being out there. People play Eve for the spaceships, give them a reason to earn their shiny toys.
At present I am pushed to find a belt that hasn't been mined out by greedy bots and the mining 'community' needs to be displaced. At present it's more crowded than the M1 during rush hour.
I finally get to spank the monkey...ehm, lady spank, 1, move to a lower populated system, 2, I don't like bots either this is a failure on CCP to remove them, NULL is DULL been there done that, but since hoards of marauding gangs will blow up anything instead of NRDS getting anything done is more hassle then its worth, they did EARN their ships, they bought with plex or isk, why don't you mine in missions, scan down grav spawns I do it and have plenty of ore so I spend as little time in belt because I don't need to. just saying. |

Hypercake Mix
Magical Rainbow Bakery
25
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Posted - 2012.09.05 16:02:00 -
[105] - Quote
Valari Nala Zena wrote:Rorquals in high sec is what i'm thinking. No. No. No~. No... no. No. NO. no. No. ... ... No.
It's not because people will use them. It's because people will ABUSE them. |

Infinite Force
Hammer Of Light Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
132
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Posted - 2012.09.05 16:40:00 -
[106] - Quote
Hypercake Mix wrote:Valari Nala Zena wrote:Rorquals in high sec is what i'm thinking. No. No. No~. No... no. No. NO. no. No. ... ... No. It's not because people will use them. It's because people will ABUSE them. Yes, yes yes!!!
I'm sure people will love to be in on a HS Rorqual killmail. And think of the mineral prices - they'll go back up as people replace those cargo fitted Rorquals :) HROLT CEO Live Free; Die Proud
Hammer Mineral Compression - The only way to go! |

Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
2747
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Posted - 2012.09.05 16:42:00 -
[107] - Quote
This is still the best Rorqual kill ever...
http://chon.biz/kbn/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=5685 (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
617
|
Posted - 2012.09.05 16:57:00 -
[108] - Quote
BATTLE RORQUAL http://themittani.com/features/local-problem A simple fix to the local intel problem |

Mechael
Ouroboros Executor Collective
233
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Posted - 2012.09.05 17:06:00 -
[109] - Quote
Eh, I think that the problem is the relative lack of gradual progression from "safe" to "unsafe." Sure, CONCORD takes a couple seconds longer to respond, but compared to the cliff that 0.4 represents, and the second cliff that 0.0 represents those few seconds mean fuckall.
The solution here is to make that progression from 1.0 to -1.0 actually mean something. Going to a low (but still positive) security status system should be a lot like going to that one neighborhood where the cops don't like to go because people shoot at them. Basically, CONCORD should behave more like police.
The fact that evading CONCORD is a violation of the EULA is bad game design. Shooting at someone in a 1.0 system should essentially be the equivalent of shooting someone outside of a police station window. You can do it, but it's not smart. The lower the security status goes (until it hits 0.0 where there are no police) the higher your chances should be of getting away with it because, just like real police, CONCORD should not be able to be everywhere at once, nor should they be all powerful. Very, very powerful? Yes. However, there is such a thing as "so powerful it's stupid," and that's where we are now. That's why there's that cliff on entering "lowsec" and that second cliff on entering 0.0.
Death to the cliffs!
EDIT: Imagine your corp is trying to gank someone in a 0.4 security system. The coast looks clear, so you engage. The fight rages on for a good 5 minutes when all of a sudden CONCORD warps on grid. OH ****, IT'S THE FUZZ! All of a sudden the fight is altered by the presence of very powerful (but not invincible) NPCs whose goal is to take down the aggressing "criminals." You can exchange shots with CONCORD, and maybe even take a few of them down (or possibly even wipe out the patrol,) but ultimately more and more CONCORD vessels will show up as the first to arrive radio in for backup. It's only a matter of time before you have to retreat, but maybe you got your kills first. Hell, "cop hunting" could become something legitimate. We already shoot at "concord" in pirate faction missions.
I'm thinking that something similar to the incursion mechanics could even be used to simulate concord patrols. Whether or not you win the game matters not. -áIt's if you bought it. |

Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
210
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Posted - 2012.09.05 18:52:00 -
[110] - Quote
Andski wrote:nat longshot wrote:yet more morons thinking they are right. Damn you people are way off.
Lady Spark please tell me what will happen if you idea comes around? what will happen to the market and ship building.
Well ill tell you this only poeople playing will be those in 0.0 they get the tect moons and all the ore's so low still will be the sh*t whole its allways been.
players will leave high and head stright for 0.0 and given goons have they highest count for players right now they will just grown and not one soul will beable to do anything or buy anything without handing more isk to the larger allinaces.
Just used goons becase they have the highest body count btw.
now lets here another failed idea from Lady. you're right everyone in 0.0 has tech moons lol
I love how every goon member regards themself as a tech moon owner when infact you are merely a pawn.
Everytime you dont like my comments/posts the terrorists win and your a disgrace to your country. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
618
|
Posted - 2012.09.05 18:55:00 -
[111] - Quote
Gibbo3771 wrote:Andski wrote:nat longshot wrote:yet more morons thinking they are right. Damn you people are way off.
Lady Spark please tell me what will happen if you idea comes around? what will happen to the market and ship building.
Well ill tell you this only poeople playing will be those in 0.0 they get the tect moons and all the ore's so low still will be the sh*t whole its allways been.
players will leave high and head stright for 0.0 and given goons have they highest count for players right now they will just grown and not one soul will beable to do anything or buy anything without handing more isk to the larger allinaces.
Just used goons becase they have the highest body count btw.
now lets here another failed idea from Lady. you're right everyone in 0.0 has tech moons lol I love how every goon member regards themself as a tech moon owner when infact you are merely a pawn. Your version of Goon is similar to the Barack Obama that Clint Eastwood was arguing with at the DNC - i.e. completely unrepresentative of the actual thing in question. I'm sure you know what this is called. http://themittani.com/features/local-problem A simple fix to the local intel problem |

Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum Still Censored
713
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Posted - 2012.09.05 18:58:00 -
[112] - Quote
About the Goons and tech thing. From last I've seen of their spreadsheets(might be TEST I'am thinking of), most of the profit from the tech actually does go back to the individual members. So in a sense they do. It is a great difference between how Goons handle moon income and say the old NC use to. |

M1k3y Koontz
Blackened Skies The Unthinkables
47
|
Posted - 2012.09.05 20:44:00 -
[113] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:Gibbo3771 wrote:Andski wrote:nat longshot wrote:yet more morons thinking they are right. Damn you people are way off.
Lady Spark please tell me what will happen if you idea comes around? what will happen to the market and ship building.
Well ill tell you this only poeople playing will be those in 0.0 they get the tect moons and all the ore's so low still will be the sh*t whole its allways been.
players will leave high and head stright for 0.0 and given goons have they highest count for players right now they will just grown and not one soul will beable to do anything or buy anything without handing more isk to the larger allinaces.
Just used goons becase they have the highest body count btw.
now lets here another failed idea from Lady. you're right everyone in 0.0 has tech moons lol I love how every goon member regards themself as a tech moon owner when infact you are merely a pawn. Your version of Goon is similar to the Barack Obama that Clint Eastwood was arguing with at the RNC - i.e. completely unrepresentative of the actual thing in question. I'm sure you know what this is called.
Should probably leave the politics out... since people in other countries probably won't understand the reference. That and RL POLITICS HAS NO BUSINESS IN MY INTERNET SPACESHIPS!!!
And CFC pets are definitely pawns, once Goons run out of targets they'll be picked off one by one for mitten's entertainment.
Goonswarm members... debatable.
How much herp could a herp derp derp if a herp derp could herp derp. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
621
|
Posted - 2012.09.05 20:47:00 -
[114] - Quote
M1k3y Koontz wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Gibbo3771 wrote:Andski wrote:nat longshot wrote:yet more morons thinking they are right. Damn you people are way off.
Lady Spark please tell me what will happen if you idea comes around? what will happen to the market and ship building.
Well ill tell you this only poeople playing will be those in 0.0 they get the tect moons and all the ore's so low still will be the sh*t whole its allways been.
players will leave high and head stright for 0.0 and given goons have they highest count for players right now they will just grown and not one soul will beable to do anything or buy anything without handing more isk to the larger allinaces.
Just used goons becase they have the highest body count btw.
now lets here another failed idea from Lady. you're right everyone in 0.0 has tech moons lol I love how every goon member regards themself as a tech moon owner when infact you are merely a pawn. Your version of Goon is similar to the Barack Obama that Clint Eastwood was arguing with at the RNC - i.e. completely unrepresentative of the actual thing in question. I'm sure you know what this is called. Should probably leave the politics out... since people in other countries probably won't understand the reference. Translation: There's evidently a version of Goons as they actually are, and then there's apparently a version that only you can see!
Also, what's a CFC pet? CFC doesn't have pets, and CFC members aren't pets. http://themittani.com/features/local-problem A simple fix to the local intel problem |

M1k3y Koontz
Blackened Skies The Unthinkables
47
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Posted - 2012.09.05 20:53:00 -
[115] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote: Translation: There's evidently a version of Goons as they actually are, and then there's apparently a version that only you can see!
Also, what's a CFC pet? CFC doesn't have pets, and CFC members aren't pets.
Yes Goons have pets: TNT RAZOR SMA FCON Gents LAWN Etc.
Part of the CFC, Goonswarm pets, they only have space because Goons, like most people, like having meat shields and need more numbers for their drake blobs.
How much herp could a herp derp derp if a herp derp could herp derp. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
621
|
Posted - 2012.09.05 20:55:00 -
[116] - Quote
M1k3y Koontz wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote: Translation: There's evidently a version of Goons as they actually are, and then there's apparently a version that only you can see!
Also, what's a CFC pet? CFC doesn't have pets, and CFC members aren't pets.
Yes Goons have pets: TNT RAZOR SMA FCON Gents LAWN Etc. Part of the CFC, Goonswarm pets, they only have space because Goons, like most people, like having meat shields and need more numbers for their drake blobs. Mutually beneficial arrangements do not pets make. A pet is when you pay an alliance for space, which is exactly what alliances like Red Citizens, AAA Citizens, etc. do. http://themittani.com/features/local-problem A simple fix to the local intel problem |

M1k3y Koontz
Blackened Skies The Unthinkables
47
|
Posted - 2012.09.05 21:00:00 -
[117] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:M1k3y Koontz wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote: Translation: There's evidently a version of Goons as they actually are, and then there's apparently a version that only you can see!
Also, what's a CFC pet? CFC doesn't have pets, and CFC members aren't pets.
Yes Goons have pets: TNT RAZOR SMA FCON Gents LAWN Etc. Part of the CFC, Goonswarm pets, they only have space because Goons, like most people, like having meat shields and need more numbers for their drake blobs. Mutually beneficial arrangements do not pets make. A pet is when you pay an alliance for space, which is exactly what alliances like Red Citizens, AAA Citizens, etc. do.
That what they told you? Paying for space makes you a renter, not a pet.
Pets = IMP-L, Cascade, PNG, those small meatshield alliances around alliance like -A- Solar, Goons, and fight for that alliance.
How much herp could a herp derp derp if a herp derp could herp derp. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
621
|
Posted - 2012.09.05 21:03:00 -
[118] - Quote
Renters are pets, because the alliance that rents out to you really doesn't give a **** about you. They only care about their profit. http://themittani.com/features/local-problem A simple fix to the local intel problem |

Denidil
Evocations of Shadow Eternal Evocations
496
|
Posted - 2012.09.05 21:22:00 -
[119] - Quote
Lady Spank. Contract me all your items and isk. then biomass. thank you. If you don't see a problem in 0.0 eroding into two big super-coalitions and a few hangers on in areas nobody cares about.. then you don't have brains. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
623
|
Posted - 2012.09.05 21:32:00 -
[120] - Quote
Am I the only one that didn't see Lady Spank's post for the satire it was? http://themittani.com/features/local-problem A simple fix to the local intel problem |

IGNATIUS HOOD
Zephyr Corp Black Thorne Alliance
328
|
Posted - 2012.09.05 21:40:00 -
[121] - Quote
Pak Narhoo wrote:He kid, stop using your mom's account! Hm, reminds of that kid who did and lost his dad's super carrier. Now that was fun to read. 
Link or I call BS! "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."--H.L. Mencken |

Russell Casey
Deep Void Industrial Group Damned Nation
189
|
Posted - 2012.09.05 22:01:00 -
[122] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:Renters are pets, because the alliance that rents out to you really doesn't give a **** about you. They only care about their profit.
You'd think the renters would get tired of that and just team up to take over space for themselves... |

Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
225
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Posted - 2012.09.06 01:38:00 -
[123] - Quote
came expecting James 315
left dissapointed
also; you really think theyre gonna nerf miners after buffing the hell out of them? lol moar qq http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears
you will be harvested |

Mallak Azaria
604
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Posted - 2012.09.06 02:50:00 -
[124] - Quote
Frying Doom wrote:Other than that it sound like the other big thread whining about the barges.
It's not about the barges, it's about the exhumers.
Mining Barge buff: CCP-áhas acknowledged that miners in general-áare too stupid to make the correct fitting choices to make ganking them unprofitable. |

Herr Hammer Draken
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
99
|
Posted - 2012.09.06 03:11:00 -
[125] - Quote
Mallak Azaria wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Other than that it sound like the other big thread whining about the barges. It's not about the barges, it's about the exhumers.
Yea and it seems kind of backwards to me. In production of anything a builder needs 1,000 times as much trit and high sec minerals as he does the null sec ores like megacyte. So following the laws of supply and demand the mining ships that can mine ore faster and more of it are naturally fitting the bill to mine the ores most used. Those that mine slower and less would naturally fit the ores less used like null sec ores.
I know everybody wants top turn it around in terms of risk level. I am restating it in terms of supply and demand.
The main reason for this is because of the already over supplied null sec ores. That is why the prices are so cheap on them as compared to high sec ores. The null sec ores are over mined. The building ratio of anything that needs to be built requires X of each type of mineral. Always more of the high sec minerals and less of the null sec minerals. When builders go to build stuff they run out of the high sec ores not enough available on the market. But the null sec ores are plentifull everywhere. So he buys only as much of it as he needs. Leaves the rest on the market for the next guy. What does that say about the supply? And what does that do to price? Herr Hammer Draken "The Amarr Prophet" |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1302
|
Posted - 2012.09.06 03:14:00 -
[126] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:Translation: There's evidently a version of Goons as they actually are, and then there's apparently a version that only you can see!
Also, what's a CFC pet? CFC doesn't have pets, and CFC members aren't pets. Apparently someone decloaked us.
One sec, let me get to a safe and activate my cloak module. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

NeoShocker
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
132
|
Posted - 2012.09.06 07:20:00 -
[127] - Quote
Hrm, I expected better Spank. You're just ranting and not thinking logically. |
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