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Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
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Posted - 2012.09.04 13:43:00 -
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GUYS! No matter what you do .. DO NOT sell PLEX for less than 540 mil Be patient.... sit tight on your PLEXes . If we all set the prices at 540 and above , the prices are gonna soar , and its INSTA profit for all of us.
ISKs to some are far too easy to earn... so they WILL whine , THEY WILL complain , but as long as you are selling PLEX , and they aren't willing to pay REAL $$$$ for it . We'll still make a profit tin the LONG run!
LETS SEE TO IT we PUSH plexes to 700 mil!!
OFF WE GO!!!!!!! Life is complicated. When the war came I did bad things; after the war I thought nothing of doing bad things. I killed people, smuggled people, sold people. Maybe here things will be different.. |

terzslave
RedStar Enterprises RED Citizens
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Posted - 2012.09.04 13:52:00 -
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Shouldn't you lay off the posts Ivy.......ya know, give ISD a break :) |

Barakach
R-ISK Shadow Operations.
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Posted - 2012.09.04 13:52:00 -
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I'm not sure 700m would be good for the economy. Even 540m will start to hurt in the long run. |

JohnathanGalt
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.09.04 13:54:00 -
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This is an odd combination of market manipulation combined with a speech by the coach before a game. It is pretty funny, but I like it in kind of an odd way. GL. |

Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
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Posted - 2012.09.04 13:58:00 -
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Barakach wrote:I'm not sure 700m would be good for the economy. Even 540m will start to hurt in the long run.
HELL with the economy , I am going Republican on this sheet Life is complicated. When the war came I did bad things; after the war I thought nothing of doing bad things. I killed people, smuggled people, sold people. Maybe here things will be different.. |

Poultergoose4
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2012.09.04 14:02:00 -
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Ivy Romanova wrote:Barakach wrote:I'm not sure 700m would be good for the economy. Even 540m will start to hurt in the long run. HELL with the economy , I am going Republican on this sheet If that's the case you'll lose then :D |

CorInaXeraL
Order of the Silver Dragons Silver Dragonz
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Posted - 2012.09.04 14:04:00 -
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You keep pushing. If you post everything at 540m, I'll gladly help by selling all of mine to you for 520m. |

Barakach
R-ISK Shadow Operations.
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Posted - 2012.09.04 14:05:00 -
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I can't find any sources, but I was under the impression that CCP frowns upon PLEX manipulation. ?? <--- question, not response |

Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
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Posted - 2012.09.04 14:07:00 -
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CorInaXeraL wrote:You keep pushing. If you post everything at 540m, I'll gladly help by selling all of mine to you for 520m. that will have to wait , the current average transaction price is at 500mil , fluctuating between 540 and 450 mil across New EDEN . IT has to be a collaborative effort for this to work.
Barakach wrote:I can't find any sources, but I was under the impression that CCP frowns upon PLEX manipulation. ?? <--- question, not response
well.. this IS EVE , the capitalist supreme.... No one said anything about forming cartels and collude to manipulate the market, look at Goonswarm and the burn Jita event . They manipulated it and CCP didn't whine Life is complicated. When the war came I did bad things; after the war I thought nothing of doing bad things. I killed people, smuggled people, sold people. Maybe here things will be different.. |

sodney
Elite Aeronautic Developer Syndicate Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.09.04 15:02:00 -
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Barakach wrote:I can't find any sources, but I was under the impression that CCP frowns upon PLEX manipulation. ?? <--- question, not response
was said on the fanfest irrc...was it crime watch beeing responsible for that? |

SealteamXI
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.09.04 15:05:00 -
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With PLEX at 500M, more people are buying them now than they ever did at 300M. It's a market driven by demand, and that demand just goes up, and up and up. There's no need to try to manipulate things. |

Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
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Posted - 2012.09.04 15:09:00 -
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SealteamXI wrote:With PLEX at 500M, more people are buying them now than they ever did at 300M. It's a market driven by demand, and that demand just goes up, and up and up. There's no need to try to manipulate things. doesn't hurt to give it a slight PUSH!
 Life is complicated. When the war came I did bad things; after the war I thought nothing of doing bad things. I killed people, smuggled people, sold people. Maybe here things will be different.. |

Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
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Posted - 2012.09.04 15:24:00 -
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You don't seem to get how the PLEX market works.
PLEX supply drops and PLEX prices go up.
High PLEX prices result in the little lazy rich kids buying PLEX for real $$ and selling them to raise isk. The higher the price the more players sell PLEX.
As more PLEX are bought an sold on the market the supply goes up filling the demand.
Once the supply meets or exceeds the demand the price will crash.
500,000,000 isk seems to be about the point currently where players believe the cost in real $$ for a PLEX is worth while compared to the time in game required to make that much isk.
CCP helps to curb the inflation of PLEX by offering special PLEX sales reducing the real $$ investment.
If you had enough isk or enough like minded players you could try buying up all the available PLEX and reselling them at a higher price, But I would expect that to back fire.
What would happen is many players would Jump on the PLEX bandwagon with the high prices buying PLEX with real $$ to sell for isk. This influx of newly purchased PLEX would fill the inflated buy orders, and you would be stuck with a pile of PLEX you over paid for.
I for one would not hesitate to buy a 1/2 dozen PLEX or more to take advantage of the temporary high PLEX prices to inflate my coffers a bit. I could always buy them back after the price drops and use them for game time regaining my real $$ investment, while retaining the profit from the difference between sell price and buy back price. |

Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
126
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Posted - 2012.09.04 15:29:00 -
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Bugsy VanHalen wrote:You don't seem to get how the PLEX market works.
PLEX supply drops and PLEX prices go up.
High PLEX prices result in the little lazy rich kids buying PLEX for real $$ and selling them to raise isk. The higher the price the more players sell PLEX.
As more PLEX are bought an sold on the market the supply goes up filling the demand.
Once the supply meets or exceeds the demand the price will crash.
500,000,000 isk seems to be about the point currently where players believe the cost in real $$ for a PLEX is worth while compared to the time in game required to make that much isk.
CCP helps to curb the inflation of PLEX by offering special PLEX sales reducing the real $$ investment.
If you had enough isk or enough like minded players you could try buying up all the available PLEX and reselling them at a higher price, But I would expect that to back fire.
What would happen is many players would Jump on the PLEX bandwagon with the high prices buying PLEX with real $$ to sell for isk. This influx of newly purchased PLEX would fill the inflated buy orders, and you would be stuck with a pile of PLEX you over paid for.
I for one would not hesitate to buy a 1/2 dozen PLEX or more to take advantage of the temporary high PLEX prices to inflate my coffers a bit. I could always buy them back after the price drops and use them for game time regaining my real $$ spent while retaining the profit from the difference between sell price and buy back price.
Neither do you . We are not pushing towards the equilibrium , we are increasing our profit. The demand elasticity for PLEX is VERY inelastic. Meaning the percentage change in quantity demanded is less than the percentage change in price, as when people make up their mind they don't want to pay real money for a game, they just won't. So if we keep pushing it , with the price constant, the seller' will just keep on winning . If we play our cards right , and tweak the price according to the player counts , producer's surplus keeps on going. We keep on winning more!
ITS WIN-WIN! I win once, and I win again

The reason I make this thread is because I KNOW what would happen when CCP pushes a PLEX sale , it dips to oblivion. BUT! By colluding , we can stop the trend , and ride the tides to a sun set. That would only work when everyone works together!and stop being an impatient myopic arse that can't wait 2 seconds . You reap what you sow. Life is complicated. When the war came I did bad things; after the war I thought nothing of doing bad things. I killed people, smuggled people, sold people. Maybe here things will be different.. |

Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management Unified Church of the Unobligated
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Posted - 2012.09.04 15:37:00 -
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Ivy Romanova wrote:Barakach wrote:I'm not sure 700m would be good for the economy. Even 540m will start to hurt in the long run. HELL with the economy , I am going Republican on this sheet
So you're admitting to being an idiot then? Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method Mamma didn't raise no victims. |

Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
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Posted - 2012.09.04 15:40:00 -
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Virgil Travis wrote:Ivy Romanova wrote:Barakach wrote:I'm not sure 700m would be good for the economy. Even 540m will start to hurt in the long run. HELL with the economy , I am going Republican on this sheet So you're admitting to being an idiot then?
NOPE! I am admitting to be an capitalist supremacist s-hat that doesn't care about the well being of my fellow citizens and only care about do i get a bonus this year so I can buy 10 new Aston Martins . And I don't feel a sense of guilt at all lolollool and if you join me, we can fly to New Caldari to check out them fit stallions or birds if you are a man EVERY DARN week Life is complicated. When the war came I did bad things; after the war I thought nothing of doing bad things. I killed people, smuggled people, sold people. Maybe here things will be different.. |

DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2012.09.04 16:49:00 -
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PLEX seems to have a big IRRATIONAL martket componentto its price mosreso then everything except margin trade scam items =========================================================
EVE residents: 5% Wormholes; 8% Lowsec; 20% Nullsec; 67% Highsec. CSM 6: 100% Nullsec residents. EVE demographics vs CSM demographics, nothing to worry about... |

Rengerel en Distel
Amarr Science and Industry
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Posted - 2012.09.04 16:52:00 -
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You can set yours at 540M all you want. The 99% of the people that don't read this forum will cash out long before it gets to that point. It's the same reason all the miners can't just set mineral prices, there is always someone willing to take less.
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Regent Castro
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.09.04 17:22:00 -
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Personally I think anyone who is anyone who is someone who refuses to pay with RL money for this game is more than likely to have at least a couple years supply of PLEX stashed away, at least for their main character(s). I know I do. You have to raise the prices to an unacceptable level then KEEP them there to destroy this stockpile and that will take many months if not years. Once the stockpiles are gone, PLEX can happily go up to billions and the end of EVE for anyone who doesn't pay with RL cash occurs. (assuming there really is as few people who would be willing to buy PLEX with cash to get ISK as I feel there is). |

Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
126
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Posted - 2012.09.04 17:28:00 -
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Rengerel en Distel wrote:You can set yours at 540M all you want. The 99% of the people that don't read this forum will cash out long before it gets to that point. It's the same reason all the miners can't just set mineral prices, there is always someone willing to take less.
Ahh the bad apples, you gotta love them. Life is complicated. When the war came I did bad things; after the war I thought nothing of doing bad things. I killed people, smuggled people, sold people. Maybe here things will be different.. |

Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
126
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Posted - 2012.09.04 17:29:00 -
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Regent Castro wrote:Personally I think anyone who is anyone who is someone who refuses to pay with RL money for this game is more than likely to have at least a couple years supply of PLEX stashed away, at least for their main character(s). I know I do. You have to raise the prices to an unacceptable level then KEEP them there to destroy this stockpile and that will take many months if not years. Once the stockpiles are gone, PLEX can happily go up to billions and the end of EVE for anyone who doesn't pay with RL cash occurs. (assuming there really is as few people who would be willing to buy PLEX with cash to get ISK as I feel there is). True, but on a macro scale, in general the prices will still spike. Life is complicated. When the war came I did bad things; after the war I thought nothing of doing bad things. I killed people, smuggled people, sold people. Maybe here things will be different.. |

Jajas Helper
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Posted - 2012.09.04 17:40:00 -
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I too have 150 plex sitting in jita bought at 499mil ^^ please do what this op said and let me cash out before everyone else does... Inferno do stuff with stuff to imitate the stuff you could do faster with the old stuff
-stuff- |

Kara Books
Deal with IT.
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Posted - 2012.09.04 18:32:00 -
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Iv seen 5 FIVE rallies hit 520 and they all went down in flames.
Sounds like OP wants some idiot to post a 530M buy order so they can unload their plex, otherwise they would have pushed it themselves and it would have already bin done.
FIVE rallies, professionally done ones with price barriers and everything done right still crushed every single time.
On a side note there are already hidden channels supplying people with plexes ranging from 470-480M ISK per unit, the ones you cant just infiltrate.
On a side note, no, im not kidding, iv seen several with my own personal witnessing eyes.
If CCP wants to push plex, OK we will Deal with IT. as we would have no choice but for the sake of profits, NO, this can only chase new players away without due research. |

Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
128
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Posted - 2012.09.05 02:37:00 -
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Kara Books wrote:Iv seen 5 FIVE rallies hit 520 and they all went down in flames.
Sounds like OP wants some idiot to post a 530M buy order so they can unload their plex, otherwise they would have pushed it themselves and it would have already bin done.
FIVE rallies, professionally done ones with price barriers and everything done right still crushed every single time.
On a side note there are already hidden channels supplying people with plexes ranging from 470-480M ISK per unit, the ones you cant just infiltrate.
On a side note, no, im not kidding, iv seen several with my own personal witnessing eyes.
If CCP wants to push plex, OK we will Deal with IT. as we would have no choice but for the sake of profits, NO, this can only chase new players away without due research. NO!! I am not some American bullcrap CEO who needs to churn out a 50% increase in profit every year. I am trying to drive it up so PLEX is worth MUCH more.
Do you know why the rallies crashed every time? Its because of those bad apples among us. Those who can't wait for 2 weeks for the price to soar.
We CAN'T do it alone ! Life is complicated. When the war came I did bad things; after the war I thought nothing of doing bad things. I killed people, smuggled people, sold people. Maybe here things will be different.. |

Ghazu
100
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Posted - 2012.09.05 03:37:00 -
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Why is every thread you start so shite |

Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
128
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Posted - 2012.09.05 03:39:00 -
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Ghazu wrote:Why is every thread you start so shite why you never start any threads and have so few likes for your age? No personal attack please Life is complicated. When the war came I did bad things; after the war I thought nothing of doing bad things. I killed people, smuggled people, sold people. Maybe here things will be different.. |

Cedo Nulli
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
228
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Posted - 2012.09.05 03:46:00 -
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Is it just me or .... is this thread only about OP loving the spotlight with absolutely no substance to his "idea" ?
Sure seems like egoboosting bullcrap to me. |

enterprisePSI
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Posted - 2012.09.05 04:46:00 -
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What we should do is drive the PLEX price below 300 mil.  The tears of the many, outweight the tears of the few. Or the one.
-«enterprise-psi |

Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
128
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Posted - 2012.09.05 05:34:00 -
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enterprisePSI wrote:What we should do is drive the PLEX price below 300 mil. 
if thats what happened ,then PLEX isn't worth the trouble , and should be removed. AS 300mil is just like a day of hardly working Life is complicated. When the war came I did bad things; after the war I thought nothing of doing bad things. I killed people, smuggled people, sold people. Maybe here things will be different.. |

Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
317
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Posted - 2012.09.05 10:43:00 -
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Cedo Nulli wrote:Is it just me or .... is this thread only about OP loving the spotlight with absolutely no substance to his "idea" ? -į-įGū¦ Gū¦-įGū¦
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
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