I'm not sure 700m would be good for the economy. Even 540m will start to hurt in the long run.

HELL with the economy , I am going Republican on this sheet

You keep pushing. If you post everything at 540m, I'll gladly help by selling all of mine to you for 520m.

I can't find any sources, but I was under the impression that CCP frowns upon PLEX manipulation. ?? <--- question, not response

I can't find any sources, but I was under the impression that CCP frowns upon PLEX manipulation. ?? <--- question, not response

With PLEX at 500M, more people are buying them now than they ever did at 300M. It's a market driven by demand, and that demand just goes up, and up and up. There's no need to try to manipulate things.

You don't seem to get how the PLEX market works.

PLEX supply drops and PLEX prices go up.

High PLEX prices result in the little lazy rich kids buying PLEX for real $$ and selling them to raise isk. The higher the price the more players sell PLEX.

As more PLEX are bought an sold on the market the supply goes up filling the demand.

Once the supply meets or exceeds the demand the price will crash.

500,000,000 isk seems to be about the point currently where players believe the cost in real $$ for a PLEX is worth while compared to the time in game required to make that much isk.

CCP helps to curb the inflation of PLEX by offering special PLEX sales reducing the real $$ investment.

If you had enough isk or enough like minded players you could try buying up all the available PLEX and reselling them at a higher price, But I would expect that to back fire.

What would happen is many players would Jump on the PLEX bandwagon with the high prices buying PLEX with real $$ to sell for isk. This influx of newly purchased PLEX would fill the inflated buy orders, and you would be stuck with a pile of PLEX you over paid for.

I for one would not hesitate to buy a 1/2 dozen PLEX or more to take advantage of the temporary high PLEX prices to inflate my coffers a bit. I could always buy them back after the price drops and use them for game time regaining my real $$ spent while retaining the profit from the difference between sell price and buy back price.

HELL with the economy , I am going Republican on this sheet

So you're admitting to being an idiot then?

You can set yours at 540M all you want. The 99% of the people that don't read this forum will cash out long before it gets to that point. It's the same reason all the miners can't just set mineral prices, there is always someone willing to take less.

Personally I think anyone who is anyone who is someone who refuses to pay with RL money for this game is more than likely to have at least a couple years supply of PLEX stashed away, at least for their main character(s). I know I do. You have to raise the prices to an unacceptable level then KEEP them there to destroy this stockpile and that will take many months if not years. Once the stockpiles are gone, PLEX can happily go up to billions and the end of EVE for anyone who doesn't pay with RL cash occurs. (assuming there really is as few people who would be willing to buy PLEX with cash to get ISK as I feel there is).

Iv seen 5 FIVE rallies hit 520 and they all went down in flames.

Sounds like OP wants some idiot to post a 530M buy order so they can unload their plex, otherwise they would have pushed it themselves and it would have already bin done.

FIVE rallies, professionally done ones with price barriers and everything done right still crushed every single time.

On a side note there are already hidden channels supplying people with plexes ranging from 470-480M ISK per unit, the ones you cant just infiltrate.

On a side note, no, im not kidding, iv seen several with my own personal witnessing eyes.

If CCP wants to push plex, OK we will Deal with IT. as we would have no choice but for the sake of profits, NO, this can only chase new players away without due research.

Why is every thread you start so shite

What we should do is drive the PLEX price below 300 mil.

Is it just me or .... is this thread only about OP loving the spotlight with absolutely no substance to his "idea" ?

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That was my first thought to.

GUYS!
No matter what you do ..
DO NOT sell PLEX for less than 540 mil
Be patient....
sit tight on your PLEXes .
If we all set the prices at 540 and above , the prices are gonna soar , and its INSTA profit for all of us.

ISKs to some are far too easy to earn... so they WILL whine , THEY WILL complain , but as long as you are selling PLEX , and they aren't willing to pay REAL $$$$ for it .
We'll still make a profit tin the LONG run!

LETS SEE TO IT we PUSH plexes to 700 mil!!

WE CAN DO IT GUYS!
YES WE CAN!!

I look forward to watching you get your **** hammered. CCP will start selling them and stick it to you hardcore. Remember it's a Europoean company - they are really socialists at heart and as they said during the last fan fest they are prepared to act if forces start breaking the game. Like tanking out mining ships for those poor empire pubbies, this too they would fix.

Zelda??

3 Pyramids.

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do you think supply is less then demand in plex system?
i think current high plex value is an efect of manipulation notheing more, look how many unused plex are on market and try to buy all.Very quick ther will be more and more new plexys... so supply is greater then demand, much greater & if so, market dont work the way as it should.

PLEX prices just rise cause of DUST514.

I look forward to watching you get your **** hammered. CCP will start selling them and stick it to you hardcore. Remember it's a Europoean company - they are really socialists at heart and as they said during the last fan fest they are prepared to act if forces start breaking the game. Like tanking out mining ships for those poor empire pubbies, this too they would fix.

The 3 factors of PLEX:

New players. Many new players buy plex when they start for some starter isk. If lots of new players are joining at a given time this can push the prices of plex down.

Ore. Many vetran players don't care about the plex to isk ratio. They care about the PLEX to mineral ratio. It's the buying power of the PLEX that is important not the isk value of the PLEX. If prices are way down and PLEX is down only a little it might be a great time to get some PLEX turned into isk. When minerals go up and down PLEX follows.

Speculation. This is the smallest factor of the 3 and the least sustainible. It's biggest infulance is around patches just like everything else. Dust will probly cause some of this one way or the other.

If you think you can hold PLEX prices at a certain point you should think again.

Before the OP gets any delusions of grandeur regarding the current rise in prices for PLEX, I'd like to pop in and shoot him down.

Plexes are rising in price because FW is a laughably enormous "faucet"* that is easily accessible.

*No, not an actual faucet, that's why it's in quotes you pedantic numbskull.

I just checked the plex market and all i can say, oh boy. At the time i'm posting
Jita
~200 Plex for sell alltogether at any price
buy: 512m
sell: 524m

Rens
~20 Plex for sell alltogether at any price
buy: 509m
sell: 518m

Amarr
~40 Plex for sell alltogether at any price
buy: 509m
sell: 523m

Dodixie
~30 Plex for sell alltogether at any price
buy: 509m
sell: 519m

You all know the Plex volume in Jita is roughly 2.2k per day and all other hubs combined another 1.2k. You can draw your own conclusion but Plex will be soon 1b.

You all know the Plex volume in Jita is roughly 2.2k per day and all other hubs combined another 1.2k. You can draw your own conclusion but Plex will be soon 1b.

What's interesting is that it isn't an ISK Faucet like every NULL SEccer's whined about with incursions but its on the verge of causeing arise in PLEX that is about to break the last year's high PLEX prices unless DrE starts releasing the confiscated bot supplies of PLEX.

I'm curious what the bounties have increased to monthlysince the drones started paying ISK & if WH blue loots have increseased at all since the flight from Incursionsbut CCP Diagoras is no longer tweeting stats &we've in a blackout period of any economic data from CCP since Escaltation pretty much.

I bet its going to hit 575 and then come crashing down to 510, basicly the market is gaining 5M isk each rally.

at 560 id test and see if I can crash it SLOWLY (painfully)
at 600 id brind it below 490 buy orders and 500 sell orders (must be repeated several times to take out most of the small guys)

The amount of posts and please asking for public support are a Massive sign of weakness, Don't put all your eggs into one basket, Play both sides and make sure your on the winning end,there is a chance, this might work, even thought most of us hope it doesn't.

Nope, i'm just a trader. The point is the available Plex on the market and i have never saw only 200 Plex in Jita for sale in the last 3years not to mention that the other hubs dry out too.
My best argument is the available cash in Eve, it's still to easy to get rich and lots of +1 year older player have no problem to pay 500m per Plex. Other reason could be the big unsubbing Summer 2011 and many not resubbing via CC, more miners dual/triple boxing than ever and botting is still going on heavily including miner and mission bots.

I don't know the exact reason but i can see that the Plex supply is very low and it's only early September.

Diagoras left CCP. And believe me, I think the fact that you can make this kind of isk basically risk-free is dumb...hell, ANYWHERE, just like I thought incursions were dumb in highsec.

raising plex means losing players, and profiting th few rich.

there is no balance. I say Raise plex to stupid prices then perma ban the hell out of the rich, fix the game economy while your at it, problem solved.

Cure of of these 2 Cancers, Please.

HA!
Profiting the rich?
You mean profiting the able and the mega corporations.
PLEX prices have been soaring , and WILL keep on soaring.
As long as no one comes along and be a selfish arse , and crash the market, like the IMF .
Its only going to go UP UP and AWAYYYYY!!!

Okay, I've read just about enough of this moronic talk.

1) Stop drinking so much coffee, or whatever is making you use caps and yell.
2) Markets are driven primarily by Supply and Demand
3) Most Changes in the PLEX prices are due to Expansions and Patches, etc
4) You are but an insignificant drop in the water of the PLEX Market.
5) A cartel that held a theoretical super-majority could drive the price up. But this is assuming no one would cash out, and that no one else would step in and profit.
6) IF you somehow were able to move the market up, since there is no driving supply or demand, it would simply fall back down, like the ocean waves eroding your sandcastle.
7) You make all these hurf-blurf posts about how you are going to be so rich and profit of plex sales. Let me tell you something, the people that actually have influence in the market dont rant like you do. Because they understand how things work.
8) Go ahead with your plan, see it fail, not even, it wont leave the ground.
9) Learn basic market mechanics, then make a "good post"

Nope, i'm just a trader. The point is the available Plex on the market and i have never saw only 200 Plex in Jita for sale in the last 3years not to mention that the other hubs dry out too.
My best argument is the available cash in Eve, it's still to easy to get rich and lots of +1 year older player have no problem to pay 500m per Plex. Other reason could be the big unsubbing Summer 2011 and many not resubbing via CC, more miners dual/triple boxing than ever and botting is still going on heavily including miner and mission bots.

I don't know the exact reason but i can see that the Plex supply is very low and it's only early September.

2)Market are driven my market and demand in a ceteris paribus condition , but under collusion and cartel, it can be manipulated.
3)In contrary to conventional wisdom of which when the PLEX prices drop due to sale, its price has reached a new height of 550mil holding.
4)Of course I am, thats why I am calling for cooperation among PLEX sellers .
5/6)(Refer to 4) and There will always be driving demand. EVE Online never let you go, you'll just find new way to earn more money, and drive up the mineral prices,etc. The one who are prepared will profit, those who aren't will perish.
7) Apparently you are the sort that believe in fair trade.
8)Don't need to , the market is already going where I wanted.
9) Differentiate practicality and reality from academic curiosity.

PLEX goes up, PLEX goes down, you can't explain that.

Make sure to sell dem plexes befor the FW gets fixed!

Also, make sure to sell them now, before people stop buying them to put bids in for the upcoming tourny!

Now would did I tell you.
I forsee a future where PLEX will rise continuously and plateau.
And now it has reached 600 MIL
Much higer than I would ever had imagined.
but its time to STOP .
STOP NOW, before CCP initiate their god hands.
The market cannot take any higher than this.
HOLD AT 600 mil.
Sell at 600mil.
BUT NO LESS!

Didn't you say 700?
Why selling yourself short?

Push to 1B!

because if that happens
CCP is gonna crash the market by setting the PLEX prices to unreasonably low prices

EDIT:
Now what did I tell you.
I forsee a future where PLEX will rise continuously and plateau.
And now it has reached 600 MIL
Much higer than I would ever had imagined.
but its time to STOP .
STOP NOW, before CCP initiate their god hands.
The market cannot take any higher than this.
HOLD AT 600 mil.
Sell at 600mil.
BUT NO LESS!

Now would did I tell you.
I forsee a future where PLEX will rise continuously and plateau.
And now it has reached 600 MIL
Much higer than I would ever had imagined.
but its time to STOP .
STOP NOW, before CCP initiate their god hands.
The market cannot take any higher than this.
HOLD AT 600 mil.
Sell at 600mil.
BUT NO LESS!

You still think you're the one causing this.


How precious.

I would like to see it at 1 Billion ISK! EVERYONE STOP HOLDING, KEEP ON PUSHING THE PRICE!

Better than thinking

"ohhh I'm a useless fkuck who can't do sheit and only whines on the forum ."
I'll say.

Hahaha, I wonder what will CCP do.

Plex price will be capped by the demand ice and roid bots can mine profitably each month. If you want to know how far plex can climb take your ice bot months income - 100m. When Ice and roid bots unsub plex will crash followed by massive ice and mineral spike. Buy ice now if you predict further plex rises.

Nothing, people are going to be more willing to spend $ on plex when it's worht more isk

Hahaha, I wonder what will CCP do.