Never stop posting.

Next you'll be telling us how people who use PLEX for game time are taking subscription money away from CCP.

At this point the rich benefit, the poor do not, a player in my corp who left recently had 42 billion ISK as he brought two plexes a week non stop since he started playing, he has ships and fits i could only dream of having.

Shut up

And there went the idea that EVE players were intelligent.

At this point the rich benefit, the poor do not, a player in my corp who left recently had 42 billion ISK as he brought two plexes a week non stop since he started playing, he has ships and fits i could only dream of having.

My advice: try engaging brain before making posts in future.

the only other way to do it is more ships need to explode becuase in the ships and mods is inherent ISK value. when those ships and mods get destroyed that value is erased.

And there went the idea that EVE players were intelligent.

Discuss, and actually think about the ramifications of this before u troll the crap out of it

Taranius

I think the OP just worded his argument incorrectly. From my understanding, he (or she, idk) suggested that PLEX is to be made as this huge isk sink rather than circulated market item.

My advice: try engaging brain before making posts in future.

So the player buys a plex for isk and the isk disappears, ccp is giving away free game time......

Thats a good business plan.

ofc not, freedom of speech luv :)

Learn to understand isk sinks and faucets. Also learn freedom of speech. You are wrong on both counts.

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It's a very good business plan. If even some of the players that use Plex to fun their accounts simply stop playing the Eve economy would shrink.

Also, I'm not sure why you think that CCP are giving away 'free' time. They don't. Plexes are not free.

Now I don't pretend to be an expert, but people who want to make statements about the state of the Eve Economy need to realise that there are full time, professional economists working for CCP, before making brash, unresearched, baseless arguments based on impulsive and incomplete understanding of the problem.

Have cleaned troll, bait, off topic and otherwise derailing posts from the thread.

I may have missed some, I'm new, so please report where needed.

Have cleaned troll, bait, off topic and otherwise derailing posts from the thread.

I may have missed some, I'm new, so please report where needed.

Have cleaned troll, bait, off topic and otherwise derailing posts from the thread.

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Shut up

WTF? Where's my
post?

But why the fu*k do you delete my post? Change it if you don't like it Mr. "ISD" but... WTF? aaah... crap. You ISD dudes sucks somtimes. really! BTW it was the most liked comment in this thread....
EvE-O is 1984 now or what? Make your "now" you like it by changing the past?

Or am I just drunk (cause I am)?

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Taranius,

You have leapt right over the main motivation of your argument: you mentioned that your friend can afford much nicer ships than you. This implies that you think frigates are not nice ships. A pox on you! You should enjoy the power and beauty of your frigate.

If you don't have enough ISK to blow up a dozen frigates a week, learn how to make more ISK.

I've cleaned the thread. Keep it civil folks. It's up to you to post constructively.

At this point the rich benefit, the poor do not, a player in my corp who left recently had 42 billion ISK as he brought two plexes a week non stop since he started playing, he has ships and fits i could only dream of having.

if you want to lower inflation you need to get CCP to either shut off the ISK faucets or make the sinks bigger.

~Faucets are anything that creates value in the form of ISK or Product out of thin air
~Sinks are anything that takes value away without a return in product or ISK

i'll let you figure out where they are in this game becuase there are many and they are varied. they are also sacred cows that CCP must be careful in dealing with for the wrath of internet spacepilots is quick to attract and ugly to witness.

the only other way to do it is more ships need to explode becuase in the ships and mods is inherent ISK value. when those ships and mods get destroyed that value is erased.

hope this helps.

I've cleaned the thread. Keep it civil folks. It's up to you to post constructively.

Have cleaned troll, bait, off topic and otherwise derailing posts from the thread.

I may have missed some, I'm new, so please report where needed.

You haven't cleaned the OP, because it's a troll too.
I'll silently say "I told you so" when you lock the thread.

No, u just like most of the eve population are to stupid to even understand what this post is about

Plex - Brought with RL Money

Player buys plex from market

ISK does not leave game

I.e not enuff sinks in the game, leads to inflation, standard market 101 irl as is eve market.

Unfortunately your to damn stupid to understand what i was saying because you are to busy trying to be a smart ass and troll this thread like the last two pages of responses

Typical eve elitist bull crap :)

I believe that a massive ISK inflation is the PLEX.

No, u just like most of the eve population are to stupid to even understand what this post is about

Plex - Brought with RL Money

Player buys plex from market

ISK does not leave game

I.e not enuff sinks in the game, leads to inflation, standard market 101 irl as is eve market.

Unfortunately your to damn stupid to understand what i was saying because you are to busy trying to be a smart ass and troll this thread like the last two pages of responses

Typical eve elitist bull crap :)

Hi

a player in my corp who left recently had 42 billion ISK as he brought two plexes a week non stop since he started playing, he has ships and fits i could only dream of having.

No, u just like most of the eve population are to stupid to even understand what this post is about

Plex - Brought with RL Money

Player buys plex from market

ISK does not leave game

I.e not enuff sinks in the game, leads to inflation, standard market 101 irl as is eve market.

Unfortunately your to damn stupid to understand what i was saying because you are to busy trying to be a smart ass and troll this thread like the last two pages of responses

Typical eve elitist bull crap :)

It's a very good business plan. If even some of the players that use Plex to fun their accounts simply stop playing the Eve economy would shrink.

Also, I'm not sure why you think that CCP are giving away 'free' time. They don't. Plexes are not free.

Now I don't pretend to be an expert, but people who want to make statements about the state of the Eve Economy need to realise that there are full time, professional economists working for CCP, before making brash, unresearched, baseless arguments based on impulsive and incomplete understanding of the problem.

You are partially right, i.e. PLEX CAN affect the inflation of the ISK but not in the manner you suggest, i.e. not removing ISK from the economy, but more by monetary velocity http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velocity_of_money

You can get more information about the Inflation of ISK (for 2011 at least) here http://youtu.be/7MZD6-vGQms?t=23m14s

How are plex not free if ccp is selling them to players for isk without another player paying for the game time? Did you even read the op?

Discuss, and actually think about the ramifications of this before u troll the crap out of it

Taranius

Hi

I believe that a massive ISK inflation is the PLEX. I believe that the only way to fix the market and remove ISK from the game is to remove plexes as a brought item. This will slowly drain ISK out of the game forcing players to make money and seek more valuable space.

It is quite clear that if you have *lots* of money IRL you can get ahead by purchasing shiny ships, funding massive alliances, this should not be allowed to continue.

Plex should be an ITEM brought in game from CCP directly through the char sheet and the ISK should disappear from game. Not be pumped back back into it.

At this point the rich benefit, the poor do not, a player in my corp who left recently had 42 billion ISK as he brought two plexes a week non stop since he started playing, he has ships and fits i could only dream of having.

Plex needs to be removed as a micro transaction from this game and the ISK when a plex is brought thru your char sheet should go to a CCP IN-GAME BANK and should disappear.

Discuss, and actually think about the ramifications of this before u troll the crap out of it

Taranius

PLEX are not free. The person buying the PLEX from CCP pays with real money (PLEX prices are set higher than subs). So the PLEX (sub if used that way) has already been paid for.

Items in general should be removed from the game because they all "create" isk.

I love this new definition of "create".

You are partially right, i.e. PLEX CAN affect the inflation of the ISK but not in the manner you suggest, i.e. not removing ISK from the economy, but more by monetary velocity http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velocity_of_money

You can get more information about the Inflation of ISK (for 2011 at least) here http://youtu.be/7MZD6-vGQms?t=23m14s

You started the opening post by say



Which is clearly wrong, PLEX do not create isk inflation they simply move isk around. No isk is being added and non removed although in the case of the removed part it's not quite true as you have to pay the market charges when selling the PLEX.

Thread should end with this. One more time - and follow along - The buying and selling of PLEX does not create ISK.

I COULD play EVE next week and run missions, mine, do other money making things, so I have enough ISK to PVP come the weekend but whats the point when I can just buy a PLEX for, lets face it a low sum of real life money and then sell that for ISK to fund PVP, it's fine if all I wanted from my game was a PVP experience, but how long can that last really?

How many people do you think skip the making money sections of the game and jump straight to PLEX for ISK PVP? How many of them burn out after a few months? Do you think they will ever return? How long is that a sustainable business model?

brought

Wow ... this many people have fallen for the OP's trollpost. Got to give it 8/10 !

Brilliant

oh for the love of god

stupid trolls

bad idea

i get it now

leave the damn thread alone

No buddy, the credit goes out to the fact that he made the post here.