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Vandrion
Gallente The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.05.27 23:59:00 -
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I can't believe this is actually happening.. I may actually get my wife into EVE now that she can sit on the couch and accessorize!
Seriously CCP--- Please stop with the "useless" add-ons and focus on the existing problems that have been pointed out for years. Devote time and resources to fixing what is broken and what was never done right in past expansions.
In other blogs and the questions answer thread it is mentioned that new T3 ships are on the way in 2014... Why not stop developing what is in my opinion "worthless" content such as walk around stations and dress-up dollies and shift your focus back to making this game the BEST internet spaceships game.....
Just my 2 cents.........
Future prediction--within 12 months you will see mods or ships available for purchase through this system
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Vandrion
Gallente The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.05.28 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zinfandel This is true. But there is another nuance at work here. We aren't just starting this whole thing today. Rather, there are large piles of PLEX and ISK already in the game. The "pay real cash" part you are describing happened long ago.
Yes, people continue to buy more but that is generally either by people who prefer to manage their subscription payments that way or people who prefer to get in-game currency this way.
We would like to offer some items for sale to tempt some of those sitting on piles of cash to spend them.
And the concern that PLEX prices will rise, affecting everyone's ability to use PLEX for subscription time is a known, valid concern. We are actively monitoring this. I'm not allowed to talk about any of the steps we are taking there. I do not want to see PLEX prices rise.
Instead of answering a few silly questions about camera angles,converting AUR back to isk and PLEX market question(not a silly question) how about you answer the 1 recurring question that comes up in EVERY dev blog regarding new content:
WHY AREN'T YOU FIXING WHAT IS ALREADY BROKEN??????
This question has been asked for years and has been left unanswered for years. Quit adding fluff (barbies in space) and useless content (CQ) until you fix the content we already have. Then feel free to add away!
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Vandrion
Gallente The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.05.28 19:57:00 -
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Edited by: Vandrion on 28/05/2011 19:58:42
Originally by: Kno Bodees*****
You keep whining, while hopefully CCP keeps making money so that they can provide the rest of us with better content as they grow.
How about we settle for content that isn't broken or 1/2 done?????
Faction Warfare---- 1/2 done and broke Wormholes----1/2 done.... the potential here hasn't even been touched Incursions---- Do I really need to go there???? SOV Mechanics----- not enough room in this post or the next 57 to discuss this one......
Past performance is an indicator of future performance. How do you feel about 1 shoe on your space Barbie?
edit to correct grammar
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Vandrion
Gallente The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.05.29 15:40:00 -
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http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1395464&page=1
43 page threadnaught of the eve community saying NO to any MT.......... Way to listen to the playerbase CCP........
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Vandrion
Gallente The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.05.29 15:58:00 -
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Originally by: Sethose Olderon
Originally by: Vandrion http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1395464&page=1
43 page threadnaught of the eve community saying NO to any MT.......... Way to listen to the playerbase CCP........
I suspect someone of scrubbing the link, it loads a 404 error page (http://eveonline.com/null). You can still copy and paste though.
I would check it to make sure Vandrion.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1395464&page=1
try that.... guess i have some poor linking skills....
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Vandrion
Gallente The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.05.29 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: Olivia Berett What a happy coincidence right ?
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1517500&utm_source=surveyMay2011&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=surveyMay2011&sp_rid=ODE1NjkxMjkxMQS2&sp_mid=36659892
Unless CCP lest hackers use their forum and post as CCP moderators, in their domain, with their blessing, HERE IS THE THREAD about the survey.
Once you see the questions in there, you will see where they get the information they need to know what to do or not "in the interest of the majority", or at least the majority that give some time to answer their surveys through the proper channels, objectivelly and not whining about presumable future.
Ah, almost forgot: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1517500&utm_source=surveyMay2011&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=surveyMay2011&sp_rid=ODE1NjkxMjkxMQS2&sp_mid=36659892 think about that.
7 of 10 people I have played this game with for over 3 years did not receive an email about this survey...... I did and expressed my concerns about the future of this game. Shame CCP did not give them the same opportunity.
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Vandrion
Gallente The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.05.29 23:34:00 -
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Originally by: WisdomPanda Still waiting for someone to come up with a (sound) alternate business plan for funding the designers that will be constantly working on new items to help enrich our internet spaceship lives.
Step 1---- fire the designers and programmers that only 1/2 did the current features we have (those directly involved). Step 2---- hire designers and programmers to fix all the mistakes made by not implementing step 1 soon enough Step 3---- enjoy the rewards of an increased player base due to being an MMO thats does things right Step 4---- Add useless fluff if you must
To aid in Step 2 I am willing to bet that raising the subscription price by $1 a month would be a burden the players would be happy to shoulder if the end result was a game that functioned properly and where flaws are addressed in a reasonable amount of time (only took 7-8 years to get drone damage notifications in game).
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Vandrion
Gallente The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.05.30 01:44:00 -
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Originally by: Olivia Berett
Everyone is doing the same thing talking about market, about development, about management, and a miriad of themes they dont know about, using obnoxious explanations ultimately meaning only "I dont like this dont do this".
To a degree you are correct... I don't like broken Sov Warfare I don't like the broken Bounty system I don't like how broken exploration is I don't like not being able to have a large fleet fight due to lag yet we can all be in Jita at the same time with no lag I don't like the overview jump bug I don't like to see effort wasted on new FLUFF when they can't get the existing content right.........
There is no doubt in my mind that Eve is the best game on the market. I have loved playing this game for over 6 years now and I refuse to give up on it now, however CCP needs to realize that they are on the verge of alienating a sizeable portion of their player base.
Add the fluff if you must but PLEASE fix things first.
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Vandrion
Gallente The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.05.31 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon Still waiting for CCP to comment if the pricing is final
You are going to be waiting a long time..... CCP hasn't answered 99.9% of the objections and/or concerns in this thread (they ask for feedback yet pay it no attention..). The Devs have been too busy repling to Sex in Station threads along with other worthless posts...
CCP--- Please stop making feedback threads if you have no intention of addressing the concerns that are raised in them.
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Vandrion
Gallente The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.05.31 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Olivia Berett Maybe because the feedback they want here is the feedback on the test server release of testing features of incarna, not market concerns, plex price concerns, other features future concerns, weather people like vanity itens or not, and all other stuff in 99% of the posts.
Here they were wanting people to go to the test servers and report back on how that features were doing compared with what they wanted them to be.
There is another thread, aparently not even answered about all other stuff being discussed here.
There are several teams in EVE, each one responsible for one thing. You dont really expect all of them watching and answering in all threads just because people drift the subject of one thread into another.
Maybe if market concerns are risen in market threads, features already ingame discusses at the threads for them, they are more likely to answer.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=channel&channelID=3522 test server forum thread. You lose on that point.
I could fill seven pages of this thread with posts from the other forum categories relating to CQ and the MT issue.... You lose on that point too.
Originally by: CCP Guard WTB: golden jacket made entirely out of PLEX.
Several other devs from other areas have also posted here so atleast they were paying attention for an hour or so.. You lose yet again.
Honestly the rest of your forum posts are designed to distract from what peoples obvious concerns are. You fill your posts with 1/2 arguments and snipets of this and that along with google scraps.
Evidently, you think it is more worthwhile to troll partial posts without offering anything constructive yourself. Go back under your bridge troll.....
Now can we get back to the constructive posts from all sides?
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Vandrion
Gallente The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.06.07 04:04:00 -
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I qoute CCP Shadow from the PS3 blog on Dust514:
"Hi Vorlord. DUST 514 wonÆt have a monthly subscription like a number of MMOs. DUST 514 will have virtual goods sales though, that allow you to buy various types of gear used in combat."
"Hey Shoryukenll,
YouÆve asked a few things I canÆt delve too deeply into, but what I can comment on is what you said about virtual items and real money. DUST 514 will support purchases made through both in-game earned currency and real money currency."
Hmmmmm........ DUST514 is supposed to be tied into OUR Eve universe so now $$$$ for game changing items is one step closer......
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/06/06/introducing-dust-514-a-persistent-shooter-from-ccp/
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Vandrion
Gallente The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.06.07 04:12:00 -
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Qouted from the Beginnings Blog on the Dust514 site:
"DUST 514 will, as EVE Online does, have a dynamic virtual economy and market that offers the tools that will give you a competitive edge, when used skillfully. Players are able to purchase different gear to equip before deploying into battle, using InterStellar Kredits (ISK), the in-game earned currency of the EVE universe, or through real money currency, called Aurum (AUR). This provides players with flexibility and adaptability in how they approach a combat scenario. Certain items are only available through ISK transactions, while others are only available through AUR. These are then traded freely on a player-driven secondary marketplace."
So... CCP is including AUR in DUST which further ties it into Eve and explains why CCP isn't listening to the feedback from the players.
CCP also clearly states that AUR is purchased with RL money........ There should be absolutely ZERO arguments that AUR comes from anything other then RL cash money......
Monacles today. Game altering gear tomorrow!!!!!
http://www.dust514.com/en/news/?article=1980
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Vandrion
Gallente The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.06.08 14:50:00 -
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Edited by: Vandrion on 08/06/2011 14:54:43 "RPS: So, if IÆm an EVE player, how is my game going to change after DUST is released?
Torfi: Well, you have the ability to be more strategic when you are conquering planets and solar systems, in nulsec. Those are the main touchpoints. Highsec carebears need not worry. The same for lowsec. The main touchpoint upon the launch of DUST, will be in nulsec, will be in sovereignty, will be in inflicting damage and destruction and death upon your enemies, destroying their infrastructure and their means to survive, either by means or scorched earth or by stealing their installations on the surfaces of planets. There will be more going on on the surfaces of planets. WeÆve introduced mechanics allowing people to manufacture goods on the planets, but planets will play a more pivotal role in sovereignty mechanics further down the line."
Snippet of the RPS interview on Dust 514
So not only will the dust players spend RL cash to buy an advantage in their game, they will be using that RL cash purchase to buy an advantage in OUR sov warfare.
This is why a lot of us don't want MT of any form in Eve. Our concerns do not matter as CCP has already planned the future and it is RL cash transactions to buy an advantage........
edit for spelling
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Vandrion
Gallente The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.06.11 22:57:00 -
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Originally by: Kasidis
Originally by: Darth Helmat The whole conversation is pointless you can already buy game advantage for real money. This is what PLEX is.
Exactly. Besides, Aur is vanity only, and will stay that way. CCP knows if they cross that line, they are dead. As for MT in Dust, Who cares? I could kick anyones ass in an FPS no matter what gun they buy
I am copying this quote from my thread in the Assembly Hall forum section.
Adunh Slavy says it pretty well:
Posted - 2011.06.11 22:29:00 - [27] - QuoteReport
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Tired of this canard. Some say "What's wrong with MT, you can buy a PLEX and buy a character, and implants and stuff with the ISK, so why not some MT thing?"
The purchased character, the implants and stuff were earned. Someone spent the time and the effort in the game to collect those items, train that character, make that ISK etc. In-game time and effort, labor, was expended by someone in the past. They took all the risks everyone else took, played the game, flipped our cans, we flipped theirs, we shot them and they shot us.
But with this MT stuff, we're going to find a blurry line, they're already seeming to cross it in Dust and teasing to cross in Eve. So far the indications are that Dust players will use Aurum to purchase a BPO or some kind of "blueprint". They can then make and sell the items.
Is that going to be cool with everyone in Eve when you can buy the T2 shuttle that has 50m3 of cargo, but the only source of the BPO was Aurum? I mean you can still buy the shuttle with ISK, you can buy the BPO with ISK if someone resells it - so that's ok huh?
No, it's not ok. New functionality is introduced via a means that is has a source of risk, labor, time and effort that is outside the environment. CCP has already done this before with some of the boxed sets. The teaser is the Ishukone Scorp, then it'll be the Theology Council Maller, the Quafe Extra Scrumptious that gives +5% on selling your soul.
I'm sure we've all heard the old story about putting a frog in water and turning up the heat. Enjoy the simmer.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1525143
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Vandrion
Gallente The Collective
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Posted - 2011.06.14 00:16:00 -
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Here is a part of one of my posts in this thread RL $$$ Alter Our Game... Coming Soon My thread mirrors a lot of what is being said here. Pop in and post how you feel. Keep the topic in front of the CSM.
MT even vanity items are immersion breaking.
The same can be said of selling modules in the MT store. You are removing the players and their connection to the game. Selling items in the MT store only is very immersion breaking in this regard. A player wasn't involved in the following:
Training the skills to build the item Gathering the material to build the item Building the item Hauling the item to market Selling the item on the market
Absolutely no inclusion for the player.
Removing player inclusion in the process also removes the players ownership and sense of accomplishment in the results. Eve isn't about having an easy button. Eve is about reaping the rewards of your effort.
CCP has removed the Sticky from this thread so that it slowly dies... DON'T LET IT DIE!!!!!
BUMP IT BACK TO LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Vandrion
Gallente The Collective B O R G
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Posted - 2011.06.15 12:34:00 -
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Cosmoes dug this jewel up from the past:
CCP used to Parody companies that did this
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Vandrion
Gallente The Collective B O R G
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Posted - 2011.06.19 03:12:00 -
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Originally by: Maat Jeamus I have no beef with vanity items or Aurum. As long as they offer no advantage other than pure bragging rights, I see no reason why not? Acctually, will they not be like the item "Exotic dancers"; ie pretty useless? If people want to pay for them, they can go ahead and do it.
Even Vanity Item MT crosses the line CCP has stayed behind all these years. CCP has always held the stance that our subscription fees pay for the content. Having any type of $$$ for item scheme puts content (even vanity items are content of a type) behind a pay wall. To make it worse they have set the system up to cost a massive amount of RL $$ for what is essentially useless. This is a given point:
Plex comes from GTC which comes from RL $$$.
Here is how CCP gets you:
GTC costs $34.95 and gets you 2 Plex. You convert said Plex into however many Aurum it is. Congrats! You now spent $34.95 on clothing content....... That is in addition to your normal Subscription fee!
Now you could always sell one Plex for some ISK however CCP still wins because you spent $34.95 to get a Plex to buy some clothes!
Some will say that you could just buy a Plex off the market with ISK and convert it to Aurum to buy clothes. Guess what?? CCP still wins because somebody originally bought a GTC for $34.95 and converted it to Plex. All of this in addition to the normal subscription fees.
Is it really worth $34.95 for a pair of pants?
Why is content going behind a pay wall? Yes it is a pay wall as the only way to get Aurum is through Plex and Plex can only be created from a RL $$$ transaction.
Why will CCP stop there? I doubt they will. I personally believe the whole WIS model will be built around MT. You want to have a bar--- pay some Aurum. You want to have a meeting room--- pay some Aurum. You want to gamble--- pay some Aurum to buy in You want to do some back room drug deals--- pay some Aurum Want a stripper pole--- pay some Aurum
The slipery slope CCP was on has changed:
It is now a well oiled slip and slide and CCP is already half way down it!
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Vandrion
Gallente The Collective B O R G
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Posted - 2011.06.20 21:38:00 -
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This needs to stay at the top.
MT is the worst thing you have done to this game to date.......
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Vandrion
Gallente The Collective B O R G
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Posted - 2011.06.22 00:18:00 -
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ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!
How many people have been saying CCP has gone off the deep end and are just out to create a wormhole in your wallet????
Answer--- PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS SINCE THEY CREATED THE DEV BLOG!
I predict this thread will be approaching 100 pages soon!
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Vandrion
Gallente The Collective B O R G
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Posted - 2011.06.23 05:17:00 -
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CCP Item MT Leak
True or not?????????????????
If it is true you have just aborted Eve with a coat hanger!
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Vandrion
Gallente The Collective B O R G
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Posted - 2011.06.26 04:59:00 -
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Here is where the MT LIE started..........
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Vandrion
Gallente The Collective B O R G
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Posted - 2011.06.28 21:29:00 -
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The community tried to warn you!
You made the bed. Now it's time to lay in it......
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