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Calathea Sata
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.06.01 00:48:00 -
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Have you not seen what have been happening? Have you not noticed the bugs and small broken stuff are easily avoidable if CCP actually have had a proper QA? Don't you not have the impression of CCP acting like a 3-man studio when in fact they should have grown up to a much bigger and more competent company? Why is CCP refusing to grow up? Where is our money going into? Our times invested, our blood and tears, for the sake of a better EVE, why is it not showing any light? Why is the incompetence not fading away? Why, do we still expect CCP to grow more and more bugs everytime, but without making a noise about it? Why, why is it a stalemate?
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Mr Dilkington
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Posted - 2011.06.01 00:49:00 -
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If your not happy go and play on another game that nevr has bugs, oh hang on a minute, There are not any.
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Gavriel Black
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Posted - 2011.06.01 00:50:00 -
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Welcome to the world of software development.
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voiddragon
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Posted - 2011.06.01 00:51:00 -
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Tbh, the only thing ccp need to do to make me happy with eve is the ability to ignore posts and threads by certain characters. Seriously, it's like the same 10 people.
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Ripley Nostromo
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Posted - 2011.06.01 00:54:00 -
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Originally by: voiddragon Tbh, the only thing ccp need to do to make me happy with eve is the ability to ignore posts and threads by certain characters. Seriously, it's like the same 10 people.
Exactly. Whiners always whining. If they are so unhappy p1ss off and play online bingo...
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Catherine Airuta
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Posted - 2011.06.01 00:54:00 -
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OP, hai...
You are not a software developer i see. You are making statements showing ignorance in the realm of software development. Please stop.
fly safe...
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Brock Nelson
Caldari T2 Technologies Unlimited SRS.
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Posted - 2011.06.01 00:56:00 -
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Honestly, if the whining stops on the forum, then that's when I will start to worry
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Ranger 1
Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.06.01 00:56:00 -
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No testing environment will ever accurately simulate what can go wrong when code is introduced to software that has 50k people interacting with it and each other (in extremely complex and unpredictable ways) in real time.
Bugs sometimes not being caught in testing is the risk we take playing in a one-of-a-kind software environment of this size and complexity. ===== The world will not end in 2012, however there will be a serious nerf to Planetary Interaction. |
Doc Fury
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.01 00:57:00 -
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Well, to be fair, creating and testing 500MB of replacement code in a few months is a LOT, so things are bound to be wonky somewhere just due to scale. Taking a function that works, and replacing it entirely and correctly on the first go can be tricky.
However, this is also exactly what happens when the majority of your resources are focused on other projects, and you have to depend more heavily on volunteers/paid beta testers a.k.a. EVE players for your QA/QC.
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Calathea Sata
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.06.01 01:02:00 -
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Exactly, why do we the players have to beta test your game EVERYTIME a patch comes out? Or more precisely why isn't EVE out of beta? Why is everything so basic frameworky and without elaboration? EVE can be a good game but why ISN'T IT?
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Phobos Kashada
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Posted - 2011.06.01 01:03:00 -
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Originally by: Gavriel Black Welcome to the world of software development.
I clicked this thread in hopes of being able to say this. YOU'RE FIRED.
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Mr Dilkington
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Posted - 2011.06.01 01:03:00 -
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Originally by: Calathea Sata Exactly, why do we the players have to beta test your game EVERYTIME a patch comes out? Or more precisely why isn't EVE out of beta? Why is everything so basic frameworky and without elaboration? EVE can be a good game but why ISN'T IT?
May i advise a cup of warm milk, a toss, and a lie down in a dark room.
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Zifrian
Deep Space Innovations
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Posted - 2011.06.01 01:04:00 -
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You've clearly never done software development.
If you don't like it, there are other games but as someone has already said, they have bugs too. It goes back to the likelihood that you've never done large scale (or heck, small scale) software development. This is what happens. Did you know that some software is even released (put in a box and sent to stores) with KNOWN bugs in them?
For the record, I think CCP is doing a pretty amazing job.
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Calathea Sata
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.06.01 01:06:00 -
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So all these bugs are normal?
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voiddragon
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Posted - 2011.06.01 01:07:00 -
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Originally by: Calathea Sata Exactly, why do we the players have to beta test your game EVERYTIME a patch comes out? Or more precisely why isn't EVE out of beta? Why is everything so basic frameworky and without elaboration? EVE can be a good game but why ISN'T IT?
Troll.
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Mr Dilkington
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Posted - 2011.06.01 01:07:00 -
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Originally by: Calathea Sata So all these bugs are normal?
Yes, its a part of online gaming.
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raney ilara
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Posted - 2011.06.01 01:20:00 -
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Originally by: Calathea Sata Have you not seen what have been happening? Have you not noticed the bugs and small broken stuff are easily avoidable if CCP actually have had a proper QA? Don't you not have the impression of CCP acting like a 3-man studio when in fact they should have grown up to a much bigger and more competent company? Why is CCP refusing to grow up? Where is our money going into? Our times invested, our blood and tears, for the sake of a better EVE, why is it not showing any light? Why is the incompetence not fading away? Why, do we still expect CCP to grow more and more bugs everytime, but without making a noise about it? Why, why is it a stalemate?
um what bug? did you report it in the proper location?
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Jefferson H Clay
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Posted - 2011.06.01 01:24:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Dilkington
Originally by: Calathea Sata So all these bugs are normal?
Yes, its a part of online gaming.
Which does open up a discussion over if it should be part of online gaming. If it were part of single player or even multiplayer games in general people would be, quite rightly, complaining about it and possibly even demanding refunds.
But simply because it's an MMO we're supposed to accept highly buggy software releases. It's frankly not a distinction I make and nor should you. True, no programmer sets out to write bad code (I know I don't) but simply because a game is an MMO should not excuse it from being a buggy mess and the flack that generates.
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Barakkus
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Posted - 2011.06.01 01:32:00 -
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Originally by: Gavriel Black Welcome to the world of software development.
This tbh. - [SERVICE] Corp Standings For POS anchoring |
Orlacc
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Posted - 2011.06.01 01:43:00 -
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Originally by: Calathea Sata Exactly, why do we the players have to beta test your game EVERYTIME a patch comes out? Or more precisely why isn't EVE out of beta? Why is everything so basic frameworky and without elaboration? EVE can be a good game but why ISN'T IT?
Why the hell are you playing it then?!
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2011.06.01 01:46:00 -
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wait did someone just say that one player games don't have bugs?
as apast game tester at nintendo, every game I ever tested had huge bugs that just were hard to find. Just go online and yotube search for bugs in modern games.
modern warfare
sonic
mass effect 2
mario galaxy
dirt 2 software related bug
mirrors edge
even wow
Is there is no major outcry because it's it's how it has always been and how it always will be.
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Bek Thyron
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Posted - 2011.06.01 01:47:00 -
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Originally by: Calathea Sata So all these bugs are normal?
Stop trolling already you are not even good... And yes, bugs are "expected". Eve is like a giant Jenga-Tower, but at least CCP managed somehow not to crash the tower.
In b4 "OMG BOOT.INI" **** **** Please send me mail if you want to sell big piles of corpses. Must be in mint condition. (space-frozen)
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JackStraw56
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Posted - 2011.06.01 01:54:00 -
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The code I write always compiles without errors on the first try and never has any bugs at all. I don't know what CCP's problem is
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2011.06.01 01:59:00 -
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Originally by: JackStraw56 The code I write always compiles without errors on the first try and never has any bugs at all. I don't know what CCP's problem is
move out of your moms basement and go make a real piece of software with 40 other people all writting code.
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Jefferson H Clay
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Posted - 2011.06.01 02:02:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon wait did someone just say that one player games don't have bugs?
No. I actually said that there is generally more acceptance in an MMO being buggy (be it show stoppers or minor niggles) than there is a single player game and that this should not be the case.
I did not, at any point, state that single player games or indeed regular multiplayer games are bug free. Nor do I feel the language I used could be construde that way.
So... U JELLY?
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Mister Rocknrolla
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Posted - 2011.06.01 02:05:00 -
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I used to be able to play games from beginning to end without hitting a bug. Back when games were on cartridges and there was no method to update/patch. Not saying there weren't bugs, but I never saw them.
Sure, they're more complex these days, and they have to program to myriad platforms but I believe that a lot (most) game companies subscribe to the "ship-then-patch" philosophy. Why? Because they can.
The first corollary to "ship-then-patch" is "What are they going to do? Play a different game?"
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Mister Rocknrolla
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Posted - 2011.06.01 02:09:00 -
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Originally by: Bek Thyron
Originally by: Calathea Sata So all these bugs are normal?
Stop trolling already you are not even good... And yes, bugs are "expected". Eve is like a giant Jenga-Tower, but at least CCP managed somehow not to crash the tower.
In b4 "OMG BOOT.INI"
I like these responses. So CCP created some incredibly awful bug a few years ago, and instead of being a badge of shame, it's a badge of honor. Not only that, as long as they don't destroy your OS, regardless the severity of any bug they introduce, they (and many players) can just say "Hey, at least it's not as bad as boot.ini"
Newthink at it's best.
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Caren Patriach
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Posted - 2011.06.01 02:15:00 -
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Edited by: Caren Patriach on 01/06/2011 02:16:02 the picture is broken and i see my self as a hashasin huehehhehe
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Jefferson H Clay
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Posted - 2011.06.01 02:22:00 -
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Originally by: Mister Rocknrolla players) can just say "Hey, at least it's not as bad as boot.ini"
Newthink at it's best.
EVE came out after the rise of NT and its siblings (3.51, NT4, 2K, XP, etc) 3 of those listed I know have BOOT.INI. Designing a game which has a file, named exactly the same as a core OS file of a popular OS your game is likley to encounter is... dumb. "Get out and don't bother asking for a refferance" grade dumb. Patching that file and not having insane levels of sanity checking surrounding it, to make absolutley sure you don't have a space between C:\ and the location of your file... is a similar grade of dumb.
It's also a lesson in thou shall not run as Administrator and anything trivial (like a game) that requires such can bugger off and be ignored as a waste of disk space.
It's a badge of shame and CCP will be wearing it for a good long time as far as I'm concerned.
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Ranger 1
Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.06.01 02:33:00 -
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Originally by: Jefferson H Clay
Originally by: Mister Rocknrolla players) can just say "Hey, at least it's not as bad as boot.ini"
Newthink at it's best.
EVE came out after the rise of NT and its siblings (3.51, NT4, 2K, XP, etc) 3 of those listed I know have BOOT.INI. Designing a game which has a file, named exactly the same as a core OS file of a popular OS your game is likley to encounter is... dumb. "Get out and don't bother asking for a refferance" grade dumb. Patching that file and not having insane levels of sanity checking surrounding it, to make absolutley sure you don't have a space between C:\ and the location of your file... is a similar grade of dumb.
It's also a lesson in thou shall not run as Administrator and anything trivial (like a game) that requires such can bugger off and be ignored as a waste of disk space.
It's a badge of shame and CCP will be wearing it for a good long time as far as I'm concerned.
It is, however they are also allowed to poke fun at themselves about it. To believe they view it as a badge of honor is Trollthink at its best. ===== The world will not end in 2012, however there will be a serious nerf to Planetary Interaction. |
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