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Deadloch Amarr One Wounded Wing	Posted - 2011.06.02 18:34:00 - [151] All's fair in love and war... Since obviously everyone on here loves EVE and we fight wars, this applies two fold. Realistically we know the NC was vulnerable... DRF figured they could do a massive attack themselves and knock the NC off... When they couldn't complete it, PL was hired. Between them, knocking RAGE off with so much ease, was scary. Marching through Geminate, Vale and then on the way to Tribute showed all the other sharks (Other alliances) that NC was a great juicy target. NC killed itself. Fat, Lazy and non committal to the game, the Leadership enjoyed all sorts of perks without having to fight. The name NC acting like a HUGE DOG with a booming bark. Then when push came to shove, the leadership wallets so full of ISK, they decided it's better off to let DRF chew on the outer alliances and work their way in. Let them die and they might be satiated with that. Poor planning, Unimaginative Tactics, Greed killed the NC. Wouldn't have mattered if it was DRF, TEST, PL or another alliance/Coalition that decided... Enough is enough. NC... the bell tolls for you. Blame yourselves because BFF means Best Forgotten Friend. Also, DRF is going to fall within a year. As with all empires in RL/EVE History... They do not last. A new Era has begun!!
Shadowschild	Posted - 2011.06.02 19:41:00 - [152] As an NC grunt I can tell you that this experience was a bitter, somewhat humbling one. I think it's much worse for the bigger alliances like MM. I've been on the front lines, helping to coordinate attacks on supercaps, relaying intel etc. Fact is, they just had an overwhelming force & too many spies. Any action we take is relayed over instantly to them, they seemed to always be 1 step ahead. I think at one point they were even streaming voice coms over justintv. Anyways, yes it sucks we had to let go of a rather nice sov territory (though much less so since the anom nerf). I can't comment on this RMT stuff, but I've read quite a few posts about this, some even indicating real life political pressure from russian government bailout loans. I never saw any bots around our systems, but walk a bit into gemenite & it was pretty obvious there. I guess its just gonna be a huge botting empire now. As it stands the NC has not crumbled & failscading, I don't understand where people are getting that assumption, I guess its just them connecting the dots in their mind. We were pushed out, some folks wont like the change & may leave, others will stay. Either way, its not like the NC playerbase is suddenly going to dissapear overnight. When I first started playing the game, I was in one of the renter corps foundation alliance had at the time, they eventually disbanded but the players concolidated into new alliances & eventually, many made their way to the NC. It will be interesting to see what the future holds for us. Hopefully Venal will not be a permanent home :/
Dior Rellik	Posted - 2011.06.02 19:51:00 - [153] dumb idiots are dumb idoits. This isn't a legitimate "Destroy the NC and reap the glory" war. This is a purely corrupt RMT Empire war. PL NC.diks etc etc were all paid to contribute with dirty isk for the sole purpose of taking monumental amounts of profitable space for RMT botting while NC.**s and PL claim there leetness. The main RMT alliances stay to rear of the war while at the same time funding it to make it look like a legitimate removal of NC while in the background they claim sov and install bots and act the fckin innocent party. The RL money revenue was capped with the ** drone space so its obvious what the value of northern regions has to these scum bags isk selling companines compaired to drone regions. Just watch what happens if they take over the north and legitmate eve players don't unite against this game killing evil. Eve has turned from massive lol wars for the luls to another "korean bot infested RMT controlled" game just like many many many mmo's out there. Sad truth is eve will now become absoultely dependant on RMT bot subs. Unless of course people are willing to unite for one cause and destroy them. PL and the other fools sold them selves to this when they accepted the contracts so its obvious those who disagree with the above are agents of the RMT empire. True Story Bro Ö
Dead Geisha	Posted - 2011.06.02 20:02:00 - [154] reporting NC for using whinebots.
Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2011.06.02 20:07:00 - [155] Originally by: Dior Rellik taking monumental amounts of profitable space for RMT botting I see you are talking from experience. ~~~
Movement Runner	Posted - 2011.06.02 20:07:00 - [156] Originally by: Dior Rellik dumb idiots are dumb idoits. This isn't a legitimate "Destroy the NC and reap the glory" war. This is a purely corrupt RMT Empire war. PL NC.diks etc etc were all paid to contribute with dirty isk for the sole purpose of taking monumental amounts of profitable space for RMT botting while NC.**s and PL claim there leetness. The main RMT alliances stay to rear of the war while at the same time funding it to make it look like a legitimate removal of NC while in the background they claim sov and install bots and act the fckin innocent party. The RL money revenue was capped with the ** drone space so its obvious what the value of northern regions has to these scum bags isk selling companines compaired to drone regions. Just watch what happens if they take over the north and legitmate eve players don't unite against this game killing evil. Eve has turned from massive lol wars for the luls to another "korean bot infested RMT controlled" game just like many many many mmo's out there. Sad truth is eve will now become absoultely dependant on RMT bot subs. Unless of course people are willing to unite for one cause and destroy them. PL and the other fools sold them selves to this when they accepted the contracts so its obvious those who disagree with the above are agents of the RMT empire. True Story Bro Ö There are 2 major flaws with your post. The first is that PL & etc are puppets or pawns. The fact is, they got alot of isk & got to do what they do best, which is pvp. I would have loved to be a part of an opportunity to fleece a large coalition out of null all the while having access to a huge pool of donor isk. Even better they dont have to concern themselves with sov mechanics. They even admitted to never becoming slaves to the Russians, but the opportunity for fun was there & it probably wont come again for a little while. You can't blame them. The other thing wrong with your post is that I think only 10 or 15% of the player base is in null sec. So the statement that eve will depend on rmt bot subs is a bit farfetched... Other then that, yes I agree with you, things are headed in a weird direction.
Dior Rellik	Posted - 2011.06.02 20:10:00 - [157] Originally by: Lady Spank Originally by: Dior Rellik taking monumental amounts of profitable space for RMT botting I see you are talking from experience. wind ur neck in will you Mr RMT agent, CCP knows damn well Im 100% legit, of course the same cant be said for you.
Leeroy McJenkins GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.06.02 20:15:00 - [158] Originally by: Dior Rellik Originally by: Lady Spank Originally by: Dior Rellik taking monumental amounts of profitable space for RMT botting I see you are talking from experience. wind ur neck in will you Mr RMT agent, CCP knows damn well Im 100% legit, of course the same cant be said for you. Oh snap, he just declared srs bns on Spank. Originally by: Leeroy McJenkins There is no real pvp in EVE, there is only winning or losing and then feeling :smug: about winning or sore about losing. There is nothing wrong with this arrangement.
Dior Rellik	Posted - 2011.06.02 20:26:00 - [159] Originally by: Movement Runner Originally by: Dior Rellik dumb idiots are dumb idoits. This isn't a legitimate "Destroy the NC and reap the glory" war. This is a purely corrupt RMT Empire war. PL NC.diks etc etc were all paid to contribute with dirty isk for the sole purpose of taking monumental amounts of profitable space for RMT botting while NC.**s and PL claim there leetness. The main RMT alliances stay to rear of the war while at the same time funding it to make it look like a legitimate removal of NC while in the background they claim sov and install bots and act the fckin innocent party. The RL money revenue was capped with the ** drone space so its obvious what the value of northern regions has to these scum bags isk selling companines compaired to drone regions. Just watch what happens if they take over the north and legitmate eve players don't unite against this game killing evil. Eve has turned from massive lol wars for the luls to another "korean bot infested RMT controlled" game just like many many many mmo's out there. Sad truth is eve will now become absoultely dependant on RMT bot subs. Unless of course people are willing to unite for one cause and destroy them. PL and the other fools sold them selves to this when they accepted the contracts so its obvious those who disagree with the above are agents of the RMT empire. True Story Bro Ö There are 2 major flaws with your post. The first is that PL & etc are puppets or pawns. The fact is, they got alot of isk & got to do what they do best, which is pvp. I would have loved to be a part of an opportunity to fleece a large coalition out of null all the while having access to a huge pool of donor isk. Even better they dont have to concern themselves with sov mechanics. They even admitted to never becoming slaves to the Russians, but the opportunity for fun was there & it probably wont come again for a little while. You can't blame them. The other thing wrong with your post is that I think only 10 or 15% of the player base is in null sec. So the statement that eve will depend on rmt bot subs is a bit farfetched... Other then that, yes I agree with you, things are headed in a weird direction. Honestly, this is the one way ticket that alot of mmo's find themselves in. Can you please provide me with statistical proof that most of the legit non-botting eve poplulation lives in high sec ? It is true that PL have enormous skill and luv pvp but this time they sold them selves as slaves to the RMT Empire, what part of this don't you understand ? if RMT Empire alliances hadnt paid them stupendenous amounnts of isk sourced from ilegitimate game play, do you really think they would be a part of this war ? NC fought hard for this space for fun and ingame prosperity for its members and probably individuals and had nothing to do with RMT. Blueing and blobbing only maintained this and nothing more, where as the current situation is 100% RMT based.
Cyrus Doul E0 Corp	Posted - 2011.06.02 20:28:00 - [160] Edited by: Cyrus Doul on 02/06/2011 20:32:39 Originally by: IsoMetricanTaliac 2 3). We have blobs of SuperCarriers basically killing just about everything that can be killed in only a matter of minutes, just how is that supposed to be countered? (Once again the same people as above are building these things at an unbelievable rate & selling them as well as building their own numbers up. How is ANYONE ABLE to build so many ships that are worth so much without there being some major problems?) Once again, how is this going to be addressed? To answer the part about building them and to shine light on how simple it actually is. (for a titan just triple everything about it cost wise, the methodology still stands) A couple of months ago a Nyx cost about 10 bil to build buying all the minerals in jita and could sell for 15-17, the Nyx BPO cost 18 and you need 24 component bpos to build the parts directly off the bpos. Payoff would be about Nine supercarriers sold and out the door with a 5 billion profit. You can buy the minerals in high sec and build them into 425mm railguns, In doing so you can fit the entire supercarrier worth of mins into 2 or 3 jumpfreighters and bring them home to refine with 0 tax Speaking of tax, that adds to the profit margin. Any refining that alliance members and friends do could easily be spooled into the amount of mins it takes to build the thing. Since the person getting the tax minerals is not the one doing the mining there is no opportunity cost. Another thing that the alliance officer that is in charge of building these things will do is put a lower then jita buy order in. If you live in say Tenal, which is a good 20 0.0 jumps and have a few billion in mins but no way to move them, that jita -10% sell now option looks pretty tasty. If someone else using the station puts a better buy order out you just one isk them. You were planning to buy the mins in jita anyways so you can go all the way up to = Jita pricing and still take no losses. So to answer you, it takes an initial 48 billion (one titan) investment in prints, then 1 control tower, 4 capital construction pilots. and 20 billion to start the chain of constantly having one nyx in build while the parts for the others are in the cooker. you'll pay off the 48 bil print investment in 7 months assuming you are not using the options available in the two paragraphs above and manage to sell each nyx the moment it comes out for 15 billion.
Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2011.06.02 20:29:00 - [161] Originally by: Leeroy McJenkins Originally by: Dior Rellik Originally by: Lady Spank Originally by: Dior Rellik taking monumental amounts of profitable space for RMT botting I see you are talking from experience. wind ur neck in will you Mr RMT agent, CCP knows damn well Im 100% legit, of course the same cant be said for you. Oh snap, he just declared srs bns on Spank. My RMT backbone Wardec incoming. ~~~
Molly Molotov	Posted - 2011.06.02 20:50:00 - [162] Dior Rellik is just angry because he's getting kicked out of college because the Russians stole his RMT tuition. That propaganda **** isn't going to work. Everyone knows the NC is heavily involved in RMT just as much if not more so than the Russians. Sure, maybe they spend it on Vodka while you use it on education , different things, sure. But it's all the same
Dior Rellik	Posted - 2011.06.02 21:06:00 - [163] lol try and turn it on us... thats what the guilty do. 100% legit here. And while im at it, flying though Nc space you see people in local, wave and get one back. In DRF they no wave.... they warp their bots and cloak and keep schtum!
Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2011.06.02 21:11:00 - [164] Originally by: Dior Rellik lol try and turn it on us... thats what the guilty do. 100% legit here. And while im at it, flying though Nc space you see people in local, wave and get one back. In DRF they no wave.... they warp their bots and cloak and keep schtum! 1. You are the one accusing everyone of being RMTers, even me which is laughable. 2. Blues waving at blues when no one is in local is understandable. Expecting hostiles or neuts to communicate with you in local is horribly naive. No wonder you lost, you are a bunch of carebears with greedy leadership. I mean you were. Wardec vote is in by the way. Tell me who your main is so I can do it properly thanks. ~~~
Maverick2011 Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.02 21:16:00 - [165] Edited by: Maverick2011 on 02/06/2011 21:16:33 We all know that loads players are botting due to CCP ppor management on Mining and incentive to multiple accounts. I DARE to find a single player with 5+ accounts that controls them all without any third party program aid bot. And you will find most of these players in larger alliances. Thats not EVE exclusive. Its part of every single MMORPG that gives multiple account players benefits over others. Yea i belive there are people who plays 2-3 accounts on his own without any aid, but if the person has money or time to invest so much into a game, you really think hes going to play by the rules and make his life harder? Lets stop believing in fairy tales and face the truth.
Android Mindslave Gallente Mindworks	Posted - 2011.06.02 21:19:00 - [166] ASCN was invincible BoB was invincible NC was invincible The people going "DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!" sound just like people who hop on the forums during their first EVE patch. Power Bloc XYZ died, big deal. We've been here before, and we'll be here again.
Spurty Caldari V0LTA VOLTA Corp	Posted - 2011.06.02 21:22:00 - [167] I blame NC leadership for this mess. NC people you were spun a lot of lies for a long ass time. Admit you drank the cool aid and start your purge if being a drone. Now of the pilots in your Corp that you like, form a new Corp and make some friends. Enjoy eve again. There's an awful lot you can do when you aren't playing it as a second job for someone who doesn't even know your name Fizzt!
III ZiggyBang Amarr	Posted - 2011.06.02 22:39:00 - [168] those evil commie bastards - they may have lost the cold war but they are winning in EvE!
The Illustrious Juden	Posted - 2011.06.02 23:02:00 - [169] Originally by: Spurty cool aid It's Kool-aid
Ed Sullivan	Posted - 2011.06.02 23:55:00 - [170] CCP has allowed RMT to go on for a long time, at least I first became aware of it in the days of BoB. It, along with bots has always been a big problem in Eve. Ever notice corp isk just disappearing every so often? I have. And later I found out where it was going - it was being sold for rl money. That was why people were complaining about BoB having the 10/10's. That's why people are complaining now. Maybe they can't. Maybe they don't want to. But it would just be a better game if they would ban these people (whoever they may be) into oblivion.
Molly Molotov	Posted - 2011.06.03 00:16:00 - [171] Edited by: Molly Molotov on 03/06/2011 00:20:49 .
Paloka	Posted - 2011.06.03 00:22:00 - [172] That's the problem. A lot of the corruption goes all the way up. From t20 incident to RMTers hosting alliance tournaments and displaying their kinship with devs. Here's a nice article on it EVEs-Devs-and-the-Friends-They-Keep They won't ban them because in many cases they're just as involved in the corruption. At the very least they've established long term real life bonds apparently with the people destroying the game for the rest of us
Zelda Wei Caldari New Horizon Trade Exchange	Posted - 2011.06.03 00:26:00 - [173] Originally by: Molly Molotov Dior Rellik is just angry because he's getting kicked out of college because the Russians stole his RMT tuition. That propaganda **** isn't going to work. Everyone knows the NC is heavily involved in RMT just as much if not more so than the Russians. Sure, maybe they spend it on Vodka while you use it on education , different things, sure. But it's all the same DRF Propaganda commissars are out in force.
Malak Alraheem	Posted - 2011.06.03 00:31:00 - [174] I think it is time to learn Russian so we can infiltrate the 'bad guys'. Actually, this all reminds me of something I read in the 80's. When a Moscow taxi driver was asked what he thought of the future of the USSR, he simply replied, "Well, the optimists are learning English, the pessimists are learning Chinese, and the realists are learning marksmanship."
Dete Data	Posted - 2011.06.03 00:31:00 - [175] Your playing against people who real life job is eve... no regular player can compete with that. This game is dead we just dont know it yet. Unless ofc CCP does something about RTM... Promise if that goes away so does all the russians in null..
Panda Name Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2011.06.03 02:18:00 - [176] yeah this is america! we can't let those ruskies take over 0.0!! the domino effect is real!
Shihari Otichoda	Posted - 2011.06.03 02:37:00 - [177] This will be dealt with. WOLVERINES!
Patrik Swayzee Red.Dawn	Posted - 2011.06.03 02:39:00 - [178] Originally by: Shihari Otichoda This will be dealt with. WOLVERINES! That's my line.
Ded Moroz Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.03 03:05:00 - [179] interesting. last i've played about 4-5 years ago I remember the russians were squeezed into 1 or so region and BoB (I was member of Reikoku at the time) were taking over 0.0. I remember seeing similar posts at the time. Now I come back to a completely different game, and I see the "omg the sky is falling" posts about russians taking over the world. This game is just one big cycle.
Sandwich PvP Furian Necromongers	Posted - 2011.06.03 03:20:00 - [180] Originally by: Ded Moroz interesting. last i've played about 4-5 years ago I remember the russians were squeezed into 1 or so region and BoB (I was member of Reikoku at the time) were taking over 0.0. I remember seeing similar posts at the time. Now I come back to a completely different game, and I see the "omg the sky is falling" posts about russians taking over the world. This game is just one big cycle. Well this is really just the cascade of tears by NC Alts, trying to prove they are righteous, and the enemy is "Bad RMT People". The funnniest part is they keep claiming its the Russians, when many of the corps and alliances involved are US or Euro. Sort by what?

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