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Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2011.06.14 16:57:00 - [1] If all these 'amazing' re-skinned ships which are only creatable via RMT are to have varying names on the overview then it is a direct PVP tactic to use as many different ones as possible to obfuscate what should be clear and simple ship-type information on the overview of their enemies. Vanity items should not have an affect on PVP.
Khamal Jolstien Caldari Sick Tight BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2011.06.14 16:59:00 - [2] I honestly never thought of that. A very valid point that needs to be addressed.
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.14 16:59:00 - [3] Get your prize gank collection here.... New HULKAGEDDON TARGETS, PAINTED SHIPS. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2011.06.14 17:00:00 - [4] I'm not sure anybody will be confused by the listings of "Scorpion (Standard)", "Scorpion PukeGreen", "Scorpion SnowYellow", "Scorpion DildoMagenta"...
Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2011.06.14 23:17:00 - [5] Originally by: Akita T I'm not sure anybody will be confused by the listings of "Scorpion (Standard)", "Scorpion PukeGreen", "Scorpion SnowYellow", "Scorpion DildoMagenta"... And you trust CCP to do it in this fashion? ~~~
Manda Rin Minmatar Sexy Thoughts	Posted - 2011.06.15 00:54:00 - [6] Originally by: Lady Spank Originally by: Akita T I'm not sure anybody will be confused by the listings of "Scorpion (Standard)", "Scorpion PukeGreen", "Scorpion SnowYellow", "Scorpion DildoMagenta"... And you trust CCP to do it in this fashion? I can't imagine CCP getting this right. The ships called an "Ishukone..." I would imagine it appearing in the overview as such.
VKhaun Vex	Posted - 2011.06.15 01:59:00 - [7] Edited by: VKhaun Vex on 15/06/2011 02:00:36 Makes sense, and it got knocked off the first page by the spam. +1 bump P.S. Next time a CoD game comes out I'll buy $50 of hello kitty skins for my ships instead of wasting it on that and finding out I still die instantly from **** falling out of the sky, flying over walls, and rolling at me from underneath things while I try to play a 'shooter'.
Abdiel Kavash Caldari Paladin Order Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:01:00 - [8] Edited by: Abdiel Kavash on 15/06/2011 02:01:31 I support this change as it will be basically paying $$$ to put a beacon screaming "PRIMARY ME! PRIMARY ME!" across the entire grid on your ship. --- Originally by: Sporked EVE IS DYING RUN TO THE HILLS! WE MIGHT HAVE TO ENGAGE WITH OTHER PEOPLE IN THIS MMO! THEY MIGHT SHOOT AT US WHILE WE ARE BUSY HOLDING HANDS AND FROLICKING! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Adunh Slavy	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:03:00 - [9] Edited by: Adunh Slavy on 15/06/2011 02:05:45 WTB: Any Vanity ship from a corporation named "Notthe" Edit: If we assume this screen cap is final, the format appears to be "type - vanity" http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1527783&page=4#112 The Real Space Initiative - V7
Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:16:00 - [10] Edited by: Lady Spank on 15/06/2011 02:17:56 Originally by: Adunh Slavy Edited by: Adunh Slavy on 15/06/2011 02:05:45 WTB: Any Vanity ship from a corporation named "Notthe" Edit: If we assume this screen cap is final, the format appears to be "type - vanity" http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1527783&page=4#112 Considering that's yet another T'Amber image spam I'm going to assume it's yet another dumb mockup but fingers crossed anyway. ~~~
Jeff Severasse	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:31:00 - [11] Originally by: Miilla The more I think about seeing one of these flying around, the harder I laugh...
Copine Callmeknau Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams The KWFL Republic	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:35:00 - [12] Originally by: Lady Spank Edited by: Lady Spank on 15/06/2011 02:05:07 If all these 'amazing' re-skinned ships which are only creatable via RMT are to have varying names on the overview then it is a direct PVP tactic to use as many different ones as possible to obfuscate what should be clear and simple ship-type information on the overview of their enemies. Vanity items should not have an effect on PVP. edit spelling WORST WHINE EVAR! srsly gtfo! -> ...oh wait Stunning EVE Online Theme for PS3
Sandwich PvP Furian Necromongers	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:36:00 - [13] Originally by: Abdiel Kavash Edited by: Abdiel Kavash on 15/06/2011 02:01:31 I support this change as it will be basically paying $$$ to put a beacon screaming "PRIMARY ME! PRIMARY ME!" across the entire grid on your ship. Some people like to be primary.... Not me, but some people.... Sort by what?
Lucilla Giulia	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:37:00 - [14] Originally by: Miilla Get your prize gank collection here.... New HULKAGEDDON TARGETS, PAINTED SHIPS. yarr time to make more player run events, next one? "hunt da painted sheeps!no rules no time limits...not untill they disappear from game!"
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:43:00 - [15] Originally by: Lady Spank Originally by: Akita T I'm not sure anybody will be confused by the listings of "Scorpion (Standard)", "Scorpion PukeGreen", "Scorpion SnowYellow", "Scorpion DildoMagenta"... And you trust CCP to do it in this fashion? Honestly ? Hmm... I can't say I do Especially when a much more convenient alternative (have "paint slots" on regular ships) was already ignored (or maybe not even thought of). No idea who the bloody hell makes the "vision" type decisions (IF anybody makes them, as opposed to it being a "design by committee") nor do I know how hard it would be to actually implement some of this questionable stuff or alternatives, but one would think that they wouldn't really have to reinvent the wheel each time - wasn't THAT the whole point of the "CARBON tech" to begin with ?!? _ Make ISK\|\|Build\|\|React\|\|1k papercuts
Lucilla Giulia	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:47:00 - [16] get over it , CCP has already decided...no point in whining/complain two options: 1- do not use their store EVER 2- make life of the ones using it hell,using legit game mechanics, like the new "hulkageddon" proposed above there's actually a 3rd option, quit the game, maybe to be taken into consideration as last resort
Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:49:00 - [17] I read, and somewhat approve of the thoughts in that thread, given a little polish perhaps. It's a shame this had to take a threadnaught to get them to pay attention. CCP are making more and more atrocious decisions as time goes on and listening less to the player-base. I won't say they are listening to their wallets more but it's clear they are losing touch with the true state of the game and how it is played. ~~~
Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:51:00 - [18] Originally by: Lucilla Giulia get over it , CCP has already decided...no point in whining/complain two options: 1- do not use their store EVER 2- make life of the ones using it hell,using legit game mechanics, like the new "hulkageddon" proposed above there's actually a 3rd option, quit the game, maybe to be taken into consideration as last resort This is a legitimate concern that has an effect on anyone involved in PVP. It is not a whine and there bloody well is a reason to complain. Maybe you like to just put up with being inconvenienced but since this goes way beyond your personal interests I suggest you either contribute to the discussion or GTFO. ~~~
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:53:00 - [19] apart from the fact that I think MT's should be avoided at all costs... These new ships should only have different names in show info... In the overview their should be nothing but (in this case) scorpion. This is in CCP's best interest as far more people will pay for paint jobs if its harder to spot and doesn't mean being instant primaried... you know other than being in a scorpion... Also Corp/Alliance decals should be isk items only, no AUR involved. you should only have to pay AUR for fancy full skin paint jobs. (and not even then but hey ho) __________________________________________________ Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function
Lucilla Giulia	Posted - 2011.06.15 02:59:00 - [20] i actually somehow contributed to the discussion what should i say? i HATE any form of MT, expecially in a game that isn't f2p, yeh even payin to get tattoos/paintjobs, figures ships/mods but i'm not so naive to think that us whining (i did it myself in the other thread tbh)on the forums will solve the problem, this is THE way EVE is goin. You guys posted a lot of great ideas, and not just today, but has anything changed? Why we'll never see the paintjobs as normal manufacturable items?'cause the reason CCP is inserting them is to make the players pay for it.. so the matter is,are we sure we can convince a company like CCP to rethink their whole future planning on MT? not as long as they don't find out it turned out to be worse than expected imo
Vandrion Gallente The Collective B O R G	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:06:00 - [21] Originally by: Lady Spank Edited by: Lady Spank on 15/06/2011 02:05:07 If all these 'amazing' re-skinned ships which are only creatable via RMT are to have varying names on the overview then it is a direct PVP tactic to use as many different ones as possible to obfuscate what should be clear and simple ship-type information on the overview of their enemies. Vanity items should not have an effect on PVP. edit spelling Stop doing this..... I have to agree with you again. You make an excellent point Lady Spank. The problem is it is going to be more then vanity items. The One Universe/One War concept with Dust is going to bust the flood gates open for cash for advantage in Eve. CCP is going to make their money in Dust through the money store and the is going to have DUST have an impact on the Sov Mechanics in Eve... READ ME
Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:09:00 - [22] Edited by: Lady Spank on 15/06/2011 03:09:55 Originally by: Lucilla Giulia i actually somehow contributed to the discussion what should i say? i HATE any form of MT, expecially in a game that isn't f2p, yeh even payin to get tattoos/paintjobs, figures ships/mods but i'm not so naive to think that us whining (i did it myself in the other thread tbh)on the forums will solve the problem, this is THE way EVE is goin. You guys posted a lot of great ideas, and not just today, but has anything changed? Why we'll never see the paintjobs as normal manufacturable items?'cause the reason CCP is inserting them is to make the players pay for it.. so the matter is,are we sure we can convince a company like CCP to rethink their whole future planning on MT? not as long as they don't find out it turned out to be worse than expected imo This thread isn't about changing their direction regarding RMT. It is purely requesting that it does not have the effect in combat of complicating comms and intel reporting or just generally cluttering up the overview. Since CCP stated this Aurum store purchases would NOT have give people an edge it is quite simple for them to ensure it does not lead to a messy overview. This was already stated in the opening post but it seems I need to emphasise this is what we are talking about here. ~~~
Lucilla Giulia	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:15:00 - [23] Originally by: Lady Spank Edited by: Lady Spank on 15/06/2011 03:09:55 This thread isn't about changing their direction regarding RMT. It is purely requesting that it does not have the effect in combat of complicating comms and intel reporting or just generally cluttering up the overview. Since CCP stated this Aurum store purchases would NOT have give people an edge it is quite simple for them to ensure it does not lead to a messy overview. This was already stated in the opening post but it seems I need to emphasise this is what we are talking about here. ooook, sorry then i'll stick to this thread's rules CCP please avoid making MT items actually influence the game mechanics, that's my pov (limited by request, but with no sarcasm)
Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:26:00 - [24] Originally by: Lucilla Giulia Originally by: Lady Spank Edited by: Lady Spank on 15/06/2011 03:09:55 This thread isn't about changing their direction regarding RMT. It is purely requesting that it does not have the effect in combat of complicating comms and intel reporting or just generally cluttering up the overview. Since CCP stated this Aurum store purchases would NOT have give people an edge it is quite simple for them to ensure it does not lead to a messy overview. This was already stated in the opening post but it seems I need to emphasise this is what we are talking about here. ooook, sorry then i'll stick to this thread's rules CCP please avoid making MT items actually influence the game mechanics, that's my pov (limited by request, but with no sarcasm) No problem Don't forget to pay a visit to the 20+ page discussion about the main issues at stake with the direct RMT stuff. ~~~
Judicator Saturnius Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:28:00 - [25] Originally by: Akita T "Scorpion DildoMagenta"... BRILLIANT! vOv
Corina's Bodyguard	Posted - 2011.06.15 03:30:00 - [26] Originally by: Miilla That would scare the armor off of me!!!
P42ALPHA Gallente DeadOn.	Posted - 2011.06.15 04:31:00 - [27] LAWL, like it is hard to learn the name of a few more ships. Also think about it, any fleet would target a scorp first, so the person flying the new skinned/named version will be priority just for the lulz. And any average 0.0 pilot would not fly that crap to start with, the high sec pvstation'ers will have to deal with it. Trollallalalalaala harder, 2/10
Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2011.06.15 04:46:00 - [28] Originally by: P42ALPHA Trollallalalalaala harder, 2/10 Thanks for invalidating your dumb 'contribution' ~~~
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar The Python Cartel. The Defenders of Pen Island	Posted - 2011.06.15 05:19:00 - [29] wtb pink zealot that comes up on overview as Surfin's Plunderbunny's Omen
Adunh Slavy	Posted - 2011.06.15 05:31:00 - [30] Originally by: Lady Spank Edited by: Lady Spank on 15/06/2011 02:17:56 Originally by: Adunh Slavy Edited by: Adunh Slavy on 15/06/2011 02:05:45 WTB: Any Vanity ship from a corporation named "Notthe" Edit: If we assume this screen cap is final, the format appears to be "type - vanity" http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1527783&page=4#112 Considering that's yet another T'Amber image spam I'm going to assume it's yet another dumb mockup but fingers crossed anyway. The Real Space Initiative - V7

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