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Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators Chubby Chuppers Chubba Chups	Posted - 2011.06.18 22:21:00 - [1] Edited by: Le Skunk on 18/06/2011 22:24:33 More interesting "takes" on reality from ccp as the publicity machine winds up to polish the turd that is incarna Originally by: CCP Zulu But we have a bit of a unique situation to deal with that not all game developers have to take into account. People love EVE so much that they donæt just want to play one EVE, they want to play two EVEs at once...and sometimes even more! Nobody "wants" to multibox. People multibox as a way of dealing with game mechanics; whether that be not being able to see the market prices in another region, need a scout to warn you when targets are coming to your camp, need a scout so you can AVOID that camp in your hauler, or needed someone to drop a cyno so you can move your capital around. Anyone whos used to multiboxing will be able to empathise with the enjoyment that comes in those few times where you can maximise your main to fullscreen and just run a single account in a pvp encounter. Other developers ban, make difficult or provide no benefit in multiboxing. Eve activly encourages this "unique situation" both indirectly via game mechanics, and directly through offers sugh as "the power of two" SKUNK (o)
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.18 22:24:00 - [2] Originally by: Le Skunk Edited by: Le Skunk on 18/06/2011 22:21:54 More interesting "takes" on reality from ccp as the publicity machine winds up to polish the turd that is incarna Originally by: CCP Zulu But we have a bit of a unique situation to deal with that not all game developers have to take into account. People love EVE so much that they donæt just want to play one EVE, they want to play two EVEs at once...and sometimes even more! Nobody "wants" to multibox. People multibox as a way of dealing with game mechanics; whether that be not being able to see the market prices in another region, need a scout to warn you when targets are coming to your camp, need a scout so you can AVOID that camp in your hauler, or needed someone to drop a cyno so you can move your capital around. Anyone whos used to multiboxing will be able to empathise with the enjoyment that comes in those few times where you can maximise your main to fullscreen and just run a single account in a pvp encounter. Other developers ban or make difficult multipboxing. Eve activly encourages this "unique situation" both indirectly via game mechanics, and directly through offers sugh as "the power of two" SKUNK This is why they think people have money to burn, that extra cash they want. Because idiots subscribe 2 or sometimes 7 accounts! If everybody only had one account, CCP wouldn't think we had all that surplus cash to scam out of us.
N'tek alar Minmatar	Posted - 2011.06.18 22:32:00 - [3] Originally by: Miilla Originally by: Le Skunk Edited by: Le Skunk on 18/06/2011 22:21:54 More interesting "takes" on reality from ccp as the publicity machine winds up to polish the turd that is incarna Originally by: CCP Zulu But we have a bit of a unique situation to deal with that not all game developers have to take into account. People love EVE so much that they donæt just want to play one EVE, they want to play two EVEs at once...and sometimes even more! Nobody "wants" to multibox. People multibox as a way of dealing with game mechanics; whether that be not being able to see the market prices in another region, need a scout to warn you when targets are coming to your camp, need a scout so you can AVOID that camp in your hauler, or needed someone to drop a cyno so you can move your capital around. Anyone whos used to multiboxing will be able to empathise with the enjoyment that comes in those few times where you can maximise your main to fullscreen and just run a single account in a pvp encounter. Other developers ban or make difficult multipboxing. Eve activly encourages this "unique situation" both indirectly via game mechanics, and directly through offers sugh as "the power of two" SKUNK This is why they think people have money to burn, that extra cash they want. Because idiots subscribe 2 or sometimes 7 accounts! If everybody only had one account, CCP wouldn't think we had all that surplus cash to scam out of us. How is it a scam exactly? they tell you exactly what you get before you pay up, So how is it a scam? If you really believe they're scamming you you should file a lawsuit as it's illegal.
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.18 22:32:00 - [4] Originally by: N'tek alar Originally by: Miilla Originally by: Le Skunk Edited by: Le Skunk on 18/06/2011 22:21:54 More interesting "takes" on reality from ccp as the publicity machine winds up to polish the turd that is incarna Originally by: CCP Zulu But we have a bit of a unique situation to deal with that not all game developers have to take into account. People love EVE so much that they donæt just want to play one EVE, they want to play two EVEs at once...and sometimes even more! Nobody "wants" to multibox. People multibox as a way of dealing with game mechanics; whether that be not being able to see the market prices in another region, need a scout to warn you when targets are coming to your camp, need a scout so you can AVOID that camp in your hauler, or needed someone to drop a cyno so you can move your capital around. Anyone whos used to multiboxing will be able to empathise with the enjoyment that comes in those few times where you can maximise your main to fullscreen and just run a single account in a pvp encounter. Other developers ban or make difficult multipboxing. Eve activly encourages this "unique situation" both indirectly via game mechanics, and directly through offers sugh as "the power of two" SKUNK This is why they think people have money to burn, that extra cash they want. Because idiots subscribe 2 or sometimes 7 accounts! If everybody only had one account, CCP wouldn't think we had all that surplus cash to scam out of us. How is it a scam exactly? they tell you exactly what you get before you pay up, So how is it a scam? If you really believe they're scamming you you should file a lawsuit as it's illegal. I see no Hulk!
Atticus Fynch Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.18 22:37:00 - [5] If I could play all three of my toons at once, i would not have a need for "more EVEs." I just do one account. I dont have money to burn or a "mommy" I can borrow a CC from.
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.18 22:39:00 - [6] Originally by: Atticus Fynch If I could play all three of my toons at once, i would not have a need for "more EVEs." I just do one account. I dont have money to burn or a "mommy" I can borrow a CC from. Why cant you multi role one toon? I do. Lots of people do. Its called FUN.
Atticus Fynch Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.18 22:42:00 - [7] Originally by: Miilla Originally by: Atticus Fynch If I could play all three of my toons at once, i would not have a need for "more EVEs." I just do one account. I dont have money to burn or a "mommy" I can borrow a CC from. Why cant you multi role one toon? I do. Lots of people do. Its called FUN. I do. All I'm saying is being able to use your other toons at once would be good as well. ie. One would mine, one would haul, and the other would stand guard in low sec. But that feature would take $$$ away from our CCP masters.
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.18 22:44:00 - [8] Edited by: Miilla on 18/06/2011 22:45:23 Originally by: Atticus Fynch Originally by: Miilla Originally by: Atticus Fynch If I could play all three of my toons at once, i would not have a need for "more EVEs." I just do one account. I dont have money to burn or a "mommy" I can borrow a CC from. Why cant you multi role one toon? I do. Lots of people do. Its called FUN. I do. All I'm saying is being able to use your other toons at once would be good as well. ie. One would mine, one would haul, and the other would stand guard in low sec. But that feature would take $$$ away from our CCP masters. That's called GREED. Why don't you Mine one day, haul another, roam lowsec some other day. Or instead of daily, haul for 2 hours, mine for 2 hours, roam low the rest. Or pay a hauler. reprocess your loot
Sarton Wells	Posted - 2011.06.18 22:45:00 - [9] Originally by: Le Skunk Nobody "wants" to multibox. People multibox as a way of dealing with game mechanics; whether that be not being able to see the market prices in another region, need a scout to warn you when targets are coming to your camp, need a scout so you can AVOID that camp in your hauler, or needed someone to drop a cyno so you can move your capital around. Anyone whos used to multiboxing will be able to empathise with the enjoyment that comes in those few times where you can maximise your main to fullscreen and just run a single account in a pvp encounter. Other developers ban, make difficult or provide no benefit in multiboxing. Eve activly encourages this "unique situation" both indirectly via game mechanics, and directly through offers sugh as "the power of two" SKUNK Because all of those things are impossible to do if you have friends in the game, right? And btw which developers ban for having multiple accounts?
Orlacc	Posted - 2011.06.18 22:45:00 - [10] Originally by: Atticus Fynch Originally by: Miilla Originally by: Atticus Fynch If I could play all three of my toons at once, i would not have a need for "more EVEs." I just do one account. I dont have money to burn or a "mommy" I can borrow a CC from. Why cant you multi role one toon? I do. Lots of people do. Its called FUN. I do. All I'm saying is being able to use your other toons at once would be good as well. ie. One would mine, one would haul, and the other would stand guard in low sec. But that feature would take $$$ away from our CCP masters. What MMO lets you play 3 toons at once?? Thats nuts!

Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.18 22:47:00 - [11] The reason you can only have one toon per account active is called FARMING. You can thank the farmers for that.
Cailais Amarr Dawn of a new Empire The Initiative.	Posted - 2011.06.18 22:47:00 - [12] Don't forget that not only will you want to multi box on your PC, thanks to CCPs awesome 'BizDevs' you too can feel obliged to pay through the nose for DUST on the PS3! Woot! \o/ C. the hydrostatic capsule blog
San Severina Minmatar Autocannons Anonymous	Posted - 2011.06.18 22:49:00 - [13] You can't polish a turd but you can dip it in chrome!
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.18 22:50:00 - [14] Originally by: San Severina You can't polish a turd but you can dip it in chrome! You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig.
Atticus Fynch Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.18 22:52:00 - [15] Edited by: Atticus Fynch on 18/06/2011 22:52:34 Originally by: Miilla That's called GREED. Why don't you Mine one day, haul another, roam lowsec some other day. Or instead of daily, haul for 2 hours, mine for 2 hours, roam low the rest. Or pay a hauler. reprocess your loot I DO!!!! What do you think because the game limits me I'm just going to bend over and take it? You have to be innovative in EVE or you wont survive. Meanwhile I have 2 alts that sit dormant while one takes the lead. (Although they do cover my research and manufacturing needs...but that's about it.)
Lord Kazuhiro	Posted - 2011.06.18 23:05:00 - [16] Originally by: Miilla Originally by: San Severina You can't polish a turd but you can dip it in chrome! You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig. In a hillbilly accent But she'd look awfully more perty.
Jennifer Starling Imperial Navy Forum Patrol	Posted - 2011.06.18 23:06:00 - [17] Originally by: Le Skunk Nobody "wants" to multibox. People multibox as a way of dealing with game mechanics; whether that be not being able to see the market prices in another region, need a scout to warn you when targets are coming to your camp, need a scout so you can AVOID that camp in your hauler, or needed someone to drop a cyno so you can move your capital around. I know quite a few crazy miners who beg to differ. Some people see EVE a bit like a strategy game where more = better. Quote: Other developers ban, make difficult or provide no benefit in multiboxing. Eve activly encourages this "unique situation" both indirectly via game mechanics, and directly through offers sugh as "the power of two" True. So? That's their way to make up for the low number of players. If you have 100k players paying $45 a month it's just as good as 300k players paying $15.
Adunh Slavy	Posted - 2011.06.18 23:08:00 - [18] Originally by: Le Skunk Nobody "wants" to multibox. SKUNK Why I don't fly caps and opted not to be a pirate, just traps. My faith in CCP will return SoonÖ
Mars Theran Caldari EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.18 23:13:00 - [19] Considering the 12 years required to sufficiently train my main, I couldn't imagine training a second character on the same account. Considering the *****fest for multi-skilling the same character, I couldn't imagine doing more than one thing on my main. Considering the fact that everbody has ten alt's with which to do everything I can do, only better, I can't imagine having alts to do other things. Considering the only thing I can do in EVE that will allow me to be helpful without being yet another Indy is PvP, I can't imagine training anything but PvP. Considering all that: Why would I need Alts? Why would I need to Multi-Skill? Why would I want to do anything but train for PvP?
Mr Kidd	Posted - 2011.06.18 23:17:00 - [20] Edited by: Mr Kidd on 18/06/2011 23:17:40 Originally by: Sarton Wells Because all of those things are impossible to do if you have friends in the game, right? Ya know, there comes a point when you and your corpmates realize there just isn't anything to *cking do without investing another +4 hours to make it happen and another +3 hours to see it through. I've got two accounts plus corpmates and frequently I'm playing an entirely different game in the background waiting for sht to start rolling. I think that's the reason a lot of people multibox.....the shear magnitude of nothing to do in this game. And before you say it....I ask myself frequently exactly that.

Gwenywell Shumuku	Posted - 2011.06.18 23:17:00 - [21] Originally by: San Severina You can't polish a turd but you can dip it in chrome! Sry but you are wrong there, Mythbusters did polish turds, it works. Just takes time, but it still smells like and is ****.
Morphisat Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering	Posted - 2011.06.18 23:54:00 - [22] The show is now being run by so called Biz Devs, ie. the Marketing department. We'll get more of this crap in the future .
Hans Jagerblitzen Autocannons Anonymous	Posted - 2011.06.18 23:59:00 - [23] Originally by: Le Skunk Nobody "wants" to multibox. People multibox as a way of dealing with game mechanics; whether that be not being able to see the market prices in another region, need a scout to warn you when targets are coming to your camp, need a scout so you can AVOID that camp in your hauler, or needed someone to drop a cyno so you can move your capital around. Anyone whos used to multiboxing will be able to empathise with the enjoyment that comes in those few times where you can maximise your main to fullscreen and just run a single account in a pvp encounter. SKUNK I multibox all the time, but never feel compelled to do so. Anyone who's multiboxed knows that there can be great risk in multitasking, much more so in pvp, and that the increased risk is the trade off for doing multiple things at once. I dont quite see how dualboxing fits into the whole CCP-just-wants-your-money paranoia. I played for a loooong time with one account, and still mostly play one account at a time. Can you clarify what it is single accounts should be able to do that CCP forces you to add second account for in the name of the almighty evil profit margin?
robbyx	Posted - 2011.06.19 00:21:00 - [24] WOW...just, wow....is volcanic ash a mind altering substance ? This just goes to show that CCP realy dont listen to or give a s**t what its player think.
AJ Yaga	Posted - 2011.06.19 00:32:00 - [25] Originally by: Hans Jagerblitzen ... Can you clarify what it is single accounts should be able to do that CCP forces you to add second account for in the name of the almighty evil profit margin? Dock in a SC?
Doctor Ungabungas Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.06.19 04:32:00 - [26] Originally by: AJ Yaga Originally by: Hans Jagerblitzen ... Can you clarify what it is single accounts should be able to do that CCP forces you to add second account for in the name of the almighty evil profit margin? Dock in a SC? You can park a supercap in a CSMA if you're so inclined.
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2011.06.19 04:40:00 - [27] Originally by: Le Skunk More interesting "takes" on reality from ccp as the publicity machine winds up to polish the turd that is incarna Originally by: CCP Zulu But we have a bit of a unique situation to deal with that not all game developers have to take into account. People love EVE so much that they donæt just want to play one EVE, they want to play two EVEs at once...and sometimes even more! Nobody "wants" to multibox. People multibox as a way of dealing with game mechanics; whether that be not being able to see the market prices in another region, need a scout to warn you when targets are coming to your camp, need a scout so you can AVOID that camp in your hauler, or needed someone to drop a cyno so you can move your capital around. Anyone whos used to multiboxing will be able to empathise with the enjoyment that comes in those few times where you can maximise your main to fullscreen and just run a single account in a pvp encounter. Other developers ban, make difficult or provide no benefit in multiboxing. Eve activly encourages this "unique situation" both indirectly via game mechanics, and directly through offers sugh as "the power of two" SKUNK My thoughts exactly as I was reading that. CCP = Hypocrites Get rid of Rooms with Doors - Shortrange Jumpdrives for everybody!
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2011.06.19 04:46:00 - [28] Sod off, CCP. A lot less people would multibox if it weren't neccessary to keep up with the rat race your bad design choices bring. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Ioci Gallente Space Mermaids	Posted - 2011.06.19 04:52:00 - [29] I multibox. 5 accounts, 15 characters trained in T2 ships of one flavor or another. It isn't because I want an edge, it isnt because I feel compelled to do it by mechenics. Its because the game played with 1 character is like watching grass grow. It's just plain too ****ing boring in the short term
Sucateira	Posted - 2011.06.19 04:54:00 - [30] People want to do everything on their own and then embrace the super lame crap of having more than one account. Every time I read a EVE guide, forum and etcs... I see people saying "This is EVE, you need a Corp, you need to play in team, this is not a game to solo" bla bla bla Then those guys have 2 or 3 or 4 accounts. How about getting someone on your corp to scout? How about other one to haul...and so on. You guys want to maximize profits and reduce losses above all else, so you have multiple accounts. Then call the other people carebears. "You" are a sad carebear cause you need to travel safe and do it alone. All you guys fault... lame crap. Start recruiting people form all sort of prof/min prof in the game. People that like to explore to do your scouts... travel as a team. Get industrial people to haul your stuff. Make bigger corps and you will have enough numbers to play like this. Whatever, do something useful. This multi acc crap is completly lame and gamebreaking for me. Ridiculous :))



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