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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.06.19 12:07:00 -
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Edited by: Miilla on 19/06/2011 12:08:18
Originally by: Estephania
Originally by: Miilla
In Eve, that is legitimate.
Acutally if you read the game description of Eve, it is what the core of Eve is about. So if you are just a carebear, you are missing out of the core features of Eve.
Didn't mean it was bannable or something,and btw I'm very far from being a carebear. I simply prefer "honorable" engagements.
So you're one of THOSE people that cry about RR that play dance around the jetcan like 2 women on a dance floor and their handbags at a station and cry that wasn't fair.
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Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
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Posted - 2011.06.19 12:14:00 -
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Originally by: Le Skunk Nobody "wants" to multibox. People multibox as a way of avoiding game mechanics that are intended to encourage player cooperation.
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators Chubby Chuppers Chubba Chups
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Posted - 2011.06.19 12:17:00 -
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Edited by: Le Skunk on 19/06/2011 12:19:27 I am not criticising the use or non use of multiboxing. I am criticising another of the "cloud cuckoo land" PR releases which are jaw droppingly insincere. A more accurate release would go as follows:
A MORE ACCURATE PR RELEASE
Hi. We at CCP realise a lot of you multibox in order to overcome some of the more tedious parts of the game we have chosen not to fix. Whilst this is immersion breaking, we have long let it ride as it brings in a lot more money per month and boosts out subscriber figures. In fact, our marketing department occasionaly even promotes this practice, with "the power of two" offers.
Now this creates a problem when incarna hits on tuesday. We had decided to force players to use captains quarters, and have no way to turn it into a normal "oldschool" ship spinning station environment. We did this as we have spent years programing this content, and it would be galling (despite our comments in the past saying it would be an option) for players to have a quick run around, rotate their camera to look up their own skirt, then click the "no captains quarters" box.
Its the same thinking behind not allowing players to default to "no local chat picture" and instead force 100 thousand totaly irrelevant tiny files onto your hardrive. We think its cool.. so must you!
However, here lies the problem. Multiple instances of incarna grind down your machine. Here at ccp we all use the latest software, the latest pcs, and the latest gourmet sandwiches. (remember boot.ini ... non of us had bothere to test the client on windows XP as thats OLDDD MAN. We were all using Vista becuase its cutting edge yo). CCP Snookles even has a round table with a hole in the middle that he has to CLIMB UNDER the table to access the hole. This means he can have 360 degree monitors and spin his chair around to see them all. Its is aweshome ja?
But you players out there might have a pc older then 6 months or something. And multiple captains quarters leads to multiple crashes leads to multiple "on the hairy edge of quitting" vets to unsub multiple accounts which leads to multiple snotty #ungratefuloik tweets from the higher ups.
AND NOBODY LIKES TO RECIEVE A SNOTTY TWEET!
So we have decided to allow you to turn the CQ off for a few months. We will removed this option in a few months when the furour over the other PR **** ups has died down and you are less likely to quit.
THANKS GUYS! (o)
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Scorpii Zenith
Minmatar Ancient Heat
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Posted - 2011.06.19 12:23:00 -
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Originally by: Le Skunk Edited by: Le Skunk on 18/06/2011 22:24:33
More interesting "takes" on reality from ccp as the publicity machine winds up to polish the turd that is incarna
Originally by: CCP Zulu But we have a bit of a unique situation to deal with that not all game developers have to take into account. People love EVE so much that they donęt just want to play one EVE, they want to play two EVEs at once...and sometimes even more!
Nobody "wants" to multibox. People multibox as a way of dealing with game mechanics; whether that be not being able to see the market prices in another region, need a scout to warn you when targets are coming to your camp, need a scout so you can AVOID that camp in your hauler, or needed someone to drop a cyno so you can move your capital around.
Anyone whos used to multiboxing will be able to empathise with the enjoyment that comes in those few times where you can maximise your main to fullscreen and just run a single account in a pvp encounter.
Other developers ban, make difficult or provide no benefit in multiboxing. Eve activly encourages this "unique situation" both indirectly via game mechanics, and directly through offers sugh as "the power of two"
SKUNK
You fail.
ISK/HOUR mentality is the reason why people get more accounts.
Most of multiaccount users play mostly by themselves, instead of playing together with others.
Those who realise that scouting can be done without second account, are actually playing together and having fun. 
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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.06.19 12:26:00 -
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Shader model 3.0 is years old, latest is 5.0 now.
Yes the great thing about MMO's is they appeal to a WIDE audience of low end machines AND low bandwidth / quota internets.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixel_shader#Hardware
Lifetime of a laptop, 7 to 8 years tops really, my netbook, has shader 4.1. (not integrated) - but my netbook wasnt one of those cheap ones :)
Not being snotty, just being realistic.
If your netbook hasnt got the shader 3.0, go out and buy a cheap 5 year old laptop, it will have dedicated graphics and shader 3.0, you can pick them up cheap, and they will be more powerfull than a cheap integrated netbook.
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Estephania
Independent Political Analysts
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Posted - 2011.06.19 12:31:00 -
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Lol, why do you think I cry about something not fair? Why should I cry about RR and dance around jetcan?
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Forando
Interstellar Cowards
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Posted - 2011.06.19 12:43:00 -
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I've been using more than one account actively in most MMO's I've played. (Linage 2, WOW, Dark Age of Camelot and others) It's not something I frown upon. But one of the main reasons is, that it allow a little group of RL friends to be quite flexible. Even more so in EVE, as EVE has a certain demand of focused character specialization, due to the skill system.
Nobody "wants" to multibox!? Sorry, but you're just navily guessing there, my friend!
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators Chubby Chuppers Chubba Chups
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Posted - 2011.06.19 12:56:00 -
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Originally by: Forando ... Even more so in EVE, as EVE has a certain demand of focused character specialization, due to the skill system.
Indeed, even in your confused defence of the PR post, you inadvertently provide more ammunition for my criticism of it
SKUNK
(o)
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Hannibal Ord
Minmatar Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.06.19 12:59:00 -
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Originally by: Le Skunk Edited by: Le Skunk on 19/06/2011 12:19:27 I am not criticising the use or non use of multiboxing. I am criticising another of the "cloud cuckoo land" PR releases which are jaw droppingly insincere. A more accurate release would go as follows:
A MORE ACCURATE PR RELEASE
Hi. We at CCP realise a lot of you multibox in order to overcome some of the more tedious parts of the game we have chosen not to fix. Whilst this is immersion breaking, we have long let it ride as it brings in a lot more money per month and boosts out subscriber figures. In fact, our marketing department occasionaly even promotes this practice, with "the power of two" offers.
Now this creates a problem when incarna hits on tuesday. We had decided to force players to use captains quarters, and have no way to turn it into a normal "oldschool" ship spinning station environment. We did this as we have spent years programing this content, and it would be galling (despite our comments in the past saying it would be an option) for players to have a quick run around, rotate their camera to look up their own skirt, then click the "no captains quarters" box.
Its the same thinking behind not allowing players to default to "no local chat picture" and instead force 100 thousand totaly irrelevant tiny files onto your hardrive. We think its cool.. so must you!
However, here lies the problem. Multiple instances of incarna grind down your machine. Here at ccp we all use the latest software, the latest pcs, and the latest gourmet sandwiches. (remember boot.ini ... non of us had bothere to test the client on windows XP as thats OLDDD MAN. We were all using Vista becuase its cutting edge yo). CCP Snookles even has a round table with a hole in the middle that he has to CLIMB UNDER the table to access the hole. This means he can have 360 degree monitors and spin his chair around to see them all. Its is aweshome ja?
But you players out there might have a pc older then 6 months or something. And multiple captains quarters leads to multiple crashes leads to multiple "on the hairy edge of quitting" vets to unsub multiple accounts which leads to multiple snotty #ungratefuloik tweets from the higher ups.
AND NOBODY LIKES TO RECIEVE A SNOTTY TWEET!
So we have decided to allow you to turn the CQ off for a few months. We will removed this option in a few months when the furour over the other PR **** ups has died down and you are less likely to quit.
THANKS GUYS!
Quite possibly best thing I ever read on this forum.
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Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
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Posted - 2011.06.19 13:06:00 -
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I'm pretty sure CCP is against spin. After the 21st there is going to be no spinning going on anywhere.
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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.06.19 13:32:00 -
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If i had to pay twice or 7 times as much as a normal person to play a game, I would seriously reconsider what I consider FUN.
Sure, In eve you can leech of somebody else and pay by PLEX; great, but it still is too much work to run more than one toon for my liking lol.
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Lady Go Diveher
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Posted - 2011.06.19 13:37:00 -
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It doesn't matter what CCP do to the game mechanics, being able to pilot two players at once will ALWAYS give you an advantage if the alternative is being alone.
Legitimizing dual-boxing just stops the endless QQ about players who WOULD STILL DO IT IF IT WERE ILLEGAL and get an edge.
Unless the 'game mechanics' are that is it impossible for more than two players to meet in space at one time, this will always be the case. Some of us remember when it was legalized in the first place, and the reasons why 
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