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Optimo Sebiestor
The Society Calyxes
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Posted - 2012.09.12 10:08:00 -
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I've seen a person singlehandedly take out a 6 man gatecamp with a cruiser. I have no idea what OP is talking about lol.. |
Roime
Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance
1170
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Posted - 2012.09.12 10:10:00 -
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What do you think about this?
http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&view=kills&plt_id=83996&m=8&y=2012
Check out his vids, jampyzero on YouTube. Also Eve is Easy, cool stuff all and lots of tips for soloing.
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
Commander Predator
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2012.09.12 10:10:00 -
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Optimo Sebiestor wrote:I've seen a person singlehandedly take out a 6 man gatecamp with a cruiser. I have no idea what OP is talking about lol..
iv'e seen more spectacular things and done more spectacular things, but its not a normal occurance, and im willing to bet that the camp was probably by newish players, taking sentries, no logi or falcon obviously, and probably in larger ships not able to track the cruiser. |
Mars Theran
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
278
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Posted - 2012.09.12 10:12:00 -
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I understand the post, but I fail to see why you would choose a ship that only proves your point.
With as much SP as you have, and presumably as much experience as you have to go with it, I'd expect you to spend a few billion ISK on something that gets around a lot faster and makes it easier to decide which battles you are going to fight.
Staying alive and playing in solo PvP comes down to essentially two things: The ability to maneuver and get around, and get out, and the ability to selectively isolate and remove your adversaries.
Not sure of any better way to put it. A Tier 3 Battleship only really has one of those bases covered: The ability to get out.
What you want is a HAC or something like, that is fast and fits easily to compensate for it's lower tank. The active tank is more feasible on one of these because it has lower sig and higher speed to reduce potential incoming DPS and doesn't get locked up in a second.
Even then you fit some buffer to reduce the impact of alpha and you focus on holding targets and limiting their potential maneuverability.
Those are your best options, and I think always have been. Outmaneuver your opponents and you will have a better and more interesting fight. Go out to die, and you'll end up wasting your time and losing your ship.
You'll probably lose your ship either way, but at least it will leave you feeling better if you don't just sit there and take DPS like a pin-cushion. The BS route doesn't offer a lot of options, and the only way you're getting out is if you stay on gate and deaggress to jump while using a buffer tank. Even then, you probably won't get away unless the next system is highsec and they attacked you.
I have deleted and cleared my signature 7 times and it still won't go away. |
Klown Walk
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
138
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Posted - 2012.09.12 10:15:00 -
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I feel the same, I have died so many times to ecm that I don't want to solo anymore. |
Commander Predator
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2012.09.12 10:16:00 -
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what i think is, kil2 is good at the game yes... but most of the 1 v 1's are frigate/destroyer kills/fights... pretty much anything bigger than a destroyer he had at least a small fleet to help him... the one or two exceptions was ethereal dawn... he killed a hugginn/curse in a myrm... not that far fetched... ED are noobs for the most part, but going deeper into my problems with the game, alliances like that replace those losses like nothing. games broken in alot of ways... kil2 is just one exception |
0wl
Pocket Pirates
12
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Posted - 2012.09.12 10:17:00 -
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I wouldn't say it was dead as such; more...Why bother soloing when you can blob things, get the kills and never lose ships, ISK takes time to make for most. I love soloing...But it's rare...Which is a shame. |
Commander Predator
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2012.09.12 10:19:00 -
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0wl wrote:Why bother soloing when you can blob things, get the kills and never lose ships, ISK.
thats the problem right there:P thats the new mentality of the game and its a problem
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Yolanta Geezenstack
GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated
32
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Posted - 2012.09.12 10:24:00 -
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It always astonishes me that people who claim to not care about anything anymore, do announce this in a public forum. |
Babar Baboli
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
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Posted - 2012.09.12 10:38:00 -
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There are plenty of solo-action in Factional Warfare. |
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Keen Fallsword
Skyway Patrol
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Posted - 2012.09.12 10:45:00 -
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Yep !! Same here I was trying solo in my talos an some others ship but I've died from falcons. It's the worst thing in this game I mean ******* ecms .. So I lost few taloses all because falcons .. Eve is the only game that player is unable do anything for whole fight. After that I said "this game is not for me anymore" and quit.. |
Keen Fallsword
Skyway Patrol
73
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Posted - 2012.09.12 10:46:00 -
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Written Word wrote:Go play WoW instead if you think having your shipfit and your skillpoints should translate to any sort of PvP success.
You will not understand what is solo pvp sorry.. |
Keen Fallsword
Skyway Patrol
73
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Posted - 2012.09.12 10:49:00 -
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Eugene Kerner wrote:as noone said it just yet.. ur stuff... can I hazz it?!?
If you can't make Isk in eve you are half-brain or lul. You may decide... |
Durzel
The Xenodus Initiative.
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Posted - 2012.09.12 10:54:00 -
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If only solo PvP actually meant that, maybe people wouldn't feel so inclined to blob (they probably still would)
If I see a solo active shield tanking BS in lowsec I think "wonder where his two link characters are". Perhaps that's what the other guys thought too. |
Optimo Sebiestor
The Society Calyxes
2
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Posted - 2012.09.12 11:02:00 -
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Commander Predator wrote:Optimo Sebiestor wrote:I've seen a person singlehandedly take out a 6 man gatecamp with a cruiser. I have no idea what OP is talking about lol.. iv'e seen more spectacular things and done more spectacular things, but its not a normal occurance, and im willing to bet that the camp was probably by newish players, taking sentries, no logi or falcon obviously, and probably in larger ships not able to track the cruiser.
Well, it was pretty much a battlecruiser sized camp with some faction frigates, sitting at a bubble in 0.0. Nothing wrong with kiting when your outgunned and outnumberd. Just checked, and he is now learning new dudes tricks in R'v'B. |
Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
140
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Posted - 2012.09.12 11:11:00 -
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Commander Predator wrote:
however i didnt realise a falcon was going to decloak and perma jam me for 10 minutes while i die slowly...
n
If you are deagressed for 10 minutes why didn't you just jump through to the other side where there was no falcon?
Or is this just you crying because you are bad at solo and didn't leave yourself an out in a brick? |
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
848
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Posted - 2012.09.12 11:15:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Funny thing here is that my iteron V is a better solo hunter than the OP
Reminds me of that Itty taking-down a Megathron. Good chuckles. The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |
Keen Fallsword
Skyway Patrol
73
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Posted - 2012.09.12 11:16:00 -
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Doddy wrote:Commander Predator wrote:
however i didnt realise a falcon was going to decloak and perma jam me for 10 minutes while i die slowly...
n
If you are deagressed for 10 minutes why didn't you just jump through to the other side where there was no falcon? Or is this just you crying because you are bad at solo and didn't leave yourself an out in a brick?
Because he wanted to fight ? Is this sooo hard to understand ? You are jammed and you are waiting to give a hit.. But falcon jamming you over and over .. This game is so broken .. gee |
Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
140
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Posted - 2012.09.12 11:28:00 -
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Commander Predator wrote:
but everything in this game is now just numbers game
Also you do realise that the only things that really stop eve being a pure numbers game are logis and ewar. I think what you are really annoyed about is that it is impossible to use these things when flying solo.
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Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
140
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Posted - 2012.09.12 11:35:00 -
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Keen Fallsword wrote:Doddy wrote:Commander Predator wrote:
however i didnt realise a falcon was going to decloak and perma jam me for 10 minutes while i die slowly...
n
If you are deagressed for 10 minutes why didn't you just jump through to the other side where there was no falcon? Or is this just you crying because you are bad at solo and didn't leave yourself an out in a brick? Because he wanted to fight ? Is this sooo hard to understand ? You are jammed and you are waiting to give a hit.. But falcon jamming you over and over .. This game is so broken .. gee
Right so the other guys should just leave the falcon and the RR behind and lose some ships cos this guy flashed his isk?
Well unless the guys he was fighting were Morons they would have someone ready to jump through and tackle him on the other side of the gate,thus giving him a fight at least for a while with no falcon. If he really could tank them for 10 minutes he would have had plenty time to do this repeatedly. Landing on a gate with a hostile gang, trying to get their falcon agressed and then jumping through to fight without falcon is something people have been doing in eve for years.
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Eelis Kiy
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
6
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Posted - 2012.09.12 11:47:00 -
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Step 1. Set up corp called "honorable 1v1 corp" Step 2. recruit honorable 1v1 fans Step 3. Pre arrange matches and ship types and rules so it is all equal and fun for all with no one trying to kill you who was not pre-invited, yipeee!! Step 4. Try not to get war decced |
Rashmika Clavain
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
19
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Posted - 2012.09.12 11:56:00 -
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Keen Fallsword wrote:
Because he wanted to fight ? Is this sooo hard to understand ? You are jammed and you are waiting to give a hit.. But falcon jamming you over and over .. This game is so broken .. gee
You cannot fight aganist a gang with ECM solo, if you are jammed for "ten minutes". You can however deagress and jump the gate.
So it boils down to "WAAAAH they wouldn't fight on MY terms", not "WAAAh the game is broken". |
Wolf Kruol
Sinisenkuun Laguuni GREATER ITAMO MAFIA
18
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Posted - 2012.09.12 11:58:00 -
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Commander Predator wrote:
sure if you catch me in the last few suicide runs in the coming days
Be more patient and pick your battles better. Observe your prey.. Watch there behavior. See if they have friends. Once you gut feels better make your move.
soloing is still out there just have to be in the right place at the right time.
GÇ£If you're very very stupid? How can you possibly realize you're very very stupid?
You have to be relatively intelligent to realize how stupid you really are!GÇ¥ |
Mallak Azaria
611
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Posted - 2012.09.12 12:08:00 -
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Commander Predator wrote:make the game better ccp... like... press the restart button and go back to dark ages and ill come back but As my last thing to do before i quit for good ive been spending my isk on ridiculous battleships and going around suicide pvping them. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14591648http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14571216http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14600440in every instance so far as my last test of "JUst for ***** and giggles" there has been at least 1 logi and / or Falcon in a fleet much outnumbering myself now obviously i got around 90m sp and my fit is worth about 2 billion, so a fair fight would be at least 3 or 4 average battleships vrs me or 7 or 8 bc's vrs me, so i wasnt expecting any 1 v 1's.... but everything in this game is now just numbers game but whatever im not the last to go for this reason.
It's called evolution, you either adapt or die (or in the case of EVE, you quit). Looks like you picked the latter.
Mining Barge buff: CCP-áhas acknowledged that miners in general-áare too stupid to make the correct fitting choices to make ganking them unprofitable. |
Hestia Mar
Calmaretto
45
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Posted - 2012.09.12 12:13:00 -
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Quote:
"everybody flies in fleets now because the new people mentality is "If i dont fly in fleets with logi or ecm im going to die" so now pretty much literally every fleet has one ship that makes solo pvp impossible... in all of these occurences, subtract the logi or falcon from the fight and add another bs or bc, their whole fleet, or at least half, was dead before i was. "
there's your problem there...you expect somebody with less than your 90m SP and 2 bil fit to fight you 1 v1; why would they, since they are almost certainly going to lose?
So what you actually want isn't 1v1 fights, you want low SP cannon fodder to blow up for your fun?
Grow up man |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
723
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Posted - 2012.09.12 12:13:00 -
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Flying expensive battleships and have fun, this is an awesome idea to pull your reverence if you think it's the moment to do it.
I could use some of that isk thou brb |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
1148
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Posted - 2012.09.12 12:26:00 -
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I love threads where the OP is quitting because he doesn't care anymore, then proceeds to explain how little he cares and how good he was and how broken Eve is for 3+ pages of replies.
Sorry that you lost at Eve, OP. Better luck in your next game.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
Khorkrak
Confetti Explosion
16
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Posted - 2012.09.12 16:10:00 -
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There are pilots that excel at solo pvp still today. It's really just you. http://www.decloaked.com/ Scroll down there slightly and you'll see some highlighted. Click on them and peruse their kills to see for yourself. Then say to yourself, "I too can do just as well if I try" and go do it instead of quitting. Developer of http://www.decloaked.com and http://sourceforge.net/projects/pykb/ |
Ginger Barbarella
State War Academy Caldari State
99
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Posted - 2012.09.12 16:15:00 -
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FAILQUITTERS UNITE!!!
Can I haz yer--- wait, never mind. Yer stuff has the stink of fail on it, so I don't want it. |
StevieTopSiders
Evolution The Retirement Club
54
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Posted - 2012.09.12 16:23:00 -
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haha wut
fly frigates to gain skill knerd |
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