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Commander Predator
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2012.09.12 08:53:00 -
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make the game better ccp... like... press the restart button and go back to dark ages and ill come back but
As my last thing to do before i quit for good ive been spending my isk on ridiculous battleships and going around suicide pvping them.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14591648
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14571216
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14600440
in every instance so far as my last test of "JUst for ***** and giggles" there has been at least 1 logi and / or Falcon in a fleet much outnumbering myself
now obviously i got around 90m sp and my fit is worth about 2 billion, so a fair fight would be at least 3 or 4 average battleships vrs me or 7 or 8 bc's vrs me, so i wasnt expecting any 1 v 1's....
but everything in this game is now just numbers game
but whatever im not the last to go for this reason. |
Alice Saki
5820
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Posted - 2012.09.12 08:59:00 -
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I feel you... I find it hard to go out Solo now adays, Its either a falcon uncloaks, a Blob or Links....
and I use none.... Scottish Interweb Spaceshippy Person, Very Easily Confused. I like to show my Love by Smashing people in the face with a big Hammer.
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Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2396
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:00:00 -
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You are bad at hunting for solo pilots and reading the situation for traps, then. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
William Walker
House Aratus Fatal Ascension
70
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:07:00 -
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Take some friends with you next time. |
Sabrina Solette
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
98
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:09:00 -
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Alice Saki wrote:I feel you...
Isn't there a law against that? |
Written Word
Written Word's Tax Haven
266
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:10:00 -
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Go play WoW instead if you think having your shipfit and your skillpoints should translate to any sort of PvP success. |
Commander Predator
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:10:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:You are bad at hunting for solo pilots and reading the situation for traps, then.
obviously i realised i was gonna die in each fight.... since im quitting my meter of care is at 0%...
however i didnt realise a falcon was going to decloak and perma jam me for 10 minutes while i die slowly...
also ... i really just dont wanna "hunt" i guess, my problem yah... but back in the day finding good fights was easy occurance, and it was EXTREMELY rare they would 3 out of 3 times always have a falcon or logi
everybody flies in fleets now because the new people mentality is "If i dont fly in fleets with logi or ecm im going to die" so now pretty much literally every fleet has one ship that makes solo pvp impossible... in all of these occurences, subtract the logi or falcon from the fight and add another bs or bc, their whole fleet, or at least half, was dead before i was.
but anyhow... was a few years of fun |
Commander Predator
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:11:00 -
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William Walker wrote:Take some friends with you next time.
yeah i had alot of friends but at least 90% of them have quit for similar reasons, i dont feel like making new ones
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baltec1
Bat Country
2112
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:13:00 -
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Funny thing here is that my iteron V is a better solo hunter than the OP |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
112
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:14:00 -
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as noone said it just yet.. ur stuff... can I hazz it?!? |
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Commander Predator
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:14:00 -
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Written Word wrote:Go play WoW instead if you think having your shipfit and your skillpoints should translate to any sort of PvP success.
maybe you didnt read the part where i said im quitting? i dont know....
also it isnt only shipfit/skillpoints, its that and 6 or 7 years of experience in the game so i mean take what you want from that, like i said, every instance linked above, shipfit/skillpoints and the ability to press f1 would have sufficed minus the gay ships that every fleet nowadays has.
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William Walker
House Aratus Fatal Ascension
70
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:14:00 -
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Commander Predator wrote:William Walker wrote:Take some friends with you next time. yeah i had alot of friends but at least 90% of them have quit for similar reasons, i dont feel like making new ones
Well then it will be a lonely life indeed in EVE. Can I have your stuff before you go? Or just some cash? You'd gain a friend!
oh wait.. |
Commander Predator
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:15:00 -
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Eugene Kerner wrote:as noone said it just yet.. ur stuff... can I hazz it?!?
sure if you catch me in the last few suicide runs in the coming days |
Alice Saki
5820
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:17:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:You are bad at hunting for solo pilots and reading the situation for traps, then.
...Its not that simple, You spend hours roaming.... then say **** it and engage a trap just out boredum Scottish Interweb Spaceshippy Person, Very Easily Confused. I like to show my Love by Smashing people in the face with a big Hammer.
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Commander Predator
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:20:00 -
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Alice Saki wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:You are bad at hunting for solo pilots and reading the situation for traps, then. ...Its not that simple, You spend hours roaming.... then say **** it and engage a trap just out boredum
lol ^^
this thread is a great example
out of the 30 or 40 views so far, only 1 other person has shared similar mindsets to mine... i just lack the "Give a ****" meter atm to hunt and use alts like i use to |
Roime
Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance
1170
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:21:00 -
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We have a guy in corp whose motherboard audio is broken atm so he can't join us on TS, so he just soloes
Gets kills every time he's logged on
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
Mars Theran
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
278
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:21:00 -
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There are much cheaper ways to find solo PvP, even though they end about the same way. That said, they end about the same way; which is both for and against your argument.
Of all the frickin things to fly, why did you choose a Tier 3 Battleship for Solo PvP? They're basically big, slow buffer tanks with limited DPS. Either they are long range with no tracking, or they're short range with no Optimal. If they're short range, you can't get close enough to DPS, and if they're long, you can't hit a Cruiser.
Also, they don't really have any bonuses worth noting for the trouble of training them or paying for them.
Tier 3 BS = POS Bashing tool for bored pilots, or Fleet Long Bombardment with a high buffer, or Fleet short Brawler with moderate DPS on Battleships provided it has the means to get in range with a warp in point or plenty of distractions.
Not much else they are good for aside from sniping which isn't to common these days, and only helpful in a small gang when nobody expects it.
Other reasons not to fly Tier 3 BS:
No Capacitor Poor Align time No effective Active Tank Not enough Buffer fitting for their size No passive Tank Low DPS for their quantity of guns Tier 3 Battle Cruisers There's more...
My experience anyway. Putting 2 Billion ISK in fittings on it doesn't make it better, it just makes it look bad next to other ships that put 2 Billion in fittings on. I have deleted and cleared my signature 7 times and it still won't go away. |
Zloco Crendraven
BALKAN EXPRESS
52
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:23:00 -
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There is like 10 times more ppl now than those "golden ages" and ppl have lots more skill (can fly different ships logi, Ewar) What did u expect?
U chose wrong ship and wrong place. Take smth fast go in null, u ll find plenty of target and will be able to kite/kill.
U took a fockin BS and went around places where u know blobs are around. |
Roime
Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance
1170
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:24:00 -
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Mars don't worry about it,
some people as just wired so that when they lose, it's either the game's fault, or others are unfair.
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
Commander Predator
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:26:00 -
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Mars Theran wrote:There are much cheaper ways to find solo PvP, even though they end about the same way. That said, they end about the same way; which is both for and against your argument.
Of all the frickin things to fly, why did you choose a Tier 3 Battleship for Solo PvP? They're basically big, slow buffer tanks with limited DPS. Either they are long range with no tracking, or they're short range with no Optimal. If they're short range, you can't get close enough to DPS, and if they're long, you can't hit a Cruiser.
Also, they don't really have any bonuses worth noting for the trouble of training them or paying for them.
Tier 3 BS = POS Bashing tool for bored pilots, or Fleet Long Bombardment with a high buffer, or Fleet short Brawler with moderate DPS on Battleships provided it has the means to get in range with a warp in point or plenty of distractions.
Not much else they are good for aside from sniping which isn't to common these days, and only helpful in a small gang when nobody expects it.
Other reasons not to fly Tier 3 BS:
No Capacitor Poor Align time No effective Active Tank Not enough Buffer fitting for their size No passive Tank Low DPS for their quantity of guns Tier 3 Battle Cruisers There's more...
My experience anyway. Putting 2 Billion ISK in fittings on it doesn't make it better, it just makes it look bad next to other ships that put 2 Billion in fittings on.
yeah i know all of this, and thats what ive been trying for a long time before i decided to quit and say **** it
i chose battleships because i like them, they tank fairly well, and i can hit cruisers fine, hardwiring, lvl 5 skills and all -.- and a general understanding of tranversal velocity...
but it was more just of a **** it attitude and just spending my isk before i quit is why i chose what i chose i wasnt neccessarily looking to win, but it proves the point... solo pvp is dead...
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Roime
Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance
1170
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:35:00 -
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No, it doesn't prove anything besides that you are a frustrated attention ***** who rage quits because EVE is ~hard~
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
Commander Predator
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:38:00 -
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Roime wrote:No, it doesn't prove anything besides that you are a frustrated attention ***** who rage quits because EVE is ~hard~
no no good sir eve is by no means hard, i figured it out at 12 years old. how hard could it be
you just get lots of numbers and press f1 right? |
Roime
Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance
1170
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:43:00 -
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Looks like even that is too hard for you.
Sorry, better luck in some other game!
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
Kryss Darkdust
The Skulls
180
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:47:00 -
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I think the point here is that Eve Online is an MMO. Not saying that Solo play doesn't have some purpose in the game, but in as a whole I don't see what CCP could or should do to cater to people who play an Online game by design from the ground up to be a team oriented game. I mean we have corporations, alliances, fleet mechanics.... each ship has a specific purpose designed to be part of a whole... how many hints do you need before you understand that Solo anything is always going to be a second class citizen in this game.
Its a team game... find a team.
The reality of Eve is that, if you don't love it like it is today, you should probobly go ahead and unsub.-á |
Commander Predator
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:50:00 -
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Roime wrote:Looks like even that is too hard for you.
Sorry, better luck in some other game!
i fail to see where you get pressing f1 is too hard for me
i mean i understand what your thinking and why you said it, but logically it makes no sense to me, your obviously just a little dumbed down in the brain.
maybe you fail to understand because i was lazy and didnt explain it in the dumbed down version...
I say **** it and fit ridiculous ship... i roam through many systems for about an hour, not finding a single solo person anywhere or even a fleet.... finally find decent fleet... decent fleet quickly becomes bigger fleet no big deal... bigger fleet calls in logis or falcon or both every time...
I can say i dont give a **** about the isk and have evidence to prove that as much as i want, but the response from almost everybody in some way shape or form is simply "Umadbro?" without even understanding the post. |
Roime
Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance
1170
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:56:00 -
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So you intentionally fly out to lose shitfits, and claim that it somehow proves that solo PvP is dead? Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
Commander Predator
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:56:00 -
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Kryss Darkdust wrote:I think the point here is that Eve Online is an MMO. Not saying that Solo play doesn't have some purpose in the game, but in as a whole I don't see what CCP could or should do to cater to people who play an Online game by design from the ground up to be a team oriented game. I mean we have corporations, alliances, fleet mechanics.... each ship has a specific purpose designed to be part of a whole... how many hints do you need before you understand that Solo anything is always going to be a second class citizen in this game.
Its a team game... find a team.
oh i know this as well, this is just the end. im not saying i didnt use to go around in fleets and kill stuff in the past.. but even in fleet vrs fleet warfare, this game is all about who has the bigger fleet. skill has an impact of course, but significantly less and less all the time.
current mechanics of the game require alliances to be in giant napfests, and have more numbers than the other guy, thats all it is anymore which is fine i guess, but CCP catering to the old type of gameplay isnt going to happen, hence why i said if they fix it ill come back, but their not going to fix it, so its a metaphor in a twisted dumb way of saying im not coming back.
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Rellik B00n
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
155
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:58:00 -
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I understand you OP.
I have been around since 2006 and the game has changed many times over the years.
My advice (without resorting to meme) would be to move with the times.
I havent logged in for anything except skill changes for about 6 weeks BUT for when i do get the Eve urge I have cunningly joined RvB. This at least gives me my own blob and a group of players looking to just have good fights.
Also if you are going to quit just quit. No one responding here is ever going to offer any sympathy which simply turns your situation into a self-fulfilling one. When CCP do the end of year accounts they will notice player count rises and falls and take the appropraite action.
solo pvp may come round again and if it ever does ill be there doing it qfmjt-1 |
Commander Predator
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2012.09.12 10:01:00 -
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Roime wrote:So you intentionally fly out to lose shitfits, and claim that it somehow proves that solo PvP is dead?
well i wouldnt say shitfits, the fit worked great and did lots of damage and coulda tore through any of the ships in all fleets 1 v 1, or even 1 v 5 without logi or falcon, unfortunatley logis rep more than one person so yeah... i intentionally go out and lose ships, may as well spend the isk i have before sub runs out right?
solo pvp might not be dead... but its definetley way to low of a pulse to be considered going strong...
piracy is also dead, which is was usually a form of solo or small fleet, yeah theres -10.0's out there but that doesnt mean that person is a pirate, i havent seen anyone or heard of anyone getting ransomed in a long time, or lonely miners get ganked or anything, piracy is just dead
basically all the things i use to love to do in this game the first few years i played are dead or dieing or take way to much effort for the minute or two of entertainment. |
Commander Predator
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2012.09.12 10:03:00 -
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Rellik B00n wrote:I understand you OP. I have been around since 2006 and the game has changed many times over the years. My advice (without resorting to meme) would be to move with the times. I havent logged in for anything except skill changes for about 6 weeks BUT for when i do get the Eve urge I have cunningly joined RvB. This at least gives me my own blob and a group of players looking to just have good fights. Also if you are going to quit just quit. No one responding here is ever going to offer any sympathy which simply turns your situation into a self-fulfilling one. When CCP do the end of year accounts they will notice player count rises and falls and take the appropraite action. solo pvp may come round again and if it ever does ill be there doing it
yeah the post was asking for trolls lol
figured id go out with a few bangs and some last bit of "smack talk" before going away. |
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Optimo Sebiestor
The Society Calyxes
2
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Posted - 2012.09.12 10:08:00 -
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I've seen a person singlehandedly take out a 6 man gatecamp with a cruiser. I have no idea what OP is talking about lol.. |
Roime
Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance
1170
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Posted - 2012.09.12 10:10:00 -
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What do you think about this?
http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&view=kills&plt_id=83996&m=8&y=2012
Check out his vids, jampyzero on YouTube. Also Eve is Easy, cool stuff all and lots of tips for soloing.
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
Commander Predator
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2012.09.12 10:10:00 -
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Optimo Sebiestor wrote:I've seen a person singlehandedly take out a 6 man gatecamp with a cruiser. I have no idea what OP is talking about lol..
iv'e seen more spectacular things and done more spectacular things, but its not a normal occurance, and im willing to bet that the camp was probably by newish players, taking sentries, no logi or falcon obviously, and probably in larger ships not able to track the cruiser. |
Mars Theran
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
278
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Posted - 2012.09.12 10:12:00 -
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I understand the post, but I fail to see why you would choose a ship that only proves your point.
With as much SP as you have, and presumably as much experience as you have to go with it, I'd expect you to spend a few billion ISK on something that gets around a lot faster and makes it easier to decide which battles you are going to fight.
Staying alive and playing in solo PvP comes down to essentially two things: The ability to maneuver and get around, and get out, and the ability to selectively isolate and remove your adversaries.
Not sure of any better way to put it. A Tier 3 Battleship only really has one of those bases covered: The ability to get out.
What you want is a HAC or something like, that is fast and fits easily to compensate for it's lower tank. The active tank is more feasible on one of these because it has lower sig and higher speed to reduce potential incoming DPS and doesn't get locked up in a second.
Even then you fit some buffer to reduce the impact of alpha and you focus on holding targets and limiting their potential maneuverability.
Those are your best options, and I think always have been. Outmaneuver your opponents and you will have a better and more interesting fight. Go out to die, and you'll end up wasting your time and losing your ship.
You'll probably lose your ship either way, but at least it will leave you feeling better if you don't just sit there and take DPS like a pin-cushion. The BS route doesn't offer a lot of options, and the only way you're getting out is if you stay on gate and deaggress to jump while using a buffer tank. Even then, you probably won't get away unless the next system is highsec and they attacked you.
I have deleted and cleared my signature 7 times and it still won't go away. |
Klown Walk
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
138
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Posted - 2012.09.12 10:15:00 -
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I feel the same, I have died so many times to ecm that I don't want to solo anymore. |
Commander Predator
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
2
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Posted - 2012.09.12 10:16:00 -
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what i think is, kil2 is good at the game yes... but most of the 1 v 1's are frigate/destroyer kills/fights... pretty much anything bigger than a destroyer he had at least a small fleet to help him... the one or two exceptions was ethereal dawn... he killed a hugginn/curse in a myrm... not that far fetched... ED are noobs for the most part, but going deeper into my problems with the game, alliances like that replace those losses like nothing. games broken in alot of ways... kil2 is just one exception |
0wl
Pocket Pirates
12
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Posted - 2012.09.12 10:17:00 -
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I wouldn't say it was dead as such; more...Why bother soloing when you can blob things, get the kills and never lose ships, ISK takes time to make for most. I love soloing...But it's rare...Which is a shame. |
Commander Predator
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
2
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Posted - 2012.09.12 10:19:00 -
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0wl wrote:Why bother soloing when you can blob things, get the kills and never lose ships, ISK.
thats the problem right there:P thats the new mentality of the game and its a problem
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Yolanta Geezenstack
GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated
32
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Posted - 2012.09.12 10:24:00 -
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It always astonishes me that people who claim to not care about anything anymore, do announce this in a public forum. |
Babar Baboli
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
13
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Posted - 2012.09.12 10:38:00 -
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There are plenty of solo-action in Factional Warfare. |
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Keen Fallsword
Skyway Patrol
73
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Posted - 2012.09.12 10:45:00 -
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Yep !! Same here I was trying solo in my talos an some others ship but I've died from falcons. It's the worst thing in this game I mean ******* ecms .. So I lost few taloses all because falcons .. Eve is the only game that player is unable do anything for whole fight. After that I said "this game is not for me anymore" and quit.. |
Keen Fallsword
Skyway Patrol
73
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Posted - 2012.09.12 10:46:00 -
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Written Word wrote:Go play WoW instead if you think having your shipfit and your skillpoints should translate to any sort of PvP success.
You will not understand what is solo pvp sorry.. |
Keen Fallsword
Skyway Patrol
73
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Posted - 2012.09.12 10:49:00 -
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Eugene Kerner wrote:as noone said it just yet.. ur stuff... can I hazz it?!?
If you can't make Isk in eve you are half-brain or lul. You may decide... |
Durzel
The Xenodus Initiative.
64
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Posted - 2012.09.12 10:54:00 -
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If only solo PvP actually meant that, maybe people wouldn't feel so inclined to blob (they probably still would)
If I see a solo active shield tanking BS in lowsec I think "wonder where his two link characters are". Perhaps that's what the other guys thought too. |
Optimo Sebiestor
The Society Calyxes
2
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Posted - 2012.09.12 11:02:00 -
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Commander Predator wrote:Optimo Sebiestor wrote:I've seen a person singlehandedly take out a 6 man gatecamp with a cruiser. I have no idea what OP is talking about lol.. iv'e seen more spectacular things and done more spectacular things, but its not a normal occurance, and im willing to bet that the camp was probably by newish players, taking sentries, no logi or falcon obviously, and probably in larger ships not able to track the cruiser.
Well, it was pretty much a battlecruiser sized camp with some faction frigates, sitting at a bubble in 0.0. Nothing wrong with kiting when your outgunned and outnumberd. Just checked, and he is now learning new dudes tricks in R'v'B. |
Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
140
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Posted - 2012.09.12 11:11:00 -
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Commander Predator wrote:
however i didnt realise a falcon was going to decloak and perma jam me for 10 minutes while i die slowly...
n
If you are deagressed for 10 minutes why didn't you just jump through to the other side where there was no falcon?
Or is this just you crying because you are bad at solo and didn't leave yourself an out in a brick? |
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
848
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Posted - 2012.09.12 11:15:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Funny thing here is that my iteron V is a better solo hunter than the OP
Reminds me of that Itty taking-down a Megathron. Good chuckles. The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |
Keen Fallsword
Skyway Patrol
73
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Posted - 2012.09.12 11:16:00 -
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Doddy wrote:Commander Predator wrote:
however i didnt realise a falcon was going to decloak and perma jam me for 10 minutes while i die slowly...
n
If you are deagressed for 10 minutes why didn't you just jump through to the other side where there was no falcon? Or is this just you crying because you are bad at solo and didn't leave yourself an out in a brick?
Because he wanted to fight ? Is this sooo hard to understand ? You are jammed and you are waiting to give a hit.. But falcon jamming you over and over .. This game is so broken .. gee |
Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
140
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Posted - 2012.09.12 11:28:00 -
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Commander Predator wrote:
but everything in this game is now just numbers game
Also you do realise that the only things that really stop eve being a pure numbers game are logis and ewar. I think what you are really annoyed about is that it is impossible to use these things when flying solo.
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Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
140
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Posted - 2012.09.12 11:35:00 -
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Keen Fallsword wrote:Doddy wrote:Commander Predator wrote:
however i didnt realise a falcon was going to decloak and perma jam me for 10 minutes while i die slowly...
n
If you are deagressed for 10 minutes why didn't you just jump through to the other side where there was no falcon? Or is this just you crying because you are bad at solo and didn't leave yourself an out in a brick? Because he wanted to fight ? Is this sooo hard to understand ? You are jammed and you are waiting to give a hit.. But falcon jamming you over and over .. This game is so broken .. gee
Right so the other guys should just leave the falcon and the RR behind and lose some ships cos this guy flashed his isk?
Well unless the guys he was fighting were Morons they would have someone ready to jump through and tackle him on the other side of the gate,thus giving him a fight at least for a while with no falcon. If he really could tank them for 10 minutes he would have had plenty time to do this repeatedly. Landing on a gate with a hostile gang, trying to get their falcon agressed and then jumping through to fight without falcon is something people have been doing in eve for years.
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Eelis Kiy
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
6
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Posted - 2012.09.12 11:47:00 -
[51] - Quote
Step 1. Set up corp called "honorable 1v1 corp" Step 2. recruit honorable 1v1 fans Step 3. Pre arrange matches and ship types and rules so it is all equal and fun for all with no one trying to kill you who was not pre-invited, yipeee!! Step 4. Try not to get war decced |
Rashmika Clavain
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
19
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Posted - 2012.09.12 11:56:00 -
[52] - Quote
Keen Fallsword wrote:
Because he wanted to fight ? Is this sooo hard to understand ? You are jammed and you are waiting to give a hit.. But falcon jamming you over and over .. This game is so broken .. gee
You cannot fight aganist a gang with ECM solo, if you are jammed for "ten minutes". You can however deagress and jump the gate.
So it boils down to "WAAAAH they wouldn't fight on MY terms", not "WAAAh the game is broken". |
Wolf Kruol
Sinisenkuun Laguuni GREATER ITAMO MAFIA
18
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Posted - 2012.09.12 11:58:00 -
[53] - Quote
Commander Predator wrote:
sure if you catch me in the last few suicide runs in the coming days
Be more patient and pick your battles better. Observe your prey.. Watch there behavior. See if they have friends. Once you gut feels better make your move.
soloing is still out there just have to be in the right place at the right time.
GÇ£If you're very very stupid? How can you possibly realize you're very very stupid?
You have to be relatively intelligent to realize how stupid you really are!GÇ¥ |
Mallak Azaria
611
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Posted - 2012.09.12 12:08:00 -
[54] - Quote
Commander Predator wrote:make the game better ccp... like... press the restart button and go back to dark ages and ill come back but As my last thing to do before i quit for good ive been spending my isk on ridiculous battleships and going around suicide pvping them. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14591648http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14571216http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14600440in every instance so far as my last test of "JUst for ***** and giggles" there has been at least 1 logi and / or Falcon in a fleet much outnumbering myself now obviously i got around 90m sp and my fit is worth about 2 billion, so a fair fight would be at least 3 or 4 average battleships vrs me or 7 or 8 bc's vrs me, so i wasnt expecting any 1 v 1's.... but everything in this game is now just numbers game but whatever im not the last to go for this reason.
It's called evolution, you either adapt or die (or in the case of EVE, you quit). Looks like you picked the latter.
Mining Barge buff: CCP-áhas acknowledged that miners in general-áare too stupid to make the correct fitting choices to make ganking them unprofitable. |
Hestia Mar
Calmaretto
45
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Posted - 2012.09.12 12:13:00 -
[55] - Quote
Quote:
"everybody flies in fleets now because the new people mentality is "If i dont fly in fleets with logi or ecm im going to die" so now pretty much literally every fleet has one ship that makes solo pvp impossible... in all of these occurences, subtract the logi or falcon from the fight and add another bs or bc, their whole fleet, or at least half, was dead before i was. "
there's your problem there...you expect somebody with less than your 90m SP and 2 bil fit to fight you 1 v1; why would they, since they are almost certainly going to lose?
So what you actually want isn't 1v1 fights, you want low SP cannon fodder to blow up for your fun?
Grow up man |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
723
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Posted - 2012.09.12 12:13:00 -
[56] - Quote
Flying expensive battleships and have fun, this is an awesome idea to pull your reverence if you think it's the moment to do it.
I could use some of that isk thou brb |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
1148
|
Posted - 2012.09.12 12:26:00 -
[57] - Quote
I love threads where the OP is quitting because he doesn't care anymore, then proceeds to explain how little he cares and how good he was and how broken Eve is for 3+ pages of replies.
Sorry that you lost at Eve, OP. Better luck in your next game.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
Khorkrak
Confetti Explosion
16
|
Posted - 2012.09.12 16:10:00 -
[58] - Quote
There are pilots that excel at solo pvp still today. It's really just you. http://www.decloaked.com/ Scroll down there slightly and you'll see some highlighted. Click on them and peruse their kills to see for yourself. Then say to yourself, "I too can do just as well if I try" and go do it instead of quitting. Developer of http://www.decloaked.com and http://sourceforge.net/projects/pykb/ |
Ginger Barbarella
State War Academy Caldari State
99
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Posted - 2012.09.12 16:15:00 -
[59] - Quote
FAILQUITTERS UNITE!!!
Can I haz yer--- wait, never mind. Yer stuff has the stink of fail on it, so I don't want it. |
StevieTopSiders
Evolution The Retirement Club
54
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Posted - 2012.09.12 16:23:00 -
[60] - Quote
haha wut
fly frigates to gain skill knerd |
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Alice Saki
5932
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Posted - 2012.09.12 16:49:00 -
[61] - Quote
Babar Baboli wrote:There are plenty of solo-action in Factional Warfare.
Chasing Warp Stabbed Frigs is not Solo Pvp..... Scottish Interweb Spaceshippy Person, Very Easily Confused. I like to show my Love by Smashing people in the face with a big Hammer.
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seany1212
Relentless Destruction
202
|
Posted - 2012.09.12 16:57:00 -
[62] - Quote
OP is a tool, he's clearly made it obvious that he wants to go out in pimp ships and expect to take down 5-6 man gangs without expecting ECM or logi.
The fact that he calls everyone who doesn't agree with his rage-quitting post a troll shows how he really doesn't have any comeback other than just saying the game is broken and CCP needs to fix it.
Solo PVP is not dead, its that you appear to have no clue on how to break down bigger camps or go into fights with any other mentality than "i'll press f1-8 and everything will explode", there are dozens of videos on youtube of solo pvp'ers breaking down far bigger camps than you've come up against and getting kills, even if they die themselves. There may have been more solo fights back when but has already been said you need to adapt with changing times, finding ways to break larger camps or as Kil2 does so well is that he knows what he can take down and how to go about it. It's shown you do not by the way you are bawling on here...
Adapt or die, or in your case, just quit |
Soundwave Plays Diablo
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
123
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Posted - 2012.09.12 17:06:00 -
[63] - Quote
Your mentality that you have 90m SP and a bling fit and should therefore be able to "solo" multiple spaceships illustrates your lack of understanding of game mechanics.
Battles in Eve are won or lost in the fitting window, and the fitting window should be used only after intel on the enemy has been attained.
2 properly fitted 20MSP pilots/ships should be able to **** any 90MSP subcap if they know what hes flying.
I'm not going to say good riddance tho, nor will I ask for your stuff. |
MinefieldS
1 Sick Duck Standss on something
131
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Posted - 2012.09.12 19:37:00 -
[64] - Quote
Commander Predator wrote:make the game better ccp... like... press the restart button and go back to dark ages and ill come back but As my last thing to do before i quit for good ive been spending my isk on ridiculous battleships and going around suicide pvping them. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14591648http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14571216http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14600440in every instance so far as my last test of "JUst for ***** and giggles" there has been at least 1 logi and / or Falcon in a fleet much outnumbering myself now obviously i got around 90m sp and my fit is worth about 2 billion, so a fair fight would be at least 3 or 4 average battleships vrs me or 7 or 8 bc's vrs me, so i wasnt expecting any 1 v 1's.... but everything in this game is now just numbers game but whatever im not the last to go for this reason.
No wonder you're quitting with that loltastic 4:1 K:D ratio on BC. Have fun in your future pay2win games. |
Lady Ayeipsia
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
339
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Posted - 2012.09.12 20:07:00 -
[65] - Quote
Join red vs blue. We have ample silo pilots and a system we use just for soloing. Granted that system is for frig 1 v 1s, but still good. |
Liang Nuren
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
2126
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Posted - 2012.09.12 20:19:00 -
[66] - Quote
Nah, solo PVP is fine. I do it all the time.
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Xuse Senna
Analog Folk SRS.
402
|
Posted - 2012.09.12 20:19:00 -
[67] - Quote
XD D3 |
Methesda
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
26
|
Posted - 2012.09.12 20:21:00 -
[68] - Quote
Alice Saki wrote:Babar Baboli wrote:There are plenty of solo-action in Factional Warfare. Chasing Warp Stabbed Frigs is not Solo Pvp.....
Yes. Yes it is.
That's pretty much summing up the problem I see here. People want to win on their terms != 'good solo pvp'.
To my mind, if you stick two or even more ships together, and call that PvP, you're over-simplfying the situation. In these cases the fight would have been won before the pilots undocked. The thing that makes it interesting, is how you adapt to those situations, avoid/engage in fights.
Seriously, the complaints about ECM have been going on for years. So have the Tuskers, Black Rebel Rifter Club, etc.
I think some of you just need to take a break to be honest. Either that or join a group of like-minded people who can encourage and support your initiative, and help get you back on track. |
Commander Predator
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
12
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Posted - 2012.09.12 21:32:00 -
[69] - Quote
Soundwave Plays Diablo wrote:Your mentality that you have 90m SP and a bling fit and should therefore be able to "solo" multiple spaceships illustrates your lack of understanding of game mechanics.
Battles in Eve are won or lost in the fitting window, and the fitting window should be used only after intel on the enemy has been attained.
2 properly fitted 20MSP pilots/ships should be able to **** any 90MSP subcap if they know what hes flying.
I'm not going to say good riddance tho, nor will I ask for your stuff.
i didnt really go in expecting to win simply off of a fit and skills... i didnt really go in expecting to win at all, how can you win when the majority of times all you run into is blobs
this isnt the only reason im quitting theres a long list of reasons this game is just... well not what it use to be i guess i made another post a while ago with my bitches/moans/complaints/suggestions
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=143448 if your interested
the only reason ive been flying more expensively fitted ships is solely to spend my isk before quitting because why not
the fact that i can go through 100 lowsec systems 3 different times on different days, and at the end of each time all i run into is a new blob is pretty much just like... well... i use to do the same thing and get multiple fights and no blob all the time
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Commander Predator
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
12
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Posted - 2012.09.12 21:50:00 -
[70] - Quote
MinefieldS wrote:[
No wonder you're quitting with that loltastic 4:1 K:D ratio on BC. Have fun in your future pay2win games.
lol sry i dont run around in blobs racking up easy kills to pad my killboard stats that obviously mean so much to me... |
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Vera Nisjivaen
Murientor Tribe Defiant Legacy
0
|
Posted - 2012.09.12 22:12:00 -
[71] - Quote
Commander Predator wrote: the fact that i can go through 100 lowsec systems 3 different times on different days, and at the end of each time all i run into is a new blob is pretty much just like... well... i use to do the same thing and get multiple fights and no blob all the time
You know why that is, right? It's because you were flying around in an expensive, valuable target that takes a lot of damage to kill, and they have scouts. to them you're either ignorant of how PvP works, or you're a bait ship for a fleet, and most people aren't going to assume the first. So they bring their friends, to either kill you as quickly as possible, or also engage the trap they think you're setting. They're the ones that are engaging you here, do you expect them to not come fully prepared?
Take your next few suicide runs out in something other than BSs. Take out a few HACs, or a Vigilant, or maybe something that doesn't scream "Hey, you're going to need a blob to engage this." |
Karn Dulake
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
865
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Posted - 2012.09.12 22:15:00 -
[72] - Quote
OP its not often that i say this but you are an idiot. Do you not understand the basic rules of PvP
First up start in frigates. they allow you to escape if things get hairy or at most you will lost a few million
Speed is always the key which is why so many solo pilots fly vagabonds (very badly)
Take a cloaky ship and pick your fights anything but what you have been doing
A solo battleship is always going to die badly I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion. |
Lord Arakkis
Vestige of Vehemence Dragon Swarm Dynasty
48
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Posted - 2012.09.12 22:22:00 -
[73] - Quote
I wouldnt go as far as the OP, but for a person of my skill level, finding fights isnt hard, but finding fights im willing to have is. Ive spent the last two nights out roaming to no success, and when I finally got tired, i did a ded site and got killed in there when someone probed it down. I even fit an exequoror in the hopes that people would think im mining and fight. Your still a child in the eyes of the universe |
Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
158
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Posted - 2012.09.12 22:25:00 -
[74] - Quote
I get an amazing amount of solo PVP. I do some cool dual boxing, undock my main from my second account in maybe a Drake or a Harby... I get him orbiting the station.... The I sneak up with my other toon and blast myself. BOOM !!!!
The reason it works so well is I stop my anti-psychotic meds the day before and don't remember it's me I'm shooting... |
Liafcipe9000
Smeghead Empire
49
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Posted - 2012.09.12 22:29:00 -
[75] - Quote
come to Hek, you'll find a group of people who actually honor 1v1s. |
Kuan Yida
Huang Yinglong White-Lotus
13
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Posted - 2012.09.12 23:22:00 -
[76] - Quote
I was there when we killed you, here are my thoughts on the matter:
http://kuanyida.tumblr.com/post/31345392828/you-can-stop-the-rokh
1v1 a lone drake, in a belt, in a Faction War system? Heheheh.... |
Commander Predator
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
12
|
Posted - 2012.09.13 00:13:00 -
[77] - Quote
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Mikeh24/K_Cubed_Runnin_Wild.wmv
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Mikeh24/K3_Got_Gank.mkv
plenty of proof i know how to do the pvp thing... |
III ZiggyBang
One Point 0
0
|
Posted - 2012.09.13 00:17:00 -
[78] - Quote
Your stuff?
Yes I'm begging for it!
Plox |
RenDirka
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
|
Posted - 2012.09.13 00:30:00 -
[79] - Quote
Commander Predator wrote:
Go make your own vids ya jerk! and leave my old crap alone! <3 |
Commander Predator
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
14
|
Posted - 2012.09.13 00:36:00 -
[80] - Quote
RenDirka wrote:Commander Predator wrote: Go make your own vids ya jerk! and leave my old crap alone! <3
but you gave me permission via facebook chat mike=// |
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RenDirka
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
|
Posted - 2012.09.13 00:42:00 -
[81] - Quote
Commander Predator wrote:RenDirka wrote:Commander Predator wrote: Go make your own vids ya jerk! and leave my old crap alone! <3 but you gave me permission via facebook chat mike=//
well time to sell this alt.... |
Russell Casey
Deep Void Industrial Group Damned Nation
191
|
Posted - 2012.09.13 00:43:00 -
[82] - Quote
Alice Saki wrote:Babar Baboli wrote:There are plenty of solo-action in Factional Warfare. Chasing Warp Stabbed Frigs is not Solo Pvp.....
No, it's interrupting someone else's PvE and "hard work" and you should be ashamed of yourself for wanting to force your playstyle on them. |
Tyraeil Starblade
Ronin Wing
25
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Posted - 2012.09.13 01:10:00 -
[83] - Quote
Commander Predator wrote:make the game better ccp... like... press the restart button and go back to dark ages and ill come back but As my last thing to do before i quit for good ive been spending my isk on ridiculous battleships and going around suicide pvping them. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14591648http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14571216http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14600440in every instance so far as my last test of "JUst for ***** and giggles" there has been at least 1 logi and / or Falcon in a fleet much outnumbering myself now obviously i got around 90m sp and my fit is worth about 2 billion, so a fair fight would be at least 3 or 4 average battleships vrs me or 7 or 8 bc's vrs me, so i wasnt expecting any 1 v 1's.... but everything in this game is now just numbers game but whatever im not the last to go for this reason.
Wow, those fits belong in the dark ages. Have you heard of ASBs? |
RenDirka
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
|
Posted - 2012.09.13 01:17:00 -
[84] - Quote
Tyraeil Starblade wrote:Commander Predator wrote:make the game better ccp... like... press the restart button and go back to dark ages and ill come back but As my last thing to do before i quit for good ive been spending my isk on ridiculous battleships and going around suicide pvping them. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14591648http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14571216http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14600440in every instance so far as my last test of "JUst for ***** and giggles" there has been at least 1 logi and / or Falcon in a fleet much outnumbering myself now obviously i got around 90m sp and my fit is worth about 2 billion, so a fair fight would be at least 3 or 4 average battleships vrs me or 7 or 8 bc's vrs me, so i wasnt expecting any 1 v 1's.... but everything in this game is now just numbers game but whatever im not the last to go for this reason. Wow, those fits belong in the dark ages. Have you heard of ASBs?
Could have fit an ECCM in the spare mid
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Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
2777
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Posted - 2012.09.13 01:18:00 -
[85] - Quote
Not everyone needs ASB's on everything. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Tyraeil Starblade
Ronin Wing
25
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Posted - 2012.09.13 01:25:00 -
[86] - Quote
Lady Spank wrote:Not everyone needs ASB's on everything.
Yes, yes they do. MOAR ASB CAPTAIN!
I also agree that if the guy hates falcons so much, he should fit an ECCM. |
Imigo Montoya
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
37
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Posted - 2012.09.13 02:42:00 -
[87] - Quote
There are a lot of games out there that sell a fantasy. They provide an experience that is beatable, where results can be achieved by anybody who really tries. They sell the fantasy that you are really good at this and you could save the world/universe.
EVE Online takes that fantasy and beats you half to death with it, then it tells you to HTFU and get over yourself.
It's a multiplayer game where you are facing other people who are trying to beat you just as much as you are trying to beat them. Those other players will use what advantages they can get. You have 90m skillpoints, they have active friends who work together.
If you want EVE to change to suit your playstyle and cater to your fantasy of being awesome, then GTFO and don't ruin a damn good game. |
Commander Predator
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
14
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Posted - 2012.09.13 03:26:00 -
[88] - Quote
Imigo Montoya wrote:There are a lot of games out there that sell a fantasy. They provide an experience that is beatable, where results can be achieved by anybody who really tries. They sell the fantasy that you are really good at this and you could save the world/universe.
EVE Online takes that fantasy and beats you half to death with it, then it tells you to HTFU and get over yourself.
It's a multiplayer game where you are facing other people who are trying to beat you just as much as you are trying to beat them. Those other players will use what advantages they can get. You have 90m skillpoints, they have active friends who work together.
If you want EVE to change to suit your playstyle and cater to your fantasy of being awesome, then GTFO and don't ruin a damn good game.
Im not ruining the game its been ruined already
ASB's are gay **** that ****
as for HTFU.. well.. i mean i flew around with a pretty penny worth of stuff suicidal, and dont feel an ounce of adrenaline rush like i use too... ive hardened but im tired of ccp changing the game for the worse.
eccm would be great btw but... eccm doesnt help against blobs, logistics etc and even with an eccm the falcon would still have me pretty much perma jammed probably use 3 ecms at once, if they all failed he has 3 more, one of them will hit. |
Imigo Montoya
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
37
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Posted - 2012.09.13 04:08:00 -
[89] - Quote
You do realise that since "back in the day" EVE has grown significantly in player numbers right? There are three times as many active subscribers now as there were in 2006.
There are more people playing now, and people have been playing longer and worked out what works and what doesn't. Hypothetically the actual game (the rules, the multimedia, the server code etc) could have stayed exactly the same and would be entirely different based on those two factors alone. I can say that because EVE Online is player driven, and it is the players who create the interesting content. At least CCP seem to recognise this.
Complaining about EVE Online becoming a "numbers game" is like complaining that it is growing and reaching a larger audience. |
Commander Predator
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
14
|
Posted - 2012.09.13 04:10:00 -
[90] - Quote
Imigo Montoya wrote:You do realise that since "back in the day" EVE has grown significantly in player numbers right? There are three times as many active subscribers now as there were in 2006. There are more people playing now, and people have been playing longer and worked out what works and what doesn't. Hypothetically the actual game (the rules, the multimedia, the server code etc) could have stayed exactly the same and would be entirely different based on those two factors alone. I can say that because EVE Online is player driven, and it is the players who create the interesting content. At least CCP seem to recognise this. Complaining about EVE Online becoming a "numbers game" is like complaining that it is growing and reaching a larger audience.
new players replace the old, old that have stayed have alts, new players almost all have alts... its mostly alts not actually 3x as many people... maybe 40% new people... its grown... but not by 300% |
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Ghazu
179
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Posted - 2012.09.13 04:12:00 -
[91] - Quote
Hey if the OP ain't doing it right nobody else is right? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kymPCCclPDU&feature=player_embedded#!
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Liang Nuren
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
2133
|
Posted - 2012.09.13 04:13:00 -
[92] - Quote
Commander Predator wrote:Imigo Montoya wrote:You do realise that since "back in the day" EVE has grown significantly in player numbers right? There are three times as many active subscribers now as there were in 2006. There are more people playing now, and people have been playing longer and worked out what works and what doesn't. Hypothetically the actual game (the rules, the multimedia, the server code etc) could have stayed exactly the same and would be entirely different based on those two factors alone. I can say that because EVE Online is player driven, and it is the players who create the interesting content. At least CCP seem to recognise this. Complaining about EVE Online becoming a "numbers game" is like complaining that it is growing and reaching a larger audience. new players replace the old, old that have stayed have alts, new players almost all have alts... its mostly alts not actually 3x as many people... maybe 40% new people... its grown... but not by 300%
lol projecting much? Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
549
|
Posted - 2012.09.13 04:18:00 -
[93] - Quote
if you are looking for solo pvp join faction warfare and go do some low level plexes in a tech I frig... thats what i do... mostly i die due to lame tracking disrupters... grrr...
but come the updated tristan being a drone boat... well then i might start to win more often! Ok, so you've corrected my spelling,do you care to make a valid point? -áThere are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... |
Liang Nuren
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
2133
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Posted - 2012.09.13 04:25:00 -
[94] - Quote
Judging from your horrible ideas about logis, nothing will save you. >:-)
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
549
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Posted - 2012.09.13 04:27:00 -
[95] - Quote
Liang Nuren wrote:Judging from your horrible ideas about logis, nothing will save you. >:-)
-Liang
right mr. internal rep bonus....
please can we refrain from trolling for at least one day?
tomorrow troll me all you like... Ok, so you've corrected my spelling,do you care to make a valid point? -áThere are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... |
Lilianna Star
SAZI Enterprises The Aslyum
94
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Posted - 2012.09.13 04:40:00 -
[96] - Quote
EVE has many strengths. Solo PvP is not one of them. Even when solo PvP supposedly existed, it wasn't that great.
There are other MMOs out there that have much better solo PvP. In EVE, it's a team effort or nothing. |
Antihrist Pripravnik
Scorpion Road Industry Devil Divided By Zero
47
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Posted - 2012.09.13 04:41:00 -
[97] - Quote
Actually, this is for the OP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYF0BYX_OuU
But, then again, he might be watching too much XDMR's Rokh videos and though that he could always win without any strategy or plan.
Btw. EFT PvP is not real PvP. CCP Ytterbium: Yarrblblbgrlblbgrlblblblbblbgrlblblbgrblblyarrrrdrooooooolonthekeyboardlikealunatic |
Imigo Montoya
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
37
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Posted - 2012.09.13 04:44:00 -
[98] - Quote
Commander Predator wrote:new players replace the old, old that have stayed have alts, new players almost all have alts... its mostly alts not actually 3x as many people... maybe 40% new people... its grown... but not by 300%
You can quibble over possible details, but it is a quantifiable, verifiable fact that there are three times as many active subscriptions now (~350k) than there was in 2006 (~100k).
EVE Online has grown. EVE Online has been around longer now than it had been around then (clearly). These factors have a significant effect on a player driven game's dynamics. Whether it's 40% new people or 200% new people is entirely beside the point. |
Zera Kerrigan
Dark Tempest Enterprises
42
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Posted - 2012.09.13 04:45:00 -
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Yeah I agree. There should be some kind of scaling mechanism. If your opponent or enemy is stronger/better that you, you should get scaled up so that they have no chance against you. Ofcourse then the same would happen to him and it goes on forever but nevermind that. |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
549
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Posted - 2012.09.13 05:04:00 -
[100] - Quote
Lilianna Star wrote:EVE has many strengths. Solo PvP is not one of them. Even when solo PvP supposedly existed, it wasn't that great.
There are other MMOs out there that have much better solo PvP. In EVE, it's a team effort or nothing.
the best fights i ever had were solo pvp... back in the day in a ratting bs deep in null sec before there were all those outposts...
being in a semi pvp/pve ship 16 jumps from an outpost was kick ass... everything you had was in your ship... solo pvp was awesome...
and if you do fw... then its back... all you have to do is join fw with an alt and start doing low level plexes and presto you get a fight... and more often then not its solo pvp...
Ok, so you've corrected my spelling,do you care to make a valid point? -áThere are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... |
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Kuehnelt
Devoid Privateering
287
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Posted - 2012.09.13 05:24:00 -
[101] - Quote
MeBiatch wrote:the best fights i ever had were solo pvp... back in the day in a ratting bs deep in null sec before there were all those outposts...
being in a semi pvp/pve ship 16 jumps from an outpost was kick ass... everything you had was in your ship... solo pvp was awesome...
and if you do fw... then its back... all you have to do is join fw with an alt and start doing low level plexes and presto you get a fight... and more often then not its solo pvp...
The best fights I've ever had were... all ganks. Heh. But ganks of shiny stuff, a Cynabal and and a Tengu, and in which my main contribution was my having activated a warp disruptor in a timely manner.
But I get lots of solo pvp and I get it every time I fly into FW space. Just look: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Kuehnelt . It's all (atm.) Involved party: 1. Eh, and only five carebear kills. Granted that it's all small stuff, but that's what I fly. |
III ZiggyBang
One Point 0
1
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Posted - 2012.09.13 07:36:00 -
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Russell Casey wrote:Alice Saki wrote:Babar Baboli wrote:There are plenty of solo-action in Factional Warfare. Chasing Warp Stabbed Frigs is not Solo Pvp..... No, it's interrupting someone else's PvE and "hard work" and you should be ashamed of yourself for wanting to force your playstyle on them.
troll harder f u c k 0 |
baltec1
Bat Country
2128
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Posted - 2012.09.13 11:49:00 -
[103] - Quote
Zera Kerrigan wrote:Yeah I agree. There should be some kind of scaling mechanism. If your opponent or enemy is stronger/better that you, you should get scaled up so that they have no chance against you. Ofcourse then the same would happen to him and it goes on forever but nevermind that.
Horrible idea. |
Gorinia Sanford
Sons of Russ
54
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Posted - 2012.09.13 15:15:00 -
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Commander Predator wrote:make the game better ccp... like... press the restart button and go back to dark ages and ill come back but As my last thing to do before i quit for good ive been spending my isk on ridiculous battleships and going around suicide pvping them. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14591648http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14571216http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14600440in every instance so far as my last test of "JUst for ***** and giggles" there has been at least 1 logi and / or Falcon in a fleet much outnumbering myself now obviously i got around 90m sp and my fit is worth about 2 billion, so a fair fight would be at least 3 or 4 average battleships vrs me or 7 or 8 bc's vrs me, so i wasnt expecting any 1 v 1's.... but everything in this game is now just numbers game but whatever im not the last to go for this reason.
Please dial 1-800-CRYBABY to lodge your complaint. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2416
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Posted - 2012.09.13 15:34:00 -
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Commander Predator wrote:Roime wrote:No, it doesn't prove anything besides that you are a frustrated attention ***** who rage quits because EVE is ~hard~
no no good sir eve is by no means hard, i figured it out at 12 years old. how hard could it be you just get lots of numbers and press f1 right?
This, in 2 short sentences, explains everything.
There are a great many people to think exactly the same way.
You will find them all listed frequently in the victim column of any killboard. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
ShenanigansBus
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
32
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Posted - 2012.09.13 15:35:00 -
[106] - Quote
So you: Hate ECM Hate Hunting Hate being ganged up on
If you're willing not to cry every time you get ganged up on... RvB is a very viable option. Although the bigger the ship you bring the more people that will try to gang up on it...
Seriously though, give RvB a try. Accept the fact that you are going to have to provide the good fights for yourself by managing engagements (doesn't look like you're trying atm). This is one thing a lot of people join RvB and then cry/rage quit over, YOU must make sure that YOU get good fights, or what you determine to be good fights. Also, being a **** often results in instakick (directed at everyone). |
Jack Miton
Bite Me inc Elysian Empire
569
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Posted - 2012.09.13 15:38:00 -
[107] - Quote
can i have your stuff? |
Alice Saki
6090
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Posted - 2012.09.13 16:09:00 -
[108] - Quote
Almost had solo pvp last night, then the guy logged on his Alt.... :| typical :P Scottish Interweb Spaceshippy Person, Very Easily Confused. I like to show my Love by Smashing people in the face with a big Hammer.
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highonpop
Eve Liberation Force Fatal Ascension
281
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Posted - 2012.09.13 16:47:00 -
[109] - Quote
wait wait wait.....
a dude from suddenly spaceships is talking about solo pvp being dead?
I was going to troll this thread, but that is WIN enough for me
http://www.soundboard.com/sb/Very%20best%20of%20Makalu%20Zarya
R.I.P Vile Rat http://evemaps.dotlan.net/live/Outpost/Rename/2012-09-12 |
Dust Rocket
The Dead Pod Society
0
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Posted - 2012.09.13 17:30:00 -
[110] - Quote
I didnt want to reply to this thread here, but i do it anyhow. Saying u cant solo in battleship is bullshit, but most of your fights have to be on gate or station where u can deaggro and dock/jump. If you see logi deaggro call your drones and go away or pull some of them on otherside of the gate. Falcons yeah if you have chance send your drones on them but in most cases they too far. Up side is they help u deaggro.
Other thing what ruins this game is killmails. Most new peeps are so consearned about the killratio like someone here mentioned 4:1 blah blah??? What does it really matters if i had fun. Probably someone looks up my killboard and says man u suck, only noob kills and expencive losses etc. Well i had fun making em km and i dont run around like madman who needs to show 10 km or more to stay in corp. I play this game when i want and how i want.
So i say Predator dont go away just yet as told go RvB i have heared good things about them. Have to say not participated myself tho.
And people are affraid to even talk to attackers in most my reasent kills i would of left them alive and let leave id they would of sayed anything. They just silently shruged it out and died.
Stay eve is fun. Even solo. Get a corp where there are not many rules and regulations one of them layed back ones and you may find someone who wants to be your wingmate and 2 rohk team rules most gatecamps logi or not.
Best regards DR
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Vertisce Soritenshi
Tactical Vendor of Services and Goods Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
1728
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Posted - 2012.09.13 17:33:00 -
[111] - Quote
Solo PVP? Who cares? I think the OP is missing the "MM" part of "MMORPG". EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! |
Karl Planck
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
243
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Posted - 2012.09.13 17:55:00 -
[112] - Quote
i get solo pew all the time. OP is being ******** with his method of finding fights if he things that a bs is the proper engagement vessel for those areas. If you going to do it, at least do it right and get in a nightmare ffs.
anyway, posting in a fail QQ thread. See you in a few months. Low-sec Best-sec |
Corwain
Tea And Sympathy Ltd. Liability Reckless Ambition
2
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Posted - 2012.09.13 18:25:00 -
[113] - Quote
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Solo PVP? Who cares? I think the OP is missing the "MM" part of "MMORPG".
Massive refers to the EVE universe, not every single fight that occurs there. RL is huge, and yet duels and assassinations have changed the course of history and probably will continue to do so long after we are dead. That's what all the pilots that can't press F1 F2 without daddy giving em the reach around will never understand. |
Dervinus
Freelance Wealth Redistribution Specialists
89
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Posted - 2012.09.13 18:42:00 -
[114] - Quote
M8 solo pvp is not dead. I solo pvp a few days a week and always find fights. I die 9/10 times because Im a baddie, but I definitely get fights. You are doing it wrong. maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaateeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
148
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Posted - 2012.09.13 19:00:00 -
[115] - Quote
The ironic thing here is that there are so many rich boys with high sp clones flying around in bling fits that no one is going to take any chances. A solo bs in lo sec looking for a fight is almost certainly on steroids these days so anyone would be an idiot to engage one "fairly". Don't even get me started on blinged up 100Mn tengus/legions etc. Plus there is the ever present hot drop issue.
So really any sensible person faced with a maelstrom picking a fight in lo sec will either ignore it or blob up enough to overwhelm its crystal asb leet tank before it kill severyone or drops a cyno. |
Commander Predator
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
18
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Posted - 2012.09.13 21:32:00 -
[116] - Quote
man i trolled so many people
this thread is a win in my book |
Hauling Hal
The Black Ops Black Core Alliance
90
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Posted - 2012.09.13 21:37:00 -
[117] - Quote
1v1 PvP?
Online chess. |
Soulpirate
Bedrock Industrial
207
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Posted - 2012.09.13 21:50:00 -
[118] - Quote
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Solo PVP? Who cares? I think the OP is missing the "MM" part of "MMORPG". Massively Multiplayer means simply that it's a large game world with a lot of people playing in it. They could all be playing solo or in a single team, either way it's still an MMOG.
People who think MMO means you have to be teamed up boggle my mind. |
Turgesson
Five-0 Suddenly Spaceships.
6
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Posted - 2012.09.13 22:23:00 -
[119] - Quote
I went somewhere and did something that didn't work so something must be wrong with this game. |
Mars Theran
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
280
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Posted - 2012.09.14 02:08:00 -
[120] - Quote
Dust Rocket wrote:I didnt want to reply to this thread here, but i do it anyhow. Saying u cant solo in battleship is bullshit, but most of your fights have to be on gate or station where u can deaggro and dock/jump. If you see logi deaggro call your drones and go away or pull some of them on otherside of the gate. Falcons yeah if you have chance send your drones on them but in most cases they too far. Up side is they help u deaggro.
Other thing what ruins this game is killmails. Most new peeps are so consearned about the killratio like someone here mentioned 4:1 blah blah??? What does it really matters if i had fun. Probably someone looks up my killboard and says man u suck, only noob kills and expencive losses etc. Well i had fun making em km and i dont run around like madman who needs to show 10 km or more to stay in corp. I play this game when i want and how i want.
So i say Predator dont go away just yet as told go RvB i have heared good things about them. Have to say not participated myself tho.
And people are affraid to even talk to attackers in most my reasent kills i would of left them alive and let leave id they would of sayed anything. They just silently shruged it out and died.
Stay eve is fun. Even solo. Get a corp where there are not many rules and regulations one of them layed back ones and you may find someone who wants to be your wingmate and 2 rohk team rules most gatecamps logi or not.
Best regards DR
Yes.. station games. ..solo pvp... I have deleted and cleared my signature 7 times and it still won't go away. |
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SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
539
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Posted - 2012.09.14 03:03:00 -
[121] - Quote
Battleships really aren't the best soloboats because you have absolutely no ability to escape or disengage. You should really be looking at a ASB'd vagabond or even a BC/Command ship. Maybe a Cynabal or a T3 if you aren't dumb.
I don't have much cachet with the solo pvp thing, but I know after taking down a rather notorious one in our space, a quick copy of his fitting and I was fighting down a loki and a few assault frigs in nothing more special than a Vagabond. The strength of the fit is at all times I could dictate the engagement range and even if it was happening. None of those fits you died in show any ability to do that. |
Dennis Gregs
Dawn of Fire
65
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Posted - 2012.09.14 03:07:00 -
[122] - Quote
EVE is more than just a game (in the theme park definition), it's a virtual world (sandbox). Just like in real life, the majority of people will do whatever is more effective to survive in this virtual world. The "solo pvp" you're trying to find is like roaming outside in real life to find 1v1 gunfights and not expecting to get gangbanged, or the cops putting you down shortly thereafter. The only thing you can do is adapt. |
Pinkamena Diane-Pie
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2012.09.14 04:59:00 -
[123] - Quote
I know exactly how you feel OP. Me and my friend do exclusively solo PvP (rarely duo), usually we go on our solo roams without getting a kill. People can say it is player skill and anything along those lines, but honestly it isn't. I understand it does take some skill to solo PvP effectively but getting killed by a much larger group, or one with a Falcon is inevitable and no amount of skill will prevent it from happening.
For now, I continue to roam as I do have fun, but It does get frustrating at times when I go a week without seeing a good fight (regardless if I win or lose).
And for the ones scolding the OP for roaming in a BS, try reading better in the future. He clearly said he was roaming in expensive BS's only to dump his isk.
Good luck with your future endeavors, good to see other real solo PvP'ers exist. |
Astroniomix
Thorn Project
180
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Posted - 2012.09.14 05:33:00 -
[124] - Quote
Pinkamena Diane-Pie wrote:
And for the ones scolding the OP for roaming in a BS, try reading better in the future. He clearly said he was roaming in expensive BS's only to dump his isk.
Then he shouldn't complain about getting blueballed.
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Nyla Skin
Maximum fun chamber
82
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Posted - 2012.09.14 05:54:00 -
[125] - Quote
Yolanta Geezenstack wrote:It always astonishes me that people who claim to not care about anything anymore, do announce this in a public forum.
People's opinions matter to them, so they make them heard.
I also agree with the OT. Eve pvp hasn't been fun in years, if it ever was. |
Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
199
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Posted - 2012.09.14 06:40:00 -
[126] - Quote
Gank beats Tank. Always did. There is just way more gank now than Tank. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg-_HeVNYOk
Save Derpy! |
Imigo Montoya
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
38
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Posted - 2012.09.14 06:51:00 -
[127] - Quote
Commander Predator wrote:man i trolled so many people
this thread is a win in my book
Now where have I heard that one before? Oh that's right, here. |
Commander Predator
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
22
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Posted - 2012.09.14 21:43:00 -
[128] - Quote
Pinkamena Diane-Pie wrote:I know exactly how you feel OP. Me and my friend do exclusively solo PvP (rarely duo), usually we go on our solo roams without getting a kill. People can say it is player skill and anything along those lines, but honestly it isn't. I understand it does take some skill to solo PvP effectively but getting killed by a much larger group, or one with a Falcon is inevitable and no amount of skill will prevent it from happening.
For now, I continue to roam as I do have fun, but It does get frustrating at times when I go a week without seeing a good fight (regardless if I win or lose).
And for the ones scolding the OP for roaming in a BS, try reading better in the future. He clearly said he was roaming in expensive BS's only to dump his isk.
Good luck with your future endeavors, good to see other real solo PvP'ers exist.
hey look someone who actually reads....
Yeah i dont know how this thread came to be about my fit/ship choice etc etc... regardless of shiptype/fit... those same fights were going to happen
Astroniomix wrote: Then he shouldn't complain about getting blueballed.
perhaps you dont know what blueballed means |
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