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Commander Predator
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2012.09.12 08:53:00 -
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make the game better ccp... like... press the restart button and go back to dark ages and ill come back but
As my last thing to do before i quit for good ive been spending my isk on ridiculous battleships and going around suicide pvping them.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14591648
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14571216
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14600440
in every instance so far as my last test of "JUst for ***** and giggles" there has been at least 1 logi and / or Falcon in a fleet much outnumbering myself
now obviously i got around 90m sp and my fit is worth about 2 billion, so a fair fight would be at least 3 or 4 average battleships vrs me or 7 or 8 bc's vrs me, so i wasnt expecting any 1 v 1's....
but everything in this game is now just numbers game
but whatever im not the last to go for this reason. |
Alice Saki
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Posted - 2012.09.12 08:59:00 -
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I feel you... I find it hard to go out Solo now adays, Its either a falcon uncloaks, a Blob or Links....
and I use none.... Scottish Interweb Spaceshippy Person, Very Easily Confused. I like to show my Love by Smashing people in the face with a big Hammer.
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Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:00:00 -
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You are bad at hunting for solo pilots and reading the situation for traps, then. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
William Walker
House Aratus Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:07:00 -
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Take some friends with you next time. |
Sabrina Solette
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:09:00 -
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Alice Saki wrote:I feel you...
Isn't there a law against that? |
Written Word
Written Word's Tax Haven
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:10:00 -
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Go play WoW instead if you think having your shipfit and your skillpoints should translate to any sort of PvP success. |
Commander Predator
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:10:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:You are bad at hunting for solo pilots and reading the situation for traps, then.
obviously i realised i was gonna die in each fight.... since im quitting my meter of care is at 0%...
however i didnt realise a falcon was going to decloak and perma jam me for 10 minutes while i die slowly...
also ... i really just dont wanna "hunt" i guess, my problem yah... but back in the day finding good fights was easy occurance, and it was EXTREMELY rare they would 3 out of 3 times always have a falcon or logi
everybody flies in fleets now because the new people mentality is "If i dont fly in fleets with logi or ecm im going to die" so now pretty much literally every fleet has one ship that makes solo pvp impossible... in all of these occurences, subtract the logi or falcon from the fight and add another bs or bc, their whole fleet, or at least half, was dead before i was.
but anyhow... was a few years of fun |
Commander Predator
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:11:00 -
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William Walker wrote:Take some friends with you next time.
yeah i had alot of friends but at least 90% of them have quit for similar reasons, i dont feel like making new ones
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baltec1
Bat Country
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:13:00 -
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Funny thing here is that my iteron V is a better solo hunter than the OP |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:14:00 -
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as noone said it just yet.. ur stuff... can I hazz it?!? |
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Commander Predator
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:14:00 -
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Written Word wrote:Go play WoW instead if you think having your shipfit and your skillpoints should translate to any sort of PvP success.
maybe you didnt read the part where i said im quitting? i dont know....
also it isnt only shipfit/skillpoints, its that and 6 or 7 years of experience in the game so i mean take what you want from that, like i said, every instance linked above, shipfit/skillpoints and the ability to press f1 would have sufficed minus the gay ships that every fleet nowadays has.
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William Walker
House Aratus Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:14:00 -
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Commander Predator wrote:William Walker wrote:Take some friends with you next time. yeah i had alot of friends but at least 90% of them have quit for similar reasons, i dont feel like making new ones
Well then it will be a lonely life indeed in EVE. Can I have your stuff before you go? Or just some cash? You'd gain a friend!
oh wait.. |
Commander Predator
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:15:00 -
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Eugene Kerner wrote:as noone said it just yet.. ur stuff... can I hazz it?!?
sure if you catch me in the last few suicide runs in the coming days |
Alice Saki
5820
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:17:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:You are bad at hunting for solo pilots and reading the situation for traps, then.
...Its not that simple, You spend hours roaming.... then say **** it and engage a trap just out boredum Scottish Interweb Spaceshippy Person, Very Easily Confused. I like to show my Love by Smashing people in the face with a big Hammer.
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Commander Predator
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:20:00 -
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Alice Saki wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:You are bad at hunting for solo pilots and reading the situation for traps, then. ...Its not that simple, You spend hours roaming.... then say **** it and engage a trap just out boredum
lol ^^
this thread is a great example
out of the 30 or 40 views so far, only 1 other person has shared similar mindsets to mine... i just lack the "Give a ****" meter atm to hunt and use alts like i use to |
Roime
Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance
1170
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:21:00 -
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We have a guy in corp whose motherboard audio is broken atm so he can't join us on TS, so he just soloes
Gets kills every time he's logged on
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
Mars Theran
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:21:00 -
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There are much cheaper ways to find solo PvP, even though they end about the same way. That said, they end about the same way; which is both for and against your argument.
Of all the frickin things to fly, why did you choose a Tier 3 Battleship for Solo PvP? They're basically big, slow buffer tanks with limited DPS. Either they are long range with no tracking, or they're short range with no Optimal. If they're short range, you can't get close enough to DPS, and if they're long, you can't hit a Cruiser.
Also, they don't really have any bonuses worth noting for the trouble of training them or paying for them.
Tier 3 BS = POS Bashing tool for bored pilots, or Fleet Long Bombardment with a high buffer, or Fleet short Brawler with moderate DPS on Battleships provided it has the means to get in range with a warp in point or plenty of distractions.
Not much else they are good for aside from sniping which isn't to common these days, and only helpful in a small gang when nobody expects it.
Other reasons not to fly Tier 3 BS:
No Capacitor Poor Align time No effective Active Tank Not enough Buffer fitting for their size No passive Tank Low DPS for their quantity of guns Tier 3 Battle Cruisers There's more...
My experience anyway. Putting 2 Billion ISK in fittings on it doesn't make it better, it just makes it look bad next to other ships that put 2 Billion in fittings on. I have deleted and cleared my signature 7 times and it still won't go away. |
Zloco Crendraven
BALKAN EXPRESS
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:23:00 -
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There is like 10 times more ppl now than those "golden ages" and ppl have lots more skill (can fly different ships logi, Ewar) What did u expect?
U chose wrong ship and wrong place. Take smth fast go in null, u ll find plenty of target and will be able to kite/kill.
U took a fockin BS and went around places where u know blobs are around. |
Roime
Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance
1170
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:24:00 -
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Mars don't worry about it,
some people as just wired so that when they lose, it's either the game's fault, or others are unfair.
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
Commander Predator
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:26:00 -
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Mars Theran wrote:There are much cheaper ways to find solo PvP, even though they end about the same way. That said, they end about the same way; which is both for and against your argument.
Of all the frickin things to fly, why did you choose a Tier 3 Battleship for Solo PvP? They're basically big, slow buffer tanks with limited DPS. Either they are long range with no tracking, or they're short range with no Optimal. If they're short range, you can't get close enough to DPS, and if they're long, you can't hit a Cruiser.
Also, they don't really have any bonuses worth noting for the trouble of training them or paying for them.
Tier 3 BS = POS Bashing tool for bored pilots, or Fleet Long Bombardment with a high buffer, or Fleet short Brawler with moderate DPS on Battleships provided it has the means to get in range with a warp in point or plenty of distractions.
Not much else they are good for aside from sniping which isn't to common these days, and only helpful in a small gang when nobody expects it.
Other reasons not to fly Tier 3 BS:
No Capacitor Poor Align time No effective Active Tank Not enough Buffer fitting for their size No passive Tank Low DPS for their quantity of guns Tier 3 Battle Cruisers There's more...
My experience anyway. Putting 2 Billion ISK in fittings on it doesn't make it better, it just makes it look bad next to other ships that put 2 Billion in fittings on.
yeah i know all of this, and thats what ive been trying for a long time before i decided to quit and say **** it
i chose battleships because i like them, they tank fairly well, and i can hit cruisers fine, hardwiring, lvl 5 skills and all -.- and a general understanding of tranversal velocity...
but it was more just of a **** it attitude and just spending my isk before i quit is why i chose what i chose i wasnt neccessarily looking to win, but it proves the point... solo pvp is dead...
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Roime
Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance
1170
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:35:00 -
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No, it doesn't prove anything besides that you are a frustrated attention ***** who rage quits because EVE is ~hard~
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
Commander Predator
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:38:00 -
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Roime wrote:No, it doesn't prove anything besides that you are a frustrated attention ***** who rage quits because EVE is ~hard~
no no good sir eve is by no means hard, i figured it out at 12 years old. how hard could it be
you just get lots of numbers and press f1 right? |
Roime
Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance
1170
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:43:00 -
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Looks like even that is too hard for you.
Sorry, better luck in some other game!
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
Kryss Darkdust
The Skulls
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:47:00 -
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I think the point here is that Eve Online is an MMO. Not saying that Solo play doesn't have some purpose in the game, but in as a whole I don't see what CCP could or should do to cater to people who play an Online game by design from the ground up to be a team oriented game. I mean we have corporations, alliances, fleet mechanics.... each ship has a specific purpose designed to be part of a whole... how many hints do you need before you understand that Solo anything is always going to be a second class citizen in this game.
Its a team game... find a team.
The reality of Eve is that, if you don't love it like it is today, you should probobly go ahead and unsub.-á |
Commander Predator
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:50:00 -
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Roime wrote:Looks like even that is too hard for you.
Sorry, better luck in some other game!
i fail to see where you get pressing f1 is too hard for me
i mean i understand what your thinking and why you said it, but logically it makes no sense to me, your obviously just a little dumbed down in the brain.
maybe you fail to understand because i was lazy and didnt explain it in the dumbed down version...
I say **** it and fit ridiculous ship... i roam through many systems for about an hour, not finding a single solo person anywhere or even a fleet.... finally find decent fleet... decent fleet quickly becomes bigger fleet no big deal... bigger fleet calls in logis or falcon or both every time...
I can say i dont give a **** about the isk and have evidence to prove that as much as i want, but the response from almost everybody in some way shape or form is simply "Umadbro?" without even understanding the post. |
Roime
Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance
1170
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:56:00 -
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So you intentionally fly out to lose shitfits, and claim that it somehow proves that solo PvP is dead? Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
Commander Predator
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:56:00 -
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Kryss Darkdust wrote:I think the point here is that Eve Online is an MMO. Not saying that Solo play doesn't have some purpose in the game, but in as a whole I don't see what CCP could or should do to cater to people who play an Online game by design from the ground up to be a team oriented game. I mean we have corporations, alliances, fleet mechanics.... each ship has a specific purpose designed to be part of a whole... how many hints do you need before you understand that Solo anything is always going to be a second class citizen in this game.
Its a team game... find a team.
oh i know this as well, this is just the end. im not saying i didnt use to go around in fleets and kill stuff in the past.. but even in fleet vrs fleet warfare, this game is all about who has the bigger fleet. skill has an impact of course, but significantly less and less all the time.
current mechanics of the game require alliances to be in giant napfests, and have more numbers than the other guy, thats all it is anymore which is fine i guess, but CCP catering to the old type of gameplay isnt going to happen, hence why i said if they fix it ill come back, but their not going to fix it, so its a metaphor in a twisted dumb way of saying im not coming back.
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Rellik B00n
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:58:00 -
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I understand you OP.
I have been around since 2006 and the game has changed many times over the years.
My advice (without resorting to meme) would be to move with the times.
I havent logged in for anything except skill changes for about 6 weeks BUT for when i do get the Eve urge I have cunningly joined RvB. This at least gives me my own blob and a group of players looking to just have good fights.
Also if you are going to quit just quit. No one responding here is ever going to offer any sympathy which simply turns your situation into a self-fulfilling one. When CCP do the end of year accounts they will notice player count rises and falls and take the appropraite action.
solo pvp may come round again and if it ever does ill be there doing it qfmjt-1 |
Commander Predator
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2012.09.12 10:01:00 -
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Roime wrote:So you intentionally fly out to lose shitfits, and claim that it somehow proves that solo PvP is dead?
well i wouldnt say shitfits, the fit worked great and did lots of damage and coulda tore through any of the ships in all fleets 1 v 1, or even 1 v 5 without logi or falcon, unfortunatley logis rep more than one person so yeah... i intentionally go out and lose ships, may as well spend the isk i have before sub runs out right?
solo pvp might not be dead... but its definetley way to low of a pulse to be considered going strong...
piracy is also dead, which is was usually a form of solo or small fleet, yeah theres -10.0's out there but that doesnt mean that person is a pirate, i havent seen anyone or heard of anyone getting ransomed in a long time, or lonely miners get ganked or anything, piracy is just dead
basically all the things i use to love to do in this game the first few years i played are dead or dieing or take way to much effort for the minute or two of entertainment. |
Commander Predator
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2012.09.12 10:03:00 -
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Rellik B00n wrote:I understand you OP. I have been around since 2006 and the game has changed many times over the years. My advice (without resorting to meme) would be to move with the times. I havent logged in for anything except skill changes for about 6 weeks BUT for when i do get the Eve urge I have cunningly joined RvB. This at least gives me my own blob and a group of players looking to just have good fights. Also if you are going to quit just quit. No one responding here is ever going to offer any sympathy which simply turns your situation into a self-fulfilling one. When CCP do the end of year accounts they will notice player count rises and falls and take the appropraite action. solo pvp may come round again and if it ever does ill be there doing it
yeah the post was asking for trolls lol
figured id go out with a few bangs and some last bit of "smack talk" before going away. |
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