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Psyentific
Caldari PrecipiceGames
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:54:00 -
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Worst final ever?
HAH!
Best TWO finals ever. Hydra won both of the finals, so they won first and second place. Just ignore the real finals. There ya go. But glittering prizes and endless compromises shatter the illusion of integrity. |

Roosterton
Internet SpaceCraft Raiding Fleet
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:56:00 -
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Edited by: Roosterton on 19/06/2011 22:58:24
Originally by: Fuamnach Yes, both teams won. It's EVE that lost.

Based on how many people are laughing in this thread instead of crying, you're just utterly incorrect. -------- Enemy corps raided into disbandment: Three.
Originally by: Tarminic
OH MY GOD WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!
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Zukov1
Caldari Evil Objects In Space The Jagged Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:57:00 -
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ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD!!!
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Leetah Stormbringerr
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:59:00 -
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Originally by: Roosterton
Originally by: Fuamnach Yes, both teams won. It's EVE that lost.

Based on how many people who are laughing in this thread instead of crying, you're just utterly incorrect.
Let me lend you my fingers and toes so you can count the ones that said this final was a waste of their time and won't be watching again... I think you'll see they out number the sycophants by quite some amount... 
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Mermalior
Caldari Jugis Modo Utopia Bang Bang You're Dead
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:01:00 -
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Without fair play any tournament is a joke.
There weren't any winner of this event, but I'm sure that CCP lost the match. They can explain to their sponsors, and the new players what is AT about.
o7 ------------------------------- This game is about the people |

Nika Dekaia
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:01:00 -
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There is nothing CCP can do about such things. It's how Eve is. But just as the highest comodity in Eve is your reputation, this finale and the two corps involved will go down as dishonourable in eve alliance tournament history.
No matter how well they fought during the tournament - they will always be what people bring up as the very low of alliance tournament finals.
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Lykouleon
Wildly Inappropriate Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:03:00 -
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My hat goes off to you Garmon. You have done that which many men have strived to do...you have trolled the entire game.
o7 Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER SO THAT I CAN HIT THEM WITH MY SWORD |

Ivan Jakanov
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:08:00 -
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There should be more rules in place to prevent people from giving away the win, like in dodgeball how there's a time limit when you pick up the ball that you need to throw it in 5 seconds or so. Make it so they must keep fighting if they can, they can't just sell out and give it up half way through by not doing the damage they could be doing. I suppose then the problem would be how could they enforce that rule and make it so that they can really tell who's trying to throw the match and who's just making bad target calling decisions. I was certain that Outbreak had the match in the bag when they still had all their ships intact with HYDRA RELOADED down to just a few ships, but then it seemed like they stopped doing damage and then just let their ships get blown up by one of the vindicators when Outbreak somehow managed to tank all three in the beginning. "It may be staged a little bit" lol bull****, staged a lot maybe. |

Mermalior
Caldari Jugis Modo Utopia Bang Bang You're Dead
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:11:00 -
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Anyway I missed the congaline from the final. I'd pay for it for both teams. About 1500 ISK, because I'm metagamer aswell. |

Jos Wijnants
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:14:00 -
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Why does CCP don,t respond on these kind of post ,but only the ***licking ones |
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Tech two
UK1 Zero
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:17:00 -
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Originally by: Jos Wijnants Why does CCP don,t respond on these kind of post ,but only the ***licking ones
because its just tears from people who have no idea. |

Kagumichan
Degenerate Corp Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: Jos Wijnants Why does CCP don,t respond on these kind of post ,but only the ***licking ones
Because they don't want to listen to whining little kids crying because they didn't get what they wanted.
You got to watch this stuff FOR FREE, it probably cost CCP a lot of money so you could see this FOR FREE (and you get your expansion packs FOR FREE!), so stop being so selfish, geez! These guys deserve their props, they do more for their community than ANY other games company in the entire world. |

Jos Wijnants
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:26:00 -
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Originally by: Tech two
Originally by: Jos Wijnants Why does CCP don,t respond on these kind of post ,but only the ***licking ones
because its just tears from people who have no idea.
Indeed tears yes you are right sir. BC of the level this tournament is downgraded and therefore CCP is also,with giving us high expectations on this rigged event. Sure there is always a chance some of the tournament battles are rigged but the final match come on. shame for the tournaments i think. but i have no idea right?you have ,sir?
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Fireglade
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:35:00 -
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Wonder how CCP is going to get sponsorprices to spread out next year.
It would be nice to hear an official oppinion from CCP.
If they endorse this kind of thing, i think their partners should know about it before they throw laptops and graphicscards at them for free.
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JEK3
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:40:00 -
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Originally by: Roosterton Edited by: Roosterton on 19/06/2011 22:58:24
Originally by: Fuamnach Yes, both teams won. It's EVE that lost.

Based on how many people are laughing in this thread instead of crying, you're just utterly incorrect.
Based on the fact that 1 satisfied customer can just continue to buy, 1 unsatisfied customer can stop buying, you are utterly incorrect.
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Telvani
Crouching Woman Hidden Cucumber
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:41:00 -
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List of Best finals ever:
PL v Hydra
PL V darkside
Darkside V Outbreak
Hydra V Razor
...and they were all this year.
This was easily the best alliance tournament ever, its left its infancy, until this AT PL was the only team playing the tourney professionally. Now there are so many teams that are playing all aspects of the AT to a top-notch level. Hydra doing spectacularly this year.
Now go back to your level 4 missions and remain quietly ignorant of this game.
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Raimo
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:44:00 -
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Originally by: Telvani List of Best finals ever:
PL v Hydra
PL V darkside
Darkside V Outbreak
Hydra V Razor
...and they were all this year.
This was easily the best alliance tournament ever, its left its infancy, until this AT PL was the only team playing the tourney professionally. Now there are so many teams that are playing all aspects of the AT to a top-notch level. Hydra doing spectacularly this year.
Now go back to your level 4 missions and remain quietly ignorant of this game.
Nice that someone gets it ;) ----------
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Jos Wijnants
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:46:00 -
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Originally by: Telvani List of Best finals ever:
PL v Hydra
PL V darkside
Darkside V Outbreak
Hydra V Razor
...and they were all this year.
This was easily the best alliance tournament ever, its left its infancy, until this AT PL was the only team playing the tourney professionally. Now there are so many teams that are playing all aspects of the AT to a top-notch level. Hydra doing spectacularly this year.
Now go back to your level 4 missions and remain quietly ignorant of this game.
Sir you are correct,that were fine matches,can,t disagree with that. except for the most important one ,the real final AT match
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Enik3
Crimson Empire. Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:47:00 -
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OK, so for people that were not watching -- what happened that has everyone so ticked off?
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Fireglade
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:47:00 -
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Originally by: Raimo
Originally by: Telvani List of Best finals ever:
PL v Hydra
PL V darkside
Darkside V Outbreak
Hydra V Razor
...and they were all this year.
This was easily the best alliance tournament ever, its left its infancy, until this AT PL was the only team playing the tourney professionally. Now there are so many teams that are playing all aspects of the AT to a top-notch level. Hydra doing spectacularly this year.
Now go back to your level 4 missions and remain quietly ignorant of this game.
Nice that someone gets it ;)
I'm not aware if you have read this, but your own Amber Saint just apologized for making CCP look like idiots, for ****ting all over the concept of the tournament.
You should talk to that guy... here is his post, read it and be ashamed. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1531508
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Deja Thoris
Invicta. Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:49:00 -
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CCP should troll the finalists like the viewers got trolled and leave it in the hands of the community as to what prize they get :D
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JEK3
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:50:00 -
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Edited by: JEK3 on 19/06/2011 23:51:05
Originally by: Fireglade Wonder how CCP is going to get sponsorprices to spread out next year.
It would be nice to hear an official oppinion from CCP.
If they endorse this kind of thing, i think their partners should know about it before they throw laptops and graphicscards at them for free.[/quote
Well, I don't think CCP will endorse that, but my take is that next year it will be though to get such cool sponsors... and free laptops.. Thank you Hydra!!
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Xyolon
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:57:00 -
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Originally by: Raimo
Originally by: Telvani List of Best finals ever:
PL v Hydra
PL V darkside
Darkside V Outbreak
Hydra V Razor
...and they were all this year.
This was easily the best alliance tournament ever, its left its infancy, until this AT PL was the only team playing the tourney professionally. Now there are so many teams that are playing all aspects of the AT to a top-notch level. Hydra doing spectacularly this year.
Now go back to your level 4 missions and remain quietly ignorant of this game.
Nice that someone gets it ;)
Get what? I didn't watch the final but if it was really set up (and according to your comment it was) then people comparing the tournament to the world cup finals are correct: although the games leading up to the final are interesting it is the final game that really counts. Which you sold according to comments. This pretty much kills the meaning of having a tournament so I pretty much understand people saying they won't watch the next tournament. I won't either. You make a clear tournament: I might watch it, hell I might even apply to it. You sell the tournament: you corrupted people can make a private party of yours and give out prizes or whatever you want, we couldn't care less.
Oh, and CSMs. They are the real disappointments of this discussion. |

Guttripper
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.06.20 00:00:00 -
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After reading numerous replies that this is how Eve really is - especially from the ~hard core~ PVP members, I have to disagree...
Outbreak should have destroyed Hydra and then announced how their deal with Hydra is now null and void. Hydra is NOT getting a slice of the winnings of first place, and "Oh yea - thanks for all the help along the way suckers!"
That is Eve - backstabbing, manipulation, and outright thievery.
But that ending, and the various supportive replies just tells an outsider that the cold, harsh gaming universe is more "Hello Kitty" than ever.
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Swynet
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.06.20 00:11:00 -
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Why the hek people discuss politics they don't have a clue?
Ok, every one with two eyes opened not being blind, with half of it's brains active and even drunk saw all the meta game and arrangements here and there witch all agree, wasted a lot of stuff about the tournament or frustrated some of us waiting great fights.
Now you can't blah blah about CCP for giving their personal time to offer all of us this direct show, investing $$ and also to the official commentators ( ) trying to share with all people playing/watching the game this passion we should share.
I had lots of fun watching those matches, hearing the comments and jokes between the power blocks leaders and CCP, hearing and learning stuff about eve/dust directly from CCP dev's and so should you. -internets for U at CCP eh  Yeah the end was frustrating, I was expecting a hell of a futk!ng match that didn't happened, but it's ok, I still had lots of fun.
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Fireglade
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Posted - 2011.06.20 00:20:00 -
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Edited by: Fireglade on 20/06/2011 00:22:15 Edited by: Fireglade on 20/06/2011 00:21:04
Originally by: Swynet Why the hek people discuss politics they don't have a clue?
Ok, every one with two eyes opened not being blind, with half of it's brains active and even drunk saw all the meta game and arrangements here and there witch all agree, wasted a lot of stuff about the tournament or frustrated some of us waiting great fights.
Now you can't blah blah about CCP for giving their personal time to offer all of us this direct show, investing $$ and also to the official commentators ( ) trying to share with all people playing/watching the game this passion we should share.
I had lots of fun watching those matches, hearing the comments and jokes between the power blocks leaders and CCP, hearing and learning stuff about eve/dust directly from CCP dev's and so should you. -internets for U at CCP eh  Yeah the end was frustrating, I was expecting a hell of a futk!ng match that didn't happened, but it's ok, I still had lots of fun.
Yep, but next year, im not gonna bother, cause this is only fun because of the setting its in. Its a sports event, a tournament. Who wins, how do they win, were they good, were they lucky, why did 1 setup beat the other setup etc. etc.
Now i know that a lot of the games are rigged by metagaming, this is not pitching 2 teams in an arena and only 1 comes out anymore. It just got extremely boring. As a viewer i don't get to see how the metagaming was performed, how long, how hard, how many, etc. etc. so i don't get any entertainment from it, and therefore i don't give a rats ass.
What i do care about is what is presented before me, which is the fight, i can follow it, i can see it from start to finish, i can discuss it with others on equal terms as i saw the same thing they did, etc. etc.
As it is now, it really doesn't matter to talk about who was the better team, cause how many of these matches was rigged ?
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Kagumichan
Degenerate Corp Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2011.06.20 00:31:00 -
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Notice how everyone's *****ing about how Hydra and Outbreak did what they did and totally ignoring the fact that PL themselves openly admitted to attempting to metagame the whole thing themselves and no one is throwing hate at them? If you're gonna win tournaments, you need every weapon at your disposal. Then there's Wi., they were 'technically' a second Goonswarm Fed team at the end but no, that's ok, Goon can have two teams in the tourny (technically) because they lost and that makes it fair.
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AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.20 00:32:00 -
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Originally by: Fireglade You should talk to that guy... here is his post, read it and be ashamed. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1531508
That guy has it right (if he wasn't trolling.) It was a douchey thing to do. Just field identical setups and may the best pilots win.
Just because you earned the right to be lame doesn't mean you had to exercise that right.
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Cirroco Jones
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Posted - 2011.06.20 01:09:00 -
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No respect for skill, game or public. Call it metagaming all you like, it's still cheating. Shame on cheaters, shame on all who support that (especially csm), shame on ccp for allowing this on their official tournament. |

Roosterton
Internet SpaceCraft Raiding Fleet
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Posted - 2011.06.20 01:10:00 -
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Originally by: Leetah Stormbringerr
Originally by: Roosterton
Originally by: Fuamnach Yes, both teams won. It's EVE that lost.

Based on how many people who are laughing in this thread instead of crying, you're just utterly incorrect.
Let me lend you my fingers and toes so you can count the ones that said this final was a waste of their time and won't be watching again... I think you'll see they out number the sycophants by quite some amount... 
I could count every single post in this thread, OR I could just laugh, as you clearly do not "get" eve. I think I'll do the latter. -------- Enemy corps raided into disbandment: Three.
Originally by: Tarminic
OH MY GOD WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!
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