Originally by: Tarminic

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OH MY GOD WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!

Originally by: Karmakoma3245

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Congratulations Outbreak, droping your matches right until the finals, pathetic finals

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Originally by: CoKaine Addict

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Both outbreak and hydra should be banned from next tournament

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Originally by: Elendra Ragnek

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Sports teams get banned and fined for doing jumk like that

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Originally by: Drykor

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Great metagaming until the end.. that was boring as hell.

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Originally by: Marlona Sky

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ITT: People confuse disappointment with tears.

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Originally by: Guttripper

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I wonder what CCP ~really~ thinks about this final battle...?

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Originally by: Alexi Blue

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Worst AT yet.

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Originally by: Green Snot

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All that build up and all those matches, and it ends up in this farce!

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Originally by: ASIV TRE

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Originally by: Karmakoma3245

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Congratulations Outbreak, droping your matches right until the finals, pathetic finals

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Originally by: CoKaine Addict

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Both outbreak and hydra should be banned from next tournament

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Not only this. They should be banned from the CURRENT tournament as well. They should NOT receive the prices!

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Originally by: Gilbert Intaki

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I can't believe I turned down dinner with my gildfriend for this farce.
Waste of an otherwise good buildup for the past two weeks.

Bullcr*p!

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Originally by: Jovan Geldon

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ITT: WAAAH MY :E-HONOR: IS INSULTED BAN THIS SICK FILTH

Get a ****ing grip. This is *internet spaceships*, not the World Cup final. Jesus.

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Originally by: The Mittani

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I just want to congratulate Laedey to an amazing end to an amazing tournament! Great work!

(and thank you for this beautiful, beautiful thread full of sorrow~)

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Originally by: Lord Kazuhiro

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Honestly I too found it a bit odd that a team that had just wiped the floor with 80% of the enemy team with no losses (And almost no damage) could then lose the match horribly like that. I'm not calling staged, as I've seen weirder things happen in eve battles. But then they mentioned the oniros was RR the enemy team. That raised an eyebrow. Still it was entertaining, and if legit was a hell of a comeback.

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Originally by: Lord Kazuhiro

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Originally by: ASIV TRE

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Originally by: Karmakoma3245

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Congratulations Outbreak, droping your matches right until the finals, pathetic finals

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Originally by: CoKaine Addict

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Both outbreak and hydra should be banned from next tournament

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Not only this. They should be banned from the CURRENT tournament as well. They should NOT receive the prices!

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Don't worry, they won't receive the "prices" they will however receive the "prizes".

Honestly I too found it a bit odd that a team that had just wiped the floor with 80% of the enemy team with no losses (And almost no damage) could then lose the match horribly like that. I'm not calling staged, as I've seen weirder things happen in eve battles. But then they mentioned the oniros was RR the enemy team. That raised an eyebrow. Still it was entertaining, and if legit was a hell of a comeback.

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Originally by: Jovan Geldon

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Get a ****ing grip. This is *internet spaceships*, not the World Cup final. Jesus.

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Originally by: Vile rat

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Absolutely love this ending. Well done guys, congratulations on the victory!

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Originally by: realdognose

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Edited by: realdognose on 19/06/2011 22:09:29
i really think, that this was a fake!


...

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Originally by: Reilly Duvolle

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But after this, the ruleset needs to change before the next tourney. Because if THIS is whats going to happen, I am not gonna be arsed to stay up and watch. I'd rather just read about it in the forums the next day.

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Originally by: Cyno Zicke

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Originally by: Vile rat

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Absolutely love this ending. Well done guys, congratulations on the victory!

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we watched the same ??? i dont think so

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Originally by: ThrashPower

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a lot of mad in this thread

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Originally by: Kagumichan

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I'm gonna think outside the box and disagree with pretty much everyone saying this was bad.

We wanted a proper slugfest for the final match and that's what we got, Outbreak and Hydra went at it guns blazing and Outbreak won in the fight overall...

However Outbreak and Hydra are friends, and they've just shown the whole community that's it's not all about winning, it's about taking part, playing an online game with your friends and just having fun. The fact that Outbreak won the fight but let Hydra take the match was an amazing showing of friendship between the two that got me a little emotional 'cos it's rare nowadays to see people being so generous to each other.

So from me, +100, good on them for showing all these Eve trolls that's it's not about winning, it's about having fun! Loved the tournament, loved the commentators, was a bit bored of all the Minmatar ships but y'know, can't have everything ;)

Looking forward to next year :D

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Originally by: The Mittani

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There's no place safe in EVE from metagaming, especially not the AT, which is a delicious viper's nest of spying and deal-making.

You should make peace with that, or find a game where your cries of 'honor' will actually be listened to.

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Originally by: Marlona Sky

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ITT: People confuse disappointment with tears.

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Originally by: The Mittani

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There's no place safe in EVE from metagaming, especially not the AT, which is a delicious viper's nest of spying and deal-making.

You should make peace with that, or find a game where your cries of 'honor' will actually be listened to.

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Originally by: Aranial

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omg so much whining.

This personifies EVE if you don't like it

you know what I'm going to say

GB2WOW.

Well played Hydra and Outbreak, a well earned win

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Originally by: CoKaine Addict

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Both outbreak and hydra should be banned from next tournament

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Originally by: AngryMax

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Obviously it was a show of friendship. And that's whats important in life. Not ISK.

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Originally by: Frau Klaps

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Originally by: Marlona Sky

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ITT: People confuse disappointment with tears.

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OH GOD LOL.

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Originally by: The Mittani

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There's no place safe in EVE from metagaming, especially not the AT, which is a delicious viper's nest of spying and deal-making.

You should make peace with that, or find a game where your cries of 'honor' will actually be listened to.

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Originally by: Mag'nal

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Originally by: AngryMax

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Obviously it was a show of friendship. And that's whats important in life. Not ISK.

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Everyone knew going into this match that Hydra's guy's had won, they took first and second. The amount of planning and strategizing to ensure both of their teams had the best chance of making it to the final match was awesome.

At any point during the tournament, either Hydra or OUTBREAK could have been knocked out. I really can't believe that they bought EVERY match, they got to the final on their own accord, and grats to them. And better still, they gave us a wonderful slugging match that proved OUTBREAK was the winner in combat, but they conceded that Hydra got them there, so Hydra gets to take the grand prize.

Good show all around, and to those looking at it's face value, congrats, you're all acting like shallow WoW players.

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Originally by: Mag'nal

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Originally by: AngryMax

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Obviously it was a show of friendship. And that's whats important in life. Not ISK.

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Everyone knew going into this match that Hydra's guy's had won, they took first and second. The amount of planning and strategizing to ensure both of their teams had the best chance of making it to the final match was awesome.

At any point during the tournament, either Hydra or OUTBREAK could have been knocked out. I really can't believe that they bought EVERY match, they got to the final on their own accord, and grats to them. And better still, they gave us a wonderful slugging match that proved OUTBREAK was the winner in combat, but they conceded that Hydra got them there, so Hydra gets to take the grand prize.

Good show all around, and to those looking at it's face value, congrats, you're all acting like shallow WoW players.

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Originally by: The Mittani

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There's no place safe in EVE from metagaming, especially not the AT, which is a delicious viper's nest of spying and deal-making.

You should make peace with that, or find a game where your cries of 'honor' will actually be listened to.

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Originally by: The Mittani

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There's no place safe in EVE from metagaming, especially not the AT, which is a delicious viper's nest of spying and deal-making.

You should make peace with that, or find a game where your cries of 'honor' will actually be listened to.

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Originally by: CCP Incognito

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PS the "time to P*nis" is the shortest time recorded in human history. :)

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Originally by: Mag'nal

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Originally by: AngryMax

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Obviously it was a show of friendship. And that's whats important in life. Not ISK.

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Everyone knew going into this match that Hydra's guy's had won, they took first and second. The amount of planning and strategizing to ensure both of their teams had the best chance of making it to the final match was awesome.

At any point during the tournament, either Hydra or OUTBREAK could have been knocked out. I really can't believe that they bought EVERY match, they got to the final on their own accord, and grats to them. And better still, they gave us a wonderful slugging match that proved OUTBREAK was the winner in combat, but they conceded that Hydra got them there, so Hydra gets to take the grand prize.

Good show all around, and to those looking at it's face value, congrats, you're all acting like shallow WoW players.

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Originally by: Seleene

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I just wish they would have at least had a comedy brawl. T1 cruisers or something.

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Originally by: Aramis Rosicrux

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THIS!

Meta Gaming. Its NOT for children.

I love the fact that professional sports is full of sell-outs... but this crowd is mad over a virtual game!

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Originally by: Vaarun

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I do not think soccer fans would be pleased.

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Originally by: Vaarun

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Imagine if at the world cup soccer finals, both teams came on to the field and started playing catch with the ball and occasionally kicked it, then pulled the goalies and starting shooting from mid-field at the goals for laughs.

I do not think soccer fans would be pleased.

This is how EVE players feel now...at least the ones that watched the Tourney. Right now I can hear big allainces brokering to split into smaller alliances just to field ABCDEF and G teams to get them in there and manipulate the points and brackets so that at least one of them gets into the final. Lock it down NOW!Any alliance not made by yesterday cannot compete now...but that doesn't prevent pilots from moving.

As much as people(from big 0.0 alliances, btw)on the commentary team said 'this is the way EVE is', that doesn't mean the Tournament has to be that way. Think of a way to fix it. Perhaps prefit ships, if you win one year you cannot play next year(pilots *OR* corps *OR* Alliance), or make it that wins not points determine who advances, I don't care. The amount of time I cleared to watch the matches now seems utterly wasted if the final was the end result, time I will not waste next year until changes are made.

VERY disappointed.

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Originally by: Tech two

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The final wasn't meta gaming, what on earth?

It was 2 mates having fun after killing everyone else they needed to.

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Originally by: Tarminic

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OH MY GOD WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!

Originally by: The Mittani

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I just want to congratulate Laedey to an amazing end to an amazing tournament! Great work!

(and thank you for this beautiful, beautiful thread full of sorrow~)

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Originally by: Vaarun

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Imagine if at the world cup soccer finals, both teams came on to the field and started playing catch with the ball and occasionally kicked it, then pulled the goalies and starting shooting from mid-field at the goals for laughs.

I do not think soccer fans would be pleased.

This is how EVE players feel now...at least the ones that watched the Tourney. Right now I can hear big allainces brokering to split into smaller alliances just to field ABCDEF and G teams to get them in there and manipulate the points and brackets so that at least one of them gets into the final. Lock it down NOW!Any alliance not made by yesterday cannot compete now...but that doesn't prevent pilots from moving.

As much as people(from big 0.0 alliances, btw)on the commentary team said 'this is the way EVE is', that doesn't mean the Tournament has to be that way. Think of a way to fix it. Perhaps prefit ships, if you win one year you cannot play next year(pilots *OR* corps *OR* Alliance), or make it that wins not points determine who advances, I don't care. The amount of time I cleared to watch the matches now seems utterly wasted if the final was the end result, time I will not waste next year until changes are made.

VERY disappointed.

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Originally by: Tech two

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The final wasn't meta gaming, what on earth?

It was 2 mates having fun after killing everyone else they needed to.

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Originally by: Kagumichan

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I'm gonna think outside the box and disagree with pretty much everyone saying this was bad.

We wanted a proper slugfest for the final match and that's what we got, Outbreak and Hydra went at it guns blazing and Outbreak won in the ....

+1 agreed. It showed just how important alliances and friendship is in this game. They deserved the win.

Originally by: Yeo San

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Originally by: Tech two

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The final wasn't meta gaming, what on earth?

It was 2 mates having fun after killing everyone else they needed to.

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yes, both lost. no winner.
tournament lost, too.

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Originally by: Tarminic

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OH MY GOD WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!

Originally by: Fuamnach

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Yes, both teams won. It's EVE that lost.

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Originally by: Tarminic

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OH MY GOD WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!

Originally by: Roosterton

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Originally by: Fuamnach

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Yes, both teams won. It's EVE that lost.

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Based on how many people who are laughing in this thread instead of crying, you're just utterly incorrect.

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Originally by: Jos Wijnants

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Why does CCP don,t respond on these kind of post ,but only the ***licking ones

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Originally by: Jos Wijnants

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Why does CCP don,t respond on these kind of post ,but only the ***licking ones

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Originally by: Tech two

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Originally by: Jos Wijnants

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Why does CCP don,t respond on these kind of post ,but only the ***licking ones

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because its just tears from people who have no idea.

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Originally by: Roosterton

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Edited by: Roosterton on 19/06/2011 22:58:24

Originally by: Fuamnach

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Yes, both teams won. It's EVE that lost.

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Based on how many people are laughing in this thread instead of crying, you're just utterly incorrect.

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Originally by: Telvani

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List of Best finals ever:

PL v Hydra

PL V darkside

Darkside V Outbreak

Hydra V Razor

...and they were all this year.

This was easily the best alliance tournament ever, its left its infancy, until this AT PL was the only team playing the tourney professionally. Now there are so many teams that are playing all aspects of the AT to a top-notch level. Hydra doing spectacularly this year.

Now go back to your level 4 missions and remain quietly ignorant of this game.

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Originally by: Telvani

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List of Best finals ever:

PL v Hydra

PL V darkside

Darkside V Outbreak

Hydra V Razor

...and they were all this year.

This was easily the best alliance tournament ever, its left its infancy, until this AT PL was the only team playing the tourney professionally. Now there are so many teams that are playing all aspects of the AT to a top-notch level. Hydra doing spectacularly this year.

Now go back to your level 4 missions and remain quietly ignorant of this game.

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Originally by: Raimo

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Originally by: Telvani

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List of Best finals ever:

PL v Hydra

PL V darkside

Darkside V Outbreak

Hydra V Razor

...and they were all this year.

This was easily the best alliance tournament ever, its left its infancy, until this AT PL was the only team playing the tourney professionally. Now there are so many teams that are playing all aspects of the AT to a top-notch level. Hydra doing spectacularly this year.

Now go back to your level 4 missions and remain quietly ignorant of this game.

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Nice that someone gets it ;)

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Originally by: Fireglade

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Wonder how CCP is going to get sponsorprices to spread out next year.

It would be nice to hear an official oppinion from CCP.

If they endorse this kind of thing, i think their partners should know about it before they throw laptops and graphicscards at them for free.[/quote

Well, I don't think CCP will endorse that, but my take is that next year it will be though to get such cool sponsors... and free laptops.. Thank you Hydra!!

Originally by: Raimo

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Originally by: Telvani

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List of Best finals ever:

PL v Hydra

PL V darkside

Darkside V Outbreak

Hydra V Razor

...and they were all this year.

This was easily the best alliance tournament ever, its left its infancy, until this AT PL was the only team playing the tourney professionally. Now there are so many teams that are playing all aspects of the AT to a top-notch level. Hydra doing spectacularly this year.

Now go back to your level 4 missions and remain quietly ignorant of this game.

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Nice that someone gets it ;)

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Originally by: Swynet

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Why the hek people discuss politics they don't have a clue?

Ok, every one with two eyes opened not being blind, with half of it's brains active and even drunk saw all the meta game and arrangements here and there witch all agree, wasted a lot of stuff about the tournament or frustrated some of us waiting great fights.

Now you can't blah blah about CCP for giving their personal time to offer all of us this direct show, investing $$ and also to the official commentators () trying to share with all people playing/watching the game this passion we should share.

I had lots of fun watching those matches, hearing the comments and jokes between the power blocks leaders and CCP, hearing and learning stuff about eve/dust directly from CCP dev's and so should you. -internets for U at CCP eh
Yeah the end was frustrating, I was expecting a hell of a futk!ng match that didn't happened, but it's ok, I still had lots of fun.

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Originally by: Fireglade

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You should talk to that guy... here is his post, read it and be ashamed. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1531508

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Originally by: Leetah Stormbringerr

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Originally by: Roosterton

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Originally by: Fuamnach

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Yes, both teams won. It's EVE that lost.

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Based on how many people who are laughing in this thread instead of crying, you're just utterly incorrect.

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Let me lend you my fingers and toes so you can count the ones that said this final was a waste of their time and won't be watching again... I think you'll see they out number the sycophants by quite some amount...

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Originally by: Tarminic

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OH MY GOD WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!

Originally by: Cirroco Jones

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No respect for skill, game or public. Call it metagaming all you like, it's still cheating. Shame on cheaters, shame on all who support that (especially csm), shame on ccp for allowing this on their official tournament.

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Originally by: Greniard

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Originally by: Cirroco Jones

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No respect for skill, game or public. Call it metagaming all you like, it's still cheating. Shame on cheaters, shame on all who support that (especially csm), shame on ccp for allowing this on their official tournament.

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Remind me which rule they broke again?

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Originally by: Vaarun

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Edited by: Vaarun on 20/06/2011 01:35:17

Originally by: Greniard

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Originally by: Cirroco Jones

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No respect for skill, game or public. Call it metagaming all you like, it's still cheating. Shame on cheaters, shame on all who support that (especially csm), shame on ccp for allowing this on their official tournament.

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Remind me which rule they broke again?

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No rule, technically, but the spirit of competition was broken. The spirit of "winning" was totally fulfilled, so I guess it's an ethical question of one's character where they fall into this. I heard a lot of claims that alliances were refusing inside info. They wanted to win on their merits. And where were they during the final match? Watching. I don't think that's right.

Yes, yes up to the final it was mostly a competition, but there should be a rule change so it's not so obvious and not so easy to be lame.

Bah. What do I care. I'm not watching anymore. Enjoy the "EVE is EVE" Tourney next year...

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Originally by: Suitonia

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I'm so glad we broke our previous record of pubbie tears from the previous tournament from when we self destructed to give Agony the win.

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Originally by: Siddi Stress

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I'm ****ED the way this turned out. "Shout out to girls that play EVE" That is bull****, us girls can **** your faces WITHOUT having the whole damn thing staged....

TOTAL LETDOWN. I'm still mad 4 hours later..............

Waste of 2 weeks of my life, not so much. But what a let down after all that build up and WAITING..

Yeah ok fine these guys put in the time to get to the finals in the first place. YAY. Not the point.
So what, who cares if your name is tarnished by getting beat by some new guys, ITS YOUR GUYS. You should have given us a fight at the very least. THAT WAS TOTAL BS.

The alliance tournament is the only sport I watch, and it's only around once a year! I was so excited that for once PL wasnt going to have a chance to win YET AGAIN, but at least PL wins FAIRLY and doesnt THROW THE MATCH. Get in there and give it your best, sort out the 'winnings' later. ONE OF THE TOP TEN RULES OF A FLEET ENGAGEMENT!!! YOU SHOULD KNOW THEM BY NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
RABBLERABBLERABBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally by: CoKaine Addict

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Both outbreak and hydra should be banned from next tournament

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Originally by: Tyrehl

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Your tears, they fuel my spaceship pwnmobile.

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Originally by: Greniard

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Originally by: Cirroco Jones

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No respect for skill, game or public. Call it metagaming all you like, it's still cheating. Shame on cheaters, shame on all who support that (especially csm), shame on ccp for allowing this on their official tournament.

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Remind me which rule they broke again?

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Originally by: Daniel Rotius

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Perhaps they should broadcast the earlier matches and leave the finals for eve radio or something, that way the "meta-gamers" can have their fun and we don't have to watch rigged matches.

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Originally by: The Yzzerman

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Metagaming at it best

I salute and dring for Hydra and outbreak today

Well done!!!!!

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Originally by: Ceyres

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Edited by: Ceyres on 20/06/2011 07:40:38
Lets see, if there will be a post or any kind of reaction from CCPs side.
Maybe they will adjust the rules for next years tournament.

(edit for typos)

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Originally by: Bloodpetal

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Edited by: Bloodpetal on 20/06/2011 06:01:22

Originally by: Tyrehl

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Your tears, they fuel my spaceship pwnmobile.

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No QQ.

Just lameness.

To get tears from someone you gotta actually have some skill - just a few children thinking they're something special.

They're not special - they lost any respect they had. It's obvious - Hydra and Outbreak lost.

Either CCP Responds or CCP loses its respect from the community too for the Alliance Tourney.

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Originally by: Precisionist

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Originally by: Greniard

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Originally by: Cirroco Jones

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No respect for skill, game or public. Call it metagaming all you like, it's still cheating. Shame on cheaters, shame on all who support that (especially csm), shame on ccp for allowing this on their official tournament.

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Remind me which rule they broke again?

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Lol they told us about fixing the match. If they hadn't I'd be completely oblivious to it happening and everything would be fine. But now that even I realised what was happening I'm sad.

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Originally by: Anthony Dallas

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Finals like this just show low-level of everything that CCP does. As already said these teams should be banned. That game was just like lying on the grass on the final match of football world championship.

People trust in you. People bet on you. And you just f*ck up as always. That`s not how business works.

You`ve (CCP) also ruined my plans about working with you on a new projects. GL, hope you`ll do something to fix that situation. 0/

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Originally by: Kagumichan

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Originally by: Daniel Rotius

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Perhaps they should broadcast the earlier matches and leave the finals for eve radio or something, that way the "meta-gamers" can have their fun and we don't have to watch rigged matches.

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You didn't have to watch them if you didn't want to, it's not like you were paying for the pleasure of seeing them anyways.

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Originally by: Jenshae Chiroptera

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Agree, was rubbish. Outbreak should have finished it off.

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Originally by: Mithfindel

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Edited by: Mithfindel on 20/06/2011 09:02:47
Compared to ASCN vs. BOB final, that was a good match.

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Originally by: Lou Ping

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Bring back BoB. The fact that most of EvE hated them made the final interesting.

Oh ya and they were really good....

(Troll and flame away... you know you want to )

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Originally by: Feroz

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erm....someone want to summarise what all the drama is about??

I didn't see the final and just logged in to see this dramalama

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Originally by: Feroz

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erm....someone want to summarise what all the drama is about??

I didn't see the final and just logged in to see this dramalama

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Originally by: Feroz

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erm....someone want to summarise what all the drama is about??

I didn't see the final and just logged in to see this dramalama

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Originally by: Woodman2

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Some of you need to look up the definition of "metagaming".

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Originally by: Zuquar Bonaparte

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Originally by: The Mittani

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I just want to congratulate Laedey to an amazing end to an amazing tournament! Great work!

(and thank you for this beautiful, beautiful thread full of sorrow~)

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your joking right? CSM? yeah right

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Originally by: Telvani

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List of Best finals ever:

PL v Hydra

PL V darkside

Darkside V Outbreak

Hydra V Razor

...and they were all this year.

This was easily the best alliance tournament ever, its left its infancy, until this AT PL was the only team playing the tourney professionally. Now there are so many teams that are playing all aspects of the AT to a top-notch level. Hydra doing spectacularly this year.

Now go back to your level 4 missions and remain quietly ignorant of this game.

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Originally by: Flexington Steele

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The finals were awesome for the same reason the duel between Darth Vader and Obi Wan Kenobi in Episode IV was more awesome than that ridiculous duel at the end of Episode III.

If you want just another empty, meaningless, battle, there's plenty of those throughout the tournament, go watch them.

If you're complaining that the finals was 'boring', see the first paragraph above. Context and meaning defines the EVE sandbox.

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