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Cede Forster
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Posted - 2012.09.12 16:44:00 -
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Wilhelm Riley wrote:Not being confrontational here but what about the hundreds of other pilots who have lost their lives to some tragedy? It wouldn't be proper to honour the memory of one and not the rest. And to say Vile Rats achievements make him worthy of it, that's subjective, I didn't know him so I can't judge, though.
That said, I wouldn't disagree to a statue in orbit of a planet or something, just not renaming a system.
Also, if EVE-Cemetery is still running I'd suggest everyone donate the corpses of Vile Rat to it.. if there are any corpses.
then go ahead and step up for them instead complaining that people do here |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
1717
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Posted - 2012.09.12 16:44:00 -
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Hendrick Tallardar wrote:Skippermonkey wrote:a permanent monument in whatever system his toon is in right now would be fitting This is the most fitting than naming a whole system (which given the response from people isn't want they want). Perhaps take a look at his current ship & fittings, and make a statue/monument for it with his in-game name and a brief "why he means something" for players who do not know of his role in the EVE universe. That would be the most fitting in my opinion. I agree.
The problem I have with naming a system after someone, anyone, is that there's a finite number of systems in the game. If a "memorial" precedent of system naming began, and people continue being mortal, it would put CCP in the odious business of having to decide which deceased players were worth commemorating, and which ones are not. People might take those kind of decisions personally to say the least.
However unlike the number of systems, the amount of actual space in EVE is effectively infinite. Putting aside a piece of space/monument for Vile Rat's memory, considering the huge outpouring for his passing, is certainly within reason and the idea of similar memorials for other players in the future opens no cans of worms. In fact, I'd welcome it.
Deepest condolances to to Vile Rat's family and best wishes to anyone grieving at this time. |
Wilhelm Riley
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
105
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Posted - 2012.09.12 16:47:00 -
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Cede Forster wrote:then go ahead and step up for them instead complaining that people do here
I'm not complaining and don't turn this into an argument, please.
Read Nicolo da'Vicenza's post (#48, right above this one), he sums it up better than I did. |
Soulpirate
Bedrock Industrial
202
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Posted - 2012.09.12 16:50:00 -
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No to system renaming. This is a game we play to escape our daily routines, we dont need such reminders af the crappy real world while playing. Monument, sure, but get ready to have one erected for every EVE player that dies and has died and a **** storm of opinions on which death is worthy of recognition.
Remember him and feel for his family, but please don't start dragging that ****** world into the EVE world. |
Marcus Trial
All Inclusive SpaceMonkey's Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.09.12 16:52:00 -
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If naming systems/stations after him or creating a monument for him are considered "over the top", why not put his name into the description of one of the soon-to-come new destroyers?
Similar to the description of the rattlesnake: "Origin of the ships design patterns remain unknown, though several rumors indicate a strong influence by notorious nullsec dweller 'Vile Rat'." |
Raxip Elamp
Demon-War-Lords Fatal Ascension
0
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Posted - 2012.09.12 16:52:00 -
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./signed.
RIP VR. |
Jimmy Gunsmythe
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
150
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Posted - 2012.09.12 16:54:00 -
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I won't say no, I like how you formatted it. It is the greatest inequality to try to make unequal things equal. |
Tyraeil Starblade
Ronin Wing
24
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Posted - 2012.09.12 16:54:00 -
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War Kitten wrote:Rashmika Clavain wrote:
Who are we [collectively] to decide who is more valuable than another? :shrug:
We are human beings, and we make value judgements all day long. I didn't know either of you personally, but I'd vote VR was more valuable than you.
And it's thinking like this that leads to senseless violence in the first place....
Oh the irony. |
stoicfaux
1571
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Posted - 2012.09.12 16:56:00 -
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Sephira Galamore wrote:Remember the Teskanen Station Memorial Library from Clear Skies 3...? How about something similar, if possible..
For example, a dedicated place in space, with a main structure and one small nearby structure for every capsuleer, for every player that we know has passed away, similar to those multi-part sleeper buildings. Each individual structure would bear the name of the deceased and the info would allow for a few lines about who he was to the community and those that called him friend. Or just a permanent memorial can (obviously something nicer than a can) in the Eve Gate system. Have the memorial cemetery accessible via an acceleration gate to avoid cluttering (and confusing) newbie visitors to the Eve gate.
Purchase of a memorial can would require a petition to help avoid abuse/fraud.
Perma-banning any jackass who PvPs in the Eve Gate Memorial dead space pocket is an option, but this is Eve so I don't know.
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
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Infinite Force
Hammer Of Light Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
140
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Posted - 2012.09.12 16:57:00 -
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What a tragedy.
RIP VR! HROLT CEO Live Free; Die Proud
Hammer Mineral Compression - The only way to go! |
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ARMTEL
UK Corp RAZOR Alliance
15
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Posted - 2012.09.12 17:13:00 -
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Lots of good points for and against this idea and I can see the reasons for those.
I liked the idea of VR-RIP because new players to the game this would mean nothing to them as its just another seemingly random named system.
OFC I realize there are many players in this game who have done much more than the average player who would be equally deserving of such a tribute but would 0.0 become overrun with such systems if they were all given a system name?
Eve will not last forever no matter how much we would wish it, so I dont see this becoming a problem even if a precedent is set for those deserving who do pass away.
I myself was not fortunate enough to know Vile in RL or in game but was on the receiving end of some of the things he did in the LV days
I hope CCP do do something for those who put so much into the game, be it this or something else |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
660
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Posted - 2012.09.12 17:14:00 -
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Already has been said, so i will just add to the opinions agaisnt it as it would set a precedent. It would be sad to split players between those who go in a blaze of glory and get their own personal ingame memento, and those who don't.
I would understand though if the Goons chose to celebrate VR's life with a player owned structure in their territory... but CCP should stay clear for prudence. I play games for fun, evasion and reward.-áEVE is not fun, it sucks as much as reality and dismisses all my ways of playing it.
I think that I should unhook myself from that b*tch... Soon. |
Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
158
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Posted - 2012.09.12 18:13:00 -
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Ahhh the human animal. Of course a situation has to bring out the worst in people fighting and bickering about why some ideas have merit and some don't and who is more important in EVE than others. If I die in RL and you find out, please just say "so what" and go back to playing... |
Cedo Nulli
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
236
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Posted - 2012.09.12 18:13:00 -
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I fullheartedly support the idea of an ingame monument placed in some peaceful system.
Please make the Info tab tell the tale of the person. |
Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1967
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Posted - 2012.09.12 18:15:00 -
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I think a thread where we pay our respects is enough, anything created in game as a memorial should be done solely by the players themselves and not CCP (as it has been so far). "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |
Kuehnelt
Devoid Privateering
282
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Posted - 2012.09.12 18:16:00 -
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https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1298805#post1298805 |
Tiberius StarGazer
Caldari Gallente Concordance
7
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Posted - 2012.09.12 18:17:00 -
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How about a EVE wide cease fire and meeting in a designated system? |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
1718
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Posted - 2012.09.12 18:20:00 -
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Tiberius StarGazer wrote:How about a EVE wide cease fire and meeting in a designated system? I'll bring my mining alt. I mean my mourning alt. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
685
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Posted - 2012.09.12 18:21:00 -
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Tiberius StarGazer wrote:How about a EVE wide cease fire and meeting in a designated system? I can't really speak for him, but his reputation would suggest a cease fire is the last thing he would want for this game. http://themittani.com/features/local-problem A simple fix to the local intel problem |
Catlos JeminJees
E.M.P. Industries Gentlemen's Agreement
54
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Posted - 2012.09.12 18:37:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Tiberius StarGazer wrote:How about a EVE wide cease fire and meeting in a designated system? I can't really speak for him, but his reputation would suggest a cease fire is the last thing he would want for this game.
Yup and there would always be that one duche or group of duchie that would come in and **** with it. |
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Adalun Dey
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
55
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Posted - 2012.09.12 18:42:00 -
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Sephira Galamore wrote:Remember the Teskanen Station Memorial Library from Clear Skies 3...? How about something similar, if possible..
For example, a dedicated place in space, with a main structure and one small nearby structure for every capsuleer, for every player that we know has passed away, similar to those multi-part sleeper buildings. Each individual structure would bear the name of the deceased and the info would allow for a few lines about who he was to the community and those that called him friend. If World of Warcraft can have quest givers named after players that passed away such as Ezra Chatterton, I'm sure CCP can do something similar for players such as Vile Rat. As long as it's done in a tasteful manner and it's not being exploited for marketing purposes, I'm fine with it, whatever it might be. " Take my love, take my land, take me where I can not stand, I don't care, I'm still free. You can't take the sky from me. "
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Rats
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
224
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Posted - 2012.09.12 18:43:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Tiberius StarGazer wrote:How about a EVE wide cease fire and meeting in a designated system? I can't really speak for him, but his reputation would suggest a cease fire is the last thing he would want for this game.
Would probably want an all out out last man standing battle
Tal
-áI Fought the Law, and the Law Won... -áTalon Silverhawk-á |
Verone
Veto Corp
360
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Posted - 2012.09.12 18:49:00 -
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While I expressed my opinion here, regarding the loss of VR, I can't help but disagree with this.
Players who've died out of game have never been awarded CCP endorsed monuments to keep arguments over favouritism out of the game.
Why not drop an outpost somewhere, make it the official Goon/CFC HQ, and rename it in his honour?
Eve is a sandbox, and a sandbox it should remain. Any monuments to those lost out of game should be player created and player maintained.
Verone CEO & Executor Veto Corp WWW.VETO-CORP.COM |
Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2012.09.12 18:53:00 -
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Best idea in this thread was the deadspace pocket next to the EVE gate that would operate as a sort of IRL graveyard for EVE players who passed on.
It's poetic and wouldn't affect gameplay in any real way. The EVE gate is the most tangible "connection" between the EVE universe and our own - the point where our universe got severed from the game universe. I like the thought of memorializing anyone who played EVE by giving them a virtual resting place just on the far side of the EVE gate - as if, in death, a small part of them passed on, and made it into the EVE universe itself. |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Tactical Vendor of Services and Goods Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
1725
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Posted - 2012.09.12 19:14:00 -
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Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote:Best idea in this thread was the deadspace pocket next to the EVE gate that would operate as a sort of IRL graveyard for EVE players who passed on.
It's poetic and wouldn't affect gameplay in any real way. The EVE gate is the most tangible "connection" between the EVE universe and our own - the point where our universe got severed from the game universe. I like the thought of memorializing anyone who played EVE by giving them a virtual resting place just on the far side of the EVE gate - as if, in death, a small part of them passed on, and made it into the EVE universe itself. I like the way you said this. Its a good idea. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! |
horrorgun
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
4
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Posted - 2012.09.12 19:26:00 -
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At the sun in Jita I propose that everyone drops a can and re-names it "R.I.P Vile Rat" in honor of Vile Rat, drop by anytime you want and drop a can for him to pay your respects. (People are dropping off cans as we speak) |
Dyvim Slorm
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
34
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Posted - 2012.09.12 19:28:00 -
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Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote:Best idea in this thread was the deadspace pocket next to the EVE gate that would operate as a sort of IRL graveyard for EVE players who passed on.
It's poetic and wouldn't affect gameplay in any real way. The EVE gate is the most tangible "connection" between the EVE universe and our own - the point where our universe got severed from the game universe. I like the thought of memorializing anyone who played EVE by giving them a virtual resting place just on the far side of the EVE gate - as if, in death, a small part of them passed on, and made it into the EVE universe itself.
Yes, this I like and very nicely put
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Rats
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
224
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Posted - 2012.09.12 19:33:00 -
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Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote:Best idea in this thread was the deadspace pocket next to the EVE gate that would operate as a sort of IRL graveyard for EVE players who passed on.
It's poetic and wouldn't affect gameplay in any real way. The EVE gate is the most tangible "connection" between the EVE universe and our own - the point where our universe got severed from the game universe. I like the thought of memorializing anyone who played EVE by giving them a virtual resting place just on the far side of the EVE gate - as if, in death, a small part of them passed on, and made it into the EVE universe itself.
Like it, have seen a few members of the Eve community pass away over the years. This would be a nice little memorial.
Or as most pod pilots real id's are anonymous, how about one memorial somewhere to the "unknown pod pilot", to mark all of those that have touched our community and passed on.
Tal
-áI Fought the Law, and the Law Won... -áTalon Silverhawk-á |
Soulpirate
Bedrock Industrial
203
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Posted - 2012.09.12 19:34:00 -
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Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote:Best idea in this thread was the deadspace pocket next to the EVE gate that would operate as a sort of IRL graveyard for EVE players who passed on.
It's poetic and wouldn't affect gameplay in any real way. The EVE gate is the most tangible "connection" between the EVE universe and our own - the point where our universe got severed from the game universe. I like the thought of memorializing anyone who played EVE by giving them a virtual resting place just on the far side of the EVE gate - as if, in death, a small part of them passed on, and made it into the EVE universe itself. +1
This is the right idea. |
Tiberius StarGazer
Caldari Gallente Concordance
7
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Posted - 2012.09.12 19:39:00 -
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Rats wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Tiberius StarGazer wrote:How about a EVE wide cease fire and meeting in a designated system? I can't really speak for him, but his reputation would suggest a cease fire is the last thing he would want for this game. Would probably want an all out out last man standing battle
I was gonna suggest a meeting with a 10min cease fire and then a free for all... But wasn't sure if it was being disrespectful or not. |
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