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Jake Maverick
Gallente Volunteer Defense Forces
Tribal Band
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Posted - 2012.09.12 14:24:00 -
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signed. signed a thousand times for either the system name change or an in game station monument, or both.
As for "Player owned monuments" This sounds really nice at first, but as eve players We'd probably litter eve with them, or sully their meaning by finding some way to abuse them, for example to mess people up by jamming them in inconvenient places. But Nothing stops us from naming any thing that is anchorable in his honor. A station, a POS, a container. w/e you can anchor you can name in honor of the fallen. |
Rodj Blake
Praetorian Auxiliary Force
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1112
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Posted - 2012.09.12 14:25:00 -
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highonpop wrote:Rodj Blake wrote:A while ago an Eve player passed away after a long fight with cancer and his friends decided to have an in-game gathering in his memory.
The event was of course attended by a number of idiots intent on disrupting things.
And that's why any sort of in-game memorial might not be such a good idea. If we hold a ceremony in his name in nullsec, and players come to OUR SPACE to crash the party.... they will be met at the door by a nasty welcoming party. trust me.
The fact that you have to use a welcoming party will in itself alter the mood.
In a similar vein, if CCP decide to change a system name to honour VR, how long will it be before someone mistakenly believes themselves to be the reincarnation of Oscar Wilde and comes up with a "witty" outpost name for the system?
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
Welsige
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
87
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Posted - 2012.09.12 14:30:00 -
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Also signed for this, either or both, a system and monument.
Its not just about the loss, the death of a person is sad but quite common and a certainty in life. But the manner and violence of his passing is an important factor and such homenage is fitting all things considered.
Its something to make us remember the kind of impact one can have in our comunity, and also to remember what effects such acts of terrorism can have in other lives and why such things should never happen again.
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Free The Mittani |
highonpop
Eve Liberation Force
Fatal Ascension
276
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Posted - 2012.09.12 14:30:00 -
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Jake Maverick wrote:signed. signed a thousand times for either the system name change or an in game station monument, or both.
As for "Player owned monuments" This sounds really nice at first, but as eve players We'd probably litter eve with them, or sully their meaning by finding some way to abuse them, for example to mess people up by jamming them in inconvenient places. But Nothing stops us from naming any thing that is anchorable in his honor. A station, a POS, a container. w/e you can anchor you can name in honor of the fallen.
Check Zagdul's post on page 1. There are now over 300 Stations with VR's name on them through out the CFC and HBC
http://www.soundboard.com/sb/Very%20best%20of%20Makalu%20Zarya
R.I.P Vile Rat
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/live/Outpost/Rename/2012-09-12 |
Ensign X
173
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Posted - 2012.09.12 14:33:00 -
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If CCP started naming systems or stations after every dead subscriber, it wouldn't be long before all of the EVE Universe would be named after dead people.
Otoh, if you really want to honor your dead comrade, there are ways to do so within the limitations of the sandbox. Serenity Now crashing an in-game WOW funeral comes to mind. |
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ISD TYPE40
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
564
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Posted - 2012.09.12 14:36:00 -
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This is the first and only warning I will issue. Do NOT bring petty personal arguments in here. If you disagree with the OP do so politely and then leave. Vitriol, petty insults and mud slinging will not be tolerated on these forums and anyone found to be doing so repeatedly is at risk of a warning or forum ban.
I know that subjects like this can be difficult to deal with, everyone has differing views and thoughts. This is something that can work two ways, it can either benefit the community or it can divide it terribly. Please bear in mind that friends of Vile Rats will be reading these pages, perhaps even his family, we do not know. So I will ask all of you, once and once only, show some respect.
So please, think before you post, and post sensibly - ISD Type40.
ISD Type40
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department |
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Doddy
Excidium.
Executive Outcomes
140
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Posted - 2012.09.12 14:40:00 -
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Jake Maverick wrote:signed. signed a thousand times for either the system name change or an in game station monument, or both.
As for "Player owned monuments" This sounds really nice at first, but as eve players We'd probably litter eve with them, or sully their meaning by finding some way to abuse them, for example to mess people up by jamming them in inconvenient places. But Nothing stops us from naming any thing that is anchorable in his honor. A station, a POS, a container. w/e you can anchor you can name in honor of the fallen.
Even that can have reprucussions though. I remember taking a station which was named for a deceased player, only to have the corp eve mail and ask for the name to be kept. That is not the sort of choice you should really have to make, ignore their wishes and name your station what you want only to become the bad guy, or have your alliance live out of an outpost named for a guy they never even heard of? In the end we kept it for a grace period then renamed it making sure it a was nothing too flippant. Same goes for pos, someone wants the moon they have to attack a memorial ......
As for the monument thing i do think a monument somewhere that ccp could add the char names (or even portraits) of fallen eve players too would be far easier to work out than personal monuments. |
Jim Era
2834
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Posted - 2012.09.12 14:44:00 -
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We could place a large phallus somewhere in space.
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Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
725
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Posted - 2012.09.12 14:45:00 -
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Supported.
To all of those thinking they're funny with crapposting about serious business, pass you way there's nothing for you to troll here. Show some respect and go post somewhere else.
brb |
William Walker
House Aratus
Fatal Ascension
71
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Posted - 2012.09.12 14:46:00 -
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How about a titan wreck in his current system for a week for people to virtually say goodbye to a man they knew in that virtual world. A virtual tombstone for everyone to show their respects. |
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Kyra Yaken
State War Academy
Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2012.09.12 14:57:00 -
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But first we need to make a monument for all the vicitms his boss made in that country while bringing democracy in it.
Leave dead people out of game, its not place for them. |
Agent Akari
Hobo Industries Inc
32
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Posted - 2012.09.12 15:01:00 -
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We could name a famous station in 0.0 for that too? |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Tactical Vendor of Services and Goods
Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
1724
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Posted - 2012.09.12 15:25:00 -
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I petitioned for a monument in his memory but that got locked apparently because it is too similar to this request. Either way...monument, system name change or both. I am all for it. He deserves to be remembered. He did a lot to shape EVE.
EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! |
Matthew97
Pro Synergy
ARK.
34
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Posted - 2012.09.12 15:28:00 -
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Supported.
With such as massive influence (even me, a Carebear since '08 has heard all about him) he deserves something at least.
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ISD TYPE40
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
568
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Posted - 2012.09.12 15:33:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:I petitioned for a monument in his memory but that got locked apparently because it is too similar to this request. Either way...monument, system name change or both. I am all for it. He deserves to be remembered. He did a lot to shape EVE.
Your understanding in this matter is greatly appreciated Vertisce - ISD Type40.
ISD Type40
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department |
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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power.
Cascade Imminent
1714
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Posted - 2012.09.12 15:36:00 -
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maybe goons could set up an anchorable "EVE Cemetary" |
highonpop
Eve Liberation Force
Fatal Ascension
277
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Posted - 2012.09.12 15:44:00 -
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I understand that people think this will just set a precedent that could be abused in the future.
But there are few other players in the history of EVE that have had the same impact on the game as Vile Rat. He was a well renowned diplomat and a long-tenured old-guard of GSF, the CFC and Eve online... Since 2006.
He even had a hand in the fall of BoB
http://www.soundboard.com/sb/Very%20best%20of%20Makalu%20Zarya
R.I.P Vile Rat
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/live/Outpost/Rename/2012-09-12 |
Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
760
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Posted - 2012.09.12 15:52:00 -
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highonpop wrote:I understand that people think this will just set a precedent that could be abused in the future.
Yea, i don't see a reson for CCP to do it. Players did it already - http://evemaps.dotlan.net/outposts/changes
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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power.
Cascade Imminent
1715
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Posted - 2012.09.12 16:00:00 -
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Yeah, when can Cascade Imminent get one of our systems named after Ballistix? |
Azami Nevinyrall
Project Cerberus
Caldari State Capturing
416
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Posted - 2012.09.12 16:02:00 -
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I personally think that CCP should honor all lost players...
Maybe a in game graveyard with the players most used ship as a monument...
Do you know what a sh*t-barometer is? It measures the sh*t-pressure in the air, did you hear that? The sounds of the whispering winds of sh*t... |
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Idris Helion
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
70
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Posted - 2012.09.12 16:03:00 -
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Skippermonkey wrote:a permanent monument in whatever system his toon is in right now would be fitting
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Denidil
Evocations of Shadow
Eternal Evocations
513
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Posted - 2012.09.12 16:10:00 -
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Jake Warbird wrote:Skippermonkey wrote:a permanent monument in whatever system his toon is in right now would be fitting This I agree with.
thirded
Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design. |
baltec1
Bat Country
2117
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Posted - 2012.09.12 16:16:00 -
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A monument of two blue rifters shooting eachother. |
Hendrick Tallardar
Leessang.
1
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Posted - 2012.09.12 16:17:00 -
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Skippermonkey wrote:a permanent monument in whatever system his toon is in right now would be fitting
This is the most fitting than naming a whole system (which given the response from people isn't want they want).
Perhaps take a look at his current ship & fittings, and make a statue/monument for it with his in-game name and a brief "why he means something" for players who do not know of his role in the EVE universe.
That would be the most fitting in my opinion. |
Sephira Galamore
Nemesis Holdings Corp
Luna Sanguinem
28
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Posted - 2012.09.12 16:21:00 -
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Remember the Teskanen Station Memorial Library from Clear Skies 3...? How about something similar, if possible..
For example, a dedicated place in space, with a main structure and one small nearby structure for every capsuleer, for every player that we know has passed away, similar to those multi-part sleeper buildings.
Each individual structure would bear the name of the deceased and the info would allow for a few lines about who he was to the community and those that called him friend. |
Colonel Xaven
Decadence.
RAZOR Alliance
151
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Posted - 2012.09.12 16:24:00 -
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Zagdul wrote:In the Sandbox that is EVE, we can make our own memorials: http://evemaps.dotlan.net/live/Outpost/Rename/2012-09-12I respect your sentiment, but it's not appropriate in a video game. We'll remember him always, and knowing Goons, they'll always have some way to be sure he's never forgotten.
Awesome to see name changes above political borders, coming from all over New Eden...
In this game we have differences and explosions.
In the real world we are one community. No matter where from, what religion, what age.
We are bros. The world should look at us. |
Solstice Project
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
1749
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Posted - 2012.09.12 16:34:00 -
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I feel bad now for never ever having actually heard about him ...
Anyway, i'm against a namechange, because **** ... it was his name and that's part of what he'll be remembered with.
Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Random McNally
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
49
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Posted - 2012.09.12 16:39:00 -
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I would support and in game monument (although the VR-RIP system change would be awesome).
Is it possible that the in game monument could possess the names of mains that have passed? Not only would it be a tribute to VR, but a tribute to all the other people who have been capsuleers and passed on. |
Cede Forster
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Posted - 2012.09.12 16:40:00 -
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i support this, if somebody is so damn concerned to set a precedent in the light of this, so be it a precedent
sounds like a good precedent to me, lets do it and deal with the precedent it sets when it comes to it |
Wilhelm Riley
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
105
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Posted - 2012.09.12 16:42:00 -
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Not being confrontational here but what about the hundreds of other pilots who have lost their lives to some tragedy? It wouldn't be proper to honour the memory of one and not the rest. And to say Vile Rats achievements make him worthy of it, that's subjective, I didn't know him so I can't judge, though.
That said, I wouldn't disagree to a statue in orbit of a planet or something, just not renaming a system.
Also, if EVE-Cemetery is still running I'd suggest everyone donate the corpses of Vile Rat to it.. if there are any corpses.
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Random McNally wrote:
Is it possible that the in game monument could possess the names of mains that have passed? Not only would it be a tribute to VR, but a tribute to all the other people who have been capsuleers and passed on.
That seems like a fair proposal. |
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