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Korinne
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Posted - 2011.06.20 16:44:00 -
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What is EvE about? Is it about trendy clothes, or shooting a big gun and teabagging your most recent kill? Last time I checked, it was about internet spaceships. I bring this up because all of this new content worries me and I am curious to see if anyone feels the same way. It seems that instead of being concerned with the game itself, players and developers are much more interested in shiny easter eggs and addons that as I see it, add little to the actual substance of the game itself. The apparent rush to get all of this stuff out of the door only seems to compound it; it makes it appear as if this is less an attempt to enhance, broaden, and perfect the world that is Eve and more an attempt to squeeze more cash out of players and create a swarm of new accounts.
I am not saying that CCP shouldn't be adding these things at all, simply that there are alot of other things that I believe would be a better use of their time. In other words, don't start another project until you've finished the first. There are lots of things that need work and need to be fixed throughout Eve as it is (we're still swimming around in laggy space themed submarines ffs) , and rushing to bring out new content just seems to me like trying to distract the public's gaze from the existing flaws.
Eve is about internet spaceships, and that should be the first priority when it comes to enhancing the game , not drawing in the other MMO players for another wardrobe game, and not drawing in the console kiddies.
People used to say that Incarna would come out when Duke Nukem Forever comes out. What's the galaxy coming to?
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Joe SMASH
You Got A Purty Mouth
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Posted - 2011.06.20 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Korinne People used to say that Incarna would come out when Duke Nukem Forever comes out.
Those people were correct. -----------------------------------
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Demure Guise
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Posted - 2011.06.20 16:47:00 -
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This is both new and interesting.
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Teala Te'Jir
Amarr Mr. Benjamin Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.06.20 16:51:00 -
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So by saying no I guess that means you'll be quitting. I for one will embrace Incarna and welcome it because it is about time we have actual avatars instead of just ships. Ships are cool, but they are nothing without our characters.
So when you quit feel free to contract all your ISK and belongings to Teala Te'Jir, I'll not turn your stuff down, but make good use of it. ^_^
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Korinne
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Posted - 2011.06.20 16:53:00 -
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Originally by: Teala Te'Jir So by saying no I guess that means you'll be quitting. I for one will embrace Incarna and welcome it because it is about time we have actual avatars instead of just ships. Ships are cool, but they are nothing without our characters.
I won't be quitting anytime soon. I've invested too much into the game and the world at large to do that just yet. Also, I should reiterate that I'm not saying that his is BAD content, just that it should be secondary or even tertiary to the main focus of Eve. That is, internet spaceships. They used to be serious business, and I want them to stay that way.
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Ori Empress
United Systems of the Allegiance Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2011.06.20 16:55:00 -
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Originally by: Teala Te'Jir So by saying no I guess that means you'll be quitting. I for one will embrace Incarna and welcome it because it is about time we have actual avatars instead of just ships. Ships are cool, but they are nothing without our characters.
So when you quit feel free to contract all your ISK and belongings to Teala Te'Jir, I'll not turn your stuff down, but make good use of it. ^_^
^ this. I welcome the new sexy guns and the new maller hull with open arms.
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Josefine Etrange
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.20 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: Korinne
Eve is about internet spaceships, and that should be the first priority when it comes to enhancing the game , not drawing in the other MMO players for another wardrobe game, and not drawing in the console kiddies. People used to say that Incarna would come out when Duke Nukem Forever comes out. What's the galaxy coming to?
EVE is and was always about a sci-fi universe. And nearly as long as they said they will build duke nukem forever cpp said they WILL make walking in stations IF they got the time and resources do pull it off. Heck, they said this in beta already. I just hope they stop wasting so much resources of the wardrobe stuff and focus now again on the spaceship stuff to later after dust 514 is finished to introduce killing on stations. I want sit dusties face to face in a station, and send my mind-controlled anti-person-drones against them if they annoy me!
Why a forum in the year 2011 still has no automatic double post merge which can be done even with javascript mostly is beyond my understanding. |
Abrazzar
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Posted - 2011.06.20 16:59:00 -
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They need to implement a way to properly save and load portraits so I can change it every time I do a clone jump and/or get podded. I'd also love a offline chargen where we can import, export, render and share portraits for fun and contests.
Until then, Incarna is just :meh: --------
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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente Panta-Rhei Butterfly Effect Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.20 17:03:00 -
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I say yes to Incarna.
Quote: Disclaimer: All mentioned above contains my opinion and is therefore an absolute truth (for me anyway, my universe, muhahaha.....ok, done
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Corina's Bodyguard
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Posted - 2011.06.20 17:04:00 -
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Your premise is wrong. The main focus of EVE Online has always been the entirety of the universe of New Eden. They just didn't have the tech 4 years ago to implement it (and I doubt the average computer 4 years ago could even get 5fps on the current build on Sisi).
I personally welcome the concept of Incarna. Will have to wait for tomorrow and subsequent patches to see if I like the implementation.
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Discrodia
Gallente Symbiosis International Moose Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.20 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Joe SMASH
Originally by: Korinne People used to say that Incarna would come out when Duke Nukem Forever comes out.
Those people were correct.
/thread
Originally by: anonymous WE JUST DID SCIENCE!
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J Kunjeh
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.20 17:05:00 -
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Just say No! to yet another lame Incarna whine thread. ~Gnosis~ |
Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.06.20 17:21:00 -
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Edited by: Whitehound on 20/06/2011 17:25:51 In case you have not noticed, did we not break the PCU record during the alliance tournament. This is as much "No" as you can currently get from the community. I believe it is save to say that some folks high up at CCP will have wrinkles on their foreheads about this stagnation of the PCU numbers, if it is not a decline.
The blame will likely not fall onto Incarna itself as it is not out yet, but partly onto its late deployment, as well as all the recent changes made to EVE that did not exactly improve the game in some way. I am thinking here of the removal of the learning skills - these skills did not stop the PCU numbers from climbing in the past and while the skills still existed. Now we have seen the removal of agent quality and NPC divisions, and I have a feeling that it will not boost PCU numbers in the long run either, because it is just another removal of something. Nor did the pretty avatars seem to have done much to counter it and to boost the PCU numbers and one could start making bets on how much the Captain's Quarters will help here. I do not think it will. I am guessing that Aurum will do some good as it gives players something directly in return for their money, but it also depends on what it is you can get. An Ishukone Watch Scorpion that is no different in stats from a standard Scorpion is not going to get much attraction. The Scorpion did already receive a new and pretty skin, which was felt by most as necessary. So without having seen it do I very much doubt the added value of it. If this is then the kind of stuff you can get for Aurum then I do not seen it boosting PCU numbers either.
TL;DR: In a way are players already saying "No". --
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Estephania
Independent Political Analysts
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Posted - 2011.06.20 17:25:00 -
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I may not agree with all what Incarna will bring, but all this bashing and smacking is way too much. After all a lot of developers working hard to deliver a good product and saying that what they do is **** even before you try it is at least bad manners. Have some respect for them and their work as we don't have yet any grounds of actually knowing how Incarna will look like when it's fully deployed.
When you say "there are alot of other things that I believe would be a better use of their time", why do you think you can decide better than their team leaders where to spend their time and efforts. I'm also not overjoyed with Incarna and think that MT are a spit in the face (now) and has the potential to kill Eve if it goes full MT. But at least I reserve my judgement of Incarna until it's implemented.
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Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
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Posted - 2011.06.20 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: Korinne What is EvE about? Is it about trendy clothes, or shooting a big gun and teabagging your most recent kill?
I never knew having clothes and shooting people excluded one another?
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Lord Ryan
The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2011.06.20 17:35:00 -
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fuk incarna. where's my prada bag?
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RensPriceChecker2
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Posted - 2011.06.20 17:41:00 -
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Ok Incarna now... .. stop... INCARNA.. LISTEN TO ME ! You can .. awww. WAIT you can play captains quarters later. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.06.20 17:44:00 -
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Edited by: Whitehound on 20/06/2011 17:46:03
Originally by: Jennifer Starling
Originally by: Korinne What is EvE about? Is it about trendy clothes, or shooting a big gun and teabagging your most recent kill?
I never knew having clothes and shooting people excluded one another?
This is not the point. You can PvP in WoW, too, but most would not say that it makes both games equal. Having clothes on and shooting do not exclude one another, but then they also have not much in common.
While WoW takes place in several realms was one of the biggest arguments for EVE that it all plays in one big universe. I do not think that this distinction ever made a big difference to any of its players. And if it did then why does WoW have success with its realms? Instead, is CCP continuing on their path of combining all into one universe, and this may turn out to be the wrong idea after all for some of the EVE players. --
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Lord Ryan
The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2011.06.20 17:46:00 -
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Screenshots from my CQ:
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Korinne
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Posted - 2011.06.20 17:56:00 -
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Again, I'm not trying to hate on the idea of Incarna, after all, we would all like to see the universe expand. I am trying to voice my opinion that I think taking on all these projects at once to the potential detriment of the primary Eve content worries me.
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Anna Maziarczyk
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Posted - 2011.06.20 17:57:00 -
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Originally by: Korinne What is EvE about? Is it about trendy clothes, or shooting a big gun and teabagging your most recent kill? Last time I checked, it was about internet spaceships. I bring this up because all of this new content worries me and I am curious to see if anyone feels the same way. It seems that instead of being concerned with the game itself, players and developers are much more interested in shiny easter eggs and addons that as I see it, add little to the actual substance of the game itself. The apparent rush to get all of this stuff out of the door only seems to compound it; it makes it appear as if this is less an attempt to enhance, broaden, and perfect the world that is Eve and more an attempt to squeeze more cash out of players and create a swarm of new accounts.
I am not saying that CCP shouldn't be adding these things at all, simply that there are alot of other things that I believe would be a better use of their time. In other words, don't start another project until you've finished the first. There are lots of things that need work and need to be fixed throughout Eve as it is (we're still swimming around in laggy space themed submarines ffs) , and rushing to bring out new content just seems to me like trying to distract the public's gaze from the existing flaws.
Eve is about internet spaceships, and that should be the first priority when it comes to enhancing the game , not drawing in the other MMO players for another wardrobe game, and not drawing in the console kiddies.
People used to say that Incarna would come out when Duke Nukem Forever comes out. What's the galaxy coming to?
I somewhat agree. Im not playing EVE because i enjoy FPS mechanics and want to play dress up dolls.
CQ is elaborate, complex, all sorts of stuff. Imagine how much time/money/effort has been spent making it.
Why wasnt that time/money/effort spent make more EVE. i.e. internet spaceship stuff.
They have a massive expansion coming out to their spaceship game.... WITH NO NEW SPACESHIPS!>!>>!>!@?>!#?
Serious, was everyone playing EVE sitting around thinking "Geee, i wish EVE were an FPS with dress up dolls?"
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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.06.20 17:58:00 -
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Just say YES to drugs!
That doesn't break the ESRB rating does it?
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Lord Ryan
The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2011.06.20 18:00:00 -
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I somewhat agree. Im not playing EVE because i enjoy FPS mechanics and want to play dress up dolls.
CQ is elaborate, complex, all sorts of stuff. Imagine how much time/money/effort has been spent making it.
Why wasnt that time/money/effort spent make more EVE. i.e. internet spaceship stuff.
They have a massive expansion coming out to their spaceship game.... WITH NO NEW SPACESHIPS!>!>>!>!@?>!#?
Serious, was everyone playing EVE sitting around thinking "Geee, i wish EVE were an FPS with dress up dolls?"
^THIS^ Someone is still butthurt over Brats line being canceled.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2011.06.20 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: Miilla
Just say YES to drugs!
This explains everything. --------
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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.06.20 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: Abrazzar
Originally by: Miilla
Just say YES to drugs!
This explains everything.
well, not "everything".
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Korinne
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Posted - 2011.06.20 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: Miilla
Just say YES to drugs!
That was the humor I was trying to get at with the thread name, not espouse a general "I hate Incarna and I haven't tried it yet" theme that some seem to think this is.
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Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
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Posted - 2011.06.20 18:14:00 -
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Well I do understand the Incarna opposition though. It's the fact that resources for Incarna aren't working on improving and fixing starship stuff. But that's also partially CCP's choice, to invest their money in DUST and WoD and not put teams on improving EVE.
Originally by: Miilla
Originally by: Abrazzar
Originally by: Miilla
Just say YES to drugs!
This explains everything.
well, not "everything".
Care to share with us what it does explain?
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k0f4
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Posted - 2011.06.20 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: Korinne
Originally by: Miilla
Just say YES to drugs!
That was the humor I was trying to get at with the thread name, not espouse a general "I hate Incarna and I haven't tried it yet" theme that some seem to think this is.
wow not seen that much fail since at9 finals now i'm waiting for incarna fail afterall these come in 3's right?
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Lord Ryan
The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2011.06.20 18:20:00 -
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Originally by: Korinne
Originally by: Miilla
Just say YES to drugs!
That was the humor I was trying to get at with the thread name, not espouse a general "I hate Incarna and I haven't tried it yet" theme that some seem to think this is.
Cause we want more spaceships in our spaceship game and less fukn dress up dolls. And we have been saying it for years, but those @$$hats are not listening!
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Scarlet des Loupes
Gallente University of Caille
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Posted - 2011.06.20 18:24:00 -
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Edited by: Scarlet des Loupes on 20/06/2011 18:25:04
Originally by: Lord Ryan Screenshots from my CQ:
Oh .. my dream CQ ... ^^
Originally by: Lord Ryan Cause we want more spaceships in our spaceship game and less fukn dress up dolls. And we have been saying it for years, but those @$$hats are not listening!
Why even more spaceships? Isn't it enough?
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