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Kari Trace
Advanced Tactics and Manufacturing Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2012.09.12 17:08:00 -
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...the character Vile Rat Foundation is not a charity.
Do not provide isk to it-- please kill on sight!
Reward offered.
Mail me the API verified kill mail link. AVTM Comms / PvP Officer Kari Trace |

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1692
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Posted - 2012.09.12 17:09:00 -
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Get a life. |

Azdan Amith
Order of Light's Retribution
311
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Posted - 2012.09.12 17:10:00 -
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It's a shame that people will capitalize on everything, even the tragic and senseless killing of a great man. ~Archon Azdan Amith,-á Order of Light's Retribution |

baltec1
Bat Country
2118
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Posted - 2012.09.12 17:10:00 -
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Beat me to it.
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Isabelle Fleise
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.09.12 17:12:00 -
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I wonder if this is bannable. Probably not. It's distasteful, but not actually scamming related to a CCP-organised charity drive. |

Catlos JeminJees
E.M.P. Industries Gentlemen's Agreement
54
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Posted - 2012.09.12 17:14:00 -
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what a **** tard. seting him red to corp |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9479
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Posted - 2012.09.12 17:21:00 -
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Isabelle Fleise wrote:I wonder if this is bannable. Probably not. It's distasteful, but not actually scamming related to a CCP-organised charity drive. It is. It breaks EULA -º2b about impersonation and false representation. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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Ensign X
174
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Posted - 2012.09.12 17:22:00 -
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Isabelle Fleise wrote:I wonder if this is bannable. Probably not. It's distasteful, but not actually scamming related to a CCP-organised charity drive.
It better not be bannable. Considering how many people VR scammed or helped scam, THIS is exactly what he deserves. |

No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1375
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Posted - 2012.09.12 17:22:00 -
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Ban the fool and all his accounts. "Every rifter counts friend" - Vile rat 1978-2012 |

General Nusense
Republic University Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2012.09.12 17:23:00 -
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Kari Trace wrote:...the character Vile Rat Foundation is not a charity.
Do not provide isk to it-- please kill on sight!
Reward offered.
Mail me the API verified kill mail link.
goons have done this before to other people that have passed that were not members of the CFC. so now all of a sudden its different and shouldnt be done because he was a goon?
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Isabelle Fleise
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.09.12 17:24:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Isabelle Fleise wrote:I wonder if this is bannable. Probably not. It's distasteful, but not actually scamming related to a CCP-organised charity drive. It is. It breaks EULA -º2b about impersonation and false representation.
He's not actually impersonating anyone. That's like saying if you name a character "Jita ISK Doubler" it's a EULA breach if you don't actually double peoples isk. |

baltec1
Bat Country
2120
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Posted - 2012.09.12 17:25:00 -
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General Nusense wrote:
goons have done this before to other people that have passed that were not members of the CFC. so now all of a sudden its different and shouldnt be done because he was a goon?
There a difference between scamming someone out of a carrier and scamming people who think they a donating to a murdered mans wife and children.
Goons have never and will never scam a plex for charity for a RL incident. |

Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
842
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Posted - 2012.09.12 17:25:00 -
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General Nusense wrote:goons have done this before to other people that have passed that were not members of the CFC. so now all of a sudden its different and shouldnt be done because he was a goon?
When did we do this, and to who? Be specific. Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
4596
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Posted - 2012.09.12 17:26:00 -
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General Nusense wrote:Kari Trace wrote:...the character Vile Rat Foundation is not a charity.
Do not provide isk to it-- please kill on sight!
Reward offered.
Mail me the API verified kill mail link. goons have done this before to other people that have passed that were not members of the CFC. so now all of a sudden its different and shouldnt be done because he was a goon?
Link please?
Or is this an "everybody knows" that doesn't rely on mere facts? Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9480
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Posted - 2012.09.12 17:27:00 -
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Isabelle Fleise wrote:He's not actually impersonating anyone. GǪexcept that he's using a well-known name to impersonate and falsely represent an on-going community effort.
Don't worry. People have been tossed out for far less before.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1954
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Posted - 2012.09.12 17:29:00 -
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Glad to see we're back to the norm, life goes on. "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |

tgl3
Wormhole Engineers Greater Realms
158
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Posted - 2012.09.12 17:30:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:General Nusense wrote:
goons have done this before to other people that have passed that were not members of the CFC. so now all of a sudden its different and shouldnt be done because he was a goon?
There a difference between scamming someone out of a carrier and scamming people who think they a donating to a murdered mans wife and children. Goons have never and will never scam a plex for charity for a RL incident. Not empty quoting. Oh, and GOONS ARE LITERALLY THE DEVIL GUYS I write a blog. I think people read it. http://throughnewbeyes.wordpress.com
Mate |

sevyn nine
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
9
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Posted - 2012.09.12 17:31:00 -
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Yes, please ban and then nuke this thread. I was impressed by how well the community was handling this, then some idiot does something like this. Show some damn respect! We're all real people behind these characters. |

Rats
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
218
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Posted - 2012.09.12 17:32:00 -
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Ensign X wrote:Isabelle Fleise wrote:I wonder if this is bannable. Probably not. It's distasteful, but not actually scamming related to a CCP-organised charity drive. It better not be bannable. Considering how many people VR scammed or helped scam, THIS is exactly what he deserves.
Have some respect....
Tal
-áI Fought the Law, and the Law Won... -áTalon Silverhawk-á |

Ensign X
176
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Posted - 2012.09.12 17:32:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Isabelle Fleise wrote:He's not actually impersonating anyone. GǪexcept that he's using a well-known name to impersonate and falsely represent an on-going community effort. Don't worry. People have been tossed out for far less before.
You're reaching.
The EULA states:
Quote:No player may use the character name of another player to impersonate or falsely represent his or her identity.
IF CCP wants to stop the Vile Rat Foundation from collecting "donations", which appears to be well within the rules of the sandbox, they'll have to use a lesser known and more obscure rule to do so as the EULA reference you made has no bearing here. |

Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1960
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Posted - 2012.09.12 17:34:00 -
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I thought folks were all about the "emergent gameplay".  "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9480
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Posted - 2012.09.12 17:35:00 -
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Ensign X wrote:IF CCP wants to stop the Vile Rat Foundation from collecting "donations", which appears to be well within the rules of the sandbox, they'll have to use a lesser known and more obscure rule to do so as the EULA reference you made has no bearing here. GǪexcept that he's doing exactly what the rule states he shouldn't be doing, and that they've tossed people out no their ears for far less before. It's not reaching; it's empirics.
Nice to see so much white-knighting for a soon-to-be-banned total fuckwit though. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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Rats
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
218
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Posted - 2012.09.12 17:35:00 -
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Ensign X wrote:Tippia wrote:Isabelle Fleise wrote:He's not actually impersonating anyone. GǪexcept that he's using a well-known name to impersonate and falsely represent an on-going community effort. Don't worry. People have been tossed out for far less before. You're reaching. The EULA states: Quote:No player may use the character name of another player to impersonate or falsely represent his or her identity. IF CCP wants to stop the Vile Rat Foundation from collecting "donations", which appears to be well within the rules of the sandbox, they'll have to use a lesser known and more obscure rule to do so as the EULA reference you made has no bearing here.
What like being a human being with morals you mean ......
Tal
-áI Fought the Law, and the Law Won... -áTalon Silverhawk-á |

Ensign X
178
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Posted - 2012.09.12 17:36:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:I thought folks were all about the "emergent gameplay". 
"They" are, but only when "they" make the decision about how, when and where the "emergent gameplay" takes place. |

baltec1
Bat Country
2120
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Posted - 2012.09.12 17:38:00 -
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Ensign X wrote: IF CCP wants to stop the Vile Rat Foundation from collecting "donations", which appears to be well within the rules of the sandbox, they'll have to use a lesser known and more obscure rule to do so as the EULA reference you made has no bearing here.
People have been banned for trying to scam donations to a RL charity drive before. |

Ensign X
178
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Posted - 2012.09.12 17:39:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Ensign X wrote:IF CCP wants to stop the Vile Rat Foundation from collecting "donations", which appears to be well within the rules of the sandbox, they'll have to use a lesser known and more obscure rule to do so as the EULA reference you made has no bearing here. GǪexcept that he's doing exactly what the rule states he shouldn't be doing, and that they've tossed people out no their ears for far less before. It's not reaching; it's empirics. Nice to see so much white-knighting for a soon-to-be-banned total fuckwit though.
Definitely not white-knighting the guy, but definitely his right to scam, which Vile Rat would also do, had he the ability to do so. |

Rats
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
218
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Posted - 2012.09.12 17:39:00 -
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Ensign X wrote:Paul Oliver wrote:I thought folks were all about the "emergent gameplay".  "They" are, but only when "they" make the decision about how, when and where the "emergent gameplay" takes place.
Don't see what emergent game play has to do with real life tragedy ?
Tal
-áI Fought the Law, and the Law Won... -áTalon Silverhawk-á |

Yokai Mitsuhide
Exiled Mining
2982
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Posted - 2012.09.12 17:40:00 -
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This is just disrespectful, and inappropriate imo. Should not be allowed. |

Ensign X
178
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Posted - 2012.09.12 17:41:00 -
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Rats wrote:Ensign X wrote:Paul Oliver wrote:I thought folks were all about the "emergent gameplay".  "They" are, but only when "they" make the decision about how, when and where the "emergent gameplay" takes place. Don't see what emergent game play has to do with real life tragedy ? Tal
Don't see what real life tragedy has to do with EVE Online, but here we are anyway. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9480
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Posted - 2012.09.12 17:41:00 -
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Ensign X wrote:Definitely not white-knighting the guy, but definitely his right to scam Fortunately, CCP disagrees with you.
He has every right to scam people. He does not have the right to falsely represent RL-charities.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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