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Myra2007 Millstone Industries	Posted - 2011.06.22 01:06:00 - [331] Look at it this way: it's all about immersion. Notice how the government in real life also screws you like that and everything costs twice as much as it used to do? Bingo! Remember eve is real and that's sort of expensive. -- Originally by: CCP Elais It was a great Frankenstein moment [...] to see the forum [...] come alive.
QT McWhiskers EdgeGamers Situation Normal.	Posted - 2011.06.22 01:06:00 - [332] CCP... Did you change out your finance team? Hire a new director of marketing? Hire new guys who do not remember that games are not for the developers? They are for the gamers. On the test server, the price of clothing was 1 aurum. Most of us understood this was probably a test server price. Most of us knew that the price would increase, however none of us suspected items that would cost MORE than a plex. CCP you guys have seriously let me down. First you want to monetize our third party apps because you feel you are owed a share of the money, now you offer us vanity items that cost 15-80US. I am scared to think of how much the scorp skin will be. 200k aurum? Lets look at a few things. For 2 billion isk, I can buy and faction fit a nightmare, or I can clothe my characters. For 1.2billion isk, I can get a carrier + some of the fittings (not all)... or I can get a ****ing monicle. You realize that no one is happy with you right now CPP? Do you know that many people in fact are starting to see similarities between you and apple or EA right now?
Henrica Gaufridus	Posted - 2011.06.22 01:06:00 - [333] How is it that, out of all the items available to me, the boots are the cheapest? Also, CCP, ONE pair of shoes available for women on NEX? Do you have no women amongst your staff? How do you expect me to survive with ONE pair of high-heeled shoes? I demand MORE SHOES. I need shoes to not only go with the excursion pants I'd like to own, but another pair to go with the skirt that I'm going to have to sell three of my battleships in order to be able to afford! Then I'll need at LEAST a dozen or so more variations as "just in case I find a cute dress that would go great with that pair" shoes. Get with the program, CCP. Your female players DEMAND MORE SHOES.
Katrina Cortez	Posted - 2011.06.22 01:07:00 - [334] Yeah a shirt costs a month of game time, 400mil ISK, or 1/3 of a fully fit carrier...lol
Seleene	Posted - 2011.06.22 01:07:00 - [335] [ 2011.06.21 23:54:18 ] CCP Zinfandel > That is also the standard technique in the industry. In our case, it was exceptionally necessary due to the huge size of PLEX. [ 2011.06.21 23:55:03 ] CCP Zinfandel > Incub: 12000 Aurum. The comma is an Americanism. [ 2011.06.21 23:57:03 ] CCP Zinfandel > The store only has a few items in it so far. But more will be added. We hope to add a few pieces each week. We started with items which can be purchased and used without needing a special interface. [ 2011.06.21 23:57:18 ] CCP Zinfandel > Painting a ship requires a little more work before we will be able to offer it. But it is planned. [ 2011.06.21 23:57:26 ] Sofia Roseburn > Zinfandel, these prices are actually correct? [ 2011.06.21 23:58:35 ] CCP Zinfandel > Sofia Roseburn - there will be a number of items at different prices over time. Also, these items will be offered on special from time to time. Some of the items are expensive. [ 2011.06.22 00:00:44 ] CCP Zinfandel > The Looking Glass Ocular Implant (right/gold) is fairly expensive. It's also a machine being installed into your eye and one would not want to buy a cheap version of something to go in your face. [ 2011.06.22 00:04:15 ] CCP Zinfandel > Hello Kyle - we have been talking about the prices regularly in here. There are expensive items in the shop. Noble Appliances Corporation opened these shops particularly to target the wealthy capsuleer community. [ 2011.06.22 00:04:45 ] CCP Zinfandel > The selection of items in the store will change from time to time as the capsuleers purchase things and new items arrive (hopefully a few each week.) [ 2011.06.22 00:05:22 ] CCP Zinfandel > Prices will vary between items and occasionally things will go on sale. Don't forget that the market also has a number of items for sale already and those prices should stabilize over time as well. [ 2011.06.22 00:16:42 ] CCP Zinfandel > Chewiest - decorating will come eventually, hopefully later this year. [ 2011.06.22 00:19:32 ] CCP Zinfandel > Rion Deteisan - we are slowly receiving more items to sell in the store and we are saving things to introduce new items each week. [ 2011.06.22 00:23:09 ] CCP Zinfandel > Elina Tan - we are introducing new clothing fashions in sets with themes. This set is themed "Military" and will continue for months. We also have fashion designers creating a line for "Corporate" and one for "Cyberpunk." [ 2011.06.22 00:23:15 ] CCP Zinfandel > Those will come later. [ 2011.06.22 00:23:30 ] CCP Zinfandel > And they are being designed by RL fashion designers. [ 2011.06.22 00:24:47 ] CCP Zinfandel > One of the fashion designers is New York based. Another is Reykjavik based. [ 2011.06.22 00:27:07 ] CCP Zinfandel > JordanTwoDelta - you will see the ISK market prices stablize over time. Initially, hype will make people spend more than they should. I counsel a little patience. ;-) [ 2011.06.22 00:29:26 ] CCP Zinfandel > Rion Deteisan - we are adding a little more each week (probably on Tuesdays.) ---- Seleene's Sandbox - My Blog, where I say stuff.
Adacia Calla Minmatar Firebird Squadron Terra-Incognita	Posted - 2011.06.22 01:07:00 - [336] Originally by: Hildegaard Russell Originally by: Morrigun Rakari You know, I think CCP have failed to grasp precisely what the word "Micro" in "Microtransactions" actually means. Hugely expensive items is not how to make money from cash shops, CCP. People don't buy one $15 - they buy 20 75c items. Exactly, if they were 1$ each I'd buy a dozen, but 30-80$ for a single item is **ing ****ed.
Arya Greywolf	Posted - 2011.06.22 01:10:00 - [337] Originally by: Chewiest Bong Originally by: Arya Greywolf Pretty f'n hilarious prices. Not like I was going to buy them anyway. You're better off not buying them. You're essentially supporting the poor decision making process of the developers / making them richer for their sheer stupidity. Anyone who uses AUR to purchase items in game is simply rewarding bad decision making. That said, once my plex runs out in two weeks, I don't see myself re-subscribing. Absolutely ridiculous to have two separate currencies; it's plainly obvious that they're trying to fleece people out of much money as possible. Hmm. I could take my fiance out to a nice dinner at a 4 star restaraunt.. or I could buy a pair of underwear in game that only I can see. The end is mine to write. Goodbye Eve. Indeed. I was never planning on buying clothing for my barbi doll - didn't even look @ the store. I was doing a mission a bit earlier and someone posted in local that a monocle = roughly 1.6 billion and I almost spit up my dinner from laughing so hard.
Bane Necran Furtim Vigilans	Posted - 2011.06.22 01:11:00 - [338] Originally by: Chewiest Bong Originally by: Bane Necran How many people raging in this thread have a double digit IQ? Answer honestly, now. I have a graduate degree in biochemistry. It doesn't negate the fact that there is no clear rationale for having two separate currencies to buy vanity items -- especially when you can only get AUR thru plex. That's either 400 mil ISK or 15 USD for an item in game that can be seen only by you. Ridiculous, no? No, it's not ridiculous. I spent about 2 billion on ships i never intend to fly anywhere, just to have them. Am i pretending CCP asked me for real world currency to do that? Am i losing my mind that no one knows i have them? No, i'm not. That would be ridiculous.
Grimnir	Posted - 2011.06.22 01:11:00 - [339] Originally by: General Xenophon I am completely and utterly appalled that a pay to play game has added this stupid feature that so REEKS of 'free to play with - item shop' bull***! Shame on you CCP! You've sold out your players for this gimmick to make more money! This is a stupid stupid idea and you're business strategist should be fired immediately and replaced with someone who actually DOES have something larger than a peanut floating between their ears! Would you mind pointing me to the bit where it says that you need these features to play* the game ?
Cosmoes Minmatar	Posted - 2011.06.22 01:11:00 - [340] ahem real life monocle prices Ranges between $25 to $39 for a real life monocle... ------------------- piccy

Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.06.22 01:11:00 - [341] Originally by: Adacia Calla Originally by: Hildegaard Russell Originally by: Morrigun Rakari You know, I think CCP have failed to grasp precisely what the word "Micro" in "Microtransactions" actually means. Hugely expensive items is not how to make money from cash shops, CCP. People don't buy one $15 - they buy 20 75c items. Exactly, if they were 1$ each I'd buy a dozen, but 30-80$ for a single item is **ing ***ed. Also, if they wanted to create an in-game market and fill up order in the "Apparel" category, this won't do it ù to get that market flowing, you need hundreds, if not thousands of buy and sell orders being entered and filled. With these prices, people will buy one. For themselves. And never put it on the market. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki*
GrimmWolf	Posted - 2011.06.22 01:11:00 - [342] So don't buy anything. Go play the game. WoW is that way -----> The complaining on these boards is terrible.
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.22 01:11:00 - [343] Originally by: Seleene [ 2011.06.21 23:54:18 ] CCP Zinfandel > That is also the standard technique in the industry. In our case, it was exceptionally necessary due to the huge size of PLEX. SNIP [ 2011.06.22 00:29:26 ] CCP Zinfandel > Rion Deteisan - we are adding a little more each week (probably on Tuesdays.) Thanks for posting this... if you could get CCP to put some of this somewhere more permanent where we can ALL see it that would be good. Dev blogs galore are probably required at this point... plus some forum posts... -------- By Grfmsv÷tn, Eyjafjallaj÷kull, Vatnaj÷kull, and Hekla itself... THIS is my sig. Support Optional CQ
Kerrisone	Posted - 2011.06.22 01:12:00 - [344] Originally by: Creepy Goat Here is a quote I agree with: [00:44:42] CCP Zinfandel > Some people treat EVE Online not as a video game but as a hobby. They enjoy investing in their hobby and find that it makes them feel more connected with their hobby. We want to support that for those players who want it. However THIS DOES NOT JUSTIFY AURUM PRICES. I don't care for avatar stuff but do love colelcting and flying rare/expensive ships. I can see AURUM ships costing tens of billions for what is effectively a reskin. That makes me sad. It is a 'hobby' when CCP wants people to invest in it for their profit margins but it is business when those same hobbyists put their time and effort into creating applications, websites, provide services for Eve players and the community with the goal of not making a profit on their efforts. Accepting the good will of players, donations, or allowing ad traffic mean CCP demands $99 for a 'commerical license' from those hobbyists.
Kurj Valdoria Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.22 01:13:00 - [345] This is my fault everyone. Someone at CCP found out I spent like...........1500 dollars on hats and crap for TF2. I suppose they figured idiots like me would spend BIG CASH for stupid eve ingame items. The reality is the hats in TF2 have burning flames and these hats do NOT.
Rellik B00n Lethal Death Squad	Posted - 2011.06.22 01:14:00 - [346] MY AVATAR WAS EQUIPPED WITH THE FOLLOWING . -IRON MIKE IS hi sec lolwarrior-
Chewiest Bong	Posted - 2011.06.22 01:14:00 - [347] Originally by: Seleene [ 2011.06.21 23:54:18 ] CCP Zinfandel > That is also the standard technique in the industry. In our case, it was exceptionally necessary due to the huge size of PLEX. [ 2011.06.21 23:55:03 ] CCP Zinfandel > Incub: 12000 Aurum. The comma is an Americanism. [ 2011.06.21 23:57:03 ] CCP Zinfandel > The store only has a few items in it so far. But more will be added. We hope to add a few pieces each week. We started with items which can be purchased and used without needing a special interface. [ 2011.06.21 23:57:18 ] CCP Zinfandel > Painting a ship requires a little more work before we will be able to offer it. But it is planned. [ 2011.06.21 23:57:26 ] Sofia Roseburn > Zinfandel, these prices are actually correct? [ 2011.06.21 23:58:35 ] CCP Zinfandel > Sofia Roseburn - there will be a number of items at different prices over time. Also, these items will be offered on special from time to time. Some of the items are expensive. [ 2011.06.22 00:00:44 ] CCP Zinfandel > The Looking Glass Ocular Implant (right/gold) is fairly expensive. It's also a machine being installed into your eye and one would not want to buy a cheap version of something to go in your face. [ 2011.06.22 00:04:15 ] CCP Zinfandel > Hello Kyle - we have been talking about the prices regularly in here. There are expensive items in the shop. Noble Appliances Corporation opened these shops particularly to target the wealthy capsuleer community. [ 2011.06.22 00:04:45 ] CCP Zinfandel > The selection of items in the store will change from time to time as the capsuleers purchase things and new items arrive (hopefully a few each week.) [ 2011.06.22 00:05:22 ] CCP Zinfandel > Prices will vary between items and occasionally things will go on sale. Don't forget that the market also has a number of items for sale already and those prices should stabilize over time as well. [ 2011.06.22 00:16:42 ] CCP Zinfandel > Chewiest - decorating will come eventually, hopefully later this year. [ 2011.06.22 00:19:32 ] CCP Zinfandel > Rion Deteisan - we are slowly receiving more items to sell in the store and we are saving things to introduce new items each week. [ 2011.06.22 00:23:09 ] CCP Zinfandel > Elina Tan - we are introducing new clothing fashions in sets with themes. This set is themed "Military" and will continue for months. We also have fashion designers creating a line for "Corporate" and one for "Cyberpunk." [ 2011.06.22 00:23:15 ] CCP Zinfandel > Those will come later. [ 2011.06.22 00:23:30 ] CCP Zinfandel > And they are being designed by RL fashion designers. [ 2011.06.22 00:24:47 ] CCP Zinfandel > One of the fashion designers is New York based. Another is Reykjavik based. [ 2011.06.22 00:27:07 ] CCP Zinfandel > JordanTwoDelta - you will see the ISK market prices stablize over time. Initially, hype will make people spend more than they should. I counsel a little patience. ;-) [ 2011.06.22 00:29:26 ] CCP Zinfandel > Rion Deteisan - we are adding a little more each week (probably on Tuesdays.) How is it possible that a marketing lead can be this dumb? Did this guy even graduate high school?
Dimitri Fukoyama	Posted - 2011.06.22 01:14:00 - [348] Man this is just gold, **in bean counters, they ** everything they touch
Shaikar Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.22 01:14:00 - [349] Originally by: Jade Constantine This is pretty damned ridiculous. Play eve for a month for free or buy a women's "impress" dress skirt? The prices for these "virtual goods" are a joke. Echoing this. I'm speechless. What the hell?
Rykuss Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.22 01:14:00 - [350] Originally by: Chewiest Bong Originally by: Arya Greywolf Pretty f'n hilarious prices. Not like I was going to buy them anyway. You're better off not buying them. You're essentially supporting the poor decision making process of the developers / making them richer for their sheer stupidity. Anyone who uses AUR to purchase items in game is simply rewarding bad decision making. That said, once my plex runs out in two weeks, I don't see myself re-subscribing. Absolutely ridiculous to have two separate currencies; it's plainly obvious that they're trying to fleece people out of much money as possible. Hmm. I could take my fiance out to a nice dinner at a 4 star restaraunt.. or I could buy a pair of underwear in game that only I can see. The end is mine to write. Goodbye Eve. Cool down a bit, wait it out and see. If you still decide to leave, can I have your stuff? Can we has a t-shirt that says "I survived teh lulz" for our avatars please? I'd totally effin' buy that!

Mars Theran Caldari EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.22 01:14:00 - [351] Vanity items = Big ISK. Big deal. For those of you that want to wear another pair of pants, I say go for it if you have the ISK. That's what it's all about isn't it. Really, the new boots only amount to about $10, which is alright. Can't say I'll split a PLEX for it, but I never intended to. I've got better things to spend my ISK on. Ships for example. Captains Quarters are actually amazing. I can't believe such a simple change actual brought me a little bit of immersion. Honestly never expected that, and never realized how droll and boring the old ship hangar was. Current PLEX to AURUM Conversion is fine, and the cost of a pair of pants is fine too. For one, selection isn't exactly on par with Bloomingdales or even Sears, and two, there really is no need to buy them as we already have pants. I'm happy with my Black combats to be honest. Frakin' awesome! Also, if they were cheap, PLEX would go through the roof again, and this is more likely to bring them down to a more reasonable level. It's cool. Did I mention I loved the Captains Quarters? Of course I did. Running at 60 FPS still, with no problems, and if my GPUs a little hot, it's probably because it's a little hot today and I haven't dusted in awhile. Looks awesome, even if the load time is a bit excessive. Memory usage on client start was >2GBs, but dropped to around 1.5GBs when loaded and active. First time I've enjoyed sitting in a station in 2 years.
Eclorc	Posted - 2011.06.22 01:15:00 - [352] I feel bloody sorry for the real devs that actually DO care about Eve, the game, the life, and the technical beauty of her. If I were in their position, thoughts of revolt and hostile takeover, viking-style, to topple the suits and greedmongers would be in my mind right about now. Not sure, sadly, how to interpret this statement from help channel.. [ 2011.06.22 00:51:07 ] CCP Chiliad > I would never bother to complain about I game I didn't care for ;) There's limits to taking things for granted.
Arya Greywolf	Posted - 2011.06.22 01:15:00 - [353] Originally by: Cosmoes ahem real life monocle prices Ranges between $25 to $39 for a real life monocle... Ooooohhhh, I think I like the classic silver monocle - very elegant. Even comes with a soft case!
Morgan Polaris	Posted - 2011.06.22 01:15:00 - [354] Originally by: GrimmWolf So don't buy anything. Go play the game. WoW is that way -----> The complaining on these boards is terrible. Not the point.
Linda Shadowborn Gallente Dark Steel Industries	Posted - 2011.06.22 01:15:00 - [355] I even planned to spend plexes on this.. but now.. no way.. sorry ccp..
stoicfaux Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.22 01:15:00 - [356] Plan B. 1. Drive to Toys R Us (the one that's 20 minutes away) in my SUV. 2. Buy a barbie doll, err... buy an action figure and some ~~doll~~ action figure clothing and maybe some paint. 3. Dress and/or paint my ~~doll~~ action figure. 4. Hold my ~~action f~~ err... doll, no err... action figure in front of my monitor and pretend to walk around in my CQ. P.S. It's wise to close the door so your spouse doesn't see what you're doing when you're docked. ----- "Are you a sociopathic paranoid schizophrenic with accounting skills? We have the game for you! -- Eve, the game of Alts, Economics, Machiavelli, and PvP"
Major Stallion The Dark Horses.	Posted - 2011.06.22 01:16:00 - [357] Originally by: Outlaw Jenner Yup was planning on having some fun with the plexes I've had stockpiled but I'll just continue to play for free for the next 5 years instead of feeding the cash cow you know even if you dont sell your plexes, CCP has already made money on the sale of them right?
Morgan Polaris	Posted - 2011.06.22 01:17:00 - [358] Originally by: stoicfaux Plan B. 1. Drive to Toys R Us (the one that's 20 minutes away) in my SUV. 2. Buy a barbie doll, err... buy an action figure and some ~~doll~~ action figure clothing and maybe some paint. 3. Dress and/or paint my ~~doll~~ action figure. 4. Hold my ~~action f~~ err... doll, no err... action figure in front of my monitor and pretend to walk around in my CQ. P.S. It's wise to close the door so your spouse doesn't see what you're doing when you're docked. Hell get some boxes and ducktape and you'd probably do a better job than this little sideshow.
Infinint Interwebs Cooter Explosion Important Internet Spaceship League	Posted - 2011.06.22 01:18:00 - [359] I used to make fun of some of my friends for playing a certain valve game that features an overly priced cash shop. Now this is just embarrassing.
Mordrake Freelance Economics Astrological resources Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2011.06.22 01:18:00 - [360] Cmon Guys and Gals ya got to admit that was a jaw dropper to see and after the shock wore off I laughed my freakin arse off ; ] OMG I think I even ****ed myself a lil bit.. "Arte et Marte"



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[00:44:42] CCP Zinfandel > Some people treat EVE Online not as a video game but as a hobby. They enjoy investing in their hobby and find that it makes them feel more connected with their hobby. We want to support that for those players who want it.