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Loraine Gess
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:43:00 -
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 Originally by: Amaia Sirin
Originally by: CCP Guard
It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Well, there goes my subscription I guess. This situation is one of the biggest clusterfudges in CCP history and the community team is cracking jokes about it instead of finding answers or doing damage control. Great work guys.
Bye, see you never, won't miss you, etc.
Please contract all items to "Loraine Gess".
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When I mitigate risks in business, they call me financially sound.
When I mitigate risk in PVP, they call me a coward.
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Solvia
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:44:00 -
[32]
 I wounder if the time then they realise their virtual shirt is more expencive then a real-life counterpart will come any time soon?
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Holy One
Quiet.Storm
Frater Adhuc Excessum
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:46:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Solvia
I wounder if the time then they realise their virtual shirt is more expencive then a real-life counterpart will come any time soon?
Isn't beer $15 a pint in Iceland? Shudder to imagine how much a pair of shoes costs.
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:46:00 -
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These should be high-value items. Making them accessible to all just devalues them. If the spotty teenager working at McDonalds has a monocle, why would anyone else want one?
Given the amount of ISK in the game these days, 1 billion ISK makes sense, frankly.
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Thinly Veiled
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:48:00 -
[35]
No wonder they didnt want to call them Microtransactions in the tournament panel xD
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Holy One
Quiet.Storm
Frater Adhuc Excessum
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:48:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Gypsio III
These should be high-value items. Making them accessible to all just devalues them. If the spotty teenager working at McDonalds has a monocle, why would anyone else want one?
You just described the eve typical eve customer ..
Since he's going to be physically repugnant and consequently celibate he can probably afford to buy pretend clothes for his physically perfect virtual alter ego. And consider it good value! 
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Hyperforce99
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:49:00 -
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Edited by: Hyperforce99 on 22/06/2011 10:49:48
Originally by: CCP Guard
It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Perhaps you have missed the significance of this the OPs post.
Micro transactions imply small amounts of money. Most games that use micro-transactions won't ask more than 5$ at most for things like these. And that's already cutting it close to being unacceptable. Valves MANN-CO is only as successful as it is because its based around TEAM FORTRESS 2 in which the main reason to look different is because you interact with other people that look exactly the same as you. And even there a different hat is no more than 3 $ at most. Pricing shirts, at around 20 dollars a piece is simply idiotic. Everyone that has a monocle right now will be the laughing stock of EVE because they were gullible and idiotic enough to spend 80 dollars to buy a piece of digital eyeware.
I'd rather pay 2 or 3 dollars more for my monthly subscription then having to see CCP act scrooge MC duck or worse... ACTIVISION! 
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Pearly Spencer
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:49:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Guard
It's all in the eye of the beholder.
I think that is the first blue response on the subject and this is what you say??
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Bibosikus
Gallente
Universal Moose Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:51:00 -
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Maybe the monocle was designed by HR Geiger or something... I'm just gobsmacked
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Dierdra Vaal
Caldari
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:51:00 -
[40]
Edited by: Dierdra Vaal on 22/06/2011 10:54:13
given how much these items cost in RL money, maybe they're actually intended to be a minor PLEX sink?
People with too much ISK (the kind of people who don't care about a billion more or less) can buy PLEX, convert them to spacegold and buy a monocle/boots/whatever. It seems more likely than someone spending $50 on a virtual space monocle that nobody else can see.
Not that I'm sad about it - the less people actually using the store the better imo. (yes I'm bitter)
Veto #205
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CSM1 delegate, CSM3 chairman and CSM5 vice-chairman
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Ludacrys
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:51:00 -
[41]
HOW did you miss the WHOLE POINT of MICROTRANSACTIONS? ITS IN THE BLOODY NAME!
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Orphan World
Kitzless
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:55:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Dierdra Vaal
given how much these items cost in RL money, maybe they're actually intended to be a minor PLEX sink?
People with too much ISK (the kind of people who don't care about a billion more or less) can buy PLEX, convert them to spacegold and buy a monocle/boots/whatever. It seems more likely than someone spending $50 on a virtual space monocle that nobody else can see.
If the items had been much cheaper in AUR, a larger percentage of the playerbase would have bought and spent PLEXes. I'm pretty sure that five people cracking open one PLEX each is better for CCP than a single player cracking open four.
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Velani Askiras
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:55:00 -
[43]
Originally by: CCP Guard
It's all in the eye of the beholder.
I'm a new player and all that, but your response is just wrong, not sure what else to say.
However, my eye tells me that i better not open the AURUM shop again until the prices get reduced to normal microtransaction standards.
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Terianna Eri
Senex Legio
Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:57:00 -
[44]
Originally by: CCP Guard
It's all in the eye of the beholder.
GET
OUT
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Originally by: CCP Incognito
PS the "time to P*nis" is the shortest time recorded in human history. :)
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Mr Kidd
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:01:00 -
[45]
Originally by: James Lyrus
Originally by: Amaia Sirin
Originally by: CCP Guard
It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Well, there goes my subscription I guess. This situation is one of the biggest clusterfudges in CCP history and the community team is cracking jokes about it instead of finding answers or doing damage control. Great work guys.
Really. It's optional content.
Prices might change.
They might not.
But either way, I don't much care.
Yesterday I thought the same thing. Then I slept on it and decided that we should care because in its current state MT EXCLUDES a vast majority of players even if they WANTED to do it. What's disturbing is that is where development resources are going instead of fixing problems and creating REAL content. That is why everyone should care about this fiasco. It's CCP giving a big FU to its own playerbase.
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SiIver Twin
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:03:00 -
[46]
Edited by: SiIver Twin on 22/06/2011 11:04:00
So what you're saying is... you can either buy any faction battleship of your choosing or dreadnaught or carrier... or you can have a monocle. That sounds like a sweet deal to me!
Look, Just take the ****ING Aurum label off my wallet, I haven't been giving you money for 7 years so you can **** with my game. Put station spinny back to default with Captains Quarters as an optional extra (as you initially promised it)
To be honest I don't give a **** about the Noble Exchange, or the walking about in stations... All I want is the old functionality of MY game back. If you want to add all this fluff go ahead but make them optional.
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Amaia Sirin
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:06:00 -
[47]
Originally by: James Lyrus
Originally by: Amaia Sirin
Originally by: CCP Guard
It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Well, there goes my subscription I guess. This situation is one of the biggest clusterfudges in CCP history and the community team is cracking jokes about it instead of finding answers or doing damage control. Great work guys.
Really. It's optional content.
Prices might change.
They might not.
But either way, I don't much care.
I'm more annoyed with CCP's inability to take their community communication seriously, especially in situations like these when a vast portion of their customers are voicing legitimate concerns.
However much the NeX situation has my skin crawling, Guard's reply is an order of magnitude worse.
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Merasa Tro
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:07:00 -
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I'm not bothered either way about vanity stuff. Its vanity, you want it, pay for it, enjoy it. You dont want it, dont pay for it. Simples.
HOWEVER... What does concern me is that this will have impact on PLEX pricing. Its a market, supply demand.
If (as I expect) it drives plex pricing up (convert plex into Aurum means fewer plex, more demand, higher prices).
Higher plex prices mean people without real world cash/ability to pay for the game have to pay more isk for plex, eventually it becomes impossible for them to play enough to pay to play. So they just cant afford to play.
Which means my mates in corp/alliance even the enemy stop playing.
I hope it works out, but choosing plex to do this was a bad idea IMHO.
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Lucilla Giulia
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:07:00 -
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[ 2011.06.22 00:00:44 ] CCP Zinfandel > The Looking Glass Ocular Implant (right/gold) is fairly expensive. It's also a machine being installed into your eye and one would not want to buy a cheap version of something to go in your face.
you guys have it all wrong, is not about MT is about roleplay
besides, if i get podded i loose my implants, y whouldn't i loose my clothes and/or eyepatches?i mean always considering it form a roleplay pov...
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:08:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Mr Kidd
Originally by: James Lyrus
Originally by: Amaia Sirin
Originally by: CCP Guard
It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Well, there goes my subscription I guess. This situation is one of the biggest clusterfudges in CCP history and the community team is cracking jokes about it instead of finding answers or doing damage control. Great work guys.
Really. It's optional content.
Prices might change.
They might not.
But either way, I don't much care.
Yesterday I thought the same thing. Then I slept on it and decided that we should care because in its current state MT EXCLUDES a vast majority of players even if they WANTED to do it. What's disturbing is that is where development resources are going instead of fixing problems and creating REAL content. That is why everyone should care about this fiasco. It's CCP giving a big FU to its own playerbase.
Nah, it doesn't. Making a billion isk, then buying your aurum isn't particularly difficult. It's just not 'ickle newbie' territory.
But surely, part of the point of vanity items is exclusivity? To show that you're so much of a badass, that not only do you pimp your ship, but you pimp your wardrobe too.
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Ludacrys
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:09:00 -
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Maybe its all a trick, OUTRAGEOUS prices now then they lower them to plain RIPOFF levels because of "community demand"
Is ccp haggling with us?
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ed jeni
SKULLDOGS
RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:09:00 -
[52]
TBH this is typical of how CCP now see EVE as a way and means of now milking the playerbase while they sit in their ivory tower looking down on the space game the created while they stroke white fluffy cats.
its fairly obvious that the majority of devs have been told to focus on projects that will generate new sign ups, that vid of hillmar whooping as the sign up figure rises make perfect sense now.
the game i loved to play since day 1 has slowly changed its focus away from providing a fun challenge and worthwhile time sink to the goose that lays golden eggs for its investors and i cant help but feel we are getting the finger from ccp devs who plan future updates and wave the nerfbat, obviously they are now too busy attending confrences and doing important corperate meetings to even play the game they created the fun beership flying ccp staff have now been locked in a box in the basement less they say anything to upset the investors.
but no i will keep my stuffs and continue to play until a viable alternative comes to market, then i will emo quit post and you can ask for my assets.
regarding the MT store, its a joke of pythonesque proportions and atypical of how things are going, but remember its only a store and there is no need to spend your plex's on $60 eyewear, and if you do then your the kind of saps that ccp want in there spaceship game, until the $100 beanie hat that gives you a 10% bonus to tracking appears then i will avoid the MT store and its obvious bullcrap items.
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Ciar Meara
Amarr
Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:10:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Amaia Sirin
However much the NeX situation has my skin crawling, Guard's reply is an order of magnitude worse.
He's just being a ****, it seems to be a prerequisite for CCP hires these days
Probably linked to recruiting from inside the old fanbase (inbreeding)
Anyways, Sad.
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green martian
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:10:00 -
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They arent going to be able to lower the prices now - what would they tell the idiots who already bought their pointless eye piece which no 1 else can see. 'Oh yeah sorry about that but thanks for all the $$$$ anyway'
What a load of crap
on a side note - everybody i know in game has turned off CQ already with the exeption of 1 guy who sits in jita all day. Juat wait for the forum war when they take out the option to ignore this crappy patch, then CCP will realise they should have listened to players who have loyaly supported them for so long and shouldnt have pandered to WOW players who wont stay playing eve anyway as its too hard and cutthroat for them. well done CCP you dun flucked up this time duhh
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:11:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Merasa Tro
I'm not bothered either way about vanity stuff. Its vanity, you want it, pay for it, enjoy it. You dont want it, dont pay for it. Simples.
HOWEVER... What does concern me is that this will have impact on PLEX pricing. Its a market, supply demand.
If (as I expect) it drives plex pricing up (convert plex into Aurum means fewer plex, more demand, higher prices).
Higher plex prices mean people without real world cash/ability to pay for the game have to pay more isk for plex, eventually it becomes impossible for them to play enough to pay to play. So they just cant afford to play.
Which means my mates in corp/alliance even the enemy stop playing.
I hope it works out, but choosing plex to do this was a bad idea IMHO.
No, not really. Because there's people who'd also choose to fire plex into the system, to capitalize on the higher price, where it's not usually 'worth it'.
And frankly, if you're too short of cash to pay your sub, perhaps you might want to consider your life priorities - playing games really _should_ be taking a lower priority than earning a living.
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Aquana Abyss
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:11:00 -
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You're all fools for wanting to convert game time (useful) to vanity items (useless) in the first place whatever the price.
CCP are doing us a favour by pricing them that high - only complete idiots will waste game time now, and if CCP want to exploit those rare idiots - fine by me.
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:12:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Mr Kidd
Then I slept on it and decided that we should care because in its current state MT EXCLUDES a vast majority of players even if they WANTED to do it.
These items are status symbols. A status symbol that is accessible to all is an oxymoron. By definition, they must not be available to the vast majority of players.
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COMEATMEBRO IMHERE
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:12:00 -
[58]
Originally by: CCP Guard
It's all in the eye of the beholder.
they see me trollin they hatin
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Zoroa Aulx-Gao
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:13:00 -
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It's the NOBLE exchange you pennyless serfs, those with out the billions of ISK required to look swagged out may only bask in the royalty of others monocles.
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Kez Aumer
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:14:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Gypsio III
Originally by: Mr Kidd
A status symbol that is accessible to all is an oxymoron.
Kinda like a status symbol noone else will see, right?
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