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Bibosikus
Gallente Universal Moose Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:22:00 -
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OK So I dropped in at Dodixie, and had a look at the Noble Exchange.
An Eye patch (monocle, whatever you want to tall it) costs 12,000 Aurum. One PLEX gets you 3,500 Aurum.
At current market prices (390m isk PLEX), that means I'll have to spend over 1.3 Bill isk just to slap a piece of metal over my char's right eye.
I am assuming this might.. er.. settle down a bit at some point?
Because atm this is just a right noble rip-off :s
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Syphon Lodian
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:23:00 -
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You're not of proper Nobility to buy anything from the Noble market, get out of my EVE you peasant. ------------------------------------------------- Go pod yourself. |

Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:25:00 -
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Edited by: Miilla on 22/06/2011 10:25:52 so, AURUM is a failure at those prices
AHHAHAHAHAH
WTS Eyepatch, 1 billion isk!!! Click here!
AURUM is a scammers PARADISE!
That shows one thing, CCP really hope to MILK REAL MONEY Out of you all. hahah
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Holy One
Quiet.Storm Frater Adhuc Excessum
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:25:00 -
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I sold mine and bought a Thanatos and 5 vagabonds. Had enough left over for 30 days of game time. 
Simples!
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Wacktopia
Dark Side Of The Womb
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:25:00 -
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In b4 Akita
Also.... yeah, great isn't it? Bye bye immersion.
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Anderson Tane
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:26:00 -
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EVE Online : Patrick Moore Edition Image http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_E5UxviMH7iI/TL7wlvanaOI/AAAAAAAAArQ/lStt_iefy78/s1600/patrickmoore.jpg
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sirtradealot
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:26:00 -
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It's a mere 60 DOLLARS, what are you whining about?
Seems perfectly reasonable for about 6 useless pixels in an internet spaceships game?!?!?!
Whoever came up with this bull**** should be whipped, then fired...
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HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:26:00 -
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They had to have known that we would tell them to go **** themselves. That they even try us like that....amazing.
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Holy One
Quiet.Storm Frater Adhuc Excessum
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:27:00 -
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Edited by: Holy One on 22/06/2011 10:28:36
Originally by: sirtradealot It's a mere 60 DOLLARS, what are you whining about?
Seems perfectly reasonable for about 6 useless pixels in an internet spaceships game?!?!?!
Whoever came up with this bull**** should be whipped, then fired...
Then replaced with some Icelandic dude who tells really funny jokes. 
edit: And that's Sir Patrick if you please. Show some respect! Should be fecking Lord Moore.
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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:28:00 -
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Originally by: Anderson Tane EVE Online : Patrick Moore Edition Image http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_E5UxviMH7iI/TL7wlvanaOI/AAAAAAAAArQ/lStt_iefy78/s1600/patrickmoore.jpg
http://www.techdigest.tv/gamesmaster.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a5tM2kzS7lY/S6nm5lAY7PI/AAAAAAAAAO8/PSDHMBidLXI/s1600/gamesmaster.jpg
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CCP Guard

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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:29:00 -
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It's all in the eye of the beholder.
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James Hawkins
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:30:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
so funny .... not
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San Severina
Minmatar Autocannons Anonymous
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:30:00 -
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Originally by: Wacktopia In b4 Akita
Also.... yeah, great isn't it? Bye bye immersion.
yep, the whole thing is one big bloody awful, ugly, claustrophobic, green, badly lit, resource intense, horrible mess & then there's the lol *cough* (lets call a spade a spade here) CASH GRAB MONEY GRUBBING BASTARDS, launch of vanity items & the new MT currency.
I don't think i see EvE surviving this for me.
I miss pre- incarna EvE already & we all know how flawed that was.
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HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:30:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
That it is lol.
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Seako
Gallente Arx Io Orbital Factories Arx Io
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:31:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Guess a lame attitude answer is the way to go about this insanity.
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Murixo
M. Corp -Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:32:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Not entirely sure why you'd come in here and bait the hundreds of people you've ****ed off with this **** expansion. For the lulz?
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Frau Klaps
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:33:00 -
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I will sell you a digital copy of MY monocle for one (1) million isk. ~~~
(ಠ_ృ)
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Holy One
Quiet.Storm Frater Adhuc Excessum
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:33:00 -
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Originally by: Seako
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Guess a lame attitude answer is the way to go about this insanity.
Trolalalalalalin' ya bra.
HTFU
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Wacktopia
Dark Side Of The Womb
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:33:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
+1 for brave face and laughing with us.
Also - you're a dev but no monocle yet? Bad show, old chap. 
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Milo Caman
Gallente Anshar Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:34:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Originally by: Andreus Ixiris This prediction is entirely accurate. There is literally no way this will not happen:
1. Players will login. 2. Players will generally be disappointed by the exceptionally poor quantity and quality of the material released in the expansion. 3. CCP will ignore valid criticism, chosing instead to joke at the expense of people who make ill-thought out rageposts. 4. Some people will unsubscribe, a lot of people will complain, not enough to make a serious impact on CCP. 5. Business as usual.
We are now at stage 3. ---
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green martian
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:35:00 -
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Just a quick note for anyone stupid enough to buy anything from this new ccpgreedytossers tm store -You WILL NOT see any chang on your avatar - NO ONE else can see your purchases looool The only place you will see your epically expensive crap is in your own quarters and no where else -so as well as being a total rip off its alos totally pointless lol
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Rek Seven
Gallente Zandathorn Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:35:00 -
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Are ccp trying to turn us against them?
I will never buy an item at that price so is there a way for my to get clothing items through playing the game and not having to convert 4 plex?
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Amaia Sirin
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:36:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Well, there goes my subscription I guess. This situation is one of the biggest clusterfudges in CCP history and the community team is cracking jokes about it instead of finding answers or doing damage control. Great work guys.
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Holy One
Quiet.Storm Frater Adhuc Excessum
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:37:00 -
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Ahh dev interaction with the community! Loving it. 
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:38:00 -
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Originally by: Amaia Sirin
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Well, there goes my subscription I guess. This situation is one of the biggest clusterfudges in CCP history and the community team is cracking jokes about it instead of finding answers or doing damage control. Great work guys.
Really. It's optional content. Prices might change. They might not. But either way, I don't much care.
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knobber Jobbler
Holding Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:39:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
You have to be an A grade numpty to even consider those prices. Congrats on putting in a further reason for people to bot and rmt.
And to think ccp could have spent the time making interne spaceships better. Instead we get walking in closets and charged 60$ for half a days artist time.
Did you not read about the horse armour fiasco and the developers own feedback on how they admit they got it wrong?
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keval4
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:40:00 -
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so now you have convert all your game time to plex to buy monocle, put shades over to cover this FAIL and never log in to EVE SIMS online again.
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VaKuR vAkR
Broski Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:41:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Well, it's not my company you are running into the ****ing ground by upsetting its memberbase. I can care less.
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Ludacrys
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:41:00 -
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1 billion isk for the eye patch?
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
good one ccp, really you had me worried you were serious about microtransactions, but clearly you missed the micro part there, do you even realize a full "FUN" game is around 60 dollars?
Look i dont want to be an ******* but if your plan is to support DUST with 60 dollar eyepatches you better goddamn go back to the planning table, like right now, GO!
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Rek Seven
Gallente Zandathorn Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:43:00 -
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Originally by: knobber Jobbler
Did you not read about the horse armour fiasco and the developers own feedback on how they admit they got it wrong?
The sad thing is that DLC made bethesda a profit...
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Loraine Gess
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:43:00 -
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Originally by: Amaia Sirin
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Well, there goes my subscription I guess. This situation is one of the biggest clusterfudges in CCP history and the community team is cracking jokes about it instead of finding answers or doing damage control. Great work guys.
Bye, see you never, won't miss you, etc.
Please contract all items to "Loraine Gess". ------------------------------- When I mitigate risks in business, they call me financially sound. When I mitigate risk in PVP, they call me a coward.
I'm still rich, and they're still dead. |

Solvia
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:44:00 -
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I wounder if the time then they realise their virtual shirt is more expencive then a real-life counterpart will come any time soon?
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Holy One
Quiet.Storm Frater Adhuc Excessum
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:46:00 -
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Originally by: Solvia
I wounder if the time then they realise their virtual shirt is more expencive then a real-life counterpart will come any time soon?
Isn't beer $15 a pint in Iceland? Shudder to imagine how much a pair of shoes costs.
BBQ makes me hungry for more... |

Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:46:00 -
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These should be high-value items. Making them accessible to all just devalues them. If the spotty teenager working at McDonalds has a monocle, why would anyone else want one?
Given the amount of ISK in the game these days, 1 billion ISK makes sense, frankly.
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Thinly Veiled
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:48:00 -
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No wonder they didnt want to call them Microtransactions in the tournament panel xD
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Holy One
Quiet.Storm Frater Adhuc Excessum
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:48:00 -
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Originally by: Gypsio III These should be high-value items. Making them accessible to all just devalues them. If the spotty teenager working at McDonalds has a monocle, why would anyone else want one?
You just described the eve typical eve customer ..
Since he's going to be physically repugnant and consequently celibate he can probably afford to buy pretend clothes for his physically perfect virtual alter ego. And consider it good value! 
BBQ makes me hungry for more... |

Hyperforce99
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:49:00 -
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Edited by: Hyperforce99 on 22/06/2011 10:49:48
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Perhaps you have missed the significance of this the OPs post.
Micro transactions imply small amounts of money. Most games that use micro-transactions won't ask more than 5$ at most for things like these. And that's already cutting it close to being unacceptable. Valves MANN-CO is only as successful as it is because its based around TEAM FORTRESS 2 in which the main reason to look different is because you interact with other people that look exactly the same as you. And even there a different hat is no more than 3 $ at most. Pricing shirts, at around 20 dollars a piece is simply idiotic. Everyone that has a monocle right now will be the laughing stock of EVE because they were gullible and idiotic enough to spend 80 dollars to buy a piece of digital eyeware.
I'd rather pay 2 or 3 dollars more for my monthly subscription then having to see CCP act scrooge MC duck or worse... ACTIVISION!  --------------------------------------------- Somewhere beyond happyness and sadness, I need to calculate what creates my own madness o/ |

Pearly Spencer
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:49:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
I think that is the first blue response on the subject and this is what you say??
  
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Bibosikus
Gallente Universal Moose Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:51:00 -
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Maybe the monocle was designed by HR Geiger or something... I'm just gobsmacked 
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Dierdra Vaal
Caldari Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:51:00 -
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Edited by: Dierdra Vaal on 22/06/2011 10:54:13 given how much these items cost in RL money, maybe they're actually intended to be a minor PLEX sink?
People with too much ISK (the kind of people who don't care about a billion more or less) can buy PLEX, convert them to spacegold and buy a monocle/boots/whatever. It seems more likely than someone spending $50 on a virtual space monocle that nobody else can see.
Not that I'm sad about it - the less people actually using the store the better imo. (yes I'm bitter)
Veto #205 * * * Director Emeritus at EVE University * * * CSM1 delegate, CSM3 chairman and CSM5 vice-chairman
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Ludacrys
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:51:00 -
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HOW did you miss the WHOLE POINT of MICROTRANSACTIONS? ITS IN THE BLOODY NAME!
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Orphan World
Kitzless
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:55:00 -
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Originally by: Dierdra Vaal given how much these items cost in RL money, maybe they're actually intended to be a minor PLEX sink?
People with too much ISK (the kind of people who don't care about a billion more or less) can buy PLEX, convert them to spacegold and buy a monocle/boots/whatever. It seems more likely than someone spending $50 on a virtual space monocle that nobody else can see.
If the items had been much cheaper in AUR, a larger percentage of the playerbase would have bought and spent PLEXes. I'm pretty sure that five people cracking open one PLEX each is better for CCP than a single player cracking open four.
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Velani Askiras
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:55:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
I'm a new player and all that, but your response is just wrong, not sure what else to say.
However, my eye tells me that i better not open the AURUM shop again until the prices get reduced to normal microtransaction standards.
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Terianna Eri
Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:57:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
GET OUT ________________
Originally by: CCP Incognito PS the "time to P*nis" is the shortest time recorded in human history. :)
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Mr Kidd
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:01:00 -
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Originally by: James Lyrus
Originally by: Amaia Sirin
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Well, there goes my subscription I guess. This situation is one of the biggest clusterfudges in CCP history and the community team is cracking jokes about it instead of finding answers or doing damage control. Great work guys.
Really. It's optional content. Prices might change. They might not. But either way, I don't much care.
Yesterday I thought the same thing. Then I slept on it and decided that we should care because in its current state MT EXCLUDES a vast majority of players even if they WANTED to do it. What's disturbing is that is where development resources are going instead of fixing problems and creating REAL content. That is why everyone should care about this fiasco. It's CCP giving a big FU to its own playerbase.
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SiIver Twin
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:03:00 -
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Edited by: SiIver Twin on 22/06/2011 11:04:00 So what you're saying is... you can either buy any faction battleship of your choosing or dreadnaught or carrier... or you can have a monocle. That sounds like a sweet deal to me!
Look, Just take the ****ING Aurum label off my wallet, I haven't been giving you money for 7 years so you can **** with my game. Put station spinny back to default with Captains Quarters as an optional extra (as you initially promised it)
To be honest I don't give a **** about the Noble Exchange, or the walking about in stations... All I want is the old functionality of MY game back. If you want to add all this fluff go ahead but make them optional.
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Amaia Sirin
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:06:00 -
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Originally by: James Lyrus
Originally by: Amaia Sirin
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Well, there goes my subscription I guess. This situation is one of the biggest clusterfudges in CCP history and the community team is cracking jokes about it instead of finding answers or doing damage control. Great work guys.
Really. It's optional content. Prices might change. They might not. But either way, I don't much care.
I'm more annoyed with CCP's inability to take their community communication seriously, especially in situations like these when a vast portion of their customers are voicing legitimate concerns.
However much the NeX situation has my skin crawling, Guard's reply is an order of magnitude worse.
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Merasa Tro
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:07:00 -
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I'm not bothered either way about vanity stuff. Its vanity, you want it, pay for it, enjoy it. You dont want it, dont pay for it. Simples.
HOWEVER... What does concern me is that this will have impact on PLEX pricing. Its a market, supply demand.
If (as I expect) it drives plex pricing up (convert plex into Aurum means fewer plex, more demand, higher prices).
Higher plex prices mean people without real world cash/ability to pay for the game have to pay more isk for plex, eventually it becomes impossible for them to play enough to pay to play. So they just cant afford to play.
Which means my mates in corp/alliance even the enemy stop playing.
I hope it works out, but choosing plex to do this was a bad idea IMHO.
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Lucilla Giulia
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:07:00 -
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[ 2011.06.22 00:00:44 ] CCP Zinfandel > The Looking Glass Ocular Implant (right/gold) is fairly expensive. It's also a machine being installed into your eye and one would not want to buy a cheap version of something to go in your face.
you guys have it all wrong, is not about MT is about roleplay  besides, if i get podded i loose my implants, y whouldn't i loose my clothes and/or eyepatches?i mean always considering it form a roleplay pov...
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:08:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Kidd
Originally by: James Lyrus
Originally by: Amaia Sirin
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Well, there goes my subscription I guess. This situation is one of the biggest clusterfudges in CCP history and the community team is cracking jokes about it instead of finding answers or doing damage control. Great work guys.
Really. It's optional content. Prices might change. They might not. But either way, I don't much care.
Yesterday I thought the same thing. Then I slept on it and decided that we should care because in its current state MT EXCLUDES a vast majority of players even if they WANTED to do it. What's disturbing is that is where development resources are going instead of fixing problems and creating REAL content. That is why everyone should care about this fiasco. It's CCP giving a big FU to its own playerbase.
Nah, it doesn't. Making a billion isk, then buying your aurum isn't particularly difficult. It's just not 'ickle newbie' territory.
But surely, part of the point of vanity items is exclusivity? To show that you're so much of a badass, that not only do you pimp your ship, but you pimp your wardrobe too.
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Ludacrys
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:09:00 -
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Maybe its all a trick, OUTRAGEOUS prices now then they lower them to plain RIPOFF levels because of "community demand" Is ccp haggling with us?
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ed jeni
SKULLDOGS RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:09:00 -
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TBH this is typical of how CCP now see EVE as a way and means of now milking the playerbase while they sit in their ivory tower looking down on the space game the created while they stroke white fluffy cats. its fairly obvious that the majority of devs have been told to focus on projects that will generate new sign ups, that vid of hillmar whooping as the sign up figure rises make perfect sense now.
the game i loved to play since day 1 has slowly changed its focus away from providing a fun challenge and worthwhile time sink to the goose that lays golden eggs for its investors and i cant help but feel we are getting the finger from ccp devs who plan future updates and wave the nerfbat, obviously they are now too busy attending confrences and doing important corperate meetings to even play the game they created the fun beership flying ccp staff have now been locked in a box in the basement less they say anything to upset the investors.
but no i will keep my stuffs and continue to play until a viable alternative comes to market, then i will emo quit post and you can ask for my assets.
regarding the MT store, its a joke of pythonesque proportions and atypical of how things are going, but remember its only a store and there is no need to spend your plex's on $60 eyewear, and if you do then your the kind of saps that ccp want in there spaceship game, until the $100 beanie hat that gives you a 10% bonus to tracking appears then i will avoid the MT store and its obvious bullcrap items.
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Ciar Meara
Amarr Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:10:00 -
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Originally by: Amaia Sirin However much the NeX situation has my skin crawling, Guard's reply is an order of magnitude worse.
He's just being a ****, it seems to be a prerequisite for CCP hires these days
Probably linked to recruiting from inside the old fanbase (inbreeding)
Anyways, Sad. ------------------------------------------------- A friend of death, a brother of luck and a son of a *****
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green martian
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:10:00 -
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They arent going to be able to lower the prices now - what would they tell the idiots who already bought their pointless eye piece which no 1 else can see. 'Oh yeah sorry about that but thanks for all the $$$$ anyway'
What a load of crap
on a side note - everybody i know in game has turned off CQ already with the exeption of 1 guy who sits in jita all day. Juat wait for the forum war when they take out the option to ignore this crappy patch, then CCP will realise they should have listened to players who have loyaly supported them for so long and shouldnt have pandered to WOW players who wont stay playing eve anyway as its too hard and cutthroat for them. well done CCP you dun flucked up this time duhh
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:11:00 -
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Originally by: Merasa Tro I'm not bothered either way about vanity stuff. Its vanity, you want it, pay for it, enjoy it. You dont want it, dont pay for it. Simples.
HOWEVER... What does concern me is that this will have impact on PLEX pricing. Its a market, supply demand.
If (as I expect) it drives plex pricing up (convert plex into Aurum means fewer plex, more demand, higher prices).
Higher plex prices mean people without real world cash/ability to pay for the game have to pay more isk for plex, eventually it becomes impossible for them to play enough to pay to play. So they just cant afford to play.
Which means my mates in corp/alliance even the enemy stop playing.
I hope it works out, but choosing plex to do this was a bad idea IMHO.
No, not really. Because there's people who'd also choose to fire plex into the system, to capitalize on the higher price, where it's not usually 'worth it'.
And frankly, if you're too short of cash to pay your sub, perhaps you might want to consider your life priorities - playing games really _should_ be taking a lower priority than earning a living.
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Aquana Abyss
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:11:00 -
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You're all fools for wanting to convert game time (useful) to vanity items (useless) in the first place whatever the price.
CCP are doing us a favour by pricing them that high - only complete idiots will waste game time now, and if CCP want to exploit those rare idiots - fine by me.
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:12:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Kidd
Then I slept on it and decided that we should care because in its current state MT EXCLUDES a vast majority of players even if they WANTED to do it.
These items are status symbols. A status symbol that is accessible to all is an oxymoron. By definition, they must not be available to the vast majority of players.
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COMEATMEBRO IMHERE
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:12:00 -
[58]
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
they see me trollin they hatin
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Zoroa Aulx-Gao
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:13:00 -
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It's the NOBLE exchange you pennyless serfs, those with out the billions of ISK required to look swagged out may only bask in the royalty of others monocles.
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Kez Aumer
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:14:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Gypsio III
Originally by: Mr Kidd A status symbol that is accessible to all is an oxymoron.
Kinda like a status symbol noone else will see, right?
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SiIver Twin
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:15:00 -
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I just hope straining my eyes at the looking at the pixelated image as I stutter about frame by frame inside my roach motel doesn't actually cause me to need glasses... cos for **** sake if that's the price of a monocle they better open up a branch of specsavers in jita quick!
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Serpents smile
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
And you think it's strange with these kind of comments that some of your paying customers go on a personal tour? 
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Akemi Mai Yamada
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:16:00 -
[63]
Edited by: Akemi Mai Yamada on 22/06/2011 11:27:39 Well, in my opinion eve is such a great game and with the PLEX-System players can play for free. If that helps that they get more money out of eve online im happy. Like i said its such a great game and it deserves money to improve it :D Yeah, im a bit disappointed that the cloths are so overpriced but if it generates more money than cheap ones, why not?
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illirdor
Gallente Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:20:00 -
[64]
LoL its a pair of glasses why would you even consider buying them ?? 
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xwolfi
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:20:00 -
[65]
Why not ? Because it's not even generating the money it could. I may have bought a PLEX if one allowed me to afford a hundred pieces of clothing, but here I'm just blocked: I have to buy several ones to get the things I may be interested in. It doesn't generate money, and it shows us how poor we are IRL and ingame :D
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Rhaegor Stormborn
BURN EDEN Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:21:00 -
[66]
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Your days are numbered. Mark my words.
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SiIver Twin
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:22:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Akemi Mai Yamada Well, in my opinion eve is such a great game and with the PLEX-System players can play for free. If that helps that they get more money out of eve online im glad. Like i said its such a great game and it deserves money to improve it :D Yeah, im a bit disappointed that the cloths are so overpriced but if it generates more money, why not?
They still get the same amount of money from PLEX if you pay for it with isk. It's just someone else fronting up the RL cash.
The only way a PLEX can be seeded onto the market is when someone buys a 60 Game time code from CCP or one of their licensed partners for real money and then splits it up into 2 x 30 day PLEX. So if they have 500,000 accounts it doesn't matter if half of them are paying with plex, because the other half are buying the PLEX with real money and selling it in game... so the same number of accounts are being paid for at full price.
This Aurum is a way for them to remove plex from the game one at a time. as you dissolve your PLEX into vanity items they get more money. because a Monocle is worth a quarter of a whole year in game.
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Terianna Eri
Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:23:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Gypsio III
Originally by: Mr Kidd
Then I slept on it and decided that we should care because in its current state MT EXCLUDES a vast majority of players even if they WANTED to do it.
These items are status symbols. A status symbol that is accessible to all is an oxymoron. By definition, they must not be available to the vast majority of players.
These items are only status symbols because they cost so fcking much, duh
cool circular logic bro - they are status symbols because they are so expensive, and they are so expensive because they are status symbols  ________________
Originally by: CCP Incognito PS the "time to P*nis" is the shortest time recorded in human history. :)
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Kez Aumer
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:23:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Your days are numbered. Mark my words.
You forgot to add 'ingame'
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Jeneral Jane
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:25:00 -
[70]
Edited by: Jeneral Jane on 22/06/2011 11:24:53 If CCP Guard would reply further, I am sure all he would say is..
"HTFU!"
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SiIver Twin
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:26:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Terianna Eri
Originally by: Gypsio III
Originally by: Mr Kidd
Then I slept on it and decided that we should care because in its current state MT EXCLUDES a vast majority of players even if they WANTED to do it.
These items are status symbols. A status symbol that is accessible to all is an oxymoron. By definition, they must not be available to the vast majority of players.
These items are only status symbols because they cost so fcking much, duh
cool circular logic bro - they are status symbols because they are so expensive, and they are so expensive because they are status symbols 
I can afford one... I'd just rather be able to afford my Bhaalgorn if it blows up
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DjLowballer
Amarr Firebird Squadron
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:26:00 -
[72]
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
I mean is trolling a bunch of your ****ed off customers a good idea? I don't really care since I am never in stations but between this and the other bizdev talking about how we should pay a lot because a monocle "is going in your head" it seems like you guys have dropped a level professionally.
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Ciar Meara
Amarr Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:27:00 -
[73]
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Originally by: CCP Guard Seriously guys, lay off the personal attacks and make do with constructive criticism of policy and mechanics. We'll listen to that. Not to this.
What's constructive about your earlier post then Guard? I'd call it inciting at least. ------------------------------------------------- A friend of death, a brother of luck and a son of a *****
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Headerman
Minmatar Quovis Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:27:00 -
[74]
Guys guys guys
I just heard this is a fault.
Pricing for eyewear will be fixed in the next PATCH.
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COMEATMEBRO IMHERE
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:29:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Your days are numbered. Mark my words.
LOOK AN INTERNET TOUGH GUY BAHAHAHA
oh god CCP are like the best trolls ever, just look at all those kids getting upset cause they can't buy themself a viritual eyepatch.
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Kazundo Gouda
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:31:00 -
[76]
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Its all plucked out of the brown eye of the seller
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Kara Kugisa
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:31:00 -
[77]
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
I have to say Im flabbergasted at the cost.
How a cosmetic add on can cost more than a spaceship you have to admit is a massive error on CCP's part.
If you are going to have things like this in game at least make them priced realistically.
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Ruze Ahkor'Murkon
Amarr No Applicable Corporation
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:32:00 -
[78]
Isn't it more fair to say that the high price discourages RMT, since anyone foolish enough to spend real money on these items is their own tool?
Seems to me that these are for the in-game wealthy, as a bit of a trophy for how much isk they have. Stops the regular joe from wasting his RL paycheck, unless he's just a tard.
1.3bil for a completely indestructable, USELESS vanity item? Yeah, where's the harm in that?
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Slatiska Wolfovna
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:32:00 -
[79]
Originally by: COMEATMEBRO IMHERE
Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Your days are numbered. Mark my words.
LOOK AN INTERNET TOUGH GUY BAHAHAHA
oh god CCP are like the best trolls ever, just look at all those kids getting upset cause they can't buy themself a viritual eyepatch.
Well we all helped them develop this by paying our subscription (or buying a plex whatever) and now they tell us we should not benefit from the new changes unless we pay more. If the prices had been declared BEFORE the patch, maybe it would have been accepted, but I feel a bit cheated. It won't prevent me to play, but it's still a bit strange to see how our money is spent :D
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Akemi Mai Yamada
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:33:00 -
[80]
Originally by: SiIver Twin
Originally by: Akemi Mai Yamada Well, in my opinion eve is such a great game and with the PLEX-System players can play for free. If that helps that they get more money out of eve online im glad. Like i said its such a great game and it deserves money to improve it :D Yeah, im a bit disappointed that the cloths are so overpriced but if it generates more money, why not?
They still get the same amount of money from PLEX if you pay for it with isk. It's just someone else fronting up the RL cash.
The only way a PLEX can be seeded onto the market is when someone buys a 60 Game time code from CCP or one of their licensed partners for real money and then splits it up into 2 x 30 day PLEX. So if they have 500,000 accounts it doesn't matter if half of them are paying with plex, because the other half are buying the PLEX with real money and selling it in game... so the same number of accounts are being paid for at full price.
This Aurum is a way for them to remove plex from the game one at a time. as you dissolve your PLEX into vanity items they get more money. because a Monocle is worth a quarter of a whole year in game.
Yea, maybe. Id like to see some numbers on that! But still, eve deserves a lot of money! Im really exited about the future and money improves it :D
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:33:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Terianna Eri
Originally by: Gypsio III
Originally by: Mr Kidd
Then I slept on it and decided that we should care because in its current state MT EXCLUDES a vast majority of players even if they WANTED to do it.
These items are status symbols. A status symbol that is accessible to all is an oxymoron. By definition, they must not be available to the vast majority of players.
These items are only status symbols because they cost so fcking much, duh
cool circular logic bro - they are status symbols because they are so expensive, and they are so expensive because they are status symbols 
If they're not status symbols, then they're pointless fluff.
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My Postman
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:35:00 -
[82]
Lol at prices of vanity items. When they come up to sell a concord-god-mode frigate, you will have to sell your car (and not an old one) and maybe your house for.
That is the right way to introduce MICROtransactions.
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Ciar Meara
Amarr Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:36:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Gypsio III If they're not status symbols, then they're pointless fluff.
Look up "vanity items" and "pointless" in a book somewhere, compare. ------------------------------------------------- A friend of death, a brother of luck and a son of a *****
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voodoo
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:36:00 -
[84]
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
I got your beholder right here pal. .
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Rob Crowley
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:36:00 -
[85]
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
<3 Guard
Also plebs who can't cough up a bil shouldn't even be allowed to post on the forums. Your poverty sickens me.
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Kez Aumer
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:36:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Terianna Eri cool circular logic bro - they are status symbols because they are so expensive, and they are so expensive because they are status symbols 
In his defense though, that's pretty much how real life fashion works.
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Louis deGuerre
Gallente Malevolence. Imperial 0rder
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:39:00 -
[87]
Chill out people, no one is forcing you to buy them.
Just give it a few months and they will cost $0.60 and then you can buy them.
I'm more concerned with my graphic card overheating from running CQ than a few hilariously-overpriced pixels. ----- Malevolence. is recruiting. Dive into the world of 0.0 !
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Adrie Atticus
Tactical Vendor of Services and Goods Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:40:00 -
[88]
We need detailed killmails for pods, I'd rather see that I killed someone with 2 billion worth of cosmetic gear than someone with a full HG crystal set.
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Jason1138
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:41:00 -
[89]
"It's all in the eye of the beholder."
after seeing this attitude time and time again i cancelled both my accounts and have been running them on the isk i had in my wallet at the time of cancellation. when that runs out i'm gone
and after logging in finally yesterday and seeing the crap fest that is this expansion, i've never been happier with that decision.
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CCP Guard

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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:44:00 -
[90]
Guys, I didn't mean to offend with my little wordplay there. Sorry if I did. A more serious reply to your concerns and questions regarding pricing of virtual goods is coming. The workday started not long ago over here and most of us were up late monitoring initial reactions and spinning our dudes in CQ. We are piecing together the different opinions and we'll do our best to address all of them.
Thank you all for your patience.
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Niccolado Starwalker
Gallente Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:45:00 -
[91]
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
ROFL. Yup yup, certainly is! 
Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:45:00 -
[92]
TBH, I'm against microtransactions whether a monocle costs 60 cents or 600 dollars.
It's not the price that matters, it's the principle.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Flak Ygdral
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:46:00 -
[93]
How much!!!?
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flapie 2
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:48:00 -
[94]
Originally by: CCP Guard Guys, I didn't mean to offend with my little wordplay there. Sorry if I did. A more serious reply to your concerns and questions regarding pricing of virtual goods is coming. The workday started not long ago over here and most of us were up late monitoring initial reactions and spinning our dudes in CQ. We are piecing together the different opinions and we'll do our best to address all of them.
Thank you all for your patience.
Dont worrie dude, there just to buthurt atm to be open for anny logical reasoning ^^ This will settle down slowly, just let it ride, that remark was epic i loled for sure ><
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Jezmund Bezerker
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:48:00 -
[95]
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Wow, that's astute, because this beholder sees CCP being rather tone deaf about this whole thing... now clear that they'll do anything for a buck. Just wait folks... Dust will be even better!!!
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John Zenrael
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:49:00 -
[96]
Can these monocles be fired out of the sexy, new turrets?
I imagine they could do a lot of damage... take someones eye out, etc.
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Reloadin
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:49:00 -
[97]
How dare CCP not try and make a quick buck out of us all. Haven't you been reading the forums lately? We all love microtransactions and can't wait to buy as many things as possible.
How dare you try and give vanity items some exclusiveness and limit the amount of profit you'll make from MT in the process.
Every single character in game must be able to afford a monocle right now!
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:49:00 -
[98]
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
I'm honestly not too sure what CCP is trying to achieve with these prices. At first I thought it was a glitch, but your comment makes it obvious that it isn't. CCP seems to have forgotten the lessons learnt from last summer's :18months: ragefest, because the bad PR is already there, along with a few threadnoughts and plenty of players unsubscribing.
I hope CCP make sure that the expansion of CQ to WiS comes quickly, but whatever the case, we'll see by the end of the year if this is CCP's NGE moment, given that the reception of Dust on non-Sony/CCP moderated sites has been lukewarm at best.
I'll leave you this possibly telling quote from the article on the NGE fiasco:
Quote: At some point someone - your producer, probably, that being his job and all - should have sat everyone down and said "you. can't. do. that." Those 200,000 customers - customers - you blithely dismiss as "dregs" and "weirdos" - are paying your salary. You can't just blow them off for the mythical millions of people looking for a better game.
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Systech
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:51:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Amaia Sirin
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Well, there goes my subscription I guess. This situation is one of the biggest clusterfudges in CCP history and the community team is cracking jokes about it instead of finding answers or doing damage control. Great work guys.
Well Amaia has a point, this is just the beginning. Eve is turning into a f2p mmorpg with a p2p price tag. Once they start added ships,weapons and even ammo that can not be bought in less you shovel out billions or by buying plexes, you all will begin to wake up.
This is Bullsh!t in my book, you can not expect people to pay twice or even three times when we are already paying for a month sub. Yeah, Eve is one of the best space games running, but they are sinking fast. They need to figure out some way to make up the extra revenue for the decreasing player base.
Eve has around 500 million subscribers and on a good day you are lucky to see 43k online, most of the time Eve doesn't even break 30k. So the only way to make more more money is to pork the players that are left. This is a good way to finish off the 30k that do play regularly. I don't see Eve staying a flow for much longer, I would say Eve won't last till next year. This is a last attempt chance to stay above water and I don't see this working.
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Adrian Idaho
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:54:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Your days are numbered. Mark my words.
Was that a personal death threat?
Look at him, trying to look tough on teh interwebz!
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leth ghost
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:55:00 -
[101]
Its a slippery slope from "pay to play" to "pay to win" when all this microtransaction is introduced
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Tribunia
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:56:00 -
[102]
Originally by: HeIIfire11 They had to have known that we would tell them to go **** themselves. That they even try us like that....amazing.
It s the bitter after taste from getting paid for sex.
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The Hardman
Amarr Uncle Fester's Olde Tyme Barbershoppe
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:56:00 -
[103]
You can't lock ships with out the monocle equipped.
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Kez Aumer
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:59:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Tribunia It s the bitter after taste from getting paid for sex.
Listerine, man. Learn to love it.
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Shardivh
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Posted - 2011.06.22 12:01:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Flak Ygdral How much!!!?
Thats practically a new ship!
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Ten Bulls
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.22 12:08:00 -
[106]
Originally by: CCP Guard <blah blah snip> Thank you all for your patience.
What patience, where ???
How about thanking us for our knee-jerk reactions, thats where all the cred is !
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Nina Dakatt
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Posted - 2011.06.22 12:09:00 -
[107]
Try thinking out of the box, take a look at RL and accept that there are 2 types of EvE (or any game for that matter) player.
1) The younger gamer, student maybe ot between jobs that has lots of time on thier hands, Cash is in short supply do they feed their gaming by playing lots, grinding isk and buying plexes.
Those plexes do not appear out of thin air, they are created by :
2) Older gamer, has a good job that pays good cash. They have cash to spare and already have everything they need in RL. To have this level of comfort requires either a lottery win or work many hours.
I am Gamer 2. I think nothing of buying 12 plexes and selling them to pay for my PvP habit. I dont have the time to grind ISK, i get home from work often late, and just want to log on and blow up some internet spacehips in my very limited available time.
This enables me to play EvE, Play another FotM game/MMO, keep the Mrs happy, spend time with the kids, go out and eat steak every night if i choose and run a mercedes.
I do this because i work hard and deserve to have an easy grind free fun playtime.
I am Damned if some unemployed peasant dictates to me how my gametime is played. When station walking comes into play then so will EvE politics, Alliance discussion will be conducted around a table not IRC, As in RL image will be everything, In RL i wear designer suits to make the right impact, they more than pay for themselves thanks.
EvE will be the same, the more high value wealth you display the more credibility you will have when conducting business or declaring war/peace in the stations.
I think its clear where this game is going, and one other thing, there are not many premium MMO's out there that give you a chance to play without subscription.
I would think about that if i were you before they do decide to go deeply down the F2P route. If they do i dont care how many officer mods give you godmode in PvP, i will be able to afford to buy better.
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Ciar Meara
Amarr Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.06.22 12:12:00 -
[108]
Edited by: Ciar Meara on 22/06/2011 12:14:32
Originally by: Flak Ygdral How much!!!?
I see what you did there, quite good!
+5 internet
Oh and to GM GUARD who seems to be a bit 'tired', bad excuse for being spouting nonsense and then complaining about our reaction to his early morning drivel.
We where all up early in the morning, working. ------------------------------------------------- A friend of death, a brother of luck and a son of a *****
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Fukov Andie
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Posted - 2011.06.22 12:15:00 -
[109]
I get an idea what went wrong with the icelandic economy. 
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Hyperforce99
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2011.06.22 12:15:00 -
[110]
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Perhaps you have missed the significance of this the OPs post.
Micro transactions imply small amounts of money. Most games that use micro-transactions won't ask more than 5$ at most for things like these. And thats cutting it close. Valves MANN-CO is only as successful as it is because its based around TEAM FORTRESS 2 in which the main reason to look different is because you interact with other people that look exactly the same as you. And even there a different hat is no more than 3 $ at most. Pricing shirts, at around 20 dollars a piece is simply idiotic. Everyone that has a monocle right now will be the laughing stock of EVE because they were gullible and idiotic enough to spend 80 dollars to buy a piece of digital eyeware.
I'd rather pay 2 or 3 dollars more for my monthly subscription then having to see CCP act scrooge MC duck or worse... ACTIVISION!  --------------------------------------------- Somewhere beyond happyness and sadness, I need to calculate what creates my own madness o/ |

Captain Futur3
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Posted - 2011.06.22 12:17:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Fukov Andie I get an idea what went wrong with the icelandic economy. 
true.
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Valeroth Kyarmentari
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Posted - 2011.06.22 12:19:00 -
[112]
Well this is a bit silly. After sort of just defending the whole Aurum concept in another thread (the one about CEO's banning people who buy stuff). I find myself here. 1 Billion ISK for a piece of eyeware?
Well this is pretty silly. While I'm fine with anyone who wants to spend that kind money on a vanity item.
Rifters go for about 280,000 right? I certainly not going to pay more than that for anything I can't fly. I figured maybe I'd spend 10,000-20,000 ISK on something if it really caught my fancy.
1 Million for a Monocle?
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Aineko Macx
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Posted - 2011.06.22 12:20:00 -
[113]
MT = Macro Transaction, didn't you know? ________________________ CCP: Where fixing bugs is a luxury, not an obligation. |

Probably Alt
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Posted - 2011.06.22 12:21:00 -
[114]
The price of these items sorta makes sense. Sure it isn't for everyone and cost a $hit load in isk. However, CCP has stated for a while they wanted to reign in some of the isk accumulation that occurs. Giving vanity items to the vain accomplishes this. Lets face it, those who play so much and accumulate trillions in isk will spend isk on this to pimp out their avatars thus accomplishing a small part of their goal.
I can see an entire alliance elite and leaders demanding their eye patches from their corps. The narcissistic leaders will raise corp taxes because they need to prove to other alliances they have the isk to just throw away on pointless novelties.
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Iggy Stooge
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Posted - 2011.06.22 12:25:00 -
[115]
Don't worry, I have a Monocle BPO.
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2011.06.22 12:27:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Fukov Andie I get an idea what went wrong with the icelandic economy. 
Yes, the similarities are most definitely there.
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jk scowling
Sane Industries Inc. Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2011.06.22 12:28:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Probably Alt The price of these items sorta makes sense. Sure it isn't for everyone and cost a $hit load in isk. However, CCP has stated for a while they wanted to reign in some of the isk accumulation that occurs. Giving vanity items to the vain accomplishes this. Lets face it, those who play so much and accumulate trillions in isk will spend isk on this to pimp out their avatars thus accomplishing a small part of their goal.
I can see an entire alliance elite and leaders demanding their eye patches from their corps. The narcissistic leaders will raise corp taxes because they need to prove to other alliances they have the isk to just throw away on pointless novelties.
The isk is still in the system though, it's a plex sink not an isk sink.
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.22 12:35:00 -
[118]
Originally by: CCP Guard Guys, I didn't mean to offend with my little wordplay there. Sorry if I did. A more serious reply to your concerns and questions regarding pricing of virtual goods is coming. The workday started not long ago over here and most of us were up late monitoring initial reactions and spinning our dudes in CQ. We are piecing together the different opinions and we'll do our best to address all of them.
Thank you all for your patience.
In the eye of this beholder, a skirt is NOT worth 3 months of gameplay. God protect us when Cash Cows Paradise eventually gets to sell ship paintjobs... 
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2011.06.22 12:43:00 -
[119]
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Ill fix that for you.
Originally by: CCP Guard Youre dumb we know youll pay what ever we ask.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Maeve Kelly
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Posted - 2011.06.22 12:43:00 -
[120]
Crosspost from a similar thread....
Originally by: Maeve Kelly OMG...I just saw a picture of this thing. Why would anyone want the monocle in the first place? It is FUGLY! Give me some awesome looking steam punk goggles, then we can talk.
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Taedrin
Gallente Zero Percent Tax Haven
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Posted - 2011.06.22 12:44:00 -
[121]
CCP, I have almost always been a fanboy, always presuming the best of intentions out of you. Rarely have I said anything negative about you and always believed that any mistakes you made would eventually be corrected without needing your players to tell you anything.
But what in the world are you thinking!?!? Sure, I can understand the monocle if you want to make it an exclusive item, owned only be the richest players in EVE. But everything else? Each item costs at least half of a PLEX! A shirt in the noble exchange costs as much as a shirt in real life - except in real life the shirt has an actual tradeable value, whereas in EVE CCP claims all virtual property for themselves. This *MIGHT* be acceptable if once you purchased an item, it was purchased forever. But this is not the case - you lose the shirt you bought if you get podded.
Here are your choices, CCP: 1) Cut prices by an order of magnitude AT LEAST. That means divide it all by 10. This way players won't mind losing the shirt off their back when they get podded and would be willing to buy again. 2) Clothing purchased is permanently available for character recustimization. 3) Change the noble exchange from buying clothing, to buying BPOs for said clothing.
^ Pick one of those options, CCP. I myself would prefer it if you picked #1. ----------
Originally by: Dr Fighter "how do you know when youve had a repro accident"
Theres modules missing and morphite in your mineral pile.
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Anderson Tane
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Posted - 2011.06.22 12:45:00 -
[122]
Originally by: CCP Guard Guys, I didn't mean to offend with my little wordplay there. Sorry if I did. A more serious reply to your concerns and questions regarding pricing of virtual goods is coming. The workday started not long ago over here and most of us were up late monitoring initial reactions and spinning our dudes in CQ. We are piecing together the different opinions and we'll do our best to address all of them.
Thank you all for your patience.
Well I was not offended :) There are problems but I'm sure things will get sorted out at some point.
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Xia Long
Two Brothers Mining Corp. R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2011.06.22 12:46:00 -
[123]
Originally by: Nina Dakatt stuff
no u don't deserve anything more than anyone else, not in a game Don't care if u'r some rich's son , or someone who broke his back to get a good position or again someone who might have lost his job, this is a game , this is NOT the reality, if you want do rightfully showoff your money, u'r free to do it in RL, point.
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Shintai
Gallente Arx Io Orbital Factories Arx Io
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Posted - 2011.06.22 12:46:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Fukov Andie I get an idea what went wrong with the icelandic economy. 
LOL! A new bobble! --------------------------------------
Abstraction and Transcendence: Nature, Shintai, and Geometry |

Eclorc
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Posted - 2011.06.22 12:46:00 -
[125]
Something I think CCP should look again at, is the prices in ISK they are hoping to use for Dust stuff, in comparison to PLEX prices and then versus the number of AURum value per plex. It doesn't take an economist with a degree to see a fewkin big imbalance between things.
Now, I do realise the numbers in that video were just plucked out of thin air, but they did seem to make a kind of sense. With the current conversion rate between AUR and PLEX, tho, I dont think many folks will want to shell out for the CESTUS command ship, given the dusties will likely lose 1 per battle if on the losing team.
I think out of all the figures, the exchange rate between PLEX and AURum will need to be looked at again.
ISK prices for DUST vehicles and equipment that we know about so far, which did made some kind of sense - source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxLJ20oYZGM
Infantry Assault Armor 'AEGIS' = 375,000 ISK
RDV Drone 'Bolas' (Dropship) = 4,400,000 ISK
Heavy Attack Vehicle 'GUNNLOGI' (Tank) = 1,400,000 ISK
Installation Component 'Phase-Synched Railgun' = 1,000,000 ISK
Mobile Command Centre 'CESTUS' (Battlefield Command Ship) = 120,000,000 ISK
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Jupix
Minmatar MuroBBS United
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Posted - 2011.06.22 12:47:00 -
[126]
Originally by: CCP Guard We are piecing together the different opinions and we'll do our best to address all of them.
What different opinions? Literally everyone is saying the noble prices are crazy high 
Unless they are lowered by at least an order of magnitude, I'm gonna assume CCP wants that business model to fail...
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Syphon Lodian
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.22 12:48:00 -
[127]
Originally by: CCP Guard Guys, I didn't mean to offend with my little wordplay there. Sorry if I did. A more serious reply to your concerns and questions regarding pricing of virtual goods is coming. The workday started not long ago over here and most of us were up late monitoring initial reactions and spinning our dudes in CQ. We are piecing together the different opinions and we'll do our best to address all of them.
Thank you all for your patience.
Appreciate the legitimate response, and we're all looking forward to further details regarding the Noble Exchange.
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Kez Aumer
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Posted - 2011.06.22 12:49:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Taedrin But this is not the case - you lose the shirt you bought if you get podded.
You do not.
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Jose Black
Amarr Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2011.06.22 12:55:00 -
[129]
Edited by: Jose Black on 22/06/2011 12:55:34
Originally by: Systech Eve has around 500 million subscribers and on a good day you are lucky to see 43k online, most of the time Eve doesn't even break 30k. So the only way to make more more money is to pork the players that are left. This is a good way to finish off the 30k that do play regularly. I don't see Eve staying a flow for much longer, I would say Eve won't last till next year. This is a last attempt chance to stay above water and I don't see this working.
It is 500 thousand, not million. The term subscribers means active (paying) subscriptions, not registered accounts or something. That makes your whole argument pointless.
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FatRaps
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Posted - 2011.06.22 12:57:00 -
[130]
Edited by: FatRaps on 22/06/2011 12:58:25 At least you know anyone with one of these is a good scam target and not very bright.
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Eu Daimon
Gallente Merchants of the Golden Goose
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Posted - 2011.06.22 13:02:00 -
[131]
Had the discussion with a friend.
Basicly you have a very small group of players a max 100 that make 1 bil a day. They could easily buy these luxury items.
So if the goal is to make endgame items I believe this has been achieved with a bil. isk clothing.
However as an overall business model I don't believe in it. There are far to few customers with this pricing that would participate.
Only time will tell however.
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Zleon Leigh
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Posted - 2011.06.22 13:02:00 -
[132]
Edited by: Zleon Leigh on 22/06/2011 13:02:48
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Just love it. Want one so much that when I fleet in MTgeddon I hope one drops. Then I'm going to stomp it. That much ugly shouldn't exist.
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Rrama Ratamnim
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Posted - 2011.06.22 13:03:00 -
[133]
its not just the prices there are bugs that incarna introduced....
NAMELY DISAPPEARING IMPLANTS
and
DRONES DOING NEXT TO 0 DAMAGE
and
NERF TO SCAN STRENGTH OF PROBES
both reported by numerous people
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Zief
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Posted - 2011.06.22 13:03:00 -
[134]
/me NERDRAGE!!!!!!!
You crammed it down our throats CCP! NO ONE was really excited about it except you! GIVE ME BACK MY SPINNING SHIP!! Take your monocle and go *** CENSORED FOR EXTREME CONTENT***
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Major Galdari
Invicta.
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Posted - 2011.06.22 13:08:00 -
[135]
Nobody's making you buy this stuff. Just ignore it and keep on doing whatever it is you were doing before the expansion
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Sadayiel
Caldari Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.06.22 13:11:00 -
[136]
Originally by: Eu Daimon Had the discussion with a friend.
Basicly you have a very small group of players a max 100 that make 1 bil a day. They could easily buy these luxury items.
So if the goal is to make endgame items I believe this has been achieved with a bil. isk clothing.
However as an overall business model I don't believe in it. There are far to few customers with this pricing that would participate.
Only time will tell however.
Honestly i think that CCP just made it again just trolled all the whiners and complainers and made them even cry harder.
Sooo everyone it's crying because MT it's gonna kill the game , that MT it's an absurd way to make money and CCP only care for money and moar moneyz and that's all.
then CCP listen to them and add a superb MT that no one in their right mind it's gonna use with an absurd price, and all the previous ppl now CRY HARDER because that price it's absurd and they can't afford it.
Brilliant CCP you sir made a Brilliant move /Hat off
P.S: i think CCP screwed the Aur price and just added a 0 to all items
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Peri Simone
Steel Dawn Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.22 13:12:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Nina Dakatt Try thinking out of the box, take a look at RL and accept that there are 2 types of EvE (or any game for that matter) player.
1) The younger gamer, student maybe ot between jobs that has lots of time on thier hands, Cash is in short supply do they feed their gaming by playing lots, grinding isk and buying plexes.
Those plexes do not appear out of thin air, they are created by :
2) Older gamer, has a good job that pays good cash. They have cash to spare and already have everything they need in RL. To have this level of comfort requires either a lottery win or work many hours.
I am Gamer 2. I think nothing of buying 12 plexes and selling them to pay for my PvP habit. I dont have the time to grind ISK, i get home from work often late, and just want to log on and blow up some internet spacehips in my very limited available time.
This enables me to play EvE, Play another FotM game/MMO, keep the Mrs happy, spend time with the kids, go out and eat steak every night if i choose and run a mercedes.
I do this because i work hard and deserve to have an easy grind free fun playtime.
I am Damned if some unemployed peasant dictates to me how my gametime is played. When station walking comes into play then so will EvE politics, Alliance discussion will be conducted around a table not IRC, As in RL image will be everything, In RL i wear designer suits to make the right impact, they more than pay for themselves thanks.
EvE will be the same, the more high value wealth you display the more credibility you will have when conducting business or declaring war/peace in the stations.
I think its clear where this game is going, and one other thing, there are not many premium MMO's out there that give you a chance to play without subscription.
I would think about that if i were you before they do decide to go deeply down the F2P route. If they do i dont care how many officer mods give you godmode in PvP, i will be able to afford to buy better.
3) Older gamer, has a reasonably paid job, doesn't buy plex because he enjoys the challenge of in-game trading and thinks "blowing up internet spaceships" is more fun with an element of risk, never bought a designer suit in his life, thinks you're a bit of a tit.
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Ciar Meara
Amarr Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.06.22 13:19:00 -
[138]
Originally by: Peri Simone 3) Older gamer, has a reasonably paid job, doesn't buy plex because he enjoys the challenge of in-game trading and thinks "blowing up internet spaceships" is more fun with an element of risk, never bought a designer suit in his life, thinks you're a bit of a tit.
Seconded ------------------------------------------------- A friend of death, a brother of luck and a son of a *****
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FatRaps
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Posted - 2011.06.22 13:20:00 -
[139]
PROTIP:
Anyone that says "try thinking out of the box" is a prick and when you read this at the stat of a post, its best to just ignore it and skip to the next.
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Consortium Agent
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Posted - 2011.06.22 13:27:00 -
[140]
Originally by: Zleon Leigh Edited by: Zleon Leigh on 22/06/2011 13:02:48
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Just love it. Want one so much that when I fleet in MTgeddon I hope one drops. Then I'm going to stomp it. That much ugly shouldn't exist.
Lolz. +1 this
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Glyken Touchon
Gallente Independent Alchemists
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Posted - 2011.06.22 13:28:00 -
[141]
Originally by: Shardivh
Originally by: Flak Ygdral How much!!!?
Thats practically a new ship!
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When the forums asked CCP for transparency, we didn't mean the HUD... |

00Dead
Caldari Vanquish Inc
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Posted - 2011.06.22 13:31:00 -
[142]
The direction EvE is taking is one that is undesired by many of the players.
We now have Dev's goading players about the new prices.
What a shame..................
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Zief
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Posted - 2011.06.22 13:34:00 -
[143]
Originally by: Peri Simone
Older gamer, has a reasonably paid job, doesn't buy plex because he enjoys the challenge of in-game trading and thinks "blowing up internet spaceships" is more fun with an element of risk, never bought a designer suit in his life, thinks you're a bit of a tit.
"third'ed"
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I'thari
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.22 13:39:00 -
[144]
Originally by: CCP Guard Guys, I didn't mean to offend with my little wordplay there. Sorry if I did. A more serious reply to your concerns and questions regarding pricing of virtual goods is coming. The workday started not long ago over here and most of us were up late monitoring initial reactions and spinning our dudes in CQ. We are piecing together the different opinions and we'll do our best to address all of them.
Thank you all for your patience.
I really have to point out that you do have a test-server for all your "information gathering" and "bug hunting". |

Malcanis
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.06.22 13:42:00 -
[145]
Originally by: Ruze Ahkor'Murkon Isn't it more fair to say that the high price discourages RMT, since anyone foolish enough to spend real money on these items is their own tool?
Seems to me that these are for the in-game wealthy, as a bit of a trophy for how much isk they have. Stops the regular joe from wasting his RL paycheck, unless he's just a tard.
1.3bil for a completely indestructable, USELESS vanity item? Yeah, where's the harm in that?
Oh there's no real harm in it, but it is hilariously stupid in terms of its stated goals.
I personally dont care if they charge an octillion ISK for an e-sock, because I'm not buying any of it anyway. But it is still amusing to see people yelling I DONT WANT TO BUY ANY MT ITEMS, ALSO THEY ARE TOO EXPENSIVE!!!!
If you're not buying one anyway, why do you care how much they are? I assume everyone that's raging about the price was intending to buy MT items?
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |

Dodgy Past
Amarr Zor Industries Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.06.22 13:45:00 -
[146]
Edited by: Dodgy Past on 22/06/2011 13:46:12
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
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Andrew Riviera
Caldari The First Church of the Azure Carrot
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Posted - 2011.06.22 13:48:00 -
[147]
Someone...make that several someones have missed the idea behind microtransactions. They are supposed to be a pittance, small enough that players can just shrug and buy something 'because why not.' A capital ship is not in that category. Neither is sixty dollars. Sixty dollars is, in fact, enough to buy a completely different, brand new A-list game. A monocle for a single-player captain's quarters experience, or an entire other new-release game. A game that just might have a full range of character customization options without an attempted price gouge. A game made by developers who are slightly less blatant in their attempts to attach a suction pump to their players' wallets.
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Iok Sototh
The Collective B O R G
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Posted - 2011.06.22 13:52:00 -
[148]
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
"It's all in the eye of the beholder, suckers"

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Genghis Kitty
Hello Kitty Online Adventurers
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Posted - 2011.06.22 13:53:00 -
[149]
Isn't this having the desired effect? A monocle is going to be an item only the super rich have. It's not something a normal joe can buy.
Therefore anyone with a monocle (presumably this monacle will show on the forums too?) will be showing off, and some people will fawn and be envious.
Just like IRL with someone having a ú10,000 Rolex watch.
Some will care, most will just say "meh", but life will still go on.
* The greatest trick the devil ever played * * was convincing the world he wasn't a kitten *
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45 Longslide
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Posted - 2011.06.22 14:05:00 -
[150]
Gawd where to start.
First, to Guard and CCP in general, wake up. Being flippant in the face of genuine anger isn't helpful. You might not have wanted to spit in our face but that was the effect. I am of the opinion you're just not getting how PO'ed everyone really is atm on multiple levels.
The thing that bothers me the most is the total lack intelligent thought that seems to have gone into this whole process. Incarna has been Years in the making and to so totally flub it from day one is just inexcusable. It alludes to an institutional wide break down in good judgement and consideration.
Can you genuinely tell me that not one CCP staffer brought up the point that a monocle cost's more than any faction BS, even the pirate one's ? If no one did then we the player base have to genuinely ask, do any of you play the game any more ? If you don't then we need to ask ourselves why we should consume a product that the makers don't use themselves ? If you do play they how can you begin to justify in an intelligent way the exchange rate you set ? This speaks to a total lack of good judgment and planning.
What is the use in expending years of time and resources to roll out a feature that few wanted and with these prices almost no one will bother to use.
I just can not begin to comprehend how you could have borked this any worse than what you did. Unless two zero's get added to the conversion rate in the next 24 hours then i'm resigned to believe that you set out to screw us from day one and all you're PR to the contrary the proof is there for all to see.
An expansion no one participates in is a failed effort and they way you rolled this out I'd be stunned to see anyone partake in this blatant rip off.
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2011.06.22 14:08:00 -
[151]
Originally by: Dodgy Past Edited by: Dodgy Past on 22/06/2011 13:46:12
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.

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Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
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Posted - 2011.06.22 14:10:00 -
[152]
WTS Brown monocle
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Mukutep
Assero Argentum
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Posted - 2011.06.22 14:11:00 -
[153]
If the monicle could shoot a laser from your eye and kill other people once true Walking in Stations comes... I'd buy one.
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Joe Skellington
Minmatar Caldari Elite Force Apocalypse Now.
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Posted - 2011.06.22 14:18:00 -
[154]
Originally by: Taedrin
But this is not the case - you lose the shirt you bought if you get podded.
You lose it if it's in your hangar, if you're wearing it, it goes with you to your new clone.
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Khamal Jolstien
Caldari Sick Tight BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.06.22 14:31:00 -
[155]
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Quoting so more people see this unprofessional response.
Originally by: McKinlay When you get on the batphone and the only people left in the phone book are Aeternus and BLAST it might be time to hang up.
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Sirion Fujiwara
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Posted - 2011.06.22 14:46:00 -
[156]
Originally by: Khamal Jolstien
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Quoting so more people see this unprofessional response.
Pretty disgraceful attitude to be honest. But this is the CCP I have come to know over the past 7 years: Barely veiled arrogance, combined with steadily declining effort to achieve 'excellence'. Don't think anyone's buying that one anymore.
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Mylor Torlone
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Posted - 2011.06.22 15:24:00 -
[157]
Originally by: Khamal Jolstien
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Quoting so more people see this unprofessional response.
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Warpshade
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Posted - 2011.06.22 15:36:00 -
[158]
I can actually entertain a cash shop/micro transaction, as long as the items make sense i.e. scale and are consistent with the game world. But to make clothing of all things, be valued more than Spaceships is pretty insane IMHO.
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Bklyn 1
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Posted - 2011.06.22 15:42:00 -
[159]
I was going to buy 3 pair of pants in real life, but then I decided I'd rather buy 1 pair of imaginary computer game pants.
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Selune Virra
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Posted - 2011.06.22 16:19:00 -
[160]
Originally by: Zief
Originally by: Peri Simone
Older gamer, has a reasonably paid job, doesn't buy plex because he enjoys the challenge of in-game trading and thinks "blowing up internet spaceships" is more fun with an element of risk, never bought a designer suit in his life, thinks you're a bit of a tit.
"third'ed"
motion passed.
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I'thari
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.22 16:27:00 -
[161]
Originally by: Bklyn 1 I was going to buy 3 pair of pants in real life, but then I decided I'd rather buy 1 pair of imaginary computer game pants.
+5 True Sansha Leather Pants of Trolling? |

Reloadin
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Posted - 2011.06.22 16:35:00 -
[162]
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
The truth hurts.
Entitled children must have things now.
You cannot win EvE until you are wearing a monocle.
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Komen
Gallente The Night Crew
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Posted - 2011.06.22 16:37:00 -
[163]
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
In very poor form, sir. I realize you must be upset at all the rage on the forums today, but this is not the proper venue for venting. And venting at the people who pay you your salary is NOT a good idea.
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Merrick Saraki
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Posted - 2011.06.22 18:34:00 -
[164]
Originally by: Mylor Torlone
Originally by: Khamal Jolstien
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Quoting so more people see this unprofessional response.
+1 So there are people willing to trade a cap ship for a piece of eyeball bling they can look at while sitting on their spacesofa?
Seriously though, these prices are pants-on-head ******ed and it's a complete slap in the face.
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Obviously Confidential
Amarr Hedion University
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Posted - 2011.06.22 18:41:00 -
[165]
Charge whatever you want for the items, eventually you will learn to do proper price/volume optimization. I suspect the first step in this new process for CCP will involve realizing that at :50bux: you will not sell a lot of vanity items. I wonder how many CCP employees that play the game went for these...
That said, and out of respect for the very world you guys created, please remove all ties between Aurum and in game isk/plex/whatever since it is seriously immersion breaking and is not really the smart thing to do.
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Farham
The Scope
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Posted - 2011.06.22 18:55:00 -
[166]
Let's be honest here, at that price it is actually a real bargain since it is at least 10x more useful than a dread right now. Not hacking it in 0.0 since 2006
Farham is my name, and fail quoting is my game. |

Trevikk
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Posted - 2011.06.22 20:31:00 -
[167]
You people are looking at this the wrong way. One of my favorite things about EvE is that, in New Eden, idiots are a harvestable resource. Rich idiots are the best; I look at them like a miner looks at arkanor. The great thing about monocles is that they allow the over-funded to edit their portraits to display to all the world that they have more money than sense, which should make choosing a target that much easier.
CCP: I would greatly appreciate a wider selection of more affordable clothing, but please keep monocles stupidly expensive.
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Urgg Boolean
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Posted - 2011.06.22 21:46:00 -
[168]
Originally by: Lucilla Giulia [ 2011.06.22 00:00:44 ] CCP Zinfandel > The Looking Glass Ocular Implant (right/gold) is fairly expensive. It's also a machine being installed into your eye and one would not want to buy a cheap version of something to go in your face.
you guys have it all wrong, is not about MT is about roleplay  besides, if i get podded i loose my implants, y whouldn't i loose my clothes and/or eyepatches?i mean always considering it form a roleplay pov...
I may [may] buy the line about role play. But clothing goes onto my body, not into it. Not being an implant, I need to worry about quality of function much less. So tell me why fake articles of clothing [that are really records in the database that get rendered on your screen] cost as much as a real clothing IRL ??? Keep your role play, and I'll keep my cash.
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Urgg Boolean
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Posted - 2011.06.22 21:50:00 -
[169]
Originally by: Bomberlocks
Originally by: Dodgy Past Edited by: Dodgy Past on 22/06/2011 13:46:12
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.

ROFLMAO !!!! There are 4 EvE players is the room with me now and we are all ROFLMAOing!!! I'm glad I got to see the pic before a forum dev converted it to a link ...
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Crni Bauk
Caldari Purge Corp
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Posted - 2011.06.22 22:05:00 -
[170]
I was searching the meaning of this new option in EVE and found out that there is more on the table than one or two description/tutorial 
Well, first I was very excited about newish interface. When I saw this "Noble Exchange" I thought that CCP came up with a fantastic idea: selling real Life shirts, dresses, boots etc. for "PLEX, ISK, AUR...". I will not lie, I wanted to buy those boots. They would look very nice on me at the beginning of a cool winter. But then came dissapointment Reading this post I have realized that those nice things are only affordable in game and only on your character. Too much for virtual suite or else. 100 million or similar amount would be OK, but billions .... On the other hand, I agree with this:
Originally by: Nina Dakatt ...This enables me to play EvE, Play another FotM game/MMO, keep the Mrs happy, spend time with the kids, go out and eat steak every night if i choose and run a mercedes.
I do this because i work hard and deserve to have an easy grind free fun playtime.
...When station walking comes into play then so will EvE politics, Alliance discussion will be conducted around a table not IRC, As in RL image will be everything, In RL i wear designer suits to make the right impact, they more than pay for themselves thanks....
There are people who have money for throwing away and CCP saw this as opportunity for making money: "Sheeps are there for shearing". All of you friends know this or if you dont, you will learn it sooner or later. But Nina, I assume that a lot of people who play EVE, work as hard as you, but they are not paid as you to buy mercedes or eat steak every night. This way I understand "rage" or "disatisfaction" of the friends here on forum.
I appeal to CCP staff to reconsider this option to a Real Life buying option and I assure them that I will be the first who will buy those leather boots 
Thanks and cheers 
Vudan
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Athena Tarsis
Minmatar Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2011.06.22 22:08:00 -
[171]
Originally by: Miilla Edited by: Miilla on 22/06/2011 10:25:52 That shows one thing, CCP really hope to MILK REAL MONEY Out of you all. hahah
Out of who? --
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Karash Amerius
Sutoka
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Posted - 2011.06.22 22:18:00 -
[172]
This thread should be a good target list from all the whiners that are stupid enough to pay this sort of money (or want to pay as it were) for a virtual nothing.
I see vets leaving just because how stupid the community has become...which is saying a lot really. ========================= Karash Amerius - Operative - Sutoka Fighting Broke - A Eve Online Blog ========================= |

Alissa Solette
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Posted - 2011.06.22 22:29:00 -
[173]
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Not for that price it aint scammers... Next you'll be asking me to pay my subscription via Western Union or what?
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George Wilkes Hill
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Posted - 2011.06.22 22:40:00 -
[174]
Originally by: Sirion Fujiwara
Originally by: Khamal Jolstien
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Quoting so more people see this unprofessional response.
Pretty disgraceful attitude to be honest. But this is the CCP I have come to know over the past 7 years: Barely veiled arrogance, combined with steadily declining effort to achieve 'excellence'. Don't think anyone's buying that one anymore.
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George Wilkes Hill
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Posted - 2011.06.22 22:42:00 -
[175]
Originally by: Merrick Saraki
Originally by: Mylor Torlone
Originally by: Khamal Jolstien
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Quoting so more people see this unprofessional response.
+1 So there are people willing to trade a cap ship for a piece of eyeball bling they can look at while sitting on their spacesofa?
Seriously though, these prices are pants-on-head ******ed and it's a complete slap in the face.
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George Wilkes Hill
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Posted - 2011.06.22 22:56:00 -
[176]
Originally by: Karash Amerius This thread should be a good target list from all the whiners that are stupid enough to pay this sort of money (or want to pay as it were) for a virtual nothing.
I see vets leaving just because how stupid the community has become...which is saying a lot really.
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George Wilkes Hill
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Posted - 2011.06.22 23:01:00 -
[177]
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
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Burhtun
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Posted - 2011.06.23 00:36:00 -
[178]
Edited by: Burhtun on 23/06/2011 00:38:07 This doesn't even make sense from a role play perspective.
If you're stinking rich you own dreadnaughts, super carriers, titans... not monocles. A freaking monocle that costs as much as a capital freaking space ship? Role play your way through that one. Oh I know... this monocle is made of carriers that have been compressed by a black hole into space-diamonds.
This doesn't make sense as an ISK sink. Because they don't remove ISK from the game at any point. They remove PLEX.
Clothes should have been items purchasable with ISK, 100,000 ISK for the most expensive items. Or just added to the customization window free of charge. Because we pay a subscription to play this game. I really don't care about virtual clothes. I am not butt-hurt because I can not afford them. I just think if you're going to release an expansion, make it a fully featured one, not an absurd cash-grab. I used to really admire CCP as a company that has stood by its flagship product, constantly improving it. You seemed to be a company that really cared about its IP, something that seems more and more rare these days. Now I don't know what to think. As it is now, this just makes EVE and CCP kind of a joke. But if this is CCP's new direction and will work its way throughout the game, then I can't see myself sticking around.
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Shadii Thanetor
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:05:00 -
[179]
Edited by: Shadii Thanetor on 23/06/2011 01:10:47
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
With all the madness and raging on the forums - is this honestly supposed to represent CCP's contribution ?
You should be bloody ashamed - and I say that because making some joke or "pun" quite honestly at this point is adding insult to injury - and from a CCP representative I would have expected something a little more professional.
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George Wilkes Hill
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:37:00 -
[180]
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
What a douche.
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George Wilkes Hill
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:46:00 -
[181]
Originally by: George Wilkes Hill
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
What a douche.
This thread, I will not let it fall to the wayside the people must see your atrocities and you must PAY FOR THEM!!!!!!!!
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HostageTaker
Gallente Band of Freelancers
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:48:00 -
[182]
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Fuk you.
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Black Dranzer
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:50:00 -
[183]
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Not helping.
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George Wilkes Hill
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:55:00 -
[184]
Originally by: HostageTaker
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Fuk you.
Bumped for great justice.
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Alley Specter
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:56:00 -
[185]
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
I thought this was the epitome of rudeness possible for a CCP employee.
Now I will apologize for thinking this, for I realize that this is.
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George Wilkes Hill
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:05:00 -
[186]
Originally by: Alley Specter
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
I thought this was the epitome of rudeness possible for a CCP employee.
Now I will apologize for thinking this, for I realize that this is.
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Mr Mvoice
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:14:00 -
[187]
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
sad but true, -3 accounts on that
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Mirime Nolwe
APOCALYPSE LEGION
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:20:00 -
[188]
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1534552
- 1 account for this and the failure that have been the content for the last year. CCP will probably remember that is the playerbase that keep the game going forward. I will be back when we get the concept of "old" EVE, till then. o/ fly safe
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Linda Shadowborn
Gallente Dark Steel Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:31:00 -
[189]
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
thumbs up.. no wait.. that isnt my thumb
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Brokers Clone
Amarr Northgate
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:34:00 -
[190]
Edited by: Brokers Clone on 23/06/2011 02:36:21
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Are you Effin INSANE?
Stepping into the hotest Forum in ages... With THAT? Good god man, READ the forums... CCP is in flames
jezzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
In case you missed it, http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1534552&page=1 Soon as this hits the mainstream press, you guys are TOAST I am not talking PC Gamer... S**T like this makes the Washington Post, and the WSJ
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Captain Alcatraz
Invicta. Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:38:00 -
[191]
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Best thing CCP could come up with in this mega fail?
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Zondrail
Formic Hive
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:43:00 -
[192]
Originally by: Captain Alcatraz
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Best thing CCP could come up with in this mega fail?
Maybe read the thread and see his second post?
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Saddeyes
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:45:00 -
[193]
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
So from all of our concerns we get a smart ass remark?
Sounds like you should apply for Blizzard. Right around your caliber.
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Katrina Cortez
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:55:00 -
[194]
Thing is both the monocle and the dread are both worthless...
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Callha Ri
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:55:00 -
[195]
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Very professional, especially after two whole days waiting for an official answer on ccp's part...
If I had done what you did here, where I work I would have been fired right away. I hope you realise the magnitude of your action, you probably do, after this **** storm you just spawned above your head.
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Gabriel Grimoire
Amarr Ascendent. Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:58:00 -
[196]
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the wallet of CCP.
Fixed.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Leonard T. Washington gets buck naked for no man. |

General Xenophon
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Posted - 2011.06.23 03:10:00 -
[197]
Edited by: General Xenophon on 23/06/2011 03:11:28
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
-fixed- ----------------------------------------------- One stupid item in a 'pay to play' game shouldn't cost 5 months of playtime to buy in an item shop! |

JC Anderson
Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.06.23 03:25:00 -
[198]
So... Lets see....
I'm torn between buying a Vindicator, or a stupid eye-piece and a pair of boots....
Seriously, they had to have either been drunk, or accidentally entered the wrong numbers when coming up with the item prices in the MT store.
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Katrina Cortez
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Posted - 2011.06.23 03:27:00 -
[199]
Edited by: Katrina Cortez on 23/06/2011 03:28:03
Originally by: General Xenophon Edited by: General Xenophon on 23/06/2011 03:11:28
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
-fixed-
You forgot the ships... Star Trek - Modular ships, custom skins, corp logos Eve - none
and the full ground combat and bridge officers too.
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Saratonias
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Posted - 2011.06.23 03:47:00 -
[200]
Originally by: Mr Kidd
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Yesterday I thought the same thing. Then I slept on it and decided that we should care because in its current state MT EXCLUDES a vast majority of players even if they WANTED to do it. What's disturbing is that is where development resources are going instead of fixing problems and creating REAL content. That is why everyone should care about this fiasco. It's CCP giving a big FU to its own playerbase.
This. **** you CCP.
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Nath Blazek
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Posted - 2011.06.23 03:48:00 -
[201]
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Thanks for reinforcing my decision to cancel both my accounts with the Blizzard smartaleck responses to your paying customers. Good riddance ccp.
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Leisen
Caldari Interrobang Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.23 03:56:00 -
[202]
Originally by: General Xenophon Edited by: General Xenophon on 23/06/2011 03:11:28
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
-fixed-
Fukken lol'd
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Ron Bacardi
SniggWaffe FREE KARTTOON NOW
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Posted - 2011.06.23 04:01:00 -
[203]
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
this is why I love CCP.
Players: *whine* CCP: u mad?
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Crymeea River
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Posted - 2011.06.23 04:11:00 -
[204]
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
I might laugh if you and the rest of CCP weren;t a bunch of greedy *******s
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Tobin Shalim
Eclipse Industrials Quantum Forge
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Posted - 2011.06.23 04:16:00 -
[205]
Edited by: Tobin Shalim on 23/06/2011 04:17:06
Originally by: CCP Guard Guys, I didn't mean to offend with my little wordplay there. Sorry if I did. A more serious reply to your concerns and questions regarding pricing of virtual goods is coming. The workday started not long ago over here and most of us were up late monitoring initial reactions and spinning our dudes in CQ. We are piecing together the different opinions and we'll do our best to address all of them.
Thank you all for your patience.
There's only one initial reaction: fix the ****ing insanely stupid prices you mother****ing, ****sucking, money-grubbing for your ******* habit (which is the only explanation for this immense cluster**** is that the whole dev team has inhaled a few pounds of blow. Each.), solid-gold fishtanking, filthy, greedy, Bernie Madhoff learning from, Jews.
Oh, and on top of that, when customers come to your forums to tell you this is a bad ****ing idea, don't mock them when they bring up concerns. I guarantee you that it will NOT generate good press for you.
edit: I apologize for my excessive profanity in my post. However, after seeing the idiotic levels of RL money you expect us to dump into the NeX stuff already inflamed me. CCP Guard's response only pushed me over the edge. Again, I apologize for being so crass and crude. -----
Originally by: Gierling Tech III is going to be "Fully modular" until someone crams the "EW Bonus" modules together with the "8 Midslots" modules...
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General Xenophon
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Posted - 2011.06.23 04:20:00 -
[206]
Edited by: General Xenophon on 23/06/2011 04:25:57
Originally by: Tobin Shalim Edited by: Tobin Shalim on 23/06/2011 04:17:06
Originally by: CCP Guard Guys, I didn't mean to offend with my little wordplay there. Sorry if I did. A more serious reply to your concerns and questions regarding pricing of virtual goods is coming. The workday started not long ago over here and most of us were up late monitoring initial reactions and spinning our dudes in CQ. We are piecing together the different opinions and we'll do our best to address all of them.
Thank you all for your patience.
There's only one initial reaction: fix the ****ing insanely stupid prices you mother****ing, ****sucking, money-grubbing for your ******* habit (which is the only explanation for this immense cluster**** is that the whole dev team has inhaled a few pounds of blow. Each.), solid-gold fishtanking, filthy, greedy, Bernie Madhoff learning from, Jews.
Oh, and on top of that, when customers come to your forums to tell you this is a bad ****ing idea, don't mock them when they bring up concerns. I guarantee you that it will NOT generate good press for you.
edit: I apologize for my excessive profanity in my post. However, after seeing the idiotic levels of RL money you expect us to dump into the NeX stuff already inflamed me. CCP Guard's response only pushed me over the edge. Again, I apologize for being so crass and crude.
Apart from this hate crime (lol jk), I agree wholeheartedly the spirit of this post :p time to walk the plank CCP ye ripe bastards! ----------------------------------------------- One stupid item in a 'pay to play' game shouldn't cost 5 months worth of playtime to buy in an item shop! |

Justin Cody
Caldari T.A.L.O.N. Company
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Posted - 2011.06.23 04:24:00 -
[207]
This is why you should be able to cane people as a punishment.
Remind people that profit is the difference between revenue and expense. This makes you look smart. Scott Adams
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Ivbeen Cloned
Caldari Formidable Ops
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Posted - 2011.06.23 04:25:00 -
[208]
Originally by: Tobin Shalim Edited by: Tobin Shalim on 23/06/2011 04:17:06
Originally by: CCP Guard Guys, I didn't mean to offend with my little wordplay there. Sorry if I did. A more serious reply to your concerns and questions regarding pricing of virtual goods is coming. The workday started not long ago over here and most of us were up late monitoring initial reactions and spinning our dudes in CQ. We are piecing together the different opinions and we'll do our best to address all of them.
Thank you all for your patience.
There's only one initial reaction: fix the ****ing insanely stupid prices you mother****ing, ****sucking, money-grubbing for your ******* habit (which is the only explanation for this immense cluster**** is that the whole dev team has inhaled a few pounds of blow. Each.), solid-gold fishtanking, filthy, greedy, Bernie Madhoff learning from, Jews.
Oh, and on top of that, when customers come to your forums to tell you this is a bad ****ing idea, don't mock them when they bring up concerns. I guarantee you that it will NOT generate good press for you.
edit: I apologize for my excessive profanity in my post. However, after seeing the idiotic levels of RL money you expect us to dump into the NeX stuff already inflamed me. CCP Guard's response only pushed me over the edge. Again, I apologize for being so crass and crude.
+1
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Mehrdad Kor-Azor
Amarr Iure Divino
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Posted - 2011.06.23 04:27:00 -
[209]
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Let the firings commence?
Originally by: Klingon Admiral "Creation is so precious, and greed so destructive."
EVE Online: Tyrannis Teaser Summer 2010
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Justin Cody
Caldari T.A.L.O.N. Company
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Posted - 2011.06.23 04:29:00 -
[210]
Sell CCP off to EA already and get it over with...
Remind people that profit is the difference between revenue and expense. This makes you look smart. Scott Adams
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Falcus Aurelius
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Posted - 2011.06.23 04:41:00 -
[211]
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Good one bro, thanks for giving us what we have come to expect from ccp. 
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Lexa Hellfury
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2011.06.23 05:00:00 -
[212]
lol --------------------------------------------------------------------
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MissBehaving
Caldari The Resident Haunting Narwhals Ate My Duck
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Posted - 2011.06.23 05:31:00 -
[213]
Really ? wow.. ummm... **** it im gonna sleep on that comment lol. D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. |

Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2011.06.23 05:34:00 -
[214]
The monocle lasts a lot longer than a dreadnought and is more useful. Therefore, it is worth more, yes? :P
Creation is so precious, and greed so destructive - http://v.gd/tm28yT |

Jaik7
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Posted - 2011.06.23 05:51:00 -
[215]
Originally by: CCP Guard
Thank you all for your patience.
the other day, i was flying home using our wonderful airport system. my plane broke down on the runway. after explaining the situation over the intercom, the captain said "thank you for your patience"
i would have started a riot if i thought it would have helped anything. my "patience" is me not doing anything because i know i won't have a positive effect on anything. I am a very impatient person.
thank me for not caring enough to unsub. thankfully you left the space part of this space MMO intact so i can ignore this part until you manage to do something.
and seriously, i don't like the witty comments you guys make when everyone is furious at you. "u mad bro?" is not what i want to hear from my devs.
Originally by: CCP Shadow The trolls have been vanquished.
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Dalton Vanadis
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Posted - 2011.06.23 06:18:00 -
[216]
Edited by: Dalton Vanadis on 23/06/2011 06:20:13 Edited by: Dalton Vanadis on 23/06/2011 06:19:09
Originally by: Lexa Hellfury lol
Best link EVAH!
Also, seriously, I'm generally of the mind to give CCP the benefit of the doubt on stuffs, they do have some of the most intelligent people in the industry after all. But I really really hope you guys had a decimal error or something with the NeX system, because the alternative does not look good for you.
Also, Guard, I know you weren't trying to be a flaming, pants on head ******ed, douche with your first comment and there's no real way you can make that go away. Hopefully it doesn't bite you in the ass too hard, but seriously, next time, don't joke at least until a couple of pages in and you can see the OMGWTFNERDRAGE clearly (especially after a CCP announcement/expansion because that's when it happens). Thank you though for your second comment and I do look forward to hearing CCP's response to the issue, hopefully soon-ish.
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Flex Carter
Caldari Independant Mining Association
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Posted - 2011.06.23 06:18:00 -
[217]
Originally by: General Xenophon
Time to walk the plank CCP ye ripe bastards!
Simply Awesome m8....  
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Amira Kornova
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Posted - 2011.06.23 06:19:00 -
[218]
Originally by: Syphon Lodian You're not of proper Nobility to buy anything from the Noble market, get out of my EVE you peasant.
\
not this guy is hilarious!!!
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.23 06:31:00 -
[219]
Edited by: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai on 23/06/2011 06:32:24 24 hours into the rage and CCP's answer is...
(...)
With likely intent to add the further comment:
(...)
And just a few days ago I was asking people to give thanks to CCP employees surfing these forums. Feeling stoopid now. Specially since yesterday I entered game and about half an hour later I noticed I was on the verge of turning off CQ, as I am not using it for anything and it is distracting to have it blinking and moving amidst the interface windows I actually use for playing... I am feeling so stoopid and appalled... 
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Fractal Muse
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Posted - 2011.06.23 06:35:00 -
[220]
Originally by: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
And just a few days ago I was asking people to give thanks to CCP employees surfing these forums. Feeling stoopid now. Specially since yesterday I entered game and about half an hour later I noticed I was on the verge of turning off CQ, as I am not using it for anything and it is distracting to have it blinking and moving amidst the interface windows I actually use for playing... I am feeling so stoopid and appalled... 
There is a solution. It's only a few clicks away.
Do you -really- want to be associated with this game any longer?
As an aside, I thought the in the eye of the beholder quote was funny. It was a little... short-sighted. Perhaps a little blind.
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.23 06:44:00 -
[221]
Originally by: Fractal Muse
Originally by: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
And just a few days ago I was asking people to give thanks to CCP employees surfing these forums. Feeling stoopid now. Specially since yesterday I entered game and about half an hour later I noticed I was on the verge of turning off CQ, as I am not using it for anything and it is distracting to have it blinking and moving amidst the interface windows I actually use for playing... I am feeling so stoopid and appalled... 
There is a solution. It's only a few clicks away.
Do you -really- want to be associated with this game any longer?
As an aside, I thought the in the eye of the beholder quote was funny. It was a little... short-sighted. Perhaps a little blind.
Dude, I am not quitting. I am just dismissing about the CQ and the whole Incarna stuff as I wanted to play Space Barbies each now and then, but can't afford to spend three months of gameplay into a bloody skirt.
I am very disappointed as I had great expectations from Sisi testing, and reality has hit me hard. Also don't feel very comfy playing the utterly deranged game who created virtual items more expensive than their actual counterparts. I hope this doesn't makes into any general news network, would be embarrassing to enter the public eye this way... 
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.23 13:01:00 -
[222]
Still no news? Everything is going as planned, CCP? 
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Naloth
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Posted - 2011.06.23 13:18:00 -
[223]
Originally by: CCP Guard Guys, I didn't mean to offend with my little wordplay there. Sorry if I did. A more serious reply to your concerns and questions regarding pricing of virtual goods is coming. The workday started not long ago over here and most of us were up late monitoring initial reactions and spinning our dudes in CQ. We are piecing together the different opinions and we'll do our best to address all of them.
Thank you all for your patience.
Your wordplay wasn't the issue, I found it amusing. I think the problem was that your post was nothing but that wordplay. When the forums are blazing this badly, no joke is going to be taken all that well. You'd have been better off just switching the order of your posts.
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zlt
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Posted - 2011.06.23 13:39:00 -
[224]
Bump
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Versuvius Marii
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Posted - 2011.06.23 13:43:00 -
[225]
Originally by: CCP Guard The workday started not long ago over here and most of us were up late monitoring initial reactions and spinning our dudes in CQ.
Confirming CCP are spending the monacle isk on people spinning. Didn't you know? Ship spinning was far more fun. Screw this "people spinning" and fix the game dammit!
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Gothikia
Regeneration
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Posted - 2011.06.23 14:12:00 -
[226]
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Mate, if thats your attitude to this ****storm that you idiots have caused, then just quit. I don't want to pay the salary of someone who is being a total douche to the people who made this game into what it really is.
Join Regeneration! |

Lloir
Caldari DUST 421 War and Pestilence
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Posted - 2011.06.23 14:13:00 -
[227]
Originally by: Gothikia
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Mate, if thats your attitude to this ****storm that you idiots have caused, then just quit. I don't want to pay the salary of someone who is being a total douche to the people who made this game into what it really is.
this null |

kardjaval
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Posted - 2011.06.23 14:17:00 -
[228]
it's a goddamn vanity item, really what are you whining about, show me a picture of some ccp with a gun to your head, forcing you to shell out the 60$ for it.
think of it this way, look at high end jewelry the stuff that costs millions, now look at a simple sports car, the car (eve ship) cost 100k, the jewelry costs 2.4 million, the jewelry does get you from A to B, it does allow you to transport your kids to school and home, yet those who can afford it, do so to flaunt their wealth, the eye piece is EXACTLY the same concept.
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QT McWhiskers
EdgeGamers Situation Normal.
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Posted - 2011.06.23 14:22:00 -
[229]
Not even square enix blundered this badly CCP.
And they have a history of screwing up badly.
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Stitcher
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.23 14:31:00 -
[230]
Jesus badgergargling Christ, people. If you can't grow your own sense of humour, then buy one off eBay.
Get over yourselves you pack of screaming pompous brats. I agree with the general point that NeX goods are far too expensive, but I'm going to have to spend days washing the reek of your collective sense of entitlement out of my clothes and hair.
********s the lot of you. -
- Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain.
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Aarri Vishnorzen
Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.06.23 14:39:00 -
[231]
Edited by: Aarri Vishnorzen on 23/06/2011 14:39:27 lulzsec wears a monocle.
http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/1341989664/somehwat-mad-completely-mad-u-mad-MADAD_reasonably_small.jpg
coincidence?
/discuss I'm old |

Inspiration
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Posted - 2011.06.23 14:52:00 -
[232]
Originally by: kardjaval it's a goddamn vanity item, really what are you whining about, show me a picture of some ccp with a gun to your head, forcing you to shell out the 60$ for it.
think of it this way, look at high end jewelry the stuff that costs millions, now look at a simple sports car, the car (eve ship) cost 100k, the jewelry costs 2.4 million, the jewelry does get you from A to B, it does allow you to transport your kids to school and home, yet those who can afford it, do so to flaunt their wealth, the eye piece is EXACTLY the same concept.
Economics isn't your strongest point, is it?
People at CCP get payed by our subscription money (indirectly) and either work on new features we desire and need, or they work on the monstrosity that is MT. A lot of resources and thus player subscription money wend into expanding the game into an area there was no player demand for. This leaves us with a choice of stop player *their* game, instead of *our game*, or suck it up and pay for stuff we do not really want. Read this in the context of years of feedback by the community being mostly ignored and you can see where the rage comes from.
Your argument/logic is one of, its optional, you don't have to buy it. Well, that is sadly untrue, we already paid for it in advance!
How does that translate to how you treat your customers. What service is CCP actually providing we wanted?
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Fi1ippo
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2011.06.23 14:56:00 -
[233]
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Stupid comment is stupid. Guess thats to be expected.
"The man behind the mask is a Maverik Letting off buck-ten shots for the hat trick."
From the song Overtime (Maverik Lacrosse Commercial), by D.One.
Life = Lax |

Apollo Gabriel
Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels Etherium Cartel
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Posted - 2011.06.23 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Guard Guys, I didn't mean to offend with my little wordplay there. Sorry if I did. A more serious reply to your concerns and questions regarding pricing of virtual goods is coming. The workday started not long ago over here and most of us were up late monitoring initial reactions and spinning our dudes in CQ. We are piecing together the different opinions and we'll do our best to address all of them.
Thank you all for your patience.
Thanks for your reply. We look forward to more.
AG
***** Signature may appear without warning! ***** Please do not feed the trolls, it builds dependency.
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George Wilkes Hill
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Posted - 2011.06.23 16:53:00 -
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Originally by: Falcus Aurelius
Originally by: CCP Guard It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Good one bro, thanks for giving us what we have come to expect from ccp. 
FOR GREAT JUSTICE EXPOSING A GREAT DOUCHE!!!!!!!
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Myra2007
Millstone Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.23 16:55:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Guard The workday started not long ago over here and most of us were up late monitoring initial reactions and spinning our dudes in CQ. We are piecing together the different opinions and we'll do our best to address all of them.
Thank you all for your patience.
You work 72 hour days? My condolences, man.  -- Zinfandelgate - A fictionalized account of the events that led to June, 21st |

Kim Jong Il
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Posted - 2011.06.23 16:57:00 -
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Well what a tosser CCP Guard has turned out to be.
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George Wilkes Hill
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Posted - 2011.06.23 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: Kim Jong Il Well what a tosser CCP Guard has turned out to be.
This will not go by the way side.
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CCP Spitfire
C C P C C P Alliance

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Posted - 2011.06.23 17:04:00 -
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Please keep the discussion in this thread.
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Jefferson H Clay
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Posted - 2011.06.23 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: kardjaval it's a goddamn vanity item, really what are you whining about, show me a picture of some ccp with a gun to your head, forcing you to shell out the 60$ for it.
I know you're trollin but I'm just going to point out that both sparkle-pony and derp-lion were/are cheaper than this monocle (I could buy both of them for less if I remember) AND actually did something in the game. You could ride them around like any other mount.
The monocle is more than sparkle-pony and does nothing.
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