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Anslo Disciples of Night Dominion of Darkness	Posted - 2011.06.23 04:15:00 - [1] I like CQ. I don't like the AURUM shop but hey, I don't have to buy anything from it. I like the tech that CQ will act as a gateway into. I like that this is getting rid of a bunch of old, whiny, bittervet players who feel they are superior to everyone and everything and clearly do not understand what a business does to make way for a fresh batch of new subscribers (5 of my friends say they will be checking out EVE and subbing once Incarna is further developed). I like CCP for what they're doing and look forward to many many more years of subbing. To everyone else leaving and raging and thinking your little canceling fit and "demanding" CCP to abandon these changes when YOU ALL ragged on them in the first place to bring it out, don't even give me your stuff, please just leave. To everyone else staying, here's to another 8 years of win.
XIRUSPHERE Gallente The 8th Order Mean Coalition	Posted - 2011.06.23 04:16:00 - [2] Ansro knowing the definition of win in my eve?
xwolfi	Posted - 2011.06.23 04:17:00 - [3] Edited by: xwolfi on 23/06/2011 04:17:33 Come on CCP we would recognize you anywhere :D
Machon Danichus	Posted - 2011.06.23 04:18:00 - [4] What is the opposite of x'ing up?
Alara IonStorm	Posted - 2011.06.23 04:19:00 - [5] Originally by: Machon Danichus What is the opposite of x'ing up? An Upside Down X of course.
Unit CA108AF	Posted - 2011.06.23 04:19:00 - [6] X- re-subbed for 2 more months :)
Debbie Hakomairos	Posted - 2011.06.23 04:20:00 - [7] +1 Raging about AURUM makes no sense - are they mad because its there or mad because they can't afford it? No one makes them use it and it is a new feature, not something that was there before so they have no precedent for their rage, at all. Love the new tech and the possibilities it brings
Apollo Gabriel Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels Etherium Cartel	Posted - 2011.06.23 04:20:00 - [8] Originally by: Anslo To everyone else leaving and raging and thinking your little canceling fit and "demanding" CCP to abandon these changes when YOU ALL ragged on them in the first place to bring it out, don't even give me your stuff, please just leave. To everyone else staying, here's to another 8 years of win. You fail at reading. We're **ed because you can turn money into battleships and ammo, sidestepping the player economy. We're ed because you can buy special ammo, faction standings, and who the knows what else now. * Signature may appear without warning! *** Please do not feed the trolls, it builds dependency.
Peter Greed	Posted - 2011.06.23 04:20:00 - [9] Originally by: Anslo I like that this is getting rid of a bunch of old, whiny, bittervet players who feel they are superior to everyone and everything You realize you are describing the majority of this community, right? The ones that carried the CCP banner for a very, very long time precisely because CCP realized this. The new CCP never learned this, not until now.... buy hey, education is costly. How costly will be determined by how quickly the new CCP learns this.
Mehrdad Kor-Azor Amarr Iure Divino	Posted - 2011.06.23 04:21:00 - [10] I'm resubbing, but just to see where things are headed. The moment I see a MT that gives an in-game advantage, I'm out. And that's that. Or they could just fire this guy: Originally by: Klingon Admiral "Creation is so precious, and greed so destructive." EVE Online: Tyrannis Teaser Summer 2010
democrities Zebra Corp BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2011.06.23 04:22:00 - [11] I love CQ too. Though the microtransactions are stupid, but I can't wait until incarna is fully done with walking in stations and such, it'll be awesome.
Tali Ambraelle	Posted - 2011.06.23 04:22:00 - [12] Originally by: Apollo Gabriel Originally by: Anslo To everyone else leaving and raging and thinking your little canceling fit and "demanding" CCP to abandon these changes when YOU ALL ragged on them in the first place to bring it out, don't even give me your stuff, please just leave. To everyone else staying, here's to another 8 years of win. You fail at reading. We're **ed because you can turn money into battleships and ammo, sidestepping the player economy. We're ed because you can buy special ammo, faction standings, and who the knows what else now. And is that implemented now? No. Could it change and never happen so it's only aesthetics? Yes. If that's the reason you people are **y, jumping to conclusions like this, then lol. Get out.
XIRUSPHERE Gallente The 8th Order Mean Coalition	Posted - 2011.06.23 04:22:00 - [13] Originally by: Debbie Hakomairos +1 Raging about AURUM makes no sense - are they mad because its there or mad because they can't afford it? No one makes them use it and it is a new feature, not something that was there before so they have no precedent for their rage, at all. Love the new tech and the possibilities it brings who paid the salaries of the devs and " experts " who wrought this? We all did. What used up man hours and resources that could have gone to desperately needed fixes? This was part of it. Does the vision of this implementation present a threat to the user base if allowed to grow into the monster we know it will? you bet your ass.
Tali Ambraelle	Posted - 2011.06.23 04:26:00 - [14] Originally by: XIRUSPHERE Originally by: Debbie Hakomairos +1 Raging about AURUM makes no sense - are they mad because its there or mad because they can't afford it? No one makes them use it and it is a new feature, not something that was there before so they have no precedent for their rage, at all. Love the new tech and the possibilities it brings who paid the salaries of the devs and " experts " who wrought this? We all did. What used up man hours and resources that could have gone to desperately needed fixes? This was part of it. Does the vision of this implementation present a threat to the user base if allowed to grow into the monster we know it will? you bet your ass. Just because you pay doesn't mean you're entitled to say where a company should and shouldn't go. There's more people to please then a few whiny bittervets who don't like the dev team catering to their every whim. Incarna is a huge step in the right direction. It's rough around the edges, sure. But this is the biggest step to making EVE the best all encompassing one world Sci-Fi game on the market. Hell, they even said it was impossible to be looking at our ships IN THE FIRST PLACE while docked initially, and people *****ed and whined about it. Now, it's finally here, and you sods can't run it? Why should CCP assume you all have crap rigs when you're asking for all this? They answer your rage and this is what happens? Give me a break. Incarna is good, it'll get better, and if you're not patient enough to see it through just get out, never come back. We don't need you here. Here's looking to a new era and new subscriptions :)
Tressin Khiyne Minmatar The Tuskers	Posted - 2011.06.23 04:30:00 - [15] Been playing since '04. Eve constantly gets better, in spite of the community. Incarna will make Eve an even better game, everything else is the same it was three days ago - improving. Lag has improved consistently over the last 3 years. Truth is, the "bitter vets" are just worried about the game they love, so let them rant about stuff that doesn't exist like they have some sort of premonition about game development. They serve a purpose, I'm sure. Bottom line, quitting is like suicide - people who actually do it don't talk about it, because they don't care anymore. --
OMGWTFResearch	Posted - 2011.06.23 04:36:00 - [16] While I do think there needs to be serious changes in the exchange for vanity items. I am actually quite impressed with the CQ and I do plan to keep playing EVE.
Black Leather	Posted - 2011.06.23 04:40:00 - [17] 2008-05-10 23:57:00 is my birth date. That was the day I discovered 'Walking in Stations', as Incarna was called then. I've waited a long time for this expansion and so far, I like the direction it's going. Not only will I not quit. I've added two more accts onto the four I currently have. I look forward to living the golden era of EVE becoming what it was always meant to be. A true future simulator integrating all the different aspects of lesser games into one cohesive, single universe. Cheers CCP and I look forward to many more years being a part of your empire. BL
XIRUSPHERE Gallente The 8th Order Mean Coalition	Posted - 2011.06.23 04:40:00 - [18] Originally by: Tali Ambraelle Originally by: XIRUSPHERE Originally by: Debbie Hakomairos +1 Raging about AURUM makes no sense - are they mad because its there or mad because they can't afford it? No one makes them use it and it is a new feature, not something that was there before so they have no precedent for their rage, at all. Love the new tech and the possibilities it brings who paid the salaries of the devs and " experts " who wrought this? We all did. What used up man hours and resources that could have gone to desperately needed fixes? This was part of it. Does the vision of this implementation present a threat to the user base if allowed to grow into the monster we know it will? you bet your ass. Just because you pay doesn't mean you're entitled to say where a company should and shouldn't go. There's more people to please then a few whiny bittervets who don't like the dev team catering to their every whim. Incarna is a huge step in the right direction. It's rough around the edges, sure. But this is the biggest step to making EVE the best all encompassing one world Sci-Fi game on the market. Hell, they even said it was impossible to be looking at our ships IN THE FIRST PLACE while docked initially, and people *****ed and whined about it. Now, it's finally here, and you sods can't run it? Why should CCP assume you all have crap rigs when you're asking for all this? They answer your rage and this is what happens? Give me a break. Incarna is good, it'll get better, and if you're not patient enough to see it through just get out, never come back. We don't need you here. Here's looking to a new era and new subscriptions :) I watched 5 years of BS come to this, Ive seen the last few years detach from core elements of game play to push more empty and unfinished content than ever. Up till now I have been pretty damn patient and I quite enjoy eve having been with it since early beta. personally I could give a damn about getting out of my ship and wish more power to those that do. But when all that time and all those resources come out as this badly coded tech demo with a MT system thrown in that has implications to completely destabilize this game you're gonna hear from me and many others like me. Get used to it.
Gosakumori Noh	Posted - 2011.06.23 04:41:00 - [19] The "not cancelling" vote will show in the server status charts. I doubt we will see much of a dip (unless those who have ended up on the wrong side of karma in certain territorial disputes commit mass suicide because their lives have lost all meaning). I would not go so far as to call myself "impressed" by Incarna, yet - but it is at least a first step. As for the cash shop, it does seem odd people who raged about there being a cash shop at all now rage that almost no one will pay billions for drab miniskirts and steam punk schlock.
Siigari Kitawa Gallente Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn	Posted - 2011.06.23 04:43:00 - [20] Not canceling, hi Ansro o/ www.siigarikitawa.com ò www.eohpoker.com ò Buy a GTC
Powie XIII	Posted - 2011.06.23 04:45:00 - [21] Partially not cancelling, i would like to see where CCP is heading. Will be cancelling only 1 of my 3 accounts.
Ghoest	Posted - 2011.06.23 04:46:00 - [22] 0 You wouldnt notice cancels for several months probably. Wherever you went - Here you are.
Aiwha Caldari 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda	Posted - 2011.06.23 04:47:00 - [23] Originally by: Mehrdad Kor-Azor The moment I see a MT that gives an in-game advantage, I'm out. And that's that. That's how I'm doing it. I'm fine with monocles that I'll never buy ingame, but if it gets to be ships/mods/implants on there I'm out. I can't heal stupid
Malias Yakusto	Posted - 2011.06.23 04:47:00 - [24]
Dirk Magnum Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic	Posted - 2011.06.23 04:51:00 - [25] XXX There are things I don't like about this patch, like the lag and DCs I've experienced in Everyshore lowsec tonight that seem out of place. Also that peoples' pirate implants disappeared and how apparently damage mods stopped working properly for awhile. Also the terrible lighting in CQ which really should have been fixed long ago when it was still on Sisi. And I won't begrudge the players who spend most of their time in stations doing trades, since obviously the CQ lag makes that task far more tedious. But as for the rest, like the lagginess of CQ as it relates to the average player and the ridiculous NEX prices... well, NEX is something I'd never use anyway, and CQ lagginess shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone. First of all if you're a long-term Eve subscriber and you've never been to the Test Server when major new features are rolled out then isn't that the bigger problem than you're being surprised by something everyone else has known about for weeks or months before it hit TQ? Anyway, for the most part the space game aspect of Eve is still functional at about 90% its normal level based on what I've been experiencing lately, and to be honest that's well within acceptable post-patch levels IMHO. The damage mod issue has apparently been fixed already, and I've heard that the pirate implants issue has been resolved for some people as well. If the space-game survives, Eve survives, no matter how bad the station game is. fake edit: I have also just noticed that the text box on this forum isn't broken anymore. It used to stop scrolling down after a certain point even though I still had lots of characters available to type, and now it doesn't. I make POST
Siigari Kitawa Gallente Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn	Posted - 2011.06.23 04:52:00 - [26] Hey! I posted that earlier, lol. www.siigarikitawa.com ò www.eohpoker.com ò Buy a GTC
Unit CA108AF	Posted - 2011.06.23 05:05:00 - [27] bump
Luke S Zeta Corp.	Posted - 2011.06.23 05:52:00 - [28] I pay by the year(*3), and make money doing nothing in this game. I have skills going around the clock. Every penny I put into my year with worth it. Sure there is some bugs, but that's the nature of software. ---
Dograzor The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2011.06.23 05:54:00 - [29] You forgot the overheating PC's hmm? - "We don't gank, we just apply force in a disproportionate manner during an uneven tactical combat situation to maximize revenue and increase shareholder value"
Dorian Tormak	Posted - 2011.06.23 05:57:00 - [30] Originally by: Aiwha Originally by: Mehrdad Kor-Azor The moment I see a MT that gives an in-game advantage, I'm out. And that's that. That's how I'm doing it. I'm fine with monocles that I'll never buy ingame, but if it gets to be ships/mods/implants on there I'm out. Same here. That would be pretty fukked up if you ask me. :(
Lipbite Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.23 06:00:00 - [31] XXX - that is not for **** - for 3 accounts. I like Incarna though graphic in cap quarters could/should be much better - at least like in character "constructor".
Maxpie Metaphysical Utopian Society Explorations	Posted - 2011.06.23 06:00:00 - [32] Can't say I'm not cancelling. Maybe I won't, but if I don't it says more about my corpies than it does about CCP, the expansion, or the state of Eve. He put... creatures... in our bodies... to control our minds. He made us... say lies... do things.
Ianus Caldari Geminus Gateway	Posted - 2011.06.23 06:03:00 - [33] Oops, I just canceled. If this ship keeps sailing in this direction, the 7th of September will be my last day on EVE. But I bear no anger towards the OP or other like-minded folk. To each his own. And I really do hope the best years of EVE are still ahead.
Obsidian Hawk RONA Legion RONA Directorate	Posted - 2011.06.23 06:06:00 - [34] X - CCP did make me mad, however I have faith they can turn it around. Besides, this is the only game that gives me a rush in pvp.
fweepa Gallente Infinite Improbability Inc	Posted - 2011.06.23 06:07:00 - [35] Originally by: Apollo Gabriel Originally by: Anslo To everyone else leaving and raging and thinking your little canceling fit and "demanding" CCP to abandon these changes when YOU ALL ragged on them in the first place to bring it out, don't even give me your stuff, please just leave. To everyone else staying, here's to another 8 years of win. You fail at reading. We're **ed because you can turn money into battleships and ammo, sidestepping the player economy. We're ed because you can buy special ammo, faction standings, and who the ** knows what else now. Um, you could do that before Incarna?? WTF is your point?
Half Cocked Jack	Posted - 2011.06.23 06:20:00 - [36] 1. I'm not cancelling. In fact, I'm uncancelling from a hiatus. I'm paid till sometime in the middle of next year anyway, so it would hardly matter if I decided to quit now or not. 2. I like the fact that these vanity items are so expensive. It keeps everyone from getting them, which means they actually matter. It also drives up PLEX prices, which makes it harder for people to maintain armies of bots and alts. That makes me happy. 3. The new turrets are friggin' awesome. And people say this expansion offered nothing in space...either they haven't shot at anything or they use missiles (sorry, missiles ). 4. My machine shows no signs of meltdown. It runs CQ like a charm as long as I keep textures on medium, and is a 2007 discounted Best Buy display model. 5. Everyone should have known we weren't getting much with Captain's Quarters...CCP has made no secret of that. Personally, I think that they lost a huge opportunity by incrementalizing its release. They could have released a finished product to the world amidst a flurry of PR and marketing to generate a wave of fresh interest. Instead, first impressions are now lackluster and it will be old news by the time it is fully iterated on. BUT, overall sentiment among the vets seems to be that they don't want a massive influx of noobs...so they should be pleased about how this is going down. 6. I don't believe the leaked document that has everyone's panties in a wad is legit (though if it turns out to be, it changes everything). He said she said something about mysterious "sources" does not, in any way, lend legitimacy. Until we have more information, the jury is out on this one.
Gilat Sumat	Posted - 2011.06.23 06:23:00 - [37] Instead of X'ing up, can I give you and CCP the Finger
Jaik7	Posted - 2011.06.23 06:31:00 - [38] i do intend to continue playing. like a previous poster, this will continue until i get bored with the game or they introduce items that are only buyable with real money. the thing that gets me most is that i can only run station enviros at minimal graphics at 19 or so FPS, while i can run space at 39-60 FPS with maxed graphics. Originally by: CCP Shadow The trolls have been vanquished.
Cebraio	Posted - 2011.06.23 06:42:00 - [39] Edited by: Cebraio on 23/06/2011 06:45:06 X - As a vet (but not too bitter) I don't agree with your fourth bullet point. I bought a subscription for one year and added three month lately. I will stay subscribed for a very long time ... until this: Originally by: Mehrdad Kor-Azor ... The moment I see a MT that gives an in-game advantage, I'm out. And that's that.
malaire	Posted - 2011.06.23 06:46:00 - [40] +1 Originally by: Half **ed Jack 2. I like the fact that these vanity items are so expensive. It keeps everyone from getting them, which means they actually matter. It also drives up PLEX prices, which makes it harder for people to maintain armies of bots and alts. That makes me happy. I think that PLEX price wont be affected much because current NeX items are so expensive and not many players will be getting them. Which is excellent. I like that there are options for players who have far too much ISK to burn (I'm not one of them). There could even be some more expensive items available. But I do hope that CCP will in time add more affordable options, few at a time, so that there will not be single massive moment when everyone will rush to NeX and cause PLEX price to rise too much. If this is CCP tactic, then I will support it fully. If there wont be any more affordable items later, then I can just ignore NeX. (Until I finally have far too much ISK to burn )
Mars Theran Caldari EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.23 06:51:00 - [41] x I cancelled my sub 3 months ago, have paid at least a month on an alts sub since then, and Plex'd another Alts sub, while paying yet another alt's sub for ~3 months, yet all but one odd alt is still cancelled, and I now have only 3 sub's of the original four. Which sub did I let go? Well, that would be the first sub of course. But here I am with one monthly pay alt sub, a near empty sub that I may PLEX, and my main Sub which I don't pay or PLEX. How's that? Well, it's paid of course; till the end of November, more or less. So what does all that nonsense mean? Well, it had nothing to do with CCP or CQ, that's what.
FeralShadow NME1	Posted - 2011.06.23 07:07:00 - [42] x resubbed _______________________________________________ "If you want to taste the ground, feel free to attack." - Kenshin Himura
Trig Onami Caldari Onami Corporation	Posted - 2011.06.23 07:22:00 - [43] I canceled once.. but it was for griefers that knew how to make me mad. After I HTFU a bit, I came back and payed but didn't play since life had taken a sudden turn for an opportunity to get laid for the first time in 10 years..(GF + Video Games = don't mix, usually [i am unlucky by nature]) BUT after I got what I wanted(wasn't that great, but better than nothing for the rest of my life), I ditched that liar and came back almost two weeks ago. I don't think I'm going to cancel anymore, since my new truck is now payed off.. and life is about to be more stable for me. Notice I have no complaints about the game, as much of what I enjoy about it is still there, behind the shiny new skin. And I post on my main, because I'm proud to be a EVE player that supports CCP's vision. I sure miss the positive vibe on the forums.. Glad to have found this thread. Peace. EVE. The most ambitious project on earth.
Demolishar	Posted - 2011.06.23 07:23:00 - [44] I pay with PLEX, so there's no point in quitting until my isk reserves dry up.
Shereza	Posted - 2011.06.23 08:09:00 - [45] X and soon to be X, X, and X as well. IOW I think I'll reopen my other three accounts. I could say it's because of all the nerdraging and me wanting to see if anyone has an aneurdysm (yes, intentional spelling) and dies from it, but that's just the icing on the cake. I want to see how high the flames get and I figure I might as well run my full court press while I watch.
Ming Lao Chent-Shi	Posted - 2011.06.23 08:15:00 - [46] X - Full year sub Cant wait to see what they bring to Incarna next. Thank god they got rid of that horrible hanger view.
Rellik B00n Lethal Death Squad	Posted - 2011.06.23 08:27:00 - [47] Edited by: Rellik B00n on 23/06/2011 08:29:39 Originally by: Mehrdad Kor-Azor I'm resubbing, but just to see where things are headed. The moment I see a MT that gives an in-game advantage, I'm out. And that's that. this. also the fact that my account is paid up til feb 2012 regardless . -IRON MIKE IS hi sec lolwarrior-
Female Face	Posted - 2011.06.23 08:28:00 - [48] not an "X" but a "Y" from me
catinboots Minmatar Vintage heavy industries	Posted - 2011.06.23 08:30:00 - [49] Let them un subscribe. It means more place for me and my 3 other accounts i agree the price of those vanity items are over the top, mainly because the plex price went up dramaticly over the last year, and i do feel a bit sorry for people using low end computers and video cards and CQ shouldn't be mandatory if you are just doing a quick change ofships or just unloading your orca or hauler during some mining ops by example I started this game after somebody told me about black monoliths in space , i thought cool a game about my favorite filmmaker Now 2,5 years and 4 accounts later , the game has improved in my opinion, there still alot todo and i am sure ccp is working on that incarnia just added a new lvl of immersion to it and i cant wait till that door finnaly opens Btw i still need to see one of those black monoliths so i will keep playing ________________________________________ Minmatar are like jedi knights, we use ductape as our force, it has a darkside and a sticky side
catinboots Minmatar Vintage heavy industries	Posted - 2011.06.23 08:33:00 - [50] Doub'le post sorry but i needed to add one more thing , i just love those new turret effects and the new sounds that come with them, something rarely mentioned these last two days ________________________________________ Minmatar are like jedi knights, we use ductape as our force, it has a darkside and a sticky side
catinboots Minmatar Vintage heavy industries	Posted - 2011.06.23 08:36:00 - [51] Doub'le post sorry but i needed to add one more thing , i just love those new turret effects and the new sounds that come with them, something rarely mentioned these last two days Plus the several little fixes that none of those whiners even dare to mention or the agent finder Great stuff ________________________________________ Minmatar are like jedi knights, we use ductape as our force, it has a darkside and a sticky side
Ancy Denaries	Posted - 2011.06.23 08:52:00 - [52] There's a lot about this "expansion" I'm not happy about, but I'm staying. So...X? ---- The Demigodess with a Conscience - An EVE IC Blog Originally by: CCP Dropbear rofl edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
Jasdemi	Posted - 2011.06.23 08:54:00 - [53] I have virtually cancelled just to express my opinion about Incarna in the reason box. Of course I'll resub again. Game is the same after all, with some new stuff.
impli Singularity. Talon Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.23 09:01:00 - [54] Originally by: democrities I love CQ too. Though the microtransactions are stupid, but I can't wait until incarna is fully done with walking in stations and such, it'll be awesome. +1
Jaak 242	Posted - 2011.06.23 11:45:00 - [55] I think many of the features released in Incarna to entertain the simple minded should have been saved for later, and the time spent on fixing existing issues. CCP does seem to be headed somewhere, but I have no idea where. I hope they are heading for a full immersion (without movable characters or mirrors) 'life in space' simulation. Since this is the only MMORPG I've ever played, and there is a remote chance they are headed for full immersion, I'll stay for a while.
Ketria Saine Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2011.06.23 12:57:00 - [56] A lot has happened over the last couple of days, and although I have posted earlier today about my concerns about EVE and CCP, quitting now would just seem like a knee-jerk reaction. I recently paid up for the year anyway, and I'll be damned if I'm wasting all that money by not playing. There are issues with CQ and the NEX that really need addressing, in my opinion, but CCP have put their hands up before when things have gone wrong. My faith in them has been a little dented, but not destroyed. I still love EVE, and have no intention of quitting. Yet. So it's an X from me. Fly safe.
b1zz	Posted - 2011.06.23 13:54:00 - [57] X Day after patch is always the same: so many drama queens.
Eskia Atram	Posted - 2011.06.23 14:45:00 - [58] X I made my first (and possibly only) post on this forum just to support the OP. I won't cancel my sub, I love CQ and I'm looking forward to what Incarna will be in the future. Originally by: Gilat Sumat Instead of X'ing up, can I give you and CCP the Finger I've been browsing the forums for just a few weeks now, and already I'm so fed up with most of the people posting in it. I demand a great cleansing to get rid of all the trolls and haters in this forum, making it a place for grown up people discussing valid opinions in a civilized manner, like it should be. Yes, I know this is the internet, but it is possible, I've seen it elsewhere.
ThirdEyeBlenny	Posted - 2011.06.23 14:47:00 - [59] X - Cancel Eve? What???
Katra Novac	Posted - 2011.06.23 14:50:00 - [60] Posting just cancelled my sub in a thread about not cancelling subs. Guess that's a no, op.

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