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Ripley Nostromo	Posted - 2011.06.23 16:25:00 - [31] I've bought over 140 GTC's to trade for ISK in the last 2 1/2 years ($4900.00). CCP loves me... Flame on lolololol...
Cataca	Posted - 2011.06.23 16:26:00 - [32] Originally by: Bootleg Jack subtract freeloading vets who buy plex with the isk and don't actually pay their way. So, you think they are actually playing for free? What is the logic there exactly again? Where does ccp lose money? I would be really interested in your obviously highly intelligent insight on the matter.
Nephilius Caldari Pillage and Plunder Salvage Co.	Posted - 2011.06.23 18:39:00 - [33] Originally by: FunzzeR Originally by: Reilly Duvolle Originally by: Predator Nyx You wanna do something productive instead of ***** about it like a 13 year old girl? What do you have against 13 year old girls? Wow. I did lol though. I digress. Just for clarity, how is name calling any less infantile than being a "crybaby" over a change that is so backwards it isn't even funny? Let me lay it out for you...once upon a time, the MMO Eve Online was intelligent and unique. It had what no one else had, space combat and such an open way of doing things that it stood tall amongst its competitors, even with a fairly small playerbase. Want to attack some random dude? Go for it! He doesn't need to be flagged for you to do so. You can build your own ships, ammo, modules, you can take them from others. You can grind, ransom, pew, and jeez, the list went on and on and on. The first year and a half I played, God, what an age of wonder. I had wished that I had subbed sooner. Eve was THE game for the elite and intelligent player who wanted more than running through a forest and hacking up (insert random monster here). Now here we are today. Less emphasis on space combat from the devs, more walking around. Nerf anything good, and leave the broken things broken. People call Incarna progress, I call it misdirection. It's the same as a shoplifter waving his hand puppet around while pocketing snickers bars and dirty magazines. As far as Eve is concerned, it is not progress at all, but rather sidestepping a broken vase. You know its there, but you refuse to sweep it up. I can give you two or three things that could be called progress in what was once the unique game called Eve. 1 - Jovian Space. 2 - Reopen the New Eden Gate. 3 - Imperial expansions. Three in five minutes, and they keep the heart and soul of the game pure, while adding new content and things to do. This CQ and ambulation is ultimately all smoke and mirrors. How long before you are playing a bastardized version of CoD and WoW? Find 12 Caldari business memos and return to your agent. Think it won't happen? Ha. How about some pseudo-FPS in a station? It's on the way. We might as well just call Eve for what it is, World of Evecraft, or maybe Call of Eve, or maybe we'll just amalgamate it and call it Call of Evecraft. Don't think it's coming? Give it a year or two, it's coming down the pipe. This is what theorists call a logical progression of events. The microtransaction thing also has the potential for some very bad mojo down the road, but MTs are just the way things go now in MMOs. It's a trend, and thus the natural progression as well. But if I am crying, it's not because I'm throwing a temper tantrum, it's because the game I once loved with so much of my heart and soul is finally being taken down a road that I can't really follow. I can play WoW if I want, there's my ambulation and all that. Want to shoot something? I have Black Ops and SOCOM 4. Eve was a game that many games tried to imitate in an effort to get money and subs. Now Eve is the one imitating, trying to be something it's not. What was once intelligent, unique, and honestly rather elite has now become just another MMO in a long line of MMOs that no longer truly matter. Yeah, it'll be around for awhile yet. But it's essence and soul will be diluted and tainted. This is why I will probably quit. Not because its hard, or because I don't get it, but because it's not what it once was. It's not truly Eve, the premier space simulation, open sandbox game. Now it's about dressing up like the monopoly guy and putting your wallet to the test. It's a bad punchline now.
Xyla Vulchanus Amarr Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2011.06.23 18:45:00 - [34] Originally by: Predator Nyx Edited by: Predator Nyx on 23/06/2011 15:44:10 To all the bitter vets / crybabies who would be content playing EVE exactly as it was at Apocrypha for the rest of their lives: Yes, you've nailed it totally. Everyone on here is complaining because they want Eve to be exactly the same as Apocrypha. Yes, that's it. You utter fool.
Xyla Vulchanus Amarr Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2011.06.23 18:51:00 - [35] Originally by: Nephilius What was once intelligent, unique, and honestly rather elite has now become just another MMO in a long line of MMOs that no longer truly matter. Yeah, it'll be around for awhile yet. But it's essence and soul will be diluted and tainted. This is why I will probably quit. Not because its hard, or because I don't get it, but because it's not what it once was. It's not truly Eve, the premier space simulation, open sandbox game. Now it's about dressing up like the monopoly guy and putting your wallet to the test. It's a bad punchline now. Yeah, it's sad. I've been calling the game World of Evecraft for a while now. How long before we can buy special pets for our characters to walk around with. Perhaps a Murloc...
Foralai Altrus	Posted - 2011.06.23 18:54:00 - [36] Originally by: Xyla Vulchanus Originally by: Nephilius What was once intelligent, unique, and honestly rather elite has now become just another MMO in a long line of MMOs that no longer truly matter. Yeah, it'll be around for awhile yet. But it's essence and soul will be diluted and tainted. This is why I will probably quit. Not because its hard, or because I don't get it, but because it's not what it once was. It's not truly Eve, the premier space simulation, open sandbox game. Now it's about dressing up like the monopoly guy and putting your wallet to the test. It's a bad punchline now. Yeah, it's sad. I've been calling the game World of Evecraft for a while now. How long before we can buy special pets for our characters to walk around with. Perhaps a Murloc... First they would have to optimize the code on the graphics engine not to be so buggy with one avatar walking... If it's pegging out cpus and graphics cards now imagine what will happen when it's got to render more than one avatar in stations. Much less a complex pet.
Ezra Vouland Lords 0f Justice Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2011.06.23 18:56:00 - [37] People from Apocrypha are vets? Lol, new kids They call me trash... TrashGUY
Falcus Aurelius	Posted - 2011.06.23 18:58:00 - [38] Originally by: Predator Nyx Edited by: Predator Nyx on 23/06/2011 15:44:10 To all the bitter vets / crybabies who would be content playing EVE exactly as it was at Apocrypha for the rest of their lives: No one likes you. No one will miss you when you are gone. You don't like CCP growing the game and it's audience, thus bringing in more noob targets for you? Too bad. You don't like the OPTIONAL cash shop? Tough. You wanna do something productive instead of ***** about it like a 13 year old girl? Cancel your sub. If you really feel like your opinions reflect the majority of the EVE population, then this will grab CCP's attention.... I love Incarna and the direction EVE is going in and welcome the new players it will bring with open arms and turrets and gatecamps at the ready! So sorry you won't be here to be a part of that ;) Would be interesting if we could find someone that's not an alt or complete scrub who shared your perspective...troll on.
Lotty Granat Super Batungwaa Ninja Warriors	Posted - 2011.06.23 19:01:00 - [39] Originally by: Aik Khan I am sick of hearing all these people complaining and crying about something that doesnt impact on the core gameplay at all! They are, as you said, wanting Eve to never change and stay stuck in the past and act all elitist over their clunky old game. You're kinda missing the point. The vet's don't want the game to stay the same they want dev time invested in changing it - the last 2 major updates have given us no new features really. Incursions are mostly a PvE expereince using existing mechanics (although you could say it at least introduced a new ship) and incarna just made it dificult to access the active ship's cargo or see what I'm undocking in (I turned the quaters of after a 5 min walk around). I don't PvP zoomed in on my ship so havn't noticed the turret effects at all. Eve is a spaceship game, most of the recent updates have not involved much spaceship or game mechanic development. The realistic new characters just make the ships look clunky and are more about DUST development than EvE as it's a people moving about game. Personally I'm waiting for the Sims online to release some internet spaceship pew pew then I'll be off ;-)
Leeroy McJenkins GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.06.23 19:01:00 - [40] Originally by: Predator Nyx Originally by: Aik Khan Thank you OP I agree with you totally! I am sick of hearing all these people complaining and crying about something that doesnt impact on the core gameplay at all! They are, as you said, wanting Eve to never change and stay stuck in the past and act all elitist over their clunky old game. I am glad CCP are moving forward in this way and hopefully it will weed out all these cry babies and bring in some new blood. Heres to Incarna!! My thoughts exactly! Even if they prefer to never use station environments, can they at least not see all the entertainment that will ensue once we have more new players? I can't wait to personally teach them the basics of PVP in a little series I will be calling "Low sec and you: Why you shouldn't be on autopilot." Lol XD I can't wait until we have so many new members that we will literally hot drop every low sec gate camp in existence. Please tell me you are eager for this too? Originally by: Leeroy McJenkins There is no real pvp in EVE, there is only winning or losing and then feeling :smug: about winning or sore about losing. There is nothing wrong with this arrangement.
Zemkhoff	Posted - 2011.06.23 19:15:00 - [41] Edited by: Zemkhoff on 23/06/2011 19:16:10 I think it's time for me to point out what kind of terrible knuckle dragging mouth breathers inhabitant these forums Quote: To all the bitter vets / crybabies who would be content playing EVE exactly as it was at Apocrypha for the rest of their lives: im p. sure it's changed a bit since apocrypha y0 Quote: Come now, if the bitter vets of EVE ran RL governments, we would never have passed the bill of rights and would still be driving around in horse drawn carriages nice post m8 Quote: Then stop hanging around the forum and get a life. Buh-bye Mr Epeen signs his posts, uses "buh-bye" Quote: B-b-but there are barbie dolls in my sandbox! Ew ew ew ew cooties! Next thing you know, there will be girls here! This is a no-girls-allowed club, and we play space pirates! Mooooooooooom! yo funny post bro Quote: Thank you OP I agree with you totally! I am sick of hearing all these people complaining and crying about something that doesnt impact on the core gameplay at all! They are, as you said, wanting Eve to never change and stay stuck in the past and act all elitist over their clunky old game. I am glad CCP are moving forward in this way and hopefully it will weed out all these cry babies and bring in some new blood. Heres to Incarna!! n1 m8 Quote: hi op, sorry you have the IQ of a 2 year old =( yeah you're funny too Quote: My thoughts exactly! Even if they prefer to never use station environments, can they at least not see all the entertainment that will ensue once we have more new players? I can't wait to personally teach them the basics of PVP in a little series I will be calling "Low sec and you: Why you shouldn't be on autopilot." Lol XD ye lol let's do sum pvp lessonz Lol XD :D :D :D
Jennifer Nardieu	Posted - 2011.06.23 19:19:00 - [42] Originally by: Xyla Vulchanus Originally by: Nephilius What was once intelligent, unique, and honestly rather elite has now become just another MMO in a long line of MMOs that no longer truly matter. Yeah, it'll be around for awhile yet. But it's essence and soul will be diluted and tainted. This is why I will probably quit. Not because its hard, or because I don't get it, but because it's not what it once was. It's not truly Eve, the premier space simulation, open sandbox game. Now it's about dressing up like the monopoly guy and putting your wallet to the test. It's a bad punchline now. Yeah, it's sad. I've been calling the game World of Evecraft for a while now. How long before we can buy special pets for our characters to walk around with. Perhaps a Murloc... Given that "subscription 2.0" where you could buy stuff in eve was an april fools joke in 2008 And 2011's april fools was "mounts and pets" I'd say 2013.
Duran Sarn	Posted - 2011.06.23 19:19:00 - [43] Can I send CCP all of my money without actually logging on in game? This would speed things up a lot. I'd actually do this because I'm ******ed and love being milked for my money MOAR AUR ITEMS SPECIAL AUR SHIPS AND AUR MODULES SO THE NON-VANITY PEASANTS DONT HAVE ANY CHANCE WHEN I PULL OUT MOMMY'S CREDIT CARD DEAL WITH IT HATERS GONNA HATE
FeralShadow NME1	Posted - 2011.06.23 19:26:00 - [44] It's pretty funny. Look at all the people whining on the forums. Then look at all the people playing Eve Online currently. Numbers speak for themselves imho. People can complain all they want, but the forums have never represented the majority in the past, and the forums certainly don't now. _______________________________________________ "If you want to taste the ground, feel free to attack." - Kenshin Himura
Terianna Eri Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn	Posted - 2011.06.23 19:28:00 - [45] Congratulations. You are CCP's ideal customer. A blind sheep that will defend them to the end, even when they freely and openly admit they want to exploit YOUR attachment to the game for more money. ________________
Victriferusianus	Posted - 2011.06.23 19:40:00 - [46] I don't get the vanity shop hate. You don't have to buy anything from it. The stuff you can buy from vanity shop doesn't give you any kind of advantage. So what is the problem? If you don't like it, don't buy anything. And I think the prices are right and could actually be even higher. Even a monocle doesn't cost that much ISK. It's pocket money for many players. Getting a monocle is a geat way to brag about your ingame wealth if you want to do that and fits the atmosphere of EVE perfectly. It's not a status symbol if it's cheap. If you have to ask or whine about the price, you can't afford it. You are not part of the elite. That is the message vanity items should give. Buying vanity items for real world cash is of course something completly different.
Qual Gallente Cornexant Research	Posted - 2011.06.23 19:49:00 - [47] Originally by: FeralShadow It's pretty funny. Look at all the people whining on the forums. Then look at all the people playing Eve Online currently. Numbers speak for themselves imho. People can complain all they want, but the forums have never represented the majority in the past, and the forums certainly don't now. This really. And yeah, I am a resubed old timer. I love how CCP throwing around ideas in an INTERNAL message suddenly became offcial thier locked in agenda. How stupid can the EvE crybaby mob be? "The short version: Qual is right." -Papa Smurf
Creepy Goat Collateral.	Posted - 2011.06.23 19:49:00 - [48] Originally by: Victriferusianus I don't get the vanity shop hate. You don't have to buy anything from it. The stuff you can buy from vanity shop doesn't give you any kind of advantage. So what is the problem? If you don't like it, don't buy anything. You must have missed the bit where CCP said they want to sell advantages and shortcuts via the NEX shop. Like special ammo, ships, mods, POS, faction standings, BPs etc etc. ----
LIOZTH Caldari Divide By Zero Emergent Dawn	Posted - 2011.06.23 19:51:00 - [49] Originally by: Predator Nyx Blah... Quit ALT posting and tell us how you are really feeling
Rui Morin	Posted - 2011.06.23 19:53:00 - [50] Originally by: Ripley Nostromo I've bought over 140 GTC's to trade for ISK in the last 2 1/2 years ($4900.00). CCP loves me... Flame on lolololol... No they don't but they'll happily take your cash.

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