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Istyn
Tactical Knightmare Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:20:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
They just have to read like one post and they have the players perspective. Complaining about 'extremely childish antics' is a bit rich considering CCP have been treating their fanbase as children for ages with no real reason other than a corporate culture of what seems to be contempt for your customers, so we may as well act like children as you have proven time and time again you do not listen when people are reasonable.
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Mamayev Kurgan
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:20:00 -
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Riiight .. this is the problem .. the playerbase just up and decided to burn down the forums ...
You know .. an *ounce* of self-awarenes from CCP would be refreshing .. but I see that is not possible.
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Reed Tiburon
Caldari Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:21:00 -
[63]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
If your higher-ups don't get it yet, we're ****ed. Me and you both. ---
R.I.P.
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Vernex
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:21:00 -
[64]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
You've got a 5000+ reply post with nearly half a million views that I imagine contains enough feedback about the player's "perspective". CCP's lack of a coherent response is the only "waste of time" I see.
Cheers.
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Zagam
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:22:00 -
[65]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
/agree.
Of course, the war-deccing will continue, and we all know that will likely start ending in this ---------.oOo.---------- Chaos, Madness, and Destruction. My work here is done. |
Arklan1
Dunedain Rangers
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:22:00 -
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Edited by: Arklan1 on 24/06/2011 18:23:32
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
let me get this straight - your bosses made decision and comments which ****ed off the forums, then made further decisions to not talk to us, pouring fuel on a fire. you respond in this thread, saying a devblog is coming, and get a bunch of postive responses andthank yous. THEN, you respond again, basically telling us to **** off? we pay the living of you and the entire company you work for. we are your GOD, and you, and your bosses, treat us like dirt. what the hell do you expect us to do, sit quietly?
edited for spelling
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Eolithic WithaTwist
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:22:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Blonda Mea
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
How much more do you need to gather. has the penny not dropped yet? Do you need a few more clues?
^This. When 99 out every 100 threads on the forums are raging at the direction eve is taking, I would like to think CCP could take a hint. But maybe I'm wrong... -------------------------------------------
We Are Internet Spaceship Pilots.
We do not forgive, we do not forget. |
Leisen
Caldari Interrobang Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:23:00 -
[68]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
I totally agree. Of course it's entirely the fault of CCP, and now that you've gotten yourselves into this situation, perhaps try doing something to help. You know, like release a statement, and a plan. Preferably one that we like. That would probably be good for your community, and job.
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Xavier Novae
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:23:00 -
[69]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
The time spent writing your post could have been used to get us an update. Kthxbye.
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Hiram Alexander
Caldari The Night Crew
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:23:00 -
[70]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
I genuinely don't "get" what you're on about here... are you being made to turn all the images into links, or something..? Otherwise, your wardeck comment is lost on me.
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Terianna Eri
Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:23:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
Fallout, I think you're great and all, but if you think the level of anger and disappointment being voiced by your playerbase is an overreaction then I really don't know what to tell you. Also keep in mind that this only became an issue yesterday and that some - probably many - people don't read the forums each day.
I do appreciate your work in getting the higher-ups to see just how boneheaded this direction is, and hope they listen. I've already cancelled my accounts but I do like EVE and would very gladly resub if I found a good reason to. ________________
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Avensys
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:23:00 -
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Edited by: Avensys on 24/06/2011 18:29:31
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
hmm... for a moment you had me there - until I realized that these "extremely childish antics" did get us a response faster than a 170 page wall of text.
edit: if you can't do your job, go your superiors and tell them. Maybe that will make them to think, if it doesn't you have my sympathies.
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Ivan Joukov
Gallente Soviet System
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
Lol, I love that ♥ :)
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Meatay
Night Theifs
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:24:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Vernex
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
You've got a 5000+ reply post with nearly half a million views that I imagine contains enough feedback about the player's "perspective". CCP's lack of a coherent response is the only "waste of time" I see.
Cheers.
this ----------------------------------------------
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Faith Clothos
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:24:00 -
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Unfortunately, reality does not support that shutting up is the best way to make discontent heard.
Its only the best way for you to sweep it under the rug.
Its been how many days without blue bars or explanations? The views are clearly stated, civilly in a number of threads.
The answer? Silence.
http://eve.beyondreality.se/NeXCQResponse.html#greed
Read that.
Protip: We want an answer to the big yellow question. A nice one that can go all over the internet, news sites, etc. One that will shape the perception of CCP and its place in the industry for years, or perhaps ever.
Too much to ask?
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Turix
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:24:00 -
[76]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
While I agree that constant spam and abuse doesn't solve problems; you can't help to think why its happening?
CCP has pulled what the community sees as a **** move and then you've throw a hand full of PR posts at them and then ignored everything else. Would it hurt to say update the Eve Online twitter feed, or keep a stickied, locked post at the top of the forum to keep people apprised of the situation? That way people would feel less inclined to mindlessly spam and might actually discuss specific issues, discussions that you could them constructively use and pass up to your superiors. __________________________
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News Group
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
IMO, a draft blog was written before Incarna was released. They knew they would face a **** storm and were well prepared. They are waiting for the intense rage to abate a bit before they make some token move and offer more apologies. What they will not do is change anything to what they see as their future cash cow, i.e. WT. This game will become even more a pay to win game.
Hint: When the first responder is the Public Relations guy you know your being gamed.
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Gwenywell Shumuku
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:25:00 -
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Edited by: Gwenywell Shumuku on 24/06/2011 18:25:30
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
Sry, but no. WE are not a WASTE of your time. Yes, we are breathing DOWN YOUR NECK right now, and many just have to write something, anything, beeing funny, or childisch, or even just rude.
This is not a short flick, this situation had a buildup, and the newsletter pushed it over the top. Now, DEAL WITH IT.
Its not the communities fault, ALWAYS remember that.
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Scarlett Anstian
Minmatar DPB Corporation
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:25:00 -
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Dont try and act like you would have given us proper feedback if you werent replying on the forums. What feedback have you given other then "they are writing it now". Yeah it must be tough on you, we the customers are very naughty. Very naughty indeed >.>
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Leisen
Caldari Interrobang Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:25:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Vernex
Originally by: CCP Fallout
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
You've got a 5000+ reply post with nearly half a million views that I imagine contains enough feedback about the player's "perspective". CCP's lack of a coherent response is the only "waste of time" I see.
Cheers.
This.
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T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:26:00 -
[81]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
Please navigate your way to this thread: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1395464 You will find it useful, although the results haven't been updated since I last brought this data to CCP.
We did warn the company how the playerbase was going to react to MTs and it is a pitty that things have unfolded as they have as its going to now make your job even harder and I really feel for those that have to clean up this mess.
I hope you have your thick skin on and goodluck. -T'amber
Microtransactions? Click here and vote Yes, No or Vanity only
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Isis Soryu
Caldari Universitas Interimo Research
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:26:00 -
[82]
Edited by: Isis Soryu on 24/06/2011 18:26:20
Originally by: Meatay
Originally by: Vernex
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
You've got a 5000+ reply post with nearly half a million views that I imagine contains enough feedback about the player's "perspective". CCP's lack of a coherent response is the only "waste of time" I see.
Cheers.
this
Best reply in this thread. You people should have kept us updated in the main threadnaught from the start. You've only yourselves to blame for the spread of rage.
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Zanetia
Gallente The Interstellar Lunatic Asylum
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
Because the gigantic threadnaught with (currently) 5209 replies isn't enough feedback or perspective for you? Really?
You let us stew for 24 hours yesterday before bothering to respond and you've done more or less the same today (too busy preparing your interview for Massivly I imagine) and now you're complaining there's anarchy on the forums?
ANSWER THE ****ING QUESTIONS WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR ALMOST 48 HOURS THEN!
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Captain Mastiff
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
If it stops then it will be just brushed under the carpet.
I think the consistent raging and antics that has been happening as shown the community how much outrage there is. Think about the amount of players that don't even delve into the forums who play the game that are no doubt raging inside with the possibility of paying a subscription game and then paying to pay that subscription game. What's the point?
The lack of communication is only angering the community more, CCP Pann or whoever it was didn't do much to resolve or even help the situation with their post. All that has happened is you have made a threadnaught that will no doubt not die down for some time.
Perhaps you guys need to hire someone like Max Clifford, he can do a few miracles sometimes.
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Panda Name
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:29:00 -
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"guys could you stop spreading the fire? it's not our fault we didn't do anything about it :("
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Ranger 1
Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: LarcatOfZion
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
Like what? Can't you just ignore the posts?
Idiot. Part of his job right now is NOT ignoring posts.
In fact that is one of the major issues on the table right now, ignoring customer feedback on issues.
Nonsensical written diarrhea spewed out for not other purpose than to look cute while jumping on the hate bandwagon isn't only a pain is his ass, it's a pain in everyone elses as well.
Stroking your epeen is fine, just not right now.
STFU and let the decks clear enough for some meaningful dialogue to occur. ===== The world will not end in 2012, however there will be a serious nerf to Planetary Interaction. |
KamikazeBrAzIl
Vera Cruz Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:30:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Vernex
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
You've got a 5000+ reply post with nearly half a million views that I imagine contains enough feedback about the player's "perspective". CCP's lack of a coherent response is the only "waste of time" I see.
Cheers.
This!
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Eolithic WithaTwist
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Mastiff
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
If it stops then it will be just brushed under the carpet.
I think the consistent raging and antics that has been happening as shown the community how much outrage there is. Think about the amount of players that don't even delve into the forums who play the game that are no doubt raging inside with the possibility of paying a subscription game and then paying to pay that subscription game. What's the point?
The lack of communication is only angering the community more, CCP Pann or whoever it was didn't do much to resolve or even help the situation with their post. All that has happened is you have made a threadnaught that will no doubt not die down for some time.
Perhaps you guys need to hire someone like Max Clifford, he can do a few miracles sometimes.
CCP has been perfectly the art of brushing things they don't want to deal with under the carpet since 2003. -------------------------------------------
We Are Internet Spaceship Pilots.
We do not forgive, we do not forget. |
Major Stallion
The Dark Horses.
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
will we have it within the next :18months:? |
BeanBagKing
Terra Incognita Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:32:00 -
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Edited by: BeanBagKing on 24/06/2011 18:33:05
Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
I'm glad it's being worked on, I think most players assumptions after CCP Penns post was that CCP employees would at least start responding. It's now getting towards the end of the working day there as I understand it. I really hope that this blog won't be posted, and then everyone goes home for the night leaving the players to silence and another 150 page thread.
I'm sure you guys are putting in a lot of overtime on this, thanks for trying to make our voices heard. On behalf of all the players using childish antics and threats, I'm sorry. It seems CCP doesn't pay attention sometimes unless there is a lot of outrage, but it gets taken to far by many people. Don't get me wrong, I think players have a right to be outraged by all of this, but some forget it's a game (sorry other players, I've seen some lives threatened here and there, not cool).
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