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Zolacar
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:04:00 -
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Is the official statement from CCP still going to come today?
If you do not know, can you use that phone sitting on the desk in front of you and find out plz!
TY! 
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Scarlett Anstian
Minmatar DPB Corporation
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:05:00 -
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Yes do something useful please 
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Erichan
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:05:00 -
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Edited by: Erichan on 24/06/2011 18:05:52 http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1536729&page=16pm and nothing...
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Eolithic WithaTwist
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:06:00 -
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Eve community declares war on CCP Failout? -------------------------------------------
We Are Internet Spaceship Pilots.
We do not forgive, we do not forget. |

Apollo Gabriel
Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels Etherium Cartel
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: Eolithic WithaTwist Eve community declares war on CCP Failout?
We're all ****ed, I've been here almost non stop for 72 hours posting, let's not turn a REAL rant and discussion into trivial ****.
AG
***** Signature may appear without warning! ***** Please do not feed the trolls, it builds dependency.
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Azureusi
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:08:00 -
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They'll probably leave it until the last moment and then all clock off for the weekend, just to avoid the fallout.
Seriously, it wouldn't surprise me.
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Karia Sur
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:09:00 -
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I can only remember on 1 previous occasion when Fallout used that phone and the ****storm lasted for 2 weeks........and all because he forgot to ask for extra pepperoni on 1 of the order.
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CCP Fallout

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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:09:00 -
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My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
Fallout Associate Community Manager CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact us |
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Tinilya
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
Win.
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Aineko Macx
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:10:00 -
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It's working! ________________________ CCP: Where fixing bugs is a luxury, not an obligation. |
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Zolacar
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
OK, thank you for responding!
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Atticus Fynch
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
Now THAT is funny.  ----- CCP exhibits an alcoholic personality...please read |

Lilith Velkor
Minmatar Heretic Army B A N E
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: Eolithic WithaTwist Eve community declares war on CCP Failout?
As funny as all this forum shenanigans is, I think it wouldnt be the worst idea for everyone to just calm the **** down a bit.
They will give their statement once its ready, and we are waiting for something substantial.
I agree it better be worth the waiting, but being childish doesnt speed anything up.
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xynix
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
^^ at least you have not lost your sense of humor
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Nathan Rosenhal
Amarr Arrakis Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
+1 ;-)
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Scarlett Anstian
Minmatar DPB Corporation
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
+1
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators Chubby Chuppers Chubba Chups
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
LOL (o)
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Erichk Knaar
Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.

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dgastuffz
Caldari Hell's Revenge
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
so it is our fault wtf????
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Mintala Arana
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
         
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Tutskii
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
Epic
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YarrMama
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
Post that in the mega thread next door and some of the heat might die down. Most are just asking for info.
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Apollo Gabriel
Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels Etherium Cartel
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
dude some days it pays to call in sick, I don't envy the headache you'll have when you wake up tomorrow.
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Xia Long
Two Brothers Mining Corp. R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:12:00 -
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lol nice one Fallout, still the question remains, we were told today we might have a blog/answer still nothing? i know this might be hard to write down (really?) , but is not like the time was missing over 48hrs since incarna release
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Zagam
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
+1. Total Win. ---------.oOo.---------- Chaos, Madness, and Destruction. My work here is done. |

Sarina Berghil
Minmatar New Zion Judge Advocate Yulai Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
Humour level 5, nice to see someone still has it :)
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ALLYOURMONEY BELONGTOUS
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
NOW THIS IS FUNNY!!!!
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StevieRay Vaughn
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
Now thats funny right there !! I dont care Who you are 
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ITTigerClawIK
Amarr Galactic Rangers Galactic-Rangers
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
Thanks Fallout you have cheered me up immensly now ^_^
Sig space reclaimed in the name of me -courtesy of Tiggy ([email protected]) |

Volkon
Caldari Eternal Night Dynamics
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
Haha, i lol'd hard when i read this reply... ive been sat over the forums for 3+hrs now...SO MUCH TO READ!
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Solstice Project
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
*LOL*
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Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar The Python Cartel. The Defenders of Pen Island
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:13:00 -
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Shock and awe ftw 
Originally by: Xenuria
I don't need a LICENSE to take a photoshooped image and lay it on top of the game client and make pretend my character is naked.
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Maziy
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:15:00 -
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LOL SO FUNNY!
I love how easy it is to dazzle and deflect Eve E-Warrior Forum Rage.
Let's make a couple more self-deprecating comments CCP. With enough of it, you might not even have to apologize for being scummy liars.
Love you.
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Troll Bridgington
Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:15:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
This made me smile.
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CCP Fallout

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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
Fallout Associate Community Manager CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact us |
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Abdiel Kavash
Caldari Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
"Being worked on" as in Ambulation, TIII frigates, supercap rebalance, POS fixes, etc, etc, etc? ---
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
If it takes that long to write a blog in response to the rage demanding an honest, open explanation, I think I can safely say it will be meaningless. --------------------- Countdown to sub running out: 9 days. |

Strrog
Caldari Zero Excavations
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:17:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
You also forgot to mention banning and locking of civil threads.
CCP security rating has been:
***tak taaak tak tak takk bzzz bzzzz***
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Isis Soryu
Caldari Universitas Interimo Research
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:17:00 -
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Edited by: Isis Soryu on 24/06/2011 18:17:52
Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
You really should have put this in the right thread.
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Enna Shendara
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:18:00 -
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Originally by: Lilith Velkor
As funny as all this forum shenanigans is, I think it wouldnt be the worst idea for everyone to just calm the **** down a bit.
I strongly disagree. The evidence does not support that calming down a bit gets more results then keeping the rage on. I think its very important that we show CCP just how unhappy we are. This isn't just about bad patches any more, this is about lying to your subscribers faces, and taking their money under false pretenses, and we need to show it.
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Joxxy
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:18:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
At least you can look at face of sh*t storm with a broad smile and make jokes ... After all - sticks and stones can break your bones but sh*t cant hurt you ...
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T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:18:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
Microtransactions? Click here and vote Yes, No or Vanity only
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Olvel
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:18:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
Agreed.
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Apollo Gabriel
Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels Etherium Cartel
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:19:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
QFT
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LarcatOfZion
Red Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:19:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
Like what? Can't you just ignore the posts?
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VicturusTeSaluto
Metafarmers MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:19:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
This is the problem. If you have criticism CCP just says it is trolling, spam, childish etc! They just don't care what the playerbase thinks and will do what they want.
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Panda Name
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:19:00 -
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i'd believe you if your company actually had a "track record" of listening to us. but for now, i'll hold off my legions until the failblog.
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Maul555
Amarr Reliables Inc BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:19:00 -
[49]
Ok... I lol'd
The EVE Personality Test
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Scortched Merc
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:19:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
You mad bro?
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Velani Askiras
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:19:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
Agreed
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Tutskii
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:19:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
Ban everyone! In fact, banning from the game and refunding might be a good way to do things, less upset customers, less upset customers posting, right?
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Blonda Mea
Muppet Ninja's
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:19:00 -
[53]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
How much more do you need to gather. has the penny not dropped yet? Do you need a few more clues?
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Ronaldo Carrare
RR Financial Services
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:20:00 -
[54]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
Well you ***gots wanted to ignore us altogether until we stopped posting. And now you're saying we post too much? What kind of dumb are you?
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Kozmic
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:20:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout
Really, this needs to stop.
That is what we are saying.
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NosubstanceHere
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:20:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
I damn near ****ed myself laughing XD.
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Maziy
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:20:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
Dude, you do NOT need further feedback.
What more feedback could you possibly need?
In one thread.... just one.... every single issue has been discussed over and over and over and over.
This is not about you.
This is about your CEO humbling himself long enough to react as a responsible and successful CEO should.
Even if it's only for a fleeting moment.
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Scarlett Anstian
Minmatar DPB Corporation
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:20:00 -
[58]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
Thats more like it!
-1
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Ahrman Vanaheim
Caldari Chimaera Combine Novus Dominatum
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:20:00 -
[59]
Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
+ 1 (you need to put this next door)
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Mag Theron
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:20:00 -
[60]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
I agree, but I think many people will believe it is working, because now they're seeing blue bars in the forum, something that has been seriously lacking for the past 11 hours or so...
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Istyn
Tactical Knightmare Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:20:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
They just have to read like one post and they have the players perspective. Complaining about 'extremely childish antics' is a bit rich considering CCP have been treating their fanbase as children for ages with no real reason other than a corporate culture of what seems to be contempt for your customers, so we may as well act like children as you have proven time and time again you do not listen when people are reasonable.
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Mamayev Kurgan
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:20:00 -
[62]
Riiight .. this is the problem .. the playerbase just up and decided to burn down the forums ...
You know .. an *ounce* of self-awarenes from CCP would be refreshing .. but I see that is not possible.
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Reed Tiburon
Caldari Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:21:00 -
[63]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
If your higher-ups don't get it yet, we're ****ed. Me and you both. ---
R.I.P.
EVE ONLINE [img]ht |

Vernex
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:21:00 -
[64]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
You've got a 5000+ reply post with nearly half a million views that I imagine contains enough feedback about the player's "perspective". CCP's lack of a coherent response is the only "waste of time" I see.
Cheers.
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Zagam
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:22:00 -
[65]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
/agree.
Of course, the war-deccing will continue, and we all know that will likely start ending in this ---------.oOo.---------- Chaos, Madness, and Destruction. My work here is done. |

Arklan1
Dunedain Rangers
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:22:00 -
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Edited by: Arklan1 on 24/06/2011 18:23:32
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
let me get this straight - your bosses made decision and comments which ****ed off the forums, then made further decisions to not talk to us, pouring fuel on a fire. you respond in this thread, saying a devblog is coming, and get a bunch of postive responses andthank yous. THEN, you respond again, basically telling us to **** off? we pay the living of you and the entire company you work for. we are your GOD, and you, and your bosses, treat us like dirt. what the hell do you expect us to do, sit quietly?
edited for spelling
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Eolithic WithaTwist
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:22:00 -
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Originally by: Blonda Mea
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
How much more do you need to gather. has the penny not dropped yet? Do you need a few more clues?
^This. When 99 out every 100 threads on the forums are raging at the direction eve is taking, I would like to think CCP could take a hint. But maybe I'm wrong... -------------------------------------------
We Are Internet Spaceship Pilots.
We do not forgive, we do not forget. |

Leisen
Caldari Interrobang Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:23:00 -
[68]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
I totally agree. Of course it's entirely the fault of CCP, and now that you've gotten yourselves into this situation, perhaps try doing something to help. You know, like release a statement, and a plan. Preferably one that we like. That would probably be good for your community, and job.
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Xavier Novae
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:23:00 -
[69]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
The time spent writing your post could have been used to get us an update. Kthxbye.
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Hiram Alexander
Caldari The Night Crew
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:23:00 -
[70]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
I genuinely don't "get" what you're on about here... are you being made to turn all the images into links, or something..? Otherwise, your wardeck comment is lost on me.
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Terianna Eri
Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:23:00 -
[71]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
Fallout, I think you're great and all, but if you think the level of anger and disappointment being voiced by your playerbase is an overreaction then I really don't know what to tell you. Also keep in mind that this only became an issue yesterday and that some - probably many - people don't read the forums each day.
I do appreciate your work in getting the higher-ups to see just how boneheaded this direction is, and hope they listen. I've already cancelled my accounts but I do like EVE and would very gladly resub if I found a good reason to. ________________
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Avensys
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:23:00 -
[72]
Edited by: Avensys on 24/06/2011 18:29:31
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
hmm... for a moment you had me there - until I realized that these "extremely childish antics" did get us a response faster than a 170 page wall of text.
edit: if you can't do your job, go your superiors and tell them. Maybe that will make them to think, if it doesn't you have my sympathies.
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Ivan Joukov
Gallente Soviet System
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:24:00 -
[73]
Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
Lol, I love that ♥ :)
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Meatay
Night Theifs
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:24:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Vernex
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
You've got a 5000+ reply post with nearly half a million views that I imagine contains enough feedback about the player's "perspective". CCP's lack of a coherent response is the only "waste of time" I see.
Cheers.
this ----------------------------------------------
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Faith Clothos
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:24:00 -
[75]
Unfortunately, reality does not support that shutting up is the best way to make discontent heard.
Its only the best way for you to sweep it under the rug.
Its been how many days without blue bars or explanations? The views are clearly stated, civilly in a number of threads.
The answer? Silence.
http://eve.beyondreality.se/NeXCQResponse.html#greed
Read that.
Protip: We want an answer to the big yellow question. A nice one that can go all over the internet, news sites, etc. One that will shape the perception of CCP and its place in the industry for years, or perhaps ever.
Too much to ask?
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Turix
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:24:00 -
[76]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
While I agree that constant spam and abuse doesn't solve problems; you can't help to think why its happening?
CCP has pulled what the community sees as a **** move and then you've throw a hand full of PR posts at them and then ignored everything else. Would it hurt to say update the Eve Online twitter feed, or keep a stickied, locked post at the top of the forum to keep people apprised of the situation? That way people would feel less inclined to mindlessly spam and might actually discuss specific issues, discussions that you could them constructively use and pass up to your superiors. __________________________
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News Group
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:25:00 -
[77]
Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
IMO, a draft blog was written before Incarna was released. They knew they would face a **** storm and were well prepared. They are waiting for the intense rage to abate a bit before they make some token move and offer more apologies. What they will not do is change anything to what they see as their future cash cow, i.e. WT. This game will become even more a pay to win game.
Hint: When the first responder is the Public Relations guy you know your being gamed.
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Gwenywell Shumuku
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:25:00 -
[78]
Edited by: Gwenywell Shumuku on 24/06/2011 18:25:30
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
Sry, but no. WE are not a WASTE of your time. Yes, we are breathing DOWN YOUR NECK right now, and many just have to write something, anything, beeing funny, or childisch, or even just rude.
This is not a short flick, this situation had a buildup, and the newsletter pushed it over the top. Now, DEAL WITH IT.
Its not the communities fault, ALWAYS remember that.
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Scarlett Anstian
Minmatar DPB Corporation
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:25:00 -
[79]
Dont try and act like you would have given us proper feedback if you werent replying on the forums. What feedback have you given other then "they are writing it now". Yeah it must be tough on you, we the customers are very naughty. Very naughty indeed >.>
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Leisen
Caldari Interrobang Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:25:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Vernex
Originally by: CCP Fallout
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
You've got a 5000+ reply post with nearly half a million views that I imagine contains enough feedback about the player's "perspective". CCP's lack of a coherent response is the only "waste of time" I see.
Cheers.
This.
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T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:26:00 -
[81]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
Please navigate your way to this thread: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1395464 You will find it useful, although the results haven't been updated since I last brought this data to CCP.
We did warn the company how the playerbase was going to react to MTs and it is a pitty that things have unfolded as they have as its going to now make your job even harder and I really feel for those that have to clean up this mess.
I hope you have your thick skin on and goodluck. -T'amber
Microtransactions? Click here and vote Yes, No or Vanity only
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Isis Soryu
Caldari Universitas Interimo Research
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:26:00 -
[82]
Edited by: Isis Soryu on 24/06/2011 18:26:20
Originally by: Meatay
Originally by: Vernex
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
You've got a 5000+ reply post with nearly half a million views that I imagine contains enough feedback about the player's "perspective". CCP's lack of a coherent response is the only "waste of time" I see.
Cheers.
this
Best reply in this thread. You people should have kept us updated in the main threadnaught from the start. You've only yourselves to blame for the spread of rage.
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Zanetia
Gallente The Interstellar Lunatic Asylum
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:28:00 -
[83]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
Because the gigantic threadnaught with (currently) 5209 replies isn't enough feedback or perspective for you? Really?
You let us stew for 24 hours yesterday before bothering to respond and you've done more or less the same today (too busy preparing your interview for Massivly I imagine) and now you're complaining there's anarchy on the forums?
ANSWER THE ****ING QUESTIONS WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR ALMOST 48 HOURS THEN!
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Captain Mastiff
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:29:00 -
[84]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
If it stops then it will be just brushed under the carpet.
I think the consistent raging and antics that has been happening as shown the community how much outrage there is. Think about the amount of players that don't even delve into the forums who play the game that are no doubt raging inside with the possibility of paying a subscription game and then paying to pay that subscription game. What's the point?
The lack of communication is only angering the community more, CCP Pann or whoever it was didn't do much to resolve or even help the situation with their post. All that has happened is you have made a threadnaught that will no doubt not die down for some time.
Perhaps you guys need to hire someone like Max Clifford, he can do a few miracles sometimes.
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Panda Name
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:29:00 -
[85]
"guys could you stop spreading the fire? it's not our fault we didn't do anything about it :("
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Ranger 1
Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:30:00 -
[86]
Originally by: LarcatOfZion
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
Like what? Can't you just ignore the posts?
Idiot. Part of his job right now is NOT ignoring posts.
In fact that is one of the major issues on the table right now, ignoring customer feedback on issues.
Nonsensical written diarrhea spewed out for not other purpose than to look cute while jumping on the hate bandwagon isn't only a pain is his ass, it's a pain in everyone elses as well.
Stroking your epeen is fine, just not right now.
STFU and let the decks clear enough for some meaningful dialogue to occur. ===== The world will not end in 2012, however there will be a serious nerf to Planetary Interaction. |

KamikazeBrAzIl
Vera Cruz Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:30:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Vernex
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
You've got a 5000+ reply post with nearly half a million views that I imagine contains enough feedback about the player's "perspective". CCP's lack of a coherent response is the only "waste of time" I see.
Cheers.
This!
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Eolithic WithaTwist
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:30:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Captain Mastiff
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
If it stops then it will be just brushed under the carpet.
I think the consistent raging and antics that has been happening as shown the community how much outrage there is. Think about the amount of players that don't even delve into the forums who play the game that are no doubt raging inside with the possibility of paying a subscription game and then paying to pay that subscription game. What's the point?
The lack of communication is only angering the community more, CCP Pann or whoever it was didn't do much to resolve or even help the situation with their post. All that has happened is you have made a threadnaught that will no doubt not die down for some time.
Perhaps you guys need to hire someone like Max Clifford, he can do a few miracles sometimes.
CCP has been perfectly the art of brushing things they don't want to deal with under the carpet since 2003. -------------------------------------------
We Are Internet Spaceship Pilots.
We do not forgive, we do not forget. |

Major Stallion
The Dark Horses.
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:30:00 -
[89]
Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
will we have it within the next :18months:? |

BeanBagKing
Terra Incognita Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:32:00 -
[90]
Edited by: BeanBagKing on 24/06/2011 18:33:05
Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
I'm glad it's being worked on, I think most players assumptions after CCP Penns post was that CCP employees would at least start responding. It's now getting towards the end of the working day there as I understand it. I really hope that this blog won't be posted, and then everyone goes home for the night leaving the players to silence and another 150 page thread.
I'm sure you guys are putting in a lot of overtime on this, thanks for trying to make our voices heard. On behalf of all the players using childish antics and threats, I'm sorry. It seems CCP doesn't pay attention sometimes unless there is a lot of outrage, but it gets taken to far by many people. Don't get me wrong, I think players have a right to be outraged by all of this, but some forget it's a game (sorry other players, I've seen some lives threatened here and there, not cool).
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Darth Dreads
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:32:00 -
[91]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
This
could be a post from any player asking you the same thing
I guess it's just a matter of karma, what goes around comes around
good luck with the press release
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Why Meeeeeh
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:32:00 -
[92]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
As you (CCP, not you personally) stated last year: "quantity over quality". Are you stating this view has changed?
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Marchocias
Snatch Victory
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:33:00 -
[93]
Edited by: Marchocias on 24/06/2011 18:33:56 I think you'll find that we pay good money not to be a waste of your time.
Seriously, your comments on here have been one step forward, ten steps back! ---- I belong to Silent Ninja (Hopefully that should cover it). |

Landlady
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:34:00 -
[94]
Originally by: CCP Fallout which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder... Really, this needs to stop.
SELECT * FROM TBL_FORUM_LIVE WHERE THREADID=1536065
That will get you the info you need, people have waited for long enough now, they are getting antsy. CCP Pann made a noble sacrifice, but apparently was pulled away from the forums.
Your best path towards keeping the forums civil would have been to keep him(or someone with a CCP tag at least, even if it had been the janitor) in that thread until your statement was ready.
Now each post silly post you lock fans the flames, I've seen this before, as did other here I am sure, on the SWG forums the night when the NGE was announced; before the end the community manager was in on it(Tiggs) and they just tossed the forums open w/o moderation for like 48 hours.
Was a fun evening, the troll hidden deep in my heart relishes re-living it again.
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Aineko Macx
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:34:00 -
[95]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere. Really, this needs to stop.
We have been giving as much feedback as possible for years. Funny that only now "the players perspective" is being shared with people higher up the ladder.
I can guarantee your frustration is nowhere near that of the betrayed players. HTFU. ________________________ CCP: Where fixing bugs is a luxury, not an obligation. |

Janus Talmash
Talmash Imports and Exports Group
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:34:00 -
[96]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
If the company you work for treats its customers like they're children who are better off "not knowing and just be told what to do when it gets there", you can expect rebellion exploding in your face.
Btw, all the "perspective" you need is reading Tippa's document. ________
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Herping yourDerp
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:34:00 -
[97]
Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
empire wardecs are a valid component in the game that may or may not cost aurum in the future you can quit your corp if you don't like it to resume your day to day activities without fear of an attack.
but in all seriousness, don't let the childishness of a few damage the points brought up about CQ, MT, the memo, ect.
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Mamayev Kurgan
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:34:00 -
[98]
I think its quite obvious that being cute won't get CCP out of this .. but 48 hours in it's apparent their quiver is empty.
That blog better be the MOTHER of all DEVBLOGS if you have any hope of quieting this storm.
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Malak Alraheem
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:35:00 -
[99]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Really, this needs to stop.
Actually, it worked quite well in Egypt.
. - I just saved a fortune on my ship insurance by switching to Incarna! Yes, you also can save $15 or more a month by cancelling your alt accounts with Incarna! Incarna, the Alt killer! |

Hornet69
Dragonian Measures
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:36:00 -
[100]
Edited by: Hornet69 on 24/06/2011 18:38:10
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
To be fair CCP Fallout, it's not a waste of your time. But the time on SiSi and the player feedback was a waste of our time. This should have been pushed up the the people higher up the ladder then. The player base if left with expressing their frustration this way because there is no other way. Apart from all stopping subscriptions until it's sorted that is. Feedback doesn't seem to work. As a player I for one don't want to have to leave a game to get a response, but the communication from CCP needs to improve.
H
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Rattus Norwegius
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:36:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Vernex
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
You've got a 5000+ reply post with nearly half a million views that I imagine contains enough feedback about the player's "perspective". CCP's lack of a coherent response is the only "waste of time" I see.
Cheers.
This.
You (CCP) do not need to write a devblog that is such a masterpiece of litterature that Shakespear would fall to his knees weeping. You only need to answer the core question with a couple of sentences. Then you can go back to writing the "Epic Devblog to end all sorrows", to be published Soon(TM).
Also, on the topic of "being constructive", stop banning people and locking threads. It is not helping. You too, can see that is not helping. And yes, it is a waste of time.
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Zondrail
Formic Hive
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:36:00 -
[102]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
Yeah... this is the player's fault, right?
And of course, maintaining ongoing communication with the community is a waste of time, too.
I'm starting to expect less and less from what we're eventually going to hear.
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Maya Firewish
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:36:00 -
[103]
Does the team also understand why they're getting all these war declarations? |

Farelle
Gallente Core Impulse Auctorita Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:37:00 -
[104]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
how hard is it to say, the community totally and utterly rejects MT and believes that CCP Soundwave should resign?
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Mark Raynor
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:38:00 -
[105]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
The problem is, it's not going to stop until we know our feedback (read: FORUM/TWITTER/BLOG RAGE) is getting heard. Catch-22 from hell, but I'm afraid that's the way it is.
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Sakura Zendragon
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:38:00 -
[106]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
The situation is escalating and getting cute with the customers will not help. I understand that things are probably tense at CCP right now and that you're getting aggravated, but don't make things worse.
At the very least CCP needs to try and stop this from further escalation. There's now 2000 in Jita local and the protest blob is growing.
--- Donations from retiring capsuleers are welcome. |

Myfanwy Heimdal
Caldari Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:39:00 -
[107]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
I do agree with the childish stuff and the threats on other threads.
But, a lot of this could have been stopped if someone at CCP HQ actually listened to people a little in the past few weeks of their concerns.
I've written to CCP Penn giving my reasons why things are broken in two reasonable messages. I have told her that I could be contacted if anyone wished to talk.
There are reasonable members of the EVE community who are willing to talk to people to explain what the issues are but no-one has bothered to talk to anyone.
CPP Penn's message this morning was staggering in its ignorance - that she claimed that the stormclouds were mostly because of overpriced monocles, skirts and shirts. That statement was arrogance at best; the stuff had been aired on the forums for weeks now and she never bothered to read them nor ask anyone what the issues are.
The issues are, quite simply.
- That the $99 fee for a developer's licence is wrong. - That nothing in the in-game store should be to enhance a player's in-game position. - Therefore, that everything sold in the in-game store should be vanity items only. - No microtransactions at all. - That we, the subscribers, are mere cash cows and golden geese - The Incarna update seems to be wholly unfinished. - The Walking in Station should be, and always should be, optional - That Pixel Shading 3 should not be a requirment for those not using Captain's Quarters - The icons given to us in the last patch for the targetting are invisible and should be replaced - That CCP shouldn't ignore the customers - There is resentment that the CSM isn't listened to - There is strong belief that CCP have lied to the customers - There is strong belief that the Money Men and Suits have taken over running of the game - That there have been no real in-game improvements to this patch at all. - Lastly, the offer of a free t-shirt in-game only to those who made the Fest was a little rude.
And, there you have it.
All someone had to do was to find some people who are not incapable of writing balanced mails and talk to them. But, instead, we're seen to as cash cows by management.
There you have it.
Regards
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Shandir
Minmatar Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:40:00 -
[108]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
We'd really appreciate it if you could insist on an ETA, especially if 'today' is not guaranteed to be the answer. We have been waiting for a very long time considering the situation. Simply let us know whether or not we should leave, so we can start moving on. -
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Khamal Jolstien
Caldari Sick Tight BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:41:00 -
[109]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
If you had responded sooner, or you know, not betrayed our trust in the first place, this wouldn't have happened.
You're calling customer feedback "childish antics".
Originally by: McKinlay When you get on the batphone and the only people left in the phone book are Aeternus and BLAST it might be time to hang up.
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A'nat
Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:41:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Marchocias Edited by: Marchocias on 24/06/2011 18:33:56 I think you'll find that we pay good money not to be a waste of your time.
Seriously, your comments on here have been one step forward, ten steps back!
+1 omw to Jita
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Cpt Syrinx
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:41:00 -
[111]
Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
LOLs were had, +1 internet
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Rdm
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:42:00 -
[112]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
We tried being polite, apparantly THIS is the only language you ****s understand.
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Logesh Sinulf
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:42:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Shandir
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
We'd really appreciate it if you could insist on an ETA, especially if 'today' is not guaranteed to be the answer. We have been waiting for a very long time considering the situation. Simply let us know whether or not we should leave, so we can start moving on.
dont hold ur breath to be fair i want to belive on ccp as a company i really do but at the moment i just carnt bring myself to support you guys
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Thimerion
BOAE INC -Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:43:00 -
[114]
CCP Failout, you seem mad bro. Maybe you should try listening to paying customers in future rather than just forging ahead with plans blind to the sea of people telling you not to. "Bloody customers giving us their money every month and wanting a decent service out of us"
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Madcapnl
The Rising Stars -Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:43:00 -
[115]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
Another childish comment coming your way: the CCP in your name actually stands for Cant Communicate Properly. WTF dude, why pour even more oil on a raging fire? Get some +5 intelligence implants or something.
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Grimpak
Gallente The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:46:00 -
[116]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
childish? yes, but this is one of the very, very, very (very) few tools we can use atm, considering that A) the silence coming from your side only makes things worse, and B) you've started to pull NGEisms on the forums (ban Liang? Seriously?? ) ---
Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
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Bobang Rasmataz
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:48:00 -
[117]
The mobs recieved word from those inside the bunker and its...
I thinly vailed insult tinged with annoyance and a pathetic attempt to buy more time. (which im informed only costs 5000000 aurum)
Not what the crowd was expecting but its a start.
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Kuronaga
Kantian Principle
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:48:00 -
[118]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
Sorry friend, you know thats not prone to happen.
You may be assigned to help clean up this mess, but we both know it was not you or the players who caused it. The very fact so many players come toghether now is a sign of maturity, not immaturity.
In a game like Eve it takes much for everyone to band toghether like this. This kind of nonsense does not happen every day, no? I am sorry however, that you must deal with the short term reprecussions of a thousand angry nerds instead of your superiors.
It is not you who deserve this ire, but this is the only form of communication left we feel, or we would not be doing it.
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Cataca
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:49:00 -
[119]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
I agree that many of the posts are just spam and mostly silly, but lets be serious here, what exactly did you expect?
The game designers clearly showed a lack of understanding of the very basics of "micro"transactions and the leaked newsletter is basically a HUGE kick in the nuts of the community.
I personally, feel insulted. And a little joke here wont work at all untill you clarfied that there will be NO microtransactions for non vanity items. It BREAKS the sandbox we play in.
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Darth Vapour
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:50:00 -
[120]
Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
Here is a suggestion: walk over to the Community team or talk to them of the phone and find out for sure. A weasel term like 'my understanding is....' is of little use, either they are working on it or they are not.
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Manos Heimenbarger
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:51:00 -
[121]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
There comes a point when all other options have been tried, and people get desperate. CCP has caused this reaction, from the current state of the game, to the technical problems with incarna, to the price of items in the noble shop, to the leak of the newsletter, and then the crushing silence from CCP... People do what they can to get a response. This does seem to be working, if people took issue with all this, and didn't make this huge stink, this would have gone largely ignored by CCP. We all know this.
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Grog Barrel
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:52:00 -
[122]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
bipolarity?
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Zemkhoff
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Posted - 2011.06.24 19:00:00 -
[123]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
Well it's not like that's been tried before. Hundreds of threads with thousands of well thought out discussions and posts on anything from balancing to MT to sov to POSes have been basically ignored, and now you want people to "stop being so angry and childish guise"?
If flinging poo at the computer screen is the only way to get your attention, then so be it.
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MissingNo1
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Posted - 2011.06.24 19:03:00 -
[124]
Originally by: CCP Fallout WHINE
Really, even you too? LOL
DEVs are now whinners also!
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Myfanwy Heimdal
Caldari Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
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Posted - 2011.06.24 19:07:00 -
[125]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
Please could you then advise me on how I can get heard?
I have written three constructive messages to CCP and all have been ignored. What should then be my next course of action, other than resign my subscription or act, as you would have it, childishly?
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Bloodpetal
Mimidae Risk Solutions
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Posted - 2011.06.24 19:12:00 -
[126]
Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
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Jason1138
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Posted - 2011.06.24 19:16:00 -
[127]
"No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop."
every time CCP messes up big the first thing they do is tell you how bad they've got it and try to make you feel sorry for them.
you lied to people and released a garbage expansion and now they're mad? poor you. you should be at home right now having a beer, not having to sit there and actually do your job. Life is SO hard
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.24 19:28:00 -
[128]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
Have you considered how under the current circunstances gathering & moving info up the ladder is WAAAY more relevant than enforcing certain forum rules?
Yet you delete pony pics and choose to do it instead of gathering info and moving it up the ladder... and it is OUR fault? 
"Priorities", man. Priorities.
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Saving Face
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Posted - 2011.06.24 19:29:00 -
[129]
Edited by: Saving Face on 24/06/2011 19:29:02
Originally by: Jason1138 you lied to people and released a garbage expansion and now they're mad? poor you. you should be at home right now having a beer, not having to sit there and actually do your job. Life is SO hard
Actually most of the community would probably not blame Fallout for any of this. But now that she's chosen to begin her day with complaining about the community that's probably down the drain.
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Sejanus Petreaus
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Posted - 2011.06.24 19:30:00 -
[130]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
If you guys had done your jobs in the first place, you wouldnt have to sit here whining like a little schoolgirl about you job being to tuff, and we wouldn't have to waste your precious time...
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Barakkus
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Posted - 2011.06.24 19:31:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Kuronaga
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
Sorry friend, you know thats not prone to happen.
You may be assigned to help clean up this mess, but we both know it was not you or the players who caused it. The very fact so many players come toghether now is a sign of maturity, not immaturity.
In a game like Eve it takes much for everyone to band toghether like this. This kind of nonsense does not happen every day, no? I am sorry however, that you must deal with the short term reprecussions of a thousand angry nerds instead of your superiors.
It is not you who deserve this ire, but this is the only form of communication left we feel, or we would not be doing it.
I've been in Fallout's shoes before, forum revolts are no fun and counter productive.
Everyone has been told at this point that something is going to be said, so people really should just lay off the childish bull**** for a little bit and let them do whatever it is they need to do instead of babysitting the forums all day. The longer the stupid crap continues, the longer it's going to take to get what you want said, said. - [SERVICE] Corp Standings For POS anchoring |

bilingi
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.24 19:32:00 -
[132]
Isnt fallout the idiot that said all people In NPC corps are RMTers?
Lady hope those feet in your mouth once again have at least been washed.
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Takishu
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Posted - 2011.06.24 19:36:00 -
[133]
No, we don't get it...
CCP Fallout is the only man standing in the forum on the 600+ working at CCP.
STOP TALKING US **** !
Srly... Are you really trying to make us feel like crap because, you, poor moderator, are overwhelmed by our rage ? Are you REALLY trying to convince us that CCP doesn't respond because : "Oh, you know, i can't relay the information". Do you mind their are blind ? Yes. We already know that, by now.
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Ksenia Femerov
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Posted - 2011.06.24 19:37:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Kuronaga
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
Sorry friend, you know thats not prone to happen.
You may be assigned to help clean up this mess, but we both know it was not you or the players who caused it. The very fact so many players come toghether now is a sign of maturity, not immaturity.
totally agree with you Kura.
In a game like Eve it takes much for everyone to band toghether like this. This kind of nonsense does not happen every day, no? I am sorry however, that you must deal with the short term reprecussions of a thousand angry nerds instead of your superiors.
It is not you who deserve this ire, but this is the only form of communication left we feel, or we would not be doing it.
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Mittava Ankara Jorma
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Posted - 2011.06.24 19:38:00 -
[135]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
Are you serious, or are you just trolling? How much more feedback can you possibly want? I have never in my over eight years in Eve seen anything agreed upon by the player base like this. Nothing comes even close.
- Killing Eve's heart, the persistent universe with player driven market and player driven demand=destruction with AUR that is clearly internally planned
- to fund other projects while Eve clearly gets fewer resources than ever
- while insulting your paying playerbase
is not going well for your company. Nobody - not one - person I have talked to or whose opinions I have read have liked where you are going.
Do you honestly think that you need more feedback? I doubt it, so you must be trolling.
A statement that AUR will not ever be used for items or other services with ingame impact such as for example ammo ships or faction standings mentioned in the pamphlet will do for starters. The head of CCP Soundwave (figuratively speaking you mods looking for excuses to ban me) and your CFO will then appeace me. I can't speak for anyone else, but I can guess their feelings pretty damn well by now.
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Ranka Mei
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.24 19:38:00 -
[136]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
Your anger is misplaced, and, tbh, a mite distasteful.
Instead of swinging with the banhammer and scolding your subscribers, who have a VERY legitime reason to be upset, you should be working on that official reply Pann promised us we'd see today.
-- "All your monies AUR belong to us." -- CCP |

Hiryu Jin
noXCorp Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
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Posted - 2011.06.24 19:41:00 -
[137]
tbh, anyone from CCP that says anything, other than what the people want to hear, are going to receive massive rage. You guys haven't just stirred up the hornets nest, you've kicked it into the faces of angry bears.
Internet spaceships are serious business!
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Brego Tralowski
Galactic Extensive Technologies SUB ROSA ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2011.06.24 19:43:00 -
[138]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
Well it's obviously getting to you, so it is working from our perspective. You say this needs to stop well give us something and sort it out.
----------------------------- Fail expansion is still fail. |

Laura Kingsley
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2011.06.24 19:44:00 -
[139]
Originally by: Hiryu Jin
You guys haven't just stirred up the hornets nest, you've kicked it into the faces of angry bears.
I loved that! 
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DeODokktor
Caldari Dark Templars The Fonz Presidium
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Posted - 2011.06.24 19:45:00 -
[140]
Originally by: Tutskii
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
Ban everyone! In fact, banning from the game and refunding might be a good way to do things, less upset customers, less upset customers posting, right?
Heh, Price to unban a upset customer = 11,000 Aurum. ----------- Never Forget the joy of finding a main to link to a scammer alt. N-y-p-h-u-r ! ! |
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Ranka Mei
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.24 19:47:00 -
[141]
Edited by: Ranka Mei on 24/06/2011 19:49:29
Originally by: Hiryu Jin tbh, anyone from CCP that says anything, other than what the people want to hear, are going to receive massive rage. You guys haven't just stirred up the hornets nest, you've kicked it into the faces of angry bears.
It's probably going to be ugly, yes -- at this point I don't think that can be avoided any more. There's simply no easy way out here. I'm sorry, but there is simply no cheap recovery from having a document leaked in which you show utter disdain for your own customers.
If I were CCP, I'd go with the truth. Probably still gonna get ugly, but at least it will give CCP a fighting chance.
-- "All your monies AUR belong to us." -- CCP |

Otebski
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Posted - 2011.06.24 19:47:00 -
[142]
Em.. I am a bit drunk but did i read it right? Is comunity manager calling customers childish? Thats pretty effing pro way to run bussiness. Hats off. Next time i get a developer ask me to design 2 extra floors in building i am designing i will call their demands childish. This will end well.
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Zemkhoff
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Posted - 2011.06.24 19:47:00 -
[143]
Originally by: Barakkus
Originally by: Kuronaga
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
Sorry friend, you know thats not prone to happen.
You may be assigned to help clean up this mess, but we both know it was not you or the players who caused it. The very fact so many players come toghether now is a sign of maturity, not immaturity.
In a game like Eve it takes much for everyone to band toghether like this. This kind of nonsense does not happen every day, no? I am sorry however, that you must deal with the short term reprecussions of a thousand angry nerds instead of your superiors.
It is not you who deserve this ire, but this is the only form of communication left we feel, or we would not be doing it.
I've been in Fallout's shoes before, forum revolts are no fun and counter productive.
Everyone has been told at this point that something is going to be said, so people really should just lay off the childish bull**** for a little bit and let them do whatever it is they need to do instead of babysitting the forums all day. The longer the stupid crap continues, the longer it's going to take to get what you want said, said.
You must be new here if you think any kind of meaningful discussion/opinions will ever be acted on at the top. What gets their attention is threadnaughts, spam, and unsubbed accounts with borderline rude messages.
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Ana Vyr
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.24 19:47:00 -
[144]
What needs to stop is CCP NOT RESPONDING to valid player concerns prior to shipping a patch. You guys could have sorted this entire mess with communication before Incarna shipped.
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Amar Azaph
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Posted - 2011.06.24 19:49:00 -
[145]
The silence is deafening while the tumbleweed blows by...... Sent from a campfire using smoke signals. |

Avensys
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Posted - 2011.06.24 19:50:00 -
[146]
Edited by: Avensys on 24/06/2011 19:50:35
Originally by: CCP_Fallout i sent my bro my nephews 10th bday gift, the red box. My brother unwrapped it thinking it was for him, then cursed me out when knew :)
i paid amazon 5 bucks for that wrapping! but my bro says it's a great gift, and they'll play it. win :D
@KrispyDingo they remade it horribly. it's not Basic like we know it, but has tokens and stuff, and step-by-step guides
@qoonpooka just me taking a little break and recharging :D
Linkage
POOOOR Mr. Fallout, so busy dealing with all the childish spam from all his customers
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Waylan Yutani
Gallente Order of the Seraphim
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Posted - 2011.06.24 19:50:00 -
[147]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
No, not really - You got the best and most dedicated playerbase in the entire mmo universe. It's that dedication that drives you guys to do the right thing and keep you at the very top. Right now you guys are in a pinch between the "customers are always right" and "greed is good", i'll hope you'll do the right thing
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BeanBagKing
Terra Incognita Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2011.06.24 19:52:00 -
[148]
Originally by: Ranka Mei
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
Your anger is misplaced, and, tbh, a mite distasteful.
Instead of swinging with the banhammer and scolding your subscribers, who have a VERY legitime reason to be upset, you should be working on that official reply Pann promised us we'd see today.
I think that's his point, is that he's trying to work on the official reply. Or more specifically, fully gather our reactions (300+ or so pages of threads to go through) so that someone with the authority to comment on all of this can. Those people are too busy in damage control meetings (where they should be) trying to sort all this out to read through it themselves, they've delegated the responsibility to him (poor Fallout, sorry man). As seen from his point of view, he's scolding the ones posting unhelpful pony posters.
However, Fallout, look at things from our point of view. Over a year ago the MT discussion came up and CCP said no. Then an informal vote was cast by CSM, our elected representatives, to see how we felt, we then said no. We have been fairly quiet all this time but constantly saying no, this isn't something we want. You put it in game anyway AND THEN THE NEWSLETTER! Your asking us to be calm and logical right now. I think the feeling of most players is that we've been doing that, for a year or so, and that it hasn't worked. Since you didn't listen to us then, pony pictures and pure rage are the only options left (I don't condone the death threads in all this, just the rage).
I know that part isn't your fault, and you have no way of -making- those above you do anything. Nor are you a spokesman that can answer our questions. However, I don't think that any of this is the players fault either. I do agree with you that it would be better handled in a clam manner, thus this post and several other walls-o-text I've written. However, at this point I don't feel like taking your side and trying to restrain them either. We've been perfectly calm about this in the past, it apparently hasn't gotten through.
I'm sorry this makes your job so much harder, and I'm sorry you have to see the bad face of Eve, but I don't think any of this is the players fault. I hope once all this clears up there's no hard feelings from you, from CCP, or from the players, but this has been a perfect storm waiting to happen. It'll take a long time to rebuild that relationship though.
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Toman Torax
Rage For Order Nihil-Obstat
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Posted - 2011.06.24 19:54:00 -
[149]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
The level of absolute cluelessness by yourself and the rest of CCP is just so amazingly off the charts and beyond pathetic that it's just not even funny. The bell is tolling for you, and your response is to stick your fingers in your ears.
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Drifnir
Mnemonic Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.06.24 19:57:00 -
[150]
I have a feeling it'll stop soonTM, and when it does it will be AWESOME!
Yeah...sucks doesn't it? Please pass that one on. /RAGE
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Majuan Shuo
Gallente Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.06.24 19:57:00 -
[151]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
Oh you can kiss the fattest part of my ass.
Left cheek, center region.
"All your monies AUR belong to us." -- CCP |

Salvianna Vasquez
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Posted - 2011.06.24 19:58:00 -
[152]
Quote: Hundreds of threads with thousands of well thought out discussions
Very amusing.
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Lil' Bo Peep
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Posted - 2011.06.24 19:59:00 -
[153]
Originally by: CCP Fallout It's a waste of my time
Grow up.
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Otebski
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:00:00 -
[154]
Originally by: Lil' Bo Peep
Originally by: CCP Fallout It's a waste of my time
Grow up.
And change your job if you its waste of your time
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Vexion Daran
Gallente Templars of Space
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:00:00 -
[155]
As i look at Jita, Amarr and Perimeter i think we are way past the point of asking people to calm down. Giving no responce and telling them not to do this will only give the rage more fuel.
Now it are the main trade hubs that are blocked next could be the forums being flooded with more pony's.
I really think a responce from CCP is long overdue. I also think that CCP should be very carefull what to post as almost everone in EVE is looking with fear or with this pure rage at you responce. A few ill chosen words could lead to an explosion and who knows what next.
Please do not let this go out of control any further.
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Laserham Lincoln
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:01:00 -
[156]
It seems to me that the issue is this. The player base has been clear about not wanting RMT, and being ambivalent (at best) about Incarna. These sentiments seem (rightly or not) to have been completely ignored by CCP.
Now, these sentiments were not always expressed in the most reasoned, eloquent way. The internet is what it is, and its denizens are prone to hyperbole and vitriol even when they're calm.
And now? The playerbase is ****ed. When you use hyperbole as your baseline, where do you go from there? I appreciate that you need to maintain some sort of order on the forums, but these sentiments are not new, and should have gone up the chain before this crisis happened. Bile spewing seems to be the only way to get the message across.
Well, that and shooting up space monuments.
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Saving Face
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:02:00 -
[157]
Originally by: Otebski
Originally by: Lil' Bo Peep
Originally by: CCP Fallout It's a waste of my time
Grow up.
And change your job if you its waste of your time
The latter will happen on its own.
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RougeOperator
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:04:00 -
[158]
Edited by: RougeOperator on 24/06/2011 20:04:55
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
People voicing legitimate outrage?
Cant handle the heat get out of the kitchen.
This attitude of looking down on the very people that make the game possible and the jobs of CCP possible needs to stop.
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Mr Kidd
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:08:00 -
[159]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
I don't see any circumstance where one's customer wastes one's time since the customer is the one paying the bill. That's your's and CCP's problem right there.
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Manos Heimenbarger
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:10:00 -
[160]
Honestly, in most lines of business, when you insult your customers by calling them names to their faces (childish?), they talk to your superior and you get diciplined.
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Twitch Nakrar
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:11:00 -
[161]
I fail to see how childish behavior, makes a statement any more than a child throwing a tantrum. Both need to be punished and ignored.
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Lanrick
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:11:00 -
[162]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
/facepalm One step forward, 8 steps back. The trick is to stop talking well before you have run out of things to say. ------- "The strong are often wrong but the weak are never free." |

IGNATIUS HOOD
Amarr Zephyr Corp V.A.S.T.
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:11:00 -
[163]
This is *not* a brushfire that can be contained. This *is* the the beginning of a revolt. Revolts need to be understood, grievances need to be addressed, and action needs to be taken. Spin has no play here, the unpalatable nature of these changes and the questions that have been spawned by the communication regarding MT is making this situation uncontrollable. Every minute you squander is just going to add to the universal misery of CCP. It's unfortunate that it seems to have come to this, but as much as I keep trying to tell myself its just a game I think the actions over the last few days have proven that it's more than that. We spend time here, we spend money here. Time and money we don't get back. Many of the account holders have put a sizeable bit of their lives and a not to be overlooked amount of treasure into EVE. Therefore I think it should be understandable that when they see things going a direction that is bad for EVE they would seek a redress of grievances. Yes we could all just leave, that would be easier for everyone, but I think the fact that most are choosing to scream injustice and go to the effort of actually protesting in game should tell you all you need to know about how much the line has blurred. It does matter to us. That should be obvious to everyone at CCP now.

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Myra2007
Millstone Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:13:00 -
[164]
Without our outrage the people higher up the ladder would've simply ignored this. You know this is the truth. You know they don't even listen to your own people. Of course you're bound to pretend something else but w/e. -- Zinfandelgate - A fictionalized account of the events that led to June, 21st |

Sader Rykane
Amarr Midnight Sentinels Midnight Space Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:13:00 -
[165]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
I find this statement to be a bit disingenuous; you say that this "child behaviour" is wasting your time, yet clearly the noise being made here is actually causing you (CCP) to atleast take more than a passing glance at your history and perhaps make some changes. So yes, this behaviour IS getting us somewhere.
To reiterate:
"It's working."
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Alrione
Black Lagoon Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:14:00 -
[166]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
U mad? What do you expect by completely ignoring the playerbase for 2 days? What about all the valid concerns being raised? Get over yourself and stop treating your paying customer base, that have brought this far over 8 years BY THE WAY if you forgot, like ****.
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Lanrick
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:27:00 -
[167]
Really we shouldn't be so hard on them. It could be taking them this long to write the devblog because they are also busy freshing up the resumes for Monday. ------- "The strong are often wrong but the weak are never free." |

Rivver
Amarr Legions Ltd
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:41:00 -
[168]
Dear CCP Fallout,
As a 5/26/2003 (and BETA) character, I must convey the following: You work for us. We pay your living. If you do not accept this, you are welcome to find employment elsewhere. Your players are not wasting your time, they are simply giving you the feedback you asked for. Regardless of how you feel about the feedback, it IS feedback.
The playerbase is charged and you should not be surprised. CCP has made a grave PR mistake and this is now out of your hands. Escalate the issue so that the appropriate responses may be made. Once CCP has rectified the situation, everyone will be able to move forward and this threadnought can be put down for good.
Thanks,
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Jada Maroo
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:52:00 -
[169]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
I dunno why you're surprised. CCP planned to turn us all into their own personal ATM machines, people found out, got mad. Seems pretty rational to me. Now CCP is QQing about the reaction?
Let me play the world's smallest violin.
CCP tears = best tears
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Katrina Cortez
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Posted - 2011.06.24 21:01:00 -
[170]
Edited by: Katrina Cortez on 24/06/2011 21:13:13
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
I can sympathize with your situation, however, you and I both know that everything that is going to be said has already been said... CCP could have avoided most of this if they had engaged the playerbase earlier. The ball is in CCPs court and they are dropping it. The longer CCP keeps quiet the more time the playerbase has to create MT parodies, protest, etc. thus giving the gaming media more detrimental things to write about Eve. Tell that to your "people higher up the ladder".
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Caelestis Starcaller
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Posted - 2011.06.24 21:08:00 -
[171]
Ah it all doesnt matter one bit. I have to completely agree with CCP Fallout that this is whole thing is childish behavior. Whats the point of shoot invulnerable structures trying to take down a server built to handle this abuse and more.
Anyone who want to protest for real simply dont buy aur items and be done with it. If it doesnt generate income then its considered a failure.
I find the NeX to be one big joke but in fact its not forcing me to do anything i normally wouldn't do heck if you could even buy a ship with aur how is that different from selling plex and buying one?
NeX is nothing more then some shiny icons trying to catch the focus of people to use a system that has been in the game for a long time already which is the plex selling/buying
It becomes slightly different when you can buy things like skills that you normally cant buy with the original plex method but well see if that ever happens.
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Macsadbro
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Posted - 2011.06.24 23:23:00 -
[172]
Edited by: Macsadbro on 24/06/2011 23:25:20 Why should CQ be made optional? nothing else in eve is?
CQ causes massive CPU and GPU usage? Not really?
Incarna is filled with bugs? The only ones I've seen have been dealt with already.
NEX stuff is too expensive? Why? you dont HAVE to buy it (granted this is the one thing in eve that IS optional...)
And in there official statement, they made clear that it wasn't policies, instead it was just opinions on WHAT COULD HAPPEN!!!
Also, all you forum Keyboard warriors, how often do you guys actually play the game? Do you play the game more or troll this forum more?
Edit: Also, the forums are not the entire player base... mmmk?
The EVEO forums ARE NOT the eve online community. They are were the eve online trolls, and bitter vets live.
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Jasmine Dupre
Kharn Empire Knights Of Freedoms
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Posted - 2011.06.25 00:47:00 -
[173]
Originally by: Macsadbro Edited by: Macsadbro on 24/06/2011 23:25:20 Why should CQ be made optional? nothing else in eve is?
CQ causes massive CPU and GPU usage? Not really?
Incarna is filled with bugs? The only ones I've seen have been dealt with already.
NEX stuff is too expensive? Why? you dont HAVE to buy it (granted this is the one thing in eve that IS optional...)
And in there official statement, they made clear that it wasn't policies, instead it was just opinions on WHAT COULD HAPPEN!!!
Also, all you forum Keyboard warriors, how often do you guys actually play the game? Do you play the game more or troll this forum more?
Edit: Also, the forums are not the entire player base... mmmk?
The EVEO forums ARE NOT the eve online community. They are were the eve online trolls, and bitter vets live.
Ahh wrong!! i rarely post in here but WTF..... the issue is only RMT for in game - game effecting items that would destroy the sandbox and everthing that makes EvE great.
Originally by: CCP Sharkbait we are screwed. delaying startup again.
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BeanBagKing
Terra Incognita Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:50:00 -
[174]
Edited by: BeanBagKing on 25/06/2011 02:50:06
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
Yep....
Originally by: CCP Hilmar I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say.
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Ris Dnalor
Minmatar Fleet of Doom RaVeN Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:59:00 -
[175]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
Right. seriously. scold your customers more. ****ing ubelievable.
You sowed, now you reap. deal.
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Smoke Adian
Caldari League of Gentlemen
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:04:00 -
[176]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
u mad?
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Benri Konpaku
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:10:00 -
[177]
Prepare for the fallout (pun intended, no seriously ) after Incarna and P2W and lulzsuckercostumerkids newsletters and internal communication.
Also, anyone knows how many subs lost would it take for CCP to start firing their less successful employees?  |

Alijah Mercer
Caldari King Wholesaling
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Posted - 2011.06.25 07:46:00 -
[178]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
If people weren't pulling **** you wouldn't even have noticed.. If you would have noticed without the BS we wouldn't be in this damn boat. As was stated... It's working.
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Vikarion
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.25 07:48:00 -
[179]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
Oh, it does, does it? Well, how about you and your arrogant company admit you lied about prohibiting pay-to-win MT! How about you commit (again!) not to do it, and keep that? Why don't you STOP ****ING ON US AND TELLING US THAT IT'S RAINING! - - -
Originally by: CCP Pann If you have something to say, IĘd like very much to hear it.
Originally by: Hilmar this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say.
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Uglavitch Nefrex
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.06.25 07:52:00 -
[180]
I will laugh when the player base vacate this game and you are all made redundant CCP. Then you can call it childish all you want.
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Othran
Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.06.25 07:57:00 -
[181]
His attitude comes from people above him.
Having just read the leaked Hilmar (CEO) email I can tell you that CCP really don't care what you say on this matter. They only care about whether you stay or leave - nothing else is a concern at this time.
IT WILL HAPPEN regardless of anything you say.
The only message you can give CCP which they will listen to is "My subscription is cancelled".
Hit the unsubscribe button - do it now because flying around monuments etc doesn't cause CCP any problems at all.
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Cosmodyne
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Posted - 2011.06.25 07:59:00 -
[182]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
We are the customers you deserve. *Derp Knight*
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bryanbc
Gallente Abyssal Heavy Industries Narwhals Ate My Duck
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Posted - 2011.06.25 08:05:00 -
[183]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
YOU MAD BRO?!?!?!?! XD
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Kara Audanie
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Posted - 2011.06.25 08:14:00 -
[184]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
Childish antics? Seriously? I mean SERIOUSLY? Go back to the forum and look up some more, I'll assure you that it isn't childish antics at all.
-1 Subscribing Account. (Expiring July 23.) :| |

Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
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Posted - 2011.06.25 08:16:00 -
[185]
I am at a loss to see how this is our fault?
------------------------ Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum "I've got a couple of Strippers on my ship... and they just love to dance!" ------------------------ |

bryanbc
Gallente Abyssal Heavy Industries Narwhals Ate My Duck
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Posted - 2011.06.25 08:23:00 -
[186]
Edited by: bryanbc on 25/06/2011 08:26:45 http://i.imgur.com/7AVZR.png
SUPER YUMMY CCP!
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bryanbc
Gallente Abyssal Heavy Industries Narwhals Ate My Duck
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Posted - 2011.06.25 08:28:00 -
[187]
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bryanbc
Gallente Abyssal Heavy Industries Narwhals Ate My Duck
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Posted - 2011.06.25 08:31:00 -
[188]
DOWN THE HILL CCP GOES!
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Rupert VonDraken
Resilience.
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Posted - 2011.06.25 08:31:00 -
[189]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
It wastes your time dealing with the concerns of players who feel so alienated that they have no other recourse??
It wastes your time dealing with people, who pay your salary, when they are concerned that they are not receiving the goods and or services that they have paid for??
I guess you are all pretty busy developing expansions with no content, pushing through MT for ingame advantage, and laughing at the lol-customers... ill let you get back to it.
The only people at CCP right now who deserve any sort of kudos for the work they are doing are Team BFF and Team Gridlock.
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Steve Thomas
Minmatar Sebiestor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.06.25 08:39:00 -
[190]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
I agree.
Unfortunatly the childishness seems to have started with that PDF. Honestly, useing Greed is good was BLEEEPING stupid to start with. you DO realise that movie was not that well watched. I got the Joke part of it. but most people only know that movie from the Greed is good. they missed the part where mr Greed is good gets tossed in the pokie for screwing over his clients for his own gain.
and you do know that people in your own company have been forwarding thoes "internal newsletters" to people outside of your offices for months now. .End of line.
If your too paranoid to play EvE. . . ...then your not paranoid enough to play EvE ----------------
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Ranger 1
Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.06.25 08:42:00 -
[191]
Originally by: Steve Thomas
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
I agree.
Unfortunatly the childishness seems to have started with that PDF. Honestly, useing Greed is good was BLEEEPING stupid to start with. you DO realise that movie was not that well watched. I got the Joke part of it. but most people only know that movie from the Greed is good. they missed the part where mr Greed is good gets tossed in the pokie for screwing over his clients for his own gain.
and you do know that people in your own company have been forwarding thoes "internal newsletters" to people outside of your offices for months now.
So in essence the mistake they made was in not realizing how monumentally stupid the bulk of the EVE forum community is, that they would completely miss the point of the title.
Yep, I can see that pretty easily.  ===== The world will not end in 2012, however there will be a serious nerf to Planetary Interaction. |

Mr Mickey
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Posted - 2011.06.25 08:45:00 -
[192]
Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
I think your relatively lucky... if we were all in the same country it would be pitchforks and fire!
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Minty Spidersauce
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Posted - 2011.06.25 08:51:00 -
[193]
I witnessed the self-destruction with SWG. It wasn't pretty. This reminds me exactly of that. If CCP ignores its core fan-base, they will find out that their gamble loses them everything.
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Steve Thomas
Minmatar Sebiestor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:17:00 -
[194]
Originally by: Ranger 1
Originally by: Steve Thomas
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
I agree.
Unfortunatly the childishness seems to have started with that PDF. Honestly, useing Greed is good was BLEEEPING stupid to start with. you DO realise that movie was not that well watched. I got the Joke part of it. but most people only know that movie from the Greed is good. they missed the part where mr Greed is good gets tossed in the pokie for screwing over his clients for his own gain.
and you do know that people in your own company have been forwarding thoes "internal newsletters" to people outside of your offices for months now.
So in essence the mistake they made was in not realizing how monumentally stupid the bulk of the EVE forum community is, that they would completely miss the point of the title.
Yep, I can see that pretty easily. 
Ironicaly I can also see a lot of the developer teams missing the point of that movie quote and thinking oh my god there freaking idiots who think greed is good. .End of line.
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buck herrick
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Posted - 2011.06.25 14:03:00 -
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f...... great !
now i feel better - this post is full of WIN!
i am not sorry for any CCP employee. i will not let up. i have many many years invested here. i am a paying customer and demand service.
i will not be called childish, even if i appear to be. i refuse to be ignored. i will not be referred to in the terms that i have in recent 'documentation'
you have ALL the feedback you could ever want. there are well over 1000 pages of it on the forums. there are posts with major news, gaming, fan and general internet sites all over the world. it will soon be reaching printed media.
the picture is not pretty - do not mistake bad press and ignorance for good PR.
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Avon
Caldari Versatech Co. Raiden.
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Posted - 2011.06.25 14:09:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time,
Those "time wasters" pay your wages.
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buck herrick
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Posted - 2011.06.25 14:24:00 -
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looks like a few refuse to subsidise the arrogant lack of customer service any more:
The list and the tally so far: 885 people cancelling or not renewing a total of 2026 accounts.
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Raynn
Caldari Galactic Salvage Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.25 17:10:00 -
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Interesting approach to customer service, I must say. Why don't you call Sony and talk to John Smedley? He can let you know how well ignoring you subscrber base works. Vanity items are way expensive, but adding pay to win items is horrible. Only seen that in hack F2P mmo's usually developed in Korea or China.
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Serpents smile
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Posted - 2011.06.25 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Originally by: CCP Fallout
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time,
Those "time wasters" pay your wages.
No they don't. You, we, pay CCp for a game product, EVE. What they do with that money is non of our business as long as we get what we subscribed for and agreed to upon entering this game by accepting the EULA.
Stop acting like 9 year olds. Think I wrote that before. There is nothing to gloat here about. No LOL, so funny. This is deeply sad, for both parties. No one will win here. We'll all lost something when, if, this is over.
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Morgan Polaris
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Posted - 2011.06.25 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: Steve Thomas Unfortunatly the childishness seems to have started with that PDF.
I think it actually started a few minutes after Incarna was released, in a certain help channel, by a certain CCP employee, in a certain biz dev position.
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Avon
Caldari Versatech Co. Raiden.
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Posted - 2011.06.25 22:58:00 -
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Originally by: Serpents smile What they do with that money is non of our business
True, but without it they have no business.
That is why it is generally a good idea to try and retain the custom of the people who pay you today, rather than chase them away and hope your *new ideas* will pay the same amount or more.
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Biomassed everyoneelse
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Posted - 2011.06.25 22:58:00 -
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I wonder why they don't want to talk?
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Master Andrew
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Posted - 2011.06.25 23:06:00 -
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The fact that failboat posted 5 minutes after OP just shows that they are watching the forums and makes this lack of communication even worse - they see the rage on forums and refuse to respond -
stop flucking around and at least respond -
'we are working on a response' jut isnt good enough -
stop trying on $1000 japanese jeans and have a sit down - christ how long does it take a team of 'profesionals' to work out what to say to their customers who they jusy took a giant covert turd on and got found out through an in house leak

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Benri Konpaku
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Posted - 2011.06.25 23:07:00 -
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Nothing like keeping your head in the sand to make all those voices talking about your doom to go away.  |

Harcosi
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Posted - 2011.06.25 23:07:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
Hopefully the next blog actually helps us to regain faith in this game.
I don't know why CCP want to destroy such an awesome game.
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Reed Tiburon
Caldari Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
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Posted - 2011.06.25 23:08:00 -
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Aineko Macx
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Posted - 2011.06.26 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not.
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