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Darth Dreads
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
This
could be a post from any player asking you the same thing
I guess it's just a matter of karma, what goes around comes around
good luck with the press release
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Why Meeeeeh
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
As you (CCP, not you personally) stated last year: "quantity over quality". Are you stating this view has changed?
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Marchocias
Snatch Victory
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:33:00 -
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Edited by: Marchocias on 24/06/2011 18:33:56 I think you'll find that we pay good money not to be a waste of your time.
Seriously, your comments on here have been one step forward, ten steps back! ---- I belong to Silent Ninja (Hopefully that should cover it). |
Landlady
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder... Really, this needs to stop.
SELECT * FROM TBL_FORUM_LIVE WHERE THREADID=1536065
That will get you the info you need, people have waited for long enough now, they are getting antsy. CCP Pann made a noble sacrifice, but apparently was pulled away from the forums.
Your best path towards keeping the forums civil would have been to keep him(or someone with a CCP tag at least, even if it had been the janitor) in that thread until your statement was ready.
Now each post silly post you lock fans the flames, I've seen this before, as did other here I am sure, on the SWG forums the night when the NGE was announced; before the end the community manager was in on it(Tiggs) and they just tossed the forums open w/o moderation for like 48 hours.
Was a fun evening, the troll hidden deep in my heart relishes re-living it again.
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Aineko Macx
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere. Really, this needs to stop.
We have been giving as much feedback as possible for years. Funny that only now "the players perspective" is being shared with people higher up the ladder.
I can guarantee your frustration is nowhere near that of the betrayed players. HTFU. ________________________ CCP: Where fixing bugs is a luxury, not an obligation. |
Janus Talmash
Talmash Imports and Exports Group
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
If the company you work for treats its customers like they're children who are better off "not knowing and just be told what to do when it gets there", you can expect rebellion exploding in your face.
Btw, all the "perspective" you need is reading Tippa's document. ________
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Herping yourDerp
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
empire wardecs are a valid component in the game that may or may not cost aurum in the future you can quit your corp if you don't like it to resume your day to day activities without fear of an attack.
but in all seriousness, don't let the childishness of a few damage the points brought up about CQ, MT, the memo, ect.
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Mamayev Kurgan
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:34:00 -
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I think its quite obvious that being cute won't get CCP out of this .. but 48 hours in it's apparent their quiver is empty.
That blog better be the MOTHER of all DEVBLOGS if you have any hope of quieting this storm.
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Malak Alraheem
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:35:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout
Really, this needs to stop.
Actually, it worked quite well in Egypt.
. - I just saved a fortune on my ship insurance by switching to Incarna! Yes, you also can save $15 or more a month by cancelling your alt accounts with Incarna! Incarna, the Alt killer! |
Hornet69
Dragonian Measures
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:36:00 -
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Edited by: Hornet69 on 24/06/2011 18:38:10
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
To be fair CCP Fallout, it's not a waste of your time. But the time on SiSi and the player feedback was a waste of our time. This should have been pushed up the the people higher up the ladder then. The player base if left with expressing their frustration this way because there is no other way. Apart from all stopping subscriptions until it's sorted that is. Feedback doesn't seem to work. As a player I for one don't want to have to leave a game to get a response, but the communication from CCP needs to improve.
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Rattus Norwegius
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: Vernex
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
You've got a 5000+ reply post with nearly half a million views that I imagine contains enough feedback about the player's "perspective". CCP's lack of a coherent response is the only "waste of time" I see.
Cheers.
This.
You (CCP) do not need to write a devblog that is such a masterpiece of litterature that Shakespear would fall to his knees weeping. You only need to answer the core question with a couple of sentences. Then you can go back to writing the "Epic Devblog to end all sorrows", to be published Soon(TM).
Also, on the topic of "being constructive", stop banning people and locking threads. It is not helping. You too, can see that is not helping. And yes, it is a waste of time.
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Zondrail
Formic Hive
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
Yeah... this is the player's fault, right?
And of course, maintaining ongoing communication with the community is a waste of time, too.
I'm starting to expect less and less from what we're eventually going to hear.
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Maya Firewish
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:36:00 -
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Does the team also understand why they're getting all these war declarations? |
Farelle
Gallente Core Impulse Auctorita Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:37:00 -
[104]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
how hard is it to say, the community totally and utterly rejects MT and believes that CCP Soundwave should resign?
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Mark Raynor
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:38:00 -
[105]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
The problem is, it's not going to stop until we know our feedback (read: FORUM/TWITTER/BLOG RAGE) is getting heard. Catch-22 from hell, but I'm afraid that's the way it is.
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Sakura Zendragon
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:38:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
The situation is escalating and getting cute with the customers will not help. I understand that things are probably tense at CCP right now and that you're getting aggravated, but don't make things worse.
At the very least CCP needs to try and stop this from further escalation. There's now 2000 in Jita local and the protest blob is growing.
--- Donations from retiring capsuleers are welcome. |
Myfanwy Heimdal
Caldari Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:39:00 -
[107]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
I do agree with the childish stuff and the threats on other threads.
But, a lot of this could have been stopped if someone at CCP HQ actually listened to people a little in the past few weeks of their concerns.
I've written to CCP Penn giving my reasons why things are broken in two reasonable messages. I have told her that I could be contacted if anyone wished to talk.
There are reasonable members of the EVE community who are willing to talk to people to explain what the issues are but no-one has bothered to talk to anyone.
CPP Penn's message this morning was staggering in its ignorance - that she claimed that the stormclouds were mostly because of overpriced monocles, skirts and shirts. That statement was arrogance at best; the stuff had been aired on the forums for weeks now and she never bothered to read them nor ask anyone what the issues are.
The issues are, quite simply.
- That the $99 fee for a developer's licence is wrong. - That nothing in the in-game store should be to enhance a player's in-game position. - Therefore, that everything sold in the in-game store should be vanity items only. - No microtransactions at all. - That we, the subscribers, are mere cash cows and golden geese - The Incarna update seems to be wholly unfinished. - The Walking in Station should be, and always should be, optional - That Pixel Shading 3 should not be a requirment for those not using Captain's Quarters - The icons given to us in the last patch for the targetting are invisible and should be replaced - That CCP shouldn't ignore the customers - There is resentment that the CSM isn't listened to - There is strong belief that CCP have lied to the customers - There is strong belief that the Money Men and Suits have taken over running of the game - That there have been no real in-game improvements to this patch at all. - Lastly, the offer of a free t-shirt in-game only to those who made the Fest was a little rude.
And, there you have it.
All someone had to do was to find some people who are not incapable of writing balanced mails and talk to them. But, instead, we're seen to as cash cows by management.
There you have it.
Regards
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Shandir
Minmatar Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:40:00 -
[108]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
We'd really appreciate it if you could insist on an ETA, especially if 'today' is not guaranteed to be the answer. We have been waiting for a very long time considering the situation. Simply let us know whether or not we should leave, so we can start moving on. -
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Khamal Jolstien
Caldari Sick Tight BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:41:00 -
[109]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
If you had responded sooner, or you know, not betrayed our trust in the first place, this wouldn't have happened.
You're calling customer feedback "childish antics".
Originally by: McKinlay When you get on the batphone and the only people left in the phone book are Aeternus and BLAST it might be time to hang up.
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A'nat
Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:41:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Marchocias Edited by: Marchocias on 24/06/2011 18:33:56 I think you'll find that we pay good money not to be a waste of your time.
Seriously, your comments on here have been one step forward, ten steps back!
+1 omw to Jita
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Cpt Syrinx
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
LOLs were had, +1 internet
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Rdm
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:42:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
We tried being polite, apparantly THIS is the only language you ****s understand.
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Logesh Sinulf
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:42:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Shandir
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
We'd really appreciate it if you could insist on an ETA, especially if 'today' is not guaranteed to be the answer. We have been waiting for a very long time considering the situation. Simply let us know whether or not we should leave, so we can start moving on.
dont hold ur breath to be fair i want to belive on ccp as a company i really do but at the moment i just carnt bring myself to support you guys
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Thimerion
BOAE INC -Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:43:00 -
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CCP Failout, you seem mad bro. Maybe you should try listening to paying customers in future rather than just forging ahead with plans blind to the sea of people telling you not to. "Bloody customers giving us their money every month and wanting a decent service out of us"
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Madcapnl
The Rising Stars -Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:43:00 -
[115]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
Another childish comment coming your way: the CCP in your name actually stands for Cant Communicate Properly. WTF dude, why pour even more oil on a raging fire? Get some +5 intelligence implants or something.
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Grimpak
Gallente The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
childish? yes, but this is one of the very, very, very (very) few tools we can use atm, considering that A) the silence coming from your side only makes things worse, and B) you've started to pull NGEisms on the forums (ban Liang? Seriously??) ---
Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
ain't that right. |
Bobang Rasmataz
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:48:00 -
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The mobs recieved word from those inside the bunker and its...
I thinly vailed insult tinged with annoyance and a pathetic attempt to buy more time. (which im informed only costs 5000000 aurum)
Not what the crowd was expecting but its a start.
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Kuronaga
Kantian Principle
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:48:00 -
[118]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
Sorry friend, you know thats not prone to happen.
You may be assigned to help clean up this mess, but we both know it was not you or the players who caused it. The very fact so many players come toghether now is a sign of maturity, not immaturity.
In a game like Eve it takes much for everyone to band toghether like this. This kind of nonsense does not happen every day, no? I am sorry however, that you must deal with the short term reprecussions of a thousand angry nerds instead of your superiors.
It is not you who deserve this ire, but this is the only form of communication left we feel, or we would not be doing it.
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Cataca
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:49:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Aineko Macx It's working!
No, it's not. It's a waste of my time, which I could be spent gathering more feedback and talking with people making sure the player's perspective is being shared with people higher up the ladder, I'm wasting time with extremely childish antics that get no one anywhere.
Really, this needs to stop.
I agree that many of the posts are just spam and mostly silly, but lets be serious here, what exactly did you expect?
The game designers clearly showed a lack of understanding of the very basics of "micro"transactions and the leaked newsletter is basically a HUGE kick in the nuts of the community.
I personally, feel insulted. And a little joke here wont work at all untill you clarfied that there will be NO microtransactions for non vanity items. It BREAKS the sandbox we play in.
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Darth Vapour
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout My understanding is that a blog is being worked on. I don';t know what the ETA of it is, as the Community team has been too busy handling war declarations from various countries.
Here is a suggestion: walk over to the Community team or talk to them of the phone and find out for sure. A weasel term like 'my understanding is....' is of little use, either they are working on it or they are not.
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