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Angel HUN
Spricer Raiden.
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:26:00 -
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Edited by: Angel HUN on 25/06/2011 02:29:05 sent by hilmar to ccp global list-
(strt)
We live in interesting times; in fact CCP is the kind of company that if things get repetitive we instinctively crank it up a notch. That, we certainly have done this week. First of we have Incarna, an amazing technological and artistic achievement. A vision from years ago realized to a point that no one could have imaged but a few months ago. It rolls out without a hitch, is in some cases faster than what we had before, this is the pinnacle of professional achievement. For all the noise in the channel we should all stand proud, years from now this is what people will remember.
But we have done more, not only have we redefined the production quality one can apply to virtual worlds with the beautiful Incarna but we have also defined what it really means to make virtual reality more meaningful than real life when it comes to launching our new virtual goods currency, Aurum.
Naturally, we have caught the attention of the world. Only a few weeks ago we revealed more information about DUST 514 and now we have done it again by committing to our core purpose as a company by redefining assumptions. After 40 hours we have already sold 52 monocles, generating more revenue than any of the other items in the store.
This we have done after months of research by a group of highly competent professionals, soliciting input and perspective from thought leaders and experts in and around our industry. We have communicated our intention here internally in very wide circles through the Virtual Economy Summit presentation at the GSM, our Fearless newsletter, sprint reviews, email lists and multiple other channels. This should not come as a surprise to anyone.
Currently we are seeing _very predictable feedback_ on what we are doing. Having the perspective of having done this for a decade, I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say. Innovation takes time to set in and the predictable reaction is always to resist change.
We went out with a decisive strategy on pricing and we will stay the course and not flip flop around or knee jerk react to the predictable. That is not saying nothing will change, on the contrary, in fact we know that success in this space is through learning and adapting to _what is actually happening_ and new knowledge gained in addition to what we knew before and expected.
All that said, I couldnGÇÖt be prouder of what we have accomplished as a company, changing the world is hard and we are doing it as so many times before! Stay the course, we have done this many times before.
(end)
All I have to say is: called it. Said this would be a stall tactic, and it is.
Originally by: CCP Oveur
We. Will. Never. Leave. EVE.
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Golakka
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:28:00 -
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Edited by: Golakka on 25/06/2011 02:33:06 Edited by: Golakka on 25/06/2011 02:31:30 Edited by: Golakka on 25/06/2011 02:29:05 Edited by: Golakka on 25/06/2011 02:28:23 First inb4 Sh__storm
RIP Eve online.
Community up in arms, CCP doesn't give a flying proverbial.
Given the current situation, this was about the WORST think that could have happened for CCP just now....
I guess CCP is in for interesting times.... Interesting times indeed.......
"The level of f***ed CCP is in, is akin to a nun caught masturbating into the vicars Y-Fronts"
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Xeross155
Minmatar NED-Clan Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:28:00 -
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Goodbye EVE Online, it was fun while it lasted. --------------------------------------------- Xeross' ventures into EVE |
Moolti
Gallente Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:28:00 -
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we live in interesting time indeed. . @)}---^----- The Jove are a warning to us all. We must remember to live and Love and feel. Fall in Love, make Love, be beautful and see the beautiful. For we mustn't loose our human spark |
Implying Implications
Minmatar Broski Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:29:00 -
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rip >Implying Implications |
Koba Kyogen
The Concordiat Concordiat Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:29:00 -
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Edited by: Koba Kyogen on 25/06/2011 02:37:44 This legitimate or not?
Verify please.
Koba
edit - if this is real, it's a damn tragedy
Originally by: CCP Sharkbait we are screwed. delaying startup again.
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Elex Akat
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:29:00 -
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When it rains it absolutely ****ing pours, this could be the end for a lot of players if this is real.
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Nor Tzestu
Amarr Defensores Fidei Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:29:00 -
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For Realz?
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Christine Saraki
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:29:00 -
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Page 1
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Regime Caretaker
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:29:00 -
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Edited by: Regime Caretaker on 25/06/2011 02:32:50 Umm...wow
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Demon Azrakel
Gallente Defiant.. Narwhals Ate My Duck
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:29:00 -
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If this is real...
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SamGromoff
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:30:00 -
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Enjoy watching what players do and not what we say *cancels accounts*
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Senedane Zyremdez
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:30:00 -
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Edited by: Senedane Zyremdez on 25/06/2011 02:33:32 Un... friggin... believable.... So is Mittens quitting like he said on Twitter? I may have my four accounts out the door at this point.... How utterly disrespectful, CCP :( This can be leaked but we can't get the "yes" answer in the dev blog? You can't even give us that?!?!?!??
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RougeOperator
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:30:00 -
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Originally by: Koba Kyogen This legitimate or not?
Verify please.
Koba
I thought the "Fearless" thing was fake at first.....I just cant say anymore.
Ill assume its real since they have been lying to use and treating us like crap.
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NOTRED DONTSHOOT
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:30:00 -
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Accounts have 1 and two months respectively left upon them.
Counter running down now... preparing for the worst, hoping for the best
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Zelphinine
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:30:00 -
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This has got to be a troll.
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Goatse Girl
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:30:00 -
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"I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say"
He doesn't think we have got what it takes to make a stand,We need to show this clown who pays his salary
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Tam Althor
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:30:00 -
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If this is real, then he has his head further up his ass than I thought was possible.
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Ladie Scarlet
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:31:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Hilmar I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say.
There you have it. CCP is going to charge forth with this nonsense despite what their players want. The Eve Online version of the NGE is here.
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Cailais
Amarr Dawn of a new Empire The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:31:00 -
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I believe you will shortly review your appraisal of 'highly competent professionals'.
C.
'GREED IS GOOD' - CCP 2011 (ಠ_O)
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Aeril Thrace
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:31:00 -
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If it's true... it's very bad for us, and very good for them. If they have sold 52 monocles and generating revenue then, sorry, but we are the ones that are losing :(
Hope we can do something to change that.
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Maxpie
Metaphysical Utopian Society Explorations
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:31:00 -
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Please be a troll He put... creatures... in our bodies... to control our minds. He made us... say lies... do things. |
AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:31:00 -
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Hilmar says don't look at what we say, look at what we do.
So stop posting and start unsubscribing.
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Snake Scofield
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:31:00 -
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Good.
Can you all leave now please?
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Cancel Align NOW
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:31:00 -
[25]
Possible Deliberate Leak.
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BeanBagKing
Terra Incognita Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:32:00 -
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Quote: I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say.
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Kismo
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:32:00 -
[27]
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JC Anderson
Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:32:00 -
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They just read that on EVE radio...
Not really sure what to say to be honest.
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Sovox
Amarr Mercurialis Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:32:00 -
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Run for your ****n lives!!!!!!!!!
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Alley Specter
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:32:00 -
[30]
Copy and paste this everywhere ASAP.
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Captain Hurrdurr
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:32:00 -
[31]
oh boy.
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Blacksquirrel
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:32:00 -
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He's right though...Lets see how many people actually quit rather than cry because of change.
Lets see if they do go back on their word and introduce ships for monies.
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Cosmoes
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:32:00 -
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Hmm
I believe that may be real. Don't see anything in there that surprises me much. ------------------- piccy |
XIRUSPHERE
Gallente The 8th Order Mean Coalition
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:32:00 -
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Edited by: XIRUSPHERE on 25/06/2011 02:32:15 Stay the course hilmar, just remember to take a monocle or two into the bunker with you. The file size of your signature is too large. Please use a smaller file - Failout |
Jada Maroo
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:32:00 -
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Wow. Just wow. I guess we know where the real problem lies. The wait for TOR begins.
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Eva Simonson
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:32:00 -
[36]
inb4 the sh!tstorm
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Quacka
Minmatar Dark Tree Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:32:00 -
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Its thread-naught time mutha ****as!
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Lirael Dyrim
Gallente In Bacon We Trust
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:32:00 -
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Not surprised.
"Until they become conscious they will never rebel, and until after they have rebelled they cannot become conscious." |
Ribaldry
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:32:00 -
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Edited by: Ribaldry on 25/06/2011 02:36:42 $3,640 USD worth of monocles is a success?
$70USD x 52 = $3,640
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oldmanst4r
Minmatar oldmanst4r's Corporation
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:32:00 -
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i have canceled my subscription and am awaiting the impending release of Guild Wars 2. I have also begun the biomassing process on all my characters. How's that for doing something.
Originally by: CCP Shadow
*snip* Castration successful. Shadow.
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Chuck Sands
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:32:00 -
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Will not continue to subscribe. Logging out of Jita now. o7.
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Deimos Barret
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:33:00 -
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If this is legit, WAY TO FAN THE FLAMES HILMAR. You guys are REALLY pushing the WRONG BUTTON. You are treating us like morons. you will look back on this and REGRET the day your company fell.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:33:00 -
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Im not surprised anymore.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Angel HUN
Spricer Raiden.
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:33:00 -
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Also, sorry guys I did edit out the header. I didn't want the content to get lost. If you want to see it you can go to various sources for EVE News.
Originally by: CCP Oveur
We. Will. Never. Leave. EVE.
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Malice Redeemer
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:33:00 -
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very predictably, I will not be resubing
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Demonia Achu
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:33:00 -
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LOL, WTF... Well I hope he can find his way to the trailer park this is your new home, Hilmar!!!
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Kerrisone
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:33:00 -
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Eve has brain cancer. It isn't because of Monocles FFS. |
Natalia Kovac
Minmatar Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:33:00 -
[48]
Yeah, go **** yourself Hillmar.
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Hayaku Codolle
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:33:00 -
[49]
this is like.. termite, holy crap.. sit back and watch the fireworks!
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Myxx
Atropos Group
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:33:00 -
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If things couldn't get bad enough... Hilmar... of all people?
Wow. --
Originally by: CCP Explorer (and if you guys would also stop using Drakes it would be really appreciated, kthxbye).
Originally by: Tom Gerard
Then again... I am a moron.
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Pherick Sjang
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:33:00 -
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RIP EVE, we hardly knew ye.
:psyduck:
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Thaylon Sen
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:33:00 -
[52]
Game over... sub runs out on the 3rd... wont be back.
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TheWangofChuck D
Project Nemesis WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:33:00 -
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How is Dust514 going to interact with a game that doesn't have a playerbase anymore? |
Ospie
The Python Cartel. The Defenders of Pen Island
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:34:00 -
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If it's real, then GG. Goodbye eve :(
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Valari Nala Zena
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:34:00 -
[55]
Apparently it's leaked by the same person that leaked the PDF file, according to EVE radio.
That document turned out to be real, so i'm guessing this is too.
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Kismo
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:34:00 -
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A volcano exploding in his house would be too kind.
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WhiskeyGirl
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:34:00 -
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un freakin believable...
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Tipsy
Gallente X-Factor Industries Synthetic Existence
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:34:00 -
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Edited by: Tipsy on 25/06/2011 02:36:38
Originally by: Ribaldry $3,640 USD worth of monocles is a success?
If they maintained $90 an hour - and this is just the beginning - it'd be just under $800,000 a year. That's a pretty powerful incentive to go in this direction.
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Satallius
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:34:00 -
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Edited by: Satallius on 25/06/2011 02:34:47 You guys are really buying this? Some guys post in the forums? This isn't even from a reputable source. Not Eve News 24, not Eve tribune, nothing. Just One guy posting on the forums, look, I can do it too:
sent by hilmar to ccp global list-
(strt)
Folks, we have an awesome player in our midst. Satallius. We should all be so lucky that he will play our game. From now on, I declare Satallius gets all the free ships he could ever want, including a Titan. Thank you. (end)
See?
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Falcus Aurelius
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:34:00 -
[60]
If this is real...wow. Will enjoy watching you fall ccp. Cant help but believe it at this point...
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Major Stallion
The Dark Horses.
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:34:00 -
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The. End.
Well done CCP. Good job on alienating your clients.
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Elondris Singh
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:34:00 -
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what the ****? What The ****?! WHAT THE ****?!?!?
can you tell I'm ****ed?
____ Even these can't save CCP
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Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:35:00 -
[63]
Thanks!
------------------------------------------------- Play with the best - die like the rest starwreck.com - support the cause :) |
Zverofaust
Gallente Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:35:00 -
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Originally by: Satallius You guys are really buying this? Some guys post in the forums? This isn't even from a repubable source. Not Eve News 24, not Eve tribune, nothing. Just One guy posting on the forums, look, I can do it too:
sent by hilmar to ccp global list-
(strt)
Folks, we have an awesome player in our midst. Satallius. We should all be so lucky that he will play our game. From now on, I declare Satallius gets all the free ships he could ever want, including a Titan. Thank you. (end)
See?
http://www.evenews24.com/2011/06/25/ccp-hilmar-global-email-shows-the-reasoning-behind-ccp-zulu-devblog/
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Mark Raynor
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:35:00 -
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Game over, guys. It's been real. Time to sit back and watch the end.
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Kerrisone
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:35:00 -
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Originally by: Ribaldry $3,640 USD worth of monocles is a success?
70x52=3640
That is ~=$3640 for literally nothing, pixels that took a few hours to design, skin, and render to avatar eyes. It is just the beginning of stupid ass crap they can sell to idiot players with too much isk or $ and nothing else to spend it on. It isn't because of Monocles FFS. |
Katrina Cortez
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:35:00 -
[67]
well written piece of crap
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Llambda
Space Llama Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:35:00 -
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Edited by: Llambda on 25/06/2011 02:35:26 I don't buy it - and don't make the mistake of thinking I'm a CCP apologist, either. I've already unsubbed two accounts. This just smells like troll to me.
It has to be.
Nobody could be this stupid.
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Nor Tzestu
Amarr Defensores Fidei Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:35:00 -
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Monocles? Who gives a rats behind.
I'm appalled anyone thinks the loltastic framerate GPU deathsquad patch is attractive. Artistic achievement? Good grief. I mean the CQ is semi pretty and all, but it's no great shakes.
Oh yeah, I am sure some of you are ****ed about the Aurum stuff. Continue on.
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Malak Artoo
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:35:00 -
[70]
RIP Eve Online
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Lilliana Stelles
Caldari Nagrom Security Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:35:00 -
[71]
Oh wow, FIFTY whole monocles. That'll buy you 1/10th of a company car. Or give one person a small raise. Or go buy yourself a 3D TV. I'm glad they're happy.
If I were corporate, I'd be much happier with 50,000 small sales. You know, affordable items.
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Bowkers
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:35:00 -
[72]
oh wow...
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Ivanna Nuke
Gallente Holders Of The Cowbell
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:35:00 -
[73]
CCP I was stood to defend you to the end of days for EvE, Seriously you have some work to do to climb out from this.
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Laine Todako
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:36:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Satallius Edited by: Satallius on 25/06/2011 02:34:47 This isn't even from a reputable source. Not Eve News 24
But it IS on eve news 24.
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Tobias Sjodin
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:36:00 -
[75]
Perhaps CCP is taking the loyalty of the EVE-community for granted. ^^
HABIT
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Copine Callmeknau
Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams The KWFL Republic
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:36:00 -
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Edited by: Copine Callmeknau on 25/06/2011 02:36:41 Oh my ****ing christ.
How can you be so out of touch with the community when we make it so blatantly obvious, do we need to physically come to iceland and brand it into your ****ing forehead?
WE DO NOT WANT ITEMS OF POWER/CONVENIENCE IN THE NeX STORE!
We need this addressed immediately, nobody gives a **** about how much a useless damn monocle costs and thinking that we do shows how out of touch you are with the people putting food on your table. ...oh wait
Stunning EVE Online Theme for PS3 |
Rihannsu78
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:36:00 -
[77]
Go EVE woohoo I like the changes :)
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Cancel Align NOW
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:36:00 -
[78]
Time to kill this game off.
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Siiee
Recycled Heroes
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:36:00 -
[79]
This is the reply that we should have gotten several days ago.
Now watch what we do.
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Delkana Fox
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:36:00 -
[80]
Quick question for anyone with an accounting or business degree..
HOW THE HELL DOES 52 SALES FROM A AUDIENCE OF TENS OF THOUSANDS COUNT AS A SUCCESS?
I seems to me that if I were selling a newspaper in a city of only 10,000, 52 subscriptions would put me out of business no matter how high the price. |
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Shadowstomp
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:36:00 -
[81]
53 monicles.... that seriously makes my stomach churn. Hillmar............ you greedy ginger douche bag.....I hope you wallow in your failure here....If this message is true, you just ran me off as well.
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Deimos Barret
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:36:00 -
[82]
CCP is now taunting us. This is a blatant test to see just how much money they can suck from us before we tear the ground from under them. They've COMPLETELY given up on damage control and have fallen back to huddling together around their money-making and hoping the ****storm fires die down and they can keep making their money.
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Ariel Nova
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:36:00 -
[83]
I.. don't know what to say anymore...
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Xavier Highbrow
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:36:00 -
[84]
Anyone taking notice of any of this and believing it, grow up and open your ****in' eyes
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Darkstorm708
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:37:00 -
[85]
Just as we thought in could not get any worse.
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Valorous Bob
The Real OC Cascade Probable
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:37:00 -
[86]
jesus christ this is ridiculous
/o\
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Cailais
Amarr Dawn of a new Empire The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:37:00 -
[87]
So sad.
C.
'GREED IS GOOD' - CCP 2011 (ಠ_O)
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Blacksquirrel
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:37:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Ribaldry $3,640 USD worth of monocles is a success?
70x52=3640
In the first couple of days... how long did it take the art dept to draw and texture one? Sure it wasn't 3k worth of time.
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Sha Dar
eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:37:00 -
[89]
F*CK !!!!
This is ridiculous. Are you really trying to kill this game/company ????? |
Arlenna Molatov
Caldari Domination Heavy Industries Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:37:00 -
[90]
Edited by: Arlenna Molatov on 25/06/2011 02:37:58 WE have to make sure this is authentic before we all shoot the target.
Make sure you are NOT being used as tools......then take action.
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XIRUSPHERE
Gallente The 8th Order Mean Coalition
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:38:00 -
[91]
So far, 834 player accounts counted as canceled. that is $12,510 counted as USD. Stay the course. The file size of your signature is too large. Please use a smaller file - Failout |
Nomade
Minmatar shadow and cloaking Yggdrasill.
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:38:00 -
[92]
I have stop the subscribe of my all alt ..... I conserv my main ....for the moment I love it when a plan comes together. |
Buzz Hulbreech
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:38:00 -
[93]
FK me do they really think its just about the monos?
What about that graphical abortion* of time wasting called CQ, that needs 3x the processing power of any other part of the game, that ads no functionality at all, in fact reduces it.
*my professional opinion as a 3d games artist of 23 years standing, really who did that lighting, do you keep them in a cave?
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ThaWolf
The Executives Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:38:00 -
[94]
lol thats its for me and eve then...
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Warrik41
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:38:00 -
[95]
I had canceled my account previously thinking I would resub it when they gave me a deffinative answer to my questions...
Regardless of their answers now I won't be giving CCP another dime.
"I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say"
guess your right... watch me "do"
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Goatse Girl
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:38:00 -
[96]
I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say
that's what they think of the playerbase
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar The Python Cartel. The Defenders of Pen Island
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:38:00 -
[97]
riiight.... leaked
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SilentSkills
Gallente Tax Evaders Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:38:00 -
[98]
**** YOU CCP MonocleMonocle
The door thread - http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID |
Ben Derindar
Dirty Deeds Corp.
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:38:00 -
[99]
That's it, then. It's finally over.
Eve is truly dead.
/Ben
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Nullity
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:38:00 -
[100]
We're rich (in monocles)! We're rich!
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Barkaial Starfinder
Minmatar The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:38:00 -
[101]
Fake mail.
You think the CCP CEO is going to throw emails like this?
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Apollo Gabriel
Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels Etherium Cartel
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:38:00 -
[102]
Hillmar says unless you QUIT you don't CARE!
They maximized the profit curve, which means you'll lose players, but those that stay will pay more.
***** Signature may appear without warning! ***** Please do not feed the trolls, it builds dependency.
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Zugger
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:38:00 -
[103]
What is this? I don't even...
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Tam Althor
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:38:00 -
[104]
Well after reading this, I now have all my accounts inactive.
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Natalia Kovac
Minmatar Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:39:00 -
[105]
But yeah, once this is confirmed to be real, I think i'm out.
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Katrina Cortez
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:39:00 -
[106]
nail in coffin...eve dead
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Cpt Wrongway
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:39:00 -
[107]
I think I died a little on the inside...
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Gashblight
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:39:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Angel HUN Edited by: Angel HUN on 25/06/2011 02:29:05 sent by hilmar to ccp global list-
(strt)
We live in interesting times; in fact CCP is the kind of company that if things get repetitive we instinctively crank it up a notch. That, we certainly have done this week. First of we have Incarna, an amazing technological and artistic achievement. A vision from years ago realized to a point that no one could have imaged but a few months ago. It rolls out without a hitch, is in some cases faster than what we had before, this is the pinnacle of professional achievement. For all the noise in the channel we should all stand proud, years from now this is what people will remember.
But we have done more, not only have we redefined the production quality one can apply to virtual worlds with the beautiful Incarna but we have also defined what it really means to make virtual reality more meaningful than real life when it comes to launching our new virtual goods currency, Aurum.
Naturally, we have caught the attention of the world. Only a few weeks ago we revealed more information about DUST 514 and now we have done it again by committing to our core purpose as a company by redefining assumptions. After 40 hours we have already sold 52 monocles, generating more revenue than any of the other items in the store.
This we have done after months of research by a group of highly competent professionals, soliciting input and perspective from thought leaders and experts in and around our industry. We have communicated our intention here internally in very wide circles through the Virtual Economy Summit presentation at the GSM, our Fearless newsletter, sprint reviews, email lists and multiple other channels. This should not come as a surprise to anyone.
Currently we are seeing _very predictable feedback_ on what we are doing. Having the perspective of having done this for a decade, I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say. Innovation takes time to set in and the predictable reaction is always to resist change.
We went out with a decisive strategy on pricing and we will stay the course and not flip flop around or knee jerk react to the predictable. That is not saying nothing will change, on the contrary, in fact we know that success in this space is through learning and adapting to _what is actually happening_ and new knowledge gained in addition to what we knew before and expected.
All that said, I couldnGÇÖt be prouder of what we have accomplished as a company, changing the world is hard and we are doing it as so many times before! Stay the course, we have done this many times before.
(end)
All I have to say is: called it. Said this would be a stall tactic, and it is.
These people are seriously out of touch.
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kroniksenvy
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:39:00 -
[109]
this sucks, eve is the only thing that really is interesting in my life apart from friends and family, the way they just turn around and tell you to **** yourself is astounding,
guess i wont be getting in that nighthawk now :./
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Khorie
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:39:00 -
[110]
Originally by: XIRUSPHERE So far, 834 player accounts counted as canceled. that is $12,510 counted as USD. Stay the course.
that's the ones that people are tell you about... most people that quit just quit and ever come back to say it in the forums ...
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RougeOperator
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:39:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Barkaial Starfinder Fake mail.
You think the CCP CEO is going to throw emails like this?
Remember when the fearless PDF was fake.
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Darkstorm708
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:39:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Darkstorm708 Just as we thought in could not get any worse.
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Gothikia
Regeneration
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:39:00 -
[113]
Goodbye EVE Online. Screw you Hilmar, I want you to answer for this. I believe I speak for everyone when I say that you should resign right now.
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Katra Novac
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:39:00 -
[114]
What a cad, he has no interest in his customers what-so-ever just got his eye on the $.
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Ohh Yeah
SniggWaffe FREE KARTTOON NOW
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:40:00 -
[115]
Lmfao
this is great
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Voixy
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:40:00 -
[116]
You can bet your fat, ugly ass I'm going to 'resist change'. Logging out for the last time, uninstalling, 7-sweep shred of the remaining data.
Don't need to play in a ****ed-in sandbox. |
WhiskeyGirl
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:40:00 -
[117]
is it normal to be crying right now?
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Mr Kidd
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:40:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Blacksquirrel
Lets see if they do go back on their word and introduce ships for monies.
You don't need to see. You know they will.
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Solomon XI
Hidden Souls
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:40:00 -
[119]
FAIL!
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Call Me Death
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:40:00 -
[120]
Jesus F**KING christ.
EVE died before my eyes in the matter of days.
(unsubbed all accounts yesterday). but reading this today.. I'm F**KING PROUD of myself.
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Skunk Gracklaw
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:40:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Sha Dar F*CK !!!!
This is ridiculous. Are you really trying to kill this game/company ?????
I actually think CCP is bored with Eve and are just using it to fund development of their ridiculous console shooter and their Twilight mmo. They certainly are no longer interested in making Eve the best sci-fi game on the market.
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Joe Skellington
Minmatar Caldari Elite Force Apocalypse Now.
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:40:00 -
[122]
Originally by: Natalia Kovac But yeah, once this is confirmed to be real, I think i'm out.
Same here. Which is sad, I really love this game.
--
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Iamien
Democracy of Klingon Brothers
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:40:00 -
[123]
Only one thing to do. Take action and un-subscribe and stop playing eve for at least one month.
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bryanbc
Gallente Abyssal Heavy Industries Narwhals Ate My Duck
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:40:00 -
[124]
Stop *****ing like 10 year olds and dont buy the ****
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Nullity
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:41:00 -
[125]
Edited by: Nullity on 25/06/2011 02:40:54
Originally by: Disconnected CEO of Failing Company
But we have done more, not only have we redefined the production quality one can apply to virtual worlds with the beautiful Incarna
Oh boy. This has to be satire right? Like Stephen Colbert? He's hilarious!
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Kerrisone
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:41:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Barkaial Starfinder Fake mail.
You think the CCP CEO is going to throw emails like this?
Just like the newsletter was fake right? It can't possibly be real. It isn't because of Monocles FFS. |
Vorlain
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:41:00 -
[127]
This sounds like a typical CCP exec.. so I am guessing it real and as per Hilmars;
Quote: I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say
I have said nothing and cancelled all my alts subs after reading that, I can live on one account.
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Nor Tzestu
Amarr Defensores Fidei Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:41:00 -
[128]
Originally by: WhiskeyGirl is it normal to be crying right now?
No, but please continue.
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Janus Talmash
Talmash Imports and Exports Group
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:41:00 -
[129]
Edited by: Janus Talmash on 25/06/2011 02:42:16 Listening to EVE-radio and having read the mail;
Zulu nor Soundwave are to blame or should be "attacked" over what they've been stating lately. They simply have to talk the corporate talk, nothing more. It's truly disheartening and depressing and I do apologise to both of them for my words aimed at them, even though they were "mild". ________
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Gogol Premier
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:41:00 -
[130]
My view... 1 - No Microtransactions 2 - No Incarna or it's an option 3 - Shader 2 back 4 - Stop the plex and GTC system (this is Microtransactions also), it was a trap.
So many years, and now that ? What happened ?
By the way I will feel shame to continue to play EVE if... Leave your name here for random stuffs, i give up
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:41:00 -
[131]
Epic. -
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Sarrcyn
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:41:00 -
[132]
I think this is real.
These sound like words of a pretty competent CEO and leader rallying his troops.
I respect him for that. It's respectable to stay on course, even through adversity and naysayers.
The ultimate judge of the success of their strategy will be their long term revenue (and profits).
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Leon Razor
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:41:00 -
[133]
So it's 2 am on a Saturday in Iceland: can't think of a worse time for this to hit the fan. They either need to wake everyone up and deal with this now, or post that everyone will be back to work on Monday to give a real response. I don't know if this email is real, but I do know we need proof one way or the other.
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Snake Scofield
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:42:00 -
[134]
I'd just like to say thanks for sticking to your guns CCP. I actually have more respect for you after all of this than before.
Nice to see someone who actually believes in what they're doing and isn't swayed by differing opinions.
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SNeAkYbRiT
Gunslingers Corp
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:42:00 -
[135]
sry I have no idea what to say, apart from can I have what ya smoking Hilmar cos u are well off the planet!
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Bklyn 1
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:42:00 -
[136]
If this proves to be real, I'm out.
There are only so many times a company can say "We hate you" before I take the hint and leave.
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COMEATMEBRO IMHERE
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:42:00 -
[137]
smells like a really bad troll. especially since he mention the monocle in the mail.
but yea for some people its easier to rage then to think.
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Vivienne Amora
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:42:00 -
[138]
Guys calm down. This was a very standard corporate message sent to keep the troops in check. What is going on in the top boardrooms and what is being discussed is probably very different.
Also note that the version of the email posted here is missing the timestamp. It was sent late yesterday evening - therefore anything that came today supercedes it, and everything that comes tomorrow does so too.
Hilmar also stated very clearly that he would pay attention more to what the players DO (i.e. NOT buying monacles) as opposed to what players SAY (the number of trolling posts is uncountable).
Once things calm down a little more and CCP folks have enough of a chance to see the valid points being made behind the anger, I am sure they will address it.
Remember your anger is at the possibly bleak future that microtransactions would introduce where MT would ruin the game experience as opposed to just being purely vanity related. VANITY is what they have addressed, and so VANITY is what they know. Give CCP a chance to catch up :)
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Llambda
Space Llama Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:42:00 -
[139]
Originally by: Kerrisone
Originally by: Barkaial Starfinder Fake mail.
You think the CCP CEO is going to throw emails like this?
Just like the newsletter was fake right? It can't possibly be real.
The level of absurdity here would normally only be found on, say, The Onion. The only thing it was missing was a, "MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!" at the end.
It has to be fake.
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Ivanna Nuke
Gallente Holders Of The Cowbell
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:42:00 -
[140]
Originally by: Katra Novac What a cad, he has no interest in his customers what-so-ever just got his eye on the $.
This sorry CCP you have lost my faith, you seriously need to grovel back your playerbase, and as for your reputation are you TRYING to beat the Star Wars Galaxies event?
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Nikki West
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:42:00 -
[141]
TL;DR:
THEY DON'T CARE WHAT WE THINK. ---
Free LIANG, Free HELICITY |
Sandwich PvP
Furian Necromongers
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:42:00 -
[142]
Wow, thank you for confirming the worst, you are not only out of touch with your customers, your out of touch with reality!
I unsubbed last night on 3 accounts, and you have made it look like a wise decision. I have 50 days left to waste, and 50 bil in ships and supplies and it will be spent making sure everyone knows how CCP really feels about them.
"Random death in the life support system"
Sort by what? |
Darkstorm708
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:43:00 -
[143]
Originally by: WhiskeyGirl is it normal to be crying right now?
Since Eve is about to be sucked into a black hole(pun intended) yes, yes it is.
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Natalia Kovac
Minmatar Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:43:00 -
[144]
I'm sad though. Spent like 5 years of my life playing this game.
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Kerrisone
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:43:00 -
[145]
Originally by: XIRUSPHERE So far, 834 player accounts counted as canceled. that is $12,510 counted as USD. Stay the course.
~=$150,120 a year not counting plex anyone bought to avoid grinding or the bad press of late, or the bad word of mouth all those leaving players might spread around It isn't because of Monocles FFS. |
Pajama Sam
SniggWaffe FREE KARTTOON NOW
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:43:00 -
[146]
well ****
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BBJ Shepard
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:43:00 -
[147]
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa hi )0) \0/ (0( |
Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:43:00 -
[148]
WTS
ONE ENTIRE SANDBOX PLAYERBASE FIRESALE, GOING CHEAP
ANY TAKERS?
------------------------------------------------- Play with the best - die like the rest starwreck.com - support the cause :) |
Cpt Xao
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:43:00 -
[149]
Stop play with EvE Online
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Glarion Garnier
Thermal reaction
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:43:00 -
[150]
And if the mail was fabricated and all this I quit postings by alts here a systematic attempt to destroy eve by a competing company. Hmm it would seem to be working well. _________________________________ -be vary of the men behind the curtain-
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Kfar Rahuq
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:43:00 -
[151]
Yeah, I played during 2006, quit in 2007, and came back almost a month ago...but now...I'm extremely unhappy where this game is heading and will have to cancel my subscription until things change DRASTICALLY.
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brad89
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:43:00 -
[152]
CCP weren't careful enough to listen to the player base so MEANWHILE IN ICELAND
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Lili Lu
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:43:00 -
[153]
Originally by: Angel HUN Edited by: Angel HUN on 25/06/2011 02:29:05 sent by hilmar to ccp global list-
. . . Only a few weeks ago we revealed more information about DUST 514 and now we have done it again by committing to our core purpose as a company by redefining assumptions. After 40 hours we have already sold 52 monocles, generating more revenue than any of the other items in the store.
This we have done after months of research by a group of highly competent professionals, soliciting input and perspective from thought leaders and experts in and around our industry. We have communicated our intention here internally in very wide circles through the Virtual Economy Summit presentation at the GSM, our Fearless newsletter, sprint reviews, email lists and multiple other channels. This should not come as a surprise to anyone.
Currently we are seeing _very predictable feedback_ on what we are doing. Having the perspective of having done this for a decade, I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say. Innovation takes time to set in and the predictable reaction is always to resist change.
We went out with a decisive strategy on pricing and we will stay the course and not flip flop around or knee jerk react to the predictable. That is not saying nothing will change, on the contrary, in fact we know that success in this space is through learning and adapting to _what is actually happening_ and new knowledge gained in addition to what we knew before and expected.
All that said, I couldnGÇÖt be prouder of what we have accomplished as a company, changing the world is hard and we are doing it as so many times before! Stay the course, we have done this many times before.
52 monocles 0.o Must be good times in the bunker Seen many times but this script is gold |
Yoa Loother
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:43:00 -
[154]
If this is genuine, then even Hillmar doesn¦t understand EVE anymore.
Talking in the only language he (& his drinking buddies) understands is the only option.
UNSUB!
_ .. darn |
Benri Konpaku
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:44:00 -
[155]
Originally by: Llambda It has to be fake.
What happens if it isn't? After all that's what many thought about the newsletter. |
Umega
Solis Mensa
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:44:00 -
[156]
Edited by: Umega on 25/06/2011 02:44:00 Huh..
A real life company is offering a product, wants to make money off it, and is making money off it.
That is.. that is jus' so strange and alarming.
Well then.. everyone hurry up and leave, no need to post anymore. Time to run off to.. uhm..
Oh.. look. almost every single MMO is MT driven far worse than EVE. I guess you're all stuck with the console genre of games. Have fun with that.. whats that cost, 40-50 bucks a pop couple times a month? Cooool.
I'm glad you all think a lot.. EVE playerbase could use a lot less dumbdumb. ---------------------------------------- Treat the EVE markets like you are its Pimp.. it is your 'willing' employee to fondle n use n abuse as you please. |
Laqua
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:44:00 -
[157]
For those about to die, we salute you.
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Nuramori
Amarr Drama Llamas
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:44:00 -
[158]
"but we have also defined what it really means to make virtual reality more meaningful than real life"
Anyone that takes playing eve to be more meaningful than real life needs therapy.
That applies to any player that's gotten in too deep or a CEO that's pretentious enough to think their product is better than real life.
So they really think they've invented Second Life, the space edition.
Lol. I'll play out my remaining months of a yearly subscription, if only to work with the friends I've made in eve and coordinate what we move on to.
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Ayieka
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:44:00 -
[159]
Originally by: Glarion Garnier And if the mail was fabricated and all this I quit postings by alts here a systematic attempt to destroy eve by a competing company. Hmm it would seem to be working well.
its EA and Infinity Ward, they got scared by Dust and now they're trying to BLOW UP ICELAND.
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Cailais
Amarr Dawn of a new Empire The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:45:00 -
[160]
Its been a lot of fun flying with you folks.
Im off to bed. See you around.
C.
'GREED IS GOOD' - CCP 2011 (ಠ_O)
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Manos Heimenbarger
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:45:00 -
[161]
So what game is everyone going to?
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diaufop
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:45:00 -
[162]
As was brought up on the EVE Radio broadcast, I too have some sympathy for the 600+ people that are going to lose their jobs within a year once the subscription cancellations hit home and the company crashes and burns.
But c'est la vie.
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Ingvar Angst
Amarr Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:45:00 -
[163]
Anyone recall how many Sparkle Ponies WoW sold when they first introduced?
Let's compare "successes"...
FREE Helicity and Niang! |
Casiella Truza
Ecliptic Rift
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:45:00 -
[164]
You want to see what we do, not what we say? Fine.
Check your account management metrics. Right here, 9 accounts, NEVER COMING BACK.
--
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MaiLina KaTar
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:45:00 -
[165]
Edited by: MaiLina KaTar on 25/06/2011 02:45:45 Now that's what you call a kill-mail, b*es! Hahahaha!
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Iamien
Democracy of Klingon Brothers
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:45:00 -
[166]
Originally by: Benri Konpaku
Originally by: Llambda It has to be fake.
What happens if it isn't? After all that's what many thought about the newsletter.
It's from the same source of the newsletter says many of those in-the-know that are on the eve-radio show now.
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Kith'rahl Miromme
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:45:00 -
[167]
Confirming the biomassing of me, Juggleknot, and Lenny Breenko.
Also, confirming I will put every effort from this point on to dissuade people from using CCP products, or anyone aifiliated with them.
Take care, best community in gaming
To the devs that still care, hope you land a job making 10x what you make now, you are wonderful.
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Skyy
Caldari Sigillum Militum Xpisti Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:46:00 -
[168]
I've been playing this game over 7 years and are you honestly going to tell me the epic goal of your game was to sell monocles? That seems to be all you are really driving home to your coworkers... THAT is your example of success? Reality check, mmorpgs have been buying/selling this stuff for decades. You are not the pioneers here... in fact you are the lame ducks who are following standards instead of setting standards... the reason we all loved Eve. Now, you fart around in your $1000 jeans and think you're God.
I hope someone takes a **** on your chest and smashes it with a tennis racket... you piece of ****.
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brad89
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:46:00 -
[169]
Edited by: brad89 on 25/06/2011 02:46:09
Originally by: Umega Edited by: Umega on 25/06/2011 02:44:00 Huh..
A real life company is offering a product, wants to make money off it, and is making money off it.
That is.. that is jus' so strange and alarming.
Well then.. everyone hurry up and leave, no need to post anymore. Time to run off to.. uhm..
Oh.. look. almost every single MMO is MT driven far worse than EVE. I guess you're all stuck with the console genre of games. Have fun with that.. whats that cost, 40-50 bucks a pop couple times a month? Cooool.
I'm glad you all think a lot.. EVE playerbase could use a lot less dumbdumb.
True CCP need to make money however EVE has been running well for 8 years I doubt the NeX is required to keep it that way. EVE was successful because it offered something different.
EDIT: fixed a typo
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Bek Fanboi
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:46:00 -
[170]
A giant CCP
F U C K
Y O U
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Arianna Satellizer
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:46:00 -
[171]
to those who would leave pls dont forget my name among those who:
WANTS YUOR STUFFS pls ^^
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Katra Novac
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:46:00 -
[172]
Edited by: Katra Novac on 25/06/2011 02:46:15
Originally by: bryanbc Stop *****ing like 10 year olds and dont buy the ****
You're acting like a 10 year old, you obviously have no real understanding of what's actually going on.
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Perrin A
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:46:00 -
[173]
+1 another account unsubbed, guess I won't make it to my 4th fanfest next year
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G 0 D
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:46:00 -
[174]
Game Over.
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COMEATMEBRO IMHERE
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:47:00 -
[175]
Originally by: Katra Novac Edited by: Katra Novac on 25/06/2011 02:46:15
Originally by: bryanbc Stop *****ing like 10 year olds and dont buy the ****
You're acting like a 10 year old, you obviously have no real understanding of what's actually going on.
quoting for irony
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Pat Morrison
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:47:00 -
[176]
And so it begins...the great ****storm of our time.
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Joe Skellington
Minmatar Caldari Elite Force Apocalypse Now.
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:47:00 -
[177]
"After 40 hours we have already sold 52 monocles, generating more revenue than any of the other items in the store."
Sheesh, wtf?
--
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Ash Audanie
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:47:00 -
[178]
Quote: Game Over.
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Mystical Might
Amarr The Imperial Fedaykin
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:47:00 -
[179]
Can I have your stuff? WIll purchase all super and titan alts for 1 isk a unit. Will accept assets and isk on this character. Feel free to donate as a "Fuu You CCP" Leaving message.
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Cpt Wrongway
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:48:00 -
[180]
I truly hope this is a fake, but as with what I've seen recently of CCP, it could very easily be real. This is the norm though for when people are blinded by GREED. I wonder if CCP still remembers what it means to "love the work you do"...
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Llambda
Space Llama Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:48:00 -
[181]
Originally by: Benri Konpaku
Originally by: Llambda It has to be fake.
What happens if it isn't? After all that's what many thought about the newsletter.
I don't know. I really don't. Bear in mind that my assertion of its certain fakiness is based solely on my belief that nobody could possibly be this stupid, and not on any actual evidence.
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Diomedes Calypso
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:48:00 -
[182]
lol,,
FAKE!
there is no way in hell a game company president could be proud of an avatar that is locked in a room and moves very slowly and with very little player ablity to have it express desired emotions or shoot anything or anything,
...could he?
I'd like to see some leeked emails from Developers at EA on how impressed they were with the Captains Quartes (I could be wrong.. i'm never ceased to be amazed and beuaty can be in the eye of the beholder)
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democrities
Zebra Corp BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:48:00 -
[183]
Guys, this is obviously fake. Stall your anger and think critically for a moment,
"All that said, I couldnGÇÖt be prouder of what we have accomplished as a company, changing the world is hard and we are doing it as so many times before! Stay the course, we have done this many times before. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"
really? A computer game changing the world? Folks, no one is that grandiose. It would be absolutely nonsensical, even in the sense of meaning the world of MMOs, as Microtransactions are hardly an innovation originated by CCP.
Folks, the email is an obvious fake.
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CAPTAIN INSAINO
Black Lance
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:48:00 -
[184]
"I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say"
wow just wow... so all those fanfests making it about the players, what was that? :( |
Darko Decay
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:49:00 -
[185]
I dont care about vanity items. What I care about is people getting performance items. Monocles don't matter to me, I hope they sell a billion dollars worth. The fact that they wont respond to the constant questions about performance items including guns and ammo speaks volumes as to where they are going.
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Tosser Galore
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:49:00 -
[186]
Selling the sand in the sandbox back to a new player base.
Someone has bought the farm.
http://socialtimes.com/virtual-goods-summit-5-experts-discuss-measuring-the-health-of-your-virtual-economy_b25438
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RougeOperator
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:49:00 -
[187]
Originally by: Iamien
Originally by: Benri Konpaku
Originally by: Llambda It has to be fake.
What happens if it isn't? After all that's what many thought about the newsletter.
It's from the same source of the newsletter says many of those in-the-know that are on the eve-radio show now.
Same source of the newsletter! Then i say its legit.
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SilentSkills
Gallente Tax Evaders Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:49:00 -
[188]
Originally by: Bek Fanboi A giant CCP
F U C K
Y O U
MonocleMonocle
The door thread - http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID |
Megnamon
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:49:00 -
[189]
Wow, talk about a bunch of whiners lol. Ummm... point of game is to make cash for investors. Perspective here people, can I haz ur stuff?
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Caiden Baxter
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:49:00 -
[190]
Damn......Thats what you call a headshot.
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Vixorz
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:49:00 -
[191]
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Talsha Talamar
Amarr Nebula Rasa Holdings Nebula Rasa
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:50:00 -
[192]
Edited by: Talsha Talamar on 25/06/2011 02:51:08
Funny thing is, that it does not matter if this email is real or not.
What matters is the fact that after the last devblog everyone is ready to believe that it is.
That is the level of trust we players have left for CCP.
None.
Its a long and stoney way upwards from here.
Sandbox or Death! |
Captain Megadeath
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:50:00 -
[193]
Originally by: democrities Guys, this is obviously fake. Stall your anger and think critically for a moment,
"All that said, I couldnGÇÖt be prouder of what we have accomplished as a company, changing the world is hard and we are doing it as so many times before! Stay the course, we have done this many times before. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"
really? A computer game changing the world? Folks, no one is that grandiose. It would be absolutely nonsensical, even in the sense of meaning the world of MMOs, as Microtransactions are hardly an innovation originated by CCP.
Folks, the email is an obvious fake.
really?????
Watch his speach at fanfest re. plex for good etc.
its all there.
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Arianna Satellizer
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:50:00 -
[194]
Originally by: Mystical Might Can I have your stuff? WIll purchase all super and titan alts for 1 isk a unit. Will accept assets and isk on this character. Feel free to donate as a "Fuu You CCP" Leaving message.
SHOO!!!! I was here first!!!
All of your stuff will be used to further propagate your cause against monocles!!!
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Jaya
Caldari Brothers At Arms Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:50:00 -
[195]
As a player since 04, this is a sad day indeed. This may be the end for me. Ironic this is all happening the day they annonce SWG is shutting down.
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Nor Tzestu
Amarr Defensores Fidei Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:51:00 -
[196]
Originally by: Megnamon Wow, talk about a bunch of whiners lol. Ummm... point of game is to make cash for investors. Perspective here people, can I haz ur stuff?
Of course you can't. I has dibs. And your a dirty ginger.
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Perramas
Caldari Pan Caldarian Ventures
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:51:00 -
[197]
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Oma Saissore
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:51:00 -
[198]
"That is not saying nothing will change, on the contrary, in fact we know that success in this space is through learning and adapting to _what is actually happening_ and new knowledge gained in addition to what we knew before and expected."
This is a hopeful note.
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Ito Eto
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:51:00 -
[199]
I't like watching the NC cascade, but even dumber.
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Smoke Adian
Caldari League of Gentlemen
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:52:00 -
[200]
-2 more. There really is no hope now.
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Reed Tiburon
Caldari Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:52:00 -
[201]
I'm out. ---
R.I.P.
EVE ONLINE ht |
Sha Dar
eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:53:00 -
[202]
I'll await a confirmation/denial fora few days, and then it's -4 accounts from me. |
Don Pellegrino
Pod Liberation Authority HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:53:00 -
[203]
sigh, this is really the end. ____________________________________________
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Galamia
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:53:00 -
[204]
Originally by: Kith'rahl Miromme ...confirming I will put every effort from this point on to dissuade people from using CCP products, or anyone aifiliated with them.
Take care, best community in gaming!
Seconding this, and confirming biomass and 2x unsub as well. "I've never heard of you, either." |
Mr Kidd
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:53:00 -
[205]
Originally by: Vivienne Amora Guys calm down. This was a very standard corporate message sent to keep the troops in check. What is going on in the top boardrooms and what is being discussed is probably very different.
Also note that the version of the email posted here is missing the timestamp. It was sent late yesterday evening - therefore anything that came today supercedes it, and everything that comes tomorrow does so too.
Hilmar also stated very clearly that he would pay attention more to what the players DO (i.e. NOT buying monacles) as opposed to what players SAY (the number of trolling posts is uncountable).
Once things calm down a little more and CCP folks have enough of a chance to see the valid points being made behind the anger, I am sure they will address it.
Remember your anger is at the possibly bleak future that microtransactions would introduce where MT would ruin the game experience as opposed to just being purely vanity related. VANITY is what they have addressed, and so VANITY is what they know. Give CCP a chance to catch up :)
You only need to examine this http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/CCP-Games-Reviews-E159347.htm to figure out that there is no communication from the top. It's a theme review after review.
Quote: Fun game play is not a priority, promises made to investors and aesthetics are. æIf it looks good then it is goodÆ is an often heard motto. CCP is committed to use technology in EVE as well as WoD and DUST, so certain features are made and used in EVE knowing they will not be fun, nor fit EVE and no one expects them to be appreciated by the playerbase. Alienating the playerbase of EVE further. Objections from employees who point this out are waved away.
The writing is on the wall, in the email, in the newsletter, in the devblogs, in the forum responses. How many more places do you need it? Almost everything CCP has said to date in response to the player furor has been inflammatory. There is only one reason for that. They're attempting to communicate to us but, only to hold the corporate line from on high. They're not actually having a discussion with us. I'm sure you've noticed.
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Tel'Kar'Tir
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:53:00 -
[206]
The Jokes on CCP The plexes used to but those items were likely never going to be used and bought years ago. They made no profit.
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Ivanna Nuke
Gallente Holders Of The Cowbell
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:53:00 -
[207]
The Game.
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Goatse Girl
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:53:00 -
[208]
Edited by: Goatse Girl on 25/06/2011 02:53:42 www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/CCP-Games-Reviews-E159347.htm
Look how bad it is to work at CCP
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Killitt
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:53:00 -
[209]
Edited by: Killitt on 25/06/2011 02:57:22 This is sony. This is how sony operates... and ccp is crawling up there asses as fast as they can.
3 subs dropped. Same reasons i quit s.w.g....
edited for spelling.
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Catrisane
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:53:00 -
[210]
Originally by: Jaya As a player since 04, this is a sad day indeed. This may be the end for me. Ironic this is all happening the day they annonce SWG is shutting down.
SOE finally found someone to pass the torch of failure to...thier work is done. |
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Judicator Saturnius
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:53:00 -
[211]
Originally by: Reed Tiburon
I'm out.
This.
vOv
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Ladie Scarlet
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:54:00 -
[212]
Originally by: Megnamon Wow, talk about a bunch of whiners lol. Ummm... point of game is to make cash for investors. Perspective here people, can I haz ur stuff?
Look at you not knowing what you're talking about.
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Krell Kroenen
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:54:00 -
[213]
It just gets better and better...
Well according to this they don't care what we say, but what we do.. well I just unsubscribed 3 accounts.
Guess time will tell.
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Cronus Zontanos
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:54:00 -
[214]
In terms of its possible fakiness, if anyone is listening to the eve radio interviews, multiple CSM members and a former employee all agree it sounds like Hilmar wrote it. Also, it was given to one of the people on the show by the same person who gave the newsletter out. So far, all signs point to real...
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Mirime Nolwe
APOCALYPSE LEGION
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:55:00 -
[215]
Edited by: Mirime Nolwe on 25/06/2011 02:56:01 Guys, can you all let the "emotion" and be real for a moment? Hilmar is right and the game will go on, only a little part of the playerbase use the forum and eve related websites, most of the players dont have a clue what happening and dont even care if Expansion X ou Y focus on PVP or Clown outfits. Just a little example, as i loged today and from the channels i use (70/80 max population) only 4/5 was aware of this crap.
My 2 accounts are unsubed (alt already inactive) and i dont approve what CCP is doing, so i feel the same frustration of you all. CCP is too arrogant at the moment to deserve my money, but does it make any difference? Probably not. It's only 15Ç i save to other hobby.
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noonien shakra
Lar B523610-9
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:55:00 -
[216]
All a/c's will not be re-sub .... a sad day __________________ I knew this would happen ! |
Langoss
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:56:00 -
[217]
Angel HUN is a hero. But unfortunately they will ban him/her for this.
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Jovan Geldon
Gallente Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:56:00 -
[218]
Edited by: Jovan Geldon on 25/06/2011 02:59:20
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Warwick Bentley
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:56:00 -
[219]
You have failed me for the last time Hilmar.
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Dutarro
Matari Munitions
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:57:00 -
[220]
Over the years, you guys kept always putting out the message that in EVE we have to roll with the punches, as players griefed us, ganked us, etc. Don't give up .. learn from the experience and get tougher for it. I've been trying to take that to heart and learn to be adaptable ... the EVE community has some very un-nice players in it. One can cry and complain, or adapt, and it's a good lesson that to adapt is the right path.
Now, it seems like you all have forgotten your own rhetoric. CCP management is doing something you don't like, and you're all ready to give up at the drop of a hat. If your gameplay in EVE is really something you value, then you should stand and fight for it. Whatever CCP does, we all know that most of what makes EVE work is the player community .. politics, economy, etc. So a few rich bastards buy SP for real dollars (maybe) ... so what?? will they even know what to do with it?
If you collectively decide that EVE should succeed and be a rich, enjoyable game, then it will be, in spite of whatever shenannigans go on at CCP. If you want EVE to be your ideal MMO, stop complaining and start playing it like it IS the ideal MMO.
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Nuramori
Amarr Drama Llamas
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:57:00 -
[221]
Originally by: Lilliana Stelles Oh wow, FIFTY whole monocles. That'll buy you 1/10th of a company car. Or give one person a small raise. Or go buy yourself a 3D TV. I'm glad they're happy.
If I were corporate, I'd be much happier with 50,000 small sales. You know, affordable items.
Dude.
That's almost four pairs of jeans.
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Rumple Fourskin
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:57:00 -
[222]
Originally by: Mirime Nolwe Guys, can you all let the "emotion" and be real for a moment? Hilmar is right and the game will go on, only a little part of the playerbase use the forum and eve related websites, most of the players dont have a clue what happening and dont even care if Expansion X ou Y focus on PVP or Clown outfits. Just a little example, as i loged today and from the channels i use (70/80 max population) only 4/5 was aware of this crap.
My 2 accounts are unsubed (alt already inactive) and i dont approve what CCP is doing, so i feel the same frustration of you all. CCP is too arrogant at the moment to deserve my money, but does it make any difference? Probably not. It's only 15Ç i save to other hobby.
Well on the flip side there are a bizzilion video games to be played so I dont feel some huge loss not playing. I'll just move on to something else. The hobby is gaming and internet spaceships has a place in that but the hobby is gaming.
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Kerrisone
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:57:00 -
[223]
Originally by: Tel'Kar'Tir The Jokes on CCP The plexes used to but those items were likely never going to be used and bought years ago. They made no profit.
They got their $ when the plex were made after that they win if they don't have to give you anything for them which is what a pixelated monacle is nothing. Removing plex means 1 less plex in game and 1 less plex someone else can use and therefore must be bought with $ again to be replaced. CCP 'wins' they rigged the system to make sure they won. It isn't because of Monocles FFS. |
Pat Morrison
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:57:00 -
[224]
Sounds familiar:
At first, SOE's official line about the outcry was "Some gamers hate change"; then, later, "It's a small minority."
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Darveses
Fantastulousification Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:57:00 -
[225]
If this is legit ... just wow. I don't really know what else to say, what other accounts to cancel.
This is just sad.
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Caldari Acolyte
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:57:00 -
[226]
Originally by: oldmanst4r i have canceled my subscription and am awaiting the impending release of Guild Wars 2. I have also begun the biomassing process on all my characters. How's that for doing something.
Yep Yep Prolly doing same, Guild Wars 2 will be game of the year, easy to leave Eve BaBye!
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Sishen Gzi
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:58:00 -
[227]
Can I haz yours stuffs?
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Syncs Alt
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:58:00 -
[228]
Feel free to send me your isk. Honest to god it wont go on the NeX store. Though I will happily use it to gank every Gold ship I see. Damn i'm an alt. I must totally live in Jita, better offer double your isk back in local then. |
Ebisou
Origin.
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:58:00 -
[229]
Quote ....but we have also defined what it really means to make virtual reality more meaningful than real life when it comes to launching our new virtual goods currency, Aurum.
Currently we are seeing _very predictable feedback_ on what we are doing. Having the perspective of having done this for a decade, I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say. Innovation takes time to set in and the predictable reaction is always to resist change.
End quote
Quoted what I found important there.
1st Hilmar has lost touch with whats real and what is virtual reality.
2nd Actions speak louder than a threadnaught, this account has 20 something hours on it before it expires, I will not be updating my cc info to renew till Hilmar says something intelligent that promises not to mess up our sandbox.
We don't want shortcuts in Eve, if we did we wouldn't have complained about bots, we wouldn't have protested plex to remap, etc...
-Ebi
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Benri Konpaku
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:59:00 -
[230]
Originally by: Talsha Talamar Edited by: Talsha Talamar on 25/06/2011 02:51:08
Funny thing is, that it does not matter if this email is real or not.
What matters is the fact that after the last devblog everyone is ready to believe that it is.
That is the level of trust we players have left for CCP.
None.
Its a long and stoney way upwards from here.
This is pretty much it. No one really cares about Monocles and painted ships (even if trolls and dev alts want to keep pretending that's the cause), it's about the betrayal of the trust players placed on CCP to uphold the deal we had. They would keep EVE running and well maintained, we would be giving them money in return.
And it all worked well until they started to bleed EVE to fund the white elephants the higher ups wanted to see. But maybe they can get enough new blood and sell enough monocles to fill in for all the accounts they will lose because of this. |
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Mirime Nolwe
APOCALYPSE LEGION
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:00:00 -
[231]
Originally by: Rumple Fourskin
Originally by: Mirime Nolwe Guys, can you all let the "emotion" and be real for a moment? Hilmar is right and the game will go on, only a little part of the playerbase use the forum and eve related websites, most of the players dont have a clue what happening and dont even care if Expansion X ou Y focus on PVP or Clown outfits. Just a little example, as i loged today and from the channels i use (70/80 max population) only 4/5 was aware of this crap.
My 2 accounts are unsubed (alt already inactive) and i dont approve what CCP is doing, so i feel the same frustration of you all. CCP is too arrogant at the moment to deserve my money, but does it make any difference? Probably not. It's only 15Ç i save to other hobby.
Well on the flip side there are a bizzilion video games to be played so I dont feel some huge loss not playing. I'll just move on to something else. The hobby is gaming and internet spaceships has a place in that but the hobby is gaming.
Yes i agree, i was talking on making a difference on CCP side, probably if people are true and honest about what being said only 1000/1500 accounts max will go inactive, its not enough to make any impact.
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Bklyn 1
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:00:00 -
[232]
Originally by: Warwick Bentley You have failed me for the last time Hilmar.
+10
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Quacka
Minmatar Dark Tree Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:00:00 -
[233]
This is better than the entire season of game of thrones. So many twists and turns lol.
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Supadupadave
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:00:00 -
[234]
Account unsubscribed. Stay this $%&*ing course.!
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Kern Hotha
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:01:00 -
[235]
I'd really like to hear from someone at CCP that this e-mail is fake. --- "The data does not support that polished quality sells better than new features." -Nathan Richardsson, Senior Producer at CCP |
Darveses
Fantastulousification Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:01:00 -
[236]
Originally by: Kern Hotha I'd really like to hear from someone at CCP that this e-mail is fake.
This. So much this.
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Austherus Sialomaet
Amarr Secluded Stronghold Order
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:02:00 -
[237]
lol...
He is so full of himself...
"We are the gods of gaming, we changed the world, these players are worthless kids, let them cry, we own their minds and pockets!!!"
After ccp dies, this guy will be jobless forever...
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Jefferson H Clay
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:02:00 -
[238]
CCP. I know someone is awake & monitoring the forums. Be it Atlanta, Iceland on nights or China.
DIAL THE ****ING BAT PHONE.
The game, not the forums just caught ****ing fire.
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:02:00 -
[239]
Oh god here we go again. The rabbit hole has no bottom.
- "When I nerf something, it takes 2-3 months for your dreams to be crushed." - CCP Big Dumb Object |
von Diel
Gallente The Tuskers
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:03:00 -
[240]
Originally by: Nuramori
Originally by: Lilliana Stelles Oh wow, FIFTY whole monocles. That'll buy you 1/10th of a company car. Or give one person a small raise. Or go buy yourself a 3D TV. I'm glad they're happy.
If I were corporate, I'd be much happier with 50,000 small sales. You know, affordable items.
Dude.
That's almost four pairs of jeans.
<3
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KoffeeKup
Caldari Azule Dragoons Sspectre
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:03:00 -
[241]
Edited by: KoffeeKup on 25/06/2011 03:03:36 CCP I can't believe you. You have become everything you wanted to fight against.
I guess Neitzche was right. "Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes into you."
Great job CCP, your a monster. Thanks, Hilmar. I thought you would have something to say but obviously your the one behind it all.
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Iamien
Democracy of Klingon Brothers
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:03:00 -
[242]
AT least Angel HUN won't have to bother unsubscribing. They are banned. __________
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Dmoney3788
Black Aces Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:03:00 -
[243]
Originally by: Dutarro Over the years, you guys kept always putting out the message that in EVE we have to roll with the punches, as players griefed us, ganked us, etc. Don't give up .. learn from the experience and get tougher for it. I've been trying to take that to heart and learn to be adaptable ... the EVE community has some very un-nice players in it. One can cry and complain, or adapt, and it's a good lesson that to adapt is the right path.
Now, it seems like you all have forgotten your own rhetoric. CCP management is doing something you don't like, and you're all ready to give up at the drop of a hat. If your gameplay in EVE is really something you value, then you should stand and fight for it. Whatever CCP does, we all know that most of what makes EVE work is the player community .. politics, economy, etc. So a few rich bastards buy SP for real dollars (maybe) ... so what?? will they even know what to do with it?
If you collectively decide that EVE should succeed and be a rich, enjoyable game, then it will be, in spite of whatever shenannigans go on at CCP. If you want EVE to be your ideal MMO, stop complaining and start playing it like it IS the ideal MMO.
what a ***got
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:03:00 -
[244]
On one hand, I'm thinking he couldn't possibly be this ****ing stupid. Surely? On the other, this fits so well with CCP official response today (Zulu's devblog). ... If you like choice please support this topic in the Assembly Hall. Thanks.
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Satallius
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:04:00 -
[245]
If alot of you are quitting, and I am not trying to be fascecious, or trollish, but could anyone be so kind as to toss some ISK my way? Thank you in advance if you do.
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LordMordred
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:04:00 -
[246]
Just when you thought things couldn't get any worse... our white knight Hilmar sinks the boat with his completely dismissive attitude towards our player rage.
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Rumple Fourskin
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:05:00 -
[247]
Originally by: Mirime Nolwe
Yes i agree, i was talking on making a difference on CCP side, probably if people are true and honest about what being said only 1000/1500 accounts max will go inactive, its not enough to make any impact.
Well I dont feel like I am going to destroy a company thats not the intent. The intent is to spend my money playing games the way i want to play them. CCP should make tons of money. My girlfriend is the mod on one of those facebook games. She can see how much money people spend. Some of them have spent 6 to 15 THOUSAND on the damn game. That's what ccp wants a chunk of. I just don't want to play against some imbecile freak addict who spent 15k on eve.
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Mechanoid Kryten
Humble Origins Red Dwarf Racketeering Division
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:06:00 -
[248]
wow.
a game called "eve" will endure but it won't be the sandbox i first subscribed to.
-2 hulks here and -1 fan-fest attendee. keep it up and get -2 more.
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Cherry Miranda
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:06:00 -
[249]
Originally by: TheWangofChuck D How is Dust514 going to interact with a game that doesn't have a playerbase anymore?
That is a rather interesting question.
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RougeOperator
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:06:00 -
[250]
Edited by: RougeOperator on 25/06/2011 03:07:03 That idiot is happy with a one time injection of almost 4000 dollars that may never occur again, at the cost of 12000 recurring that you can set your watch by every month.
Wow dude, how did you graduate college.
I bet those 52 monocles were CCP staff and they didnt make any actual money.
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Katra Novac
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:07:00 -
[251]
Originally by: Dutarro Over the years, you guys kept always putting out the message that in EVE we have to roll with the punches, as players griefed us, ganked us, etc. Don't give up .. learn from the experience and get tougher for it. I've been trying to take that to heart and learn to be adaptable ... the EVE community has some very un-nice players in it. One can cry and complain, or adapt, and it's a good lesson that to adapt is the right path.
Now, it seems like you all have forgotten your own rhetoric. CCP management is doing something you don't like, and you're all ready to give up at the drop of a hat. If your gameplay in EVE is really something you value, then you should stand and fight for it. Whatever CCP does, we all know that most of what makes EVE work is the player community .. politics, economy, etc. So a few rich bastards buy SP for real dollars (maybe) ... so what?? will they even know what to do with it?
If you collectively decide that EVE should succeed and be a rich, enjoyable game, then it will be, in spite of whatever shenannigans go on at CCP. If you want EVE to be your ideal MMO, stop complaining and start playing it like it IS the ideal MMO.
Another one that does not really understand what all this is about.
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Val'Dore
Word Bearers of Chaos Word of Chaos Undivided
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:07:00 -
[252]
Not sure what to think, but my seven years here is looking worse for wear...
~No matter what happens, somebody will find a way to take it too seriously.~
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Amitious Turkey
Gallente TarNec
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:07:00 -
[253]
If this is true, then they should take a look at how many people have unsubbed. 4000 measly bucks won't cover that (over time) even if it's only a small portion of the playerbase. Or maybe they think everyone and their dog will want a $60 monocle because it's "innovative."
I'm going to wait out the storm and see what happens, but if this is true, good God, Eve is going to be horrible a few months from now. Haunting the forums since '03
Originally by: CCP Navigator We love you all as well <3
Originally by: CCP Navigator We have just updated Dodixie. We care a lot for Gallente.
NAVIGATOR <3 |
Nose Snot
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:08:00 -
[254]
Originally by: Mirime Nolwe Guys, can you all let the "emotion" and be real for a moment? Hilmar is right and the game will go on, only a little part of the playerbase use the forum and eve related websites, most of the players dont have a clue what happening and dont even care if Expansion X ou Y focus on PVP or Clown outfits. Just a little example, as i loged today and from the channels i use (70/80 max population) only 4/5 was aware of this crap.
My 2 accounts are unsubed (alt already inactive) and i dont approve what CCP is doing, so i feel the same frustration of you all. CCP is too arrogant at the moment to deserve my money, but does it make any difference? Probably not. It's only 15Ç i save to other hobby.
Everyone that doesn't know is learning very quick. This isn't just isolated here, but also on a ton of other boards... alliance boards... corp boards... fan boards... even everywhere in-game. Frankly, if people want to spend this kind of cash for virtual crap that in fact is still OWNED by CCP and will always be CCP property, well... that's their ******edness. I'm quitting because it's clear the business and greed of this company outweighs the value of the games integrity and what it was based on from the start. Peace out CCP.
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Darveses
Fantastulousification Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:08:00 -
[255]
Originally by: Cherry Miranda
Originally by: TheWangofChuck D How is Dust514 going to interact with a game that doesn't have a playerbase anymore?
That is a rather interesting question.
EVE was said to work without DUST, and DUST without EVE.
Cheerio.
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RougeOperator
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:08:00 -
[256]
Originally by: Katra Novac
Originally by: Dutarro Over the years, you guys kept always putting out the message that in EVE we have to roll with the punches, as players griefed us, ganked us, etc. Don't give up .. learn from the experience and get tougher for it. I've been trying to take that to heart and learn to be adaptable ... the EVE community has some very un-nice players in it. One can cry and complain, or adapt, and it's a good lesson that to adapt is the right path.
Now, it seems like you all have forgotten your own rhetoric. CCP management is doing something you don't like, and you're all ready to give up at the drop of a hat. If your gameplay in EVE is really something you value, then you should stand and fight for it. Whatever CCP does, we all know that most of what makes EVE work is the player community .. politics, economy, etc. So a few rich bastards buy SP for real dollars (maybe) ... so what?? will they even know what to do with it?
If you collectively decide that EVE should succeed and be a rich, enjoyable game, then it will be, in spite of whatever shenannigans go on at CCP. If you want EVE to be your ideal MMO, stop complaining and start playing it like it IS the ideal MMO.
Another one that does not really understand what all this is about.
Yeah i dont have to roll with any punches. I shouldn't be getting punched in the first place. Ill take my money elsewhere rather then be abused and mistreated.
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Uraniumslug
Black Aces
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:08:00 -
[257]
The monocolypse has begun.
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Gulliver Rex
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:09:00 -
[258]
I really hope CCP were made 'an offer they cannot refuse'. And engineered all this to wake up the masses. To say f$$$ MMOs and f$$$ their corporate chains. Kids go out and play in the sun.
Anything less, and Bobby Fisher is spinning in his grave.
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Raven God
Texas Inc. THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:09:00 -
[259]
wow this is not the same CCP from 2003.
May be time to unsub the accountz
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Jimlore
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:09:00 -
[260]
the emails clearly fake but whats every1 geting upset for now, plex is allrdy the pay to win item, been out years.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:09:00 -
[261]
>mfw this email
----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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London
Imminent Ruin Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:09:00 -
[262]
Stop being such tools, this looks fake.
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:11:00 -
[263]
Originally by: London Stop being such tools, this looks fake.
Please explain. ... If you like choice please support this topic in the Assembly Hall. Thanks.
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RougeOperator
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:11:00 -
[264]
Originally by: London Stop being such tools, this looks fake.
Originally by: Jimlore the emails clearly fake but whats every1 geting upset for now, plex is allrdy the pay to win item, been out years.
Just like the newsletter was fake?
I believe in the fake email more then CCP right now. Thats how low their credibility is right now.
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Tichu Tilyon
Ordo Drakonis Nulli Tertius
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:11:00 -
[265]
Edited by: Tichu Tilyon on 25/06/2011 03:12:03 If this is legit,
Then they force alot of players to take action including me. We can't realy do much just walk away...
It realy saddens me because I was with EVE from quite a while (2006.03), but I don't want to be part of it anymore, if thats the direction they are takeing. :(
ùùù ôWe want to try this thing called micro-transactions, but we don't know what it is. Can anyone explainà aw screw it, let's just do it! What could go wrong?ö ù ÇÇP |
Vandrion
Gallente The Collective B O R G
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:11:00 -
[266]
Originally by: Angel HUN Edited by: Angel HUN on 25/06/2011 02:29:05 sent by hilmar to ccp global list-
(strt)
I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say. Innovation takes time to set in and the predictable reaction is always to resist change.
(end)
Let me return the sentiment:
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Darveses
Fantastulousification Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:11:00 -
[267]
Originally by: London Stop being such tools, this looks fake.
Fearless looked fake as well, remember?
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leth ghost
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:11:00 -
[268]
Originally by: Ladie Scarlet
Originally by: Megnamon Wow, talk about a bunch of whiners lol. Ummm... point of game is to make cash for investors. Perspective here people, can I haz ur stuff?
Look at you not knowing what you're talking about.
yh op you just made a complete **** of yourself
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pmchem
Minmatar GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:12:00 -
[269]
CEO says that a major expansion had many successful points, and that future actions will be based on data, not knee-jerk reaction in forums.
Players rage.
Um, ok guys.
Vote with your actions, life (and Eve) will continue. Don't like microtransactions? Don't buy the items. Don't like Incarna? Unsub. All the fake-unsubs by sperging bluffers in the forums do nothing to change the future of Eve.
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Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:12:00 -
[270]
Originally by: Koba Kyogen Edited by: Koba Kyogen on 25/06/2011 02:37:44 This legitimate or not?
Verify please.
Koba
edit - if this is real, it's a damn tragedy
It's real.
Been listing to Hilmar for a long time, this is classic him.
If you watch the fanfest video you can see he closes his speech with the same idea of "people are afraid of change".
It's his mantra right now.
His name was John Turbefield! Truth. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc Best brief on the details. FREE HELICITY |
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Cherry Miranda
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:13:00 -
[271]
Edited by: Cherry Miranda on 25/06/2011 03:13:32
Originally by: Darveses
Originally by: Cherry Miranda
Originally by: TheWangofChuck D How is Dust514 going to interact with a game that doesn't have a playerbase anymore?
That is a rather interesting question.
EVE was said to work without DUST, and DUST without EVE.
Cheerio.
DUST influences our broken null sec.
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leth ghost
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:14:00 -
[272]
any one that listened to eve radio heard enough to know it is real as well
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Call Me Death
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:14:00 -
[273]
Originally by: London Stop being such tools, this looks fake.
LOL a quafe t-shirt this made me almost flip off the chair laughing at this asshat.
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Elondris Singh
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:14:00 -
[274]
Edited by: Elondris Singh on 25/06/2011 03:14:13 Good job, guys.
I'll be around until December, you have that long to fix this, which is probably going to involve grovelling. I'm not holding my breath. ____ Even these can't save CCP
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Talsha Talamar
Amarr Nebula Rasa Holdings Nebula Rasa
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:14:00 -
[275]
Originally by: Nose Snot
Originally by: Mirime Nolwe Guys, can you all let the "emotion" and be real for a moment? Hilmar is right and the game will go on, only a little part of the playerbase use the forum and eve related websites, most of the players dont have a clue what happening and dont even care if Expansion X ou Y focus on PVP or Clown outfits. Just a little example, as i loged today and from the channels i use (70/80 max population) only 4/5 was aware of this crap.
My 2 accounts are unsubed (alt already inactive) and i dont approve what CCP is doing, so i feel the same frustration of you all. CCP is too arrogant at the moment to deserve my money, but does it make any difference? Probably not. It's only 15Ç i save to other hobby.
Everyone that doesn't know is learning very quick. This isn't just isolated here, but also on a ton of other boards... alliance boards... corp boards... fan boards... even everywhere in-game. Frankly, if people want to spend this kind of cash for virtual crap that in fact is still OWNED by CCP and will always be CCP property, well... that's their ******edness. I'm quitting because it's clear the business and greed of this company outweighs the value of the games integrity and what it was based on from the start. Peace out CCP.
That and its not about the current playerbase. This is damaging to the companies image as a whole. The subject is allready in the newscycle of the major gaming websites.
60 Euro for a pixel-monnocle, the virtual protests, the leaks, eves history of scandals, all this provides enough hooks for this piece to even get into the general online news cycle.
Even if the short term effect of this on EVE should be minor the mid term effect on EVE and CCP will cost the company dearly.
A price that cannot be counted in monocles.
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Major Stallion
The Dark Horses.
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:14:00 -
[276]
as stated on CEVE...i love you angel :D
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Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:15:00 -
[277]
Originally by: Cherry Miranda Edited by: Cherry Miranda on 25/06/2011 03:13:32
Originally by: Darveses
Originally by: Cherry Miranda
Originally by: TheWangofChuck D How is Dust514 going to interact with a game that doesn't have a playerbase anymore?
That is a rather interesting question.
EVE was said to work without DUST, and DUST without EVE.
Cheerio.
DUST influences our broken null sec.
DUST will likely be release as a quick stand-alone game to help pay CCPs depts as they wind up the company.
They probably won't be able to organise the business side of that though.
His name was John Turbefield! Truth. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc Best brief on the details. FREE HELICITY |
The Geoman
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:15:00 -
[278]
If this email is genuine, it takes the wind out of my sails, to be honest. I've been trying to avoid overreacting to the recent news, figuring that even if things were bad, that there would be a chance to repair things once the reactions were evaluated. This email has the tone and wording of an individual who is not interested in discussing the matter. That's too bad. The damage from this will be very difficult to overcome.
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spackles Ibsol
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:15:00 -
[279]
I must say for myself an my friends, its been a wonderful 6+ years :( I personally am so sad to see CCP treat its customers in this way. But sadly I think this comes form management who are historically always the ones to kill a game. I have 2 months left on my account and I gotta say I will be very sad to walk away, but treating your biggest fans as **** is not a very professional way of running things.
SOE mark 2??
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Dextaris
Autocannons Anonymous
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:15:00 -
[280]
Originally by: RougeOperator
Originally by: Katra Novac
Originally by: Dutarro Over the years, you guys kept always putting out the message that in EVE we have to roll with the punches, as players griefed us, ganked us, etc. Don't give up .. learn from the experience and get tougher for it. I've been trying to take that to heart and learn to be adaptable ... the EVE community has some very un-nice players in it. One can cry and complain, or adapt, and it's a good lesson that to adapt is the right path.
Now, it seems like you all have forgotten your own rhetoric. CCP management is doing something you don't like, and you're all ready to give up at the drop of a hat. If your gameplay in EVE is really something you value, then you should stand and fight for it. Whatever CCP does, we all know that most of what makes EVE work is the player community .. politics, economy, etc. So a few rich bastards buy SP for real dollars (maybe) ... so what?? will they even know what to do with it?
If you collectively decide that EVE should succeed and be a rich, enjoyable game, then it will be, in spite of whatever shenannigans go on at CCP. If you want EVE to be your ideal MMO, stop complaining and start playing it like it IS the ideal MMO.
Another one that does not really understand what all this is about.
Yeah i dont have to roll with any punches. I shouldn't be getting punched in the first place. Ill take my money elsewhere rather then be abused and mistreated.
this
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Rumplefink
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:15:00 -
[281]
The President Of CCP does not care about BLACK PEOPLE!
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Ladie Scarlet
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:16:00 -
[282]
Originally by: Rumplefink The President Of CCP does not care about BLACK PEOPLE!
He is also a holocaust denier.
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Miagi Sans
Amarr PURgE-Corp PURgE Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:16:00 -
[283]
this email stinks of trollery...i find this hard to beleive....at least the fearless letter looked sort of professional....
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Black Dranzer
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:17:00 -
[284]
Originally by: Miagi Sans this email stinks of trollery...i find this hard to beleive....at least the fearless letter looked sort of professional....
How many times do I have to be right before you people learn
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diaufop
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:17:00 -
[285]
Edited by: diaufop on 25/06/2011 03:17:21
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RougeOperator
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:18:00 -
[286]
Edited by: RougeOperator on 25/06/2011 03:18:34
Originally by: Dextaris
Originally by: RougeOperator
Originally by: Katra Novac
Originally by: Dutarro Over the years, you guys kept always putting out the message that in EVE we have to roll with the punches, as players griefed us, ganked us, etc. Don't give up .. learn from the experience and get tougher for it. I've been trying to take that to heart and learn to be adaptable ... the EVE community has some very un-nice players in it. One can cry and complain, or adapt, and it's a good lesson that to adapt is the right path.
Now, it seems like you all have forgotten your own rhetoric. CCP management is doing something you don't like, and you're all ready to give up at the drop of a hat. If your gameplay in EVE is really something you value, then you should stand and fight for it. Whatever CCP does, we all know that most of what makes EVE work is the player community .. politics, economy, etc. So a few rich bastards buy SP for real dollars (maybe) ... so what?? will they even know what to do with it?
If you collectively decide that EVE should succeed and be a rich, enjoyable game, then it will be, in spite of whatever shenannigans go on at CCP. If you want EVE to be your ideal MMO, stop complaining and start playing it like it IS the ideal MMO.
Another one that does not really understand what all this is about.
Yeah i dont have to roll with any punches. I shouldn't be getting punched in the first place. Ill take my money elsewhere rather then be abused and mistreated.
this
I only wish my yearly sub hadnt rolled over on last month I wish i could deny them money. But i wont be re subbing after that.
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Tarisha Vex
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:18:00 -
[287]
I have no doubt this email is real. Hilmar has thrown down the gauntlet to players and said we dont believe you will quit because we are ccp. In my opinion time to show him we the players are Eve not him and CCP and without us they are just another small software house
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Kalissa
Sacred Templars RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:18:00 -
[288]
When I read this a few mins ago, I acually laughed, I honestly didn't know how else to react.
Basically what that mail says is that CCP expected us to be furious and just intends to ignore it and so far 52 people who obviously have far more money than sense have bought these items and that ladies and gentlemen is all CCP give a damn about, the bottom line.
Yeah it's true that not a lot of people compared to the whole playerbase read the forums, but with the amount of word of mouth thats going around I would imagine that you'd have to have been living under a rock wearing a blindfold and have earplugs in your ears not to have at least gotten a whiff of what CCP is planning.
Whats next CCP after Weapons & Ammo, skill points for AUR??
At first CCP from what I heard thought the leak of the newsletter was from the CSM from when they visited, but this clearly shows that there are people at CCP who are very much behind the community and believe that we have a right to know and for that I applaud them.
CCP you really have not just shot yourself in the foot, you've shot yourself in both feet with a god damn 12 gauge!
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Miagi Sans
Amarr PURgE-Corp PURgE Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:18:00 -
[289]
Originally by: Black Dranzer
Originally by: Miagi Sans this email stinks of trollery...i find this hard to beleive....at least the fearless letter looked sort of professional....
How many times do I have to be right before you people learn
oh get off your high horse....a hundred others can claim the same thing...
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Dutarro
Matari Munitions
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Posted - 2011.06.25 03:18:00 -
[290]
Originally by: Katra Novac
Originally by: Dutarro Over the years, you guys kept always putting out the message that in EVE we have to roll with the punches, as players griefed us, ganked us, etc. Don't give up .. learn from the experience and get tougher for it. I've been trying to take that to heart and learn to be adaptable ... the EVE community has some very un-nice players in it. One can cry and complain, or adapt, and it's a good lesson that to adapt is the right path.
Now, it seems like you all have forgotten your own rhetoric. CCP management is doing something you don't like, and you're all ready to give up at the drop of a hat. If your gameplay in EVE is really something you value, then you should stand and fight for it. Whatever CCP does, we all know that most of what makes EVE work is the player community .. politics, economy, etc. So a few rich bastards buy SP for real dollars (maybe) ... so what?? will they even know what to do with it?
If you collectively decide that EVE should succeed and be a rich, enjoyable game, then it will be, in spite of whatever shenannigans go on at CCP. If you want EVE to be your ideal MMO, stop complaining and start playing it like it IS the ideal MMO.
Another one that does not really understand what all this is about.
OK then enlighten us .. what is this about??
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