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Meryl SinGarda
Caldari Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
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Posted - 2011.08.01 21:00:00 -
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Oh snap, I didn't even realize that. The necro strikes again! Who is this dastardly idiot that continues to bring back threads of invalid?! Fly safe, Die hard |
Slavemaster
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Posted - 2011.08.01 21:14:00 -
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... This is getting a bit old, but my opinion as a player on and off since the beginning. As stated this was made by fans of Elite and never was planned to be a multi million company, In fact the servers was never meant to have that many players, and they did upgrade, upgrade etc..
Then.... With money comes greed, and a vision will be polluted by the dream of more, and more money. That is where we are today. When you forget who is playing this game: Its old MMO vets, or mature people.
The Story goes like this: From being the most respected MMO out there, on first place for years. Now, its the joke. The same site that gave EVE its population, is now very sceptical.. CCP lost years of goodwill in days, and will take years if ever to get back on top.
And if CCP still dont understand that nobody wants gold ammo, faction gain +++ To pay for with real money. - Solution is to raise the subscription 1-2 dollars. Most are over the age of 26, and playing EVE a very cheep hobby compared to any sports etc.
I will never play a game that is - Pay to win- That has nothing to with that I cant afford it, but it makes me feel sick.
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Digital Messiah
Gallente Oregami Ultd
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Posted - 2011.08.01 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: Meryl SinGarda Oh snap, I didn't even realize that. The necro strikes again! Who is this dastardly idiot that continues to bring back threads of invalid?!
People don't realize the work around required to simply not give any F***s. I still have my skill plan up and running. And In no way am I effected by CQ, NeX, or MT in general. Sure other people have doodads on their avatars now. But the door actually loads faster than ship spinning, I will never buy NeX items, and I'm ok with content pace so long as it actually comes.
A lot of MMO's only release new content for a strict few mega nerd hardcore players. Which was fine when I was younger and could be that kind of player. Now however I enjoy the gradual pace and progress I can take to accomplish greater goals. This goes without mentioning the fact that I have years ahead of me to experience all the content left in EVE. If anything I don't want new content, I want the old tweaked and fixed proper.
Quote: "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn"
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Jack Tremaine
Caldari 2 Squadron SAAF
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Posted - 2011.08.01 21:18:00 -
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Hmm. After a year away from EVE I was fairly disgusted coming back. OP sums it up nicely.
+1
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Geormike Deninard
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Posted - 2011.08.01 22:47:00 -
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+1
The community lost its faith to CCP because they spent a good 18-month period to develop 1 racial room that has absolutely no good effect in gameplay apart from virtual pleasure, aka eye candy. This was a useless waste of time since EvE Online is all about gameplay, no graphics needed. Plus it introduced microtranscations, which CCP told would never come. This raises the question below:
A lie is a lie. They lied for microtranscations in the past. Why can't they lie about P2W now?
If CCP has lied in the past, they can lie now as well. Thats what trust is all about.
An EVE Online newbie.
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Cunane Jeran
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.08.01 22:59:00 -
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It's the people I fly with and the community that keeps me logging in. A community that in my case has shrunk :(
+1 to the OP.
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Valari Nala Zena
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2011.08.01 23:27:00 -
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Originally by: Fix Lag "We are currently not planning to introduce microtransactions in Eve Online." CCP Shadow, 1 year ago.
"We are currently not planning to introduce gold ammo in Eve Online." CCP Poopnugget, 1 month ago.
They're full of it.
I don't think CCP actually lied about that.
I'm sure they aren't planning it back then, they just started planning the day after the statement.
As for the OP post:
Well said, +1.
As for incarna, i still have hopes it to get interesting once we get people and objects to interact with. This is just an introduction, nothing interesting.
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Cataca
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Posted - 2011.08.01 23:43:00 -
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Originally by: Orthos Soban Oh, c'mo-o-on, people. What makes me sick is that most of players think they are smart enough to keep game developers as a bunch of ******ed morons. I don't think that people who did such a great game don't know what they do. You can be sure, any idea you thinking now about eve with a 99% chance is already known by CCP for long long time.
I don't know exactly what CCP goin to do with eve in future, but words like "Dear CCP, you don't know what you do." makes me only laugh. And speech forms like "Dear CCP, I'm goin out" *Door bang* actually sounds like teenagers wine. Get out, CCP is not your parents, no one cares about you.
I dont get it, do you mean to say you dont trust your own intellect enough that you automatically will assume that a bunch of strangers that got a good game out are surpassing your thinking capability? I mean, you seem to think they are gods, or something bordering on it with almost precognition like abilities to see what changes work and which don't in their game.
Which is good and all, till you review the recent patches where CCP has displayed the incredibly skill and empathy handling the crowd. Like a blind drunken elephant on a unicycle... in a porcelain shop... also the unicycle has a flat tire.
Is this just another sarcastic post im not getting?
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Diondra Reuben
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Posted - 2011.08.02 00:39:00 -
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Edited by: Diondra Reuben on 02/08/2011 00:39:21 No matter how you try to dress it, no matter how you trying the spin it, the following holds true...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_u9Ttw5w6s
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Digital Messiah
Gallente Oregami Ultd
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Posted - 2011.08.02 01:05:00 -
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Originally by: Diondra Reuben Edited by: Diondra Reuben on 02/08/2011 00:39:21 No matter how you try to dress it, no matter how you trying the spin it, the following holds true...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_u9Ttw5w6s
Do the humpty humpty hump?
Quote: "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn"
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Uuali
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Posted - 2011.08.02 02:04:00 -
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OP's message: Couldn't have said it better myself.
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JAYARAMARR
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Posted - 2011.08.02 03:28:00 -
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The Play to Win issue is why I've already cancelled one account and will not be renewing my main account. After almost two years I'm ready to call it quits. I refuse to be the whipping boy for someone who's willing/able to pay lots of money for better toys than everyone else can buy within the Eve economy. Too much drive thru mentality and not enough thought into how to make the game better for everyone. I can see someone paying for lots of accounts, and then paying for mega dangerous ships so they can take over a large part of the Eve galaxy. Once that is done they can hire enough people to be able to defend that space so they can RMT/bot in peace without the rest of the Eve players interferring. Oh wait, someone has already done the first part of that. Fly Safe folks and enjoy the quiet before the Red Storm.
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Max Keitt Keitt
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2011.08.02 03:34:00 -
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+1
I would gladly have paid 19.95/month to keep mt out of Eve. ~+=+~ TQ Power Supplies Learning to PVP |
Diondra Reuben
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Posted - 2011.08.02 03:44:00 -
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Edited by: Diondra Reuben on 02/08/2011 03:44:45
Originally by: JAYARAMARR
I can see someone paying for lots of accounts, and then paying for mega dangerous ships so they can take over a large part of the Eve galaxy. Once that is done they can hire enough people to be able to defend that space so they can RMT/bot in peace without the rest of the Eve players interferring. Oh wait, someone has already done the first part of that.
Am I a 10in slong rider or is this not already being done?
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Tiberius Amzadee
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.08.02 03:56:00 -
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Edited by: Tiberius Amzadee on 02/08/2011 03:59:27 Edited by: Tiberius Amzadee on 02/08/2011 03:58:39 +1 I hate to admit,glepp is right. I love this game so much too. The very least captains quarters and future station content should be optional and vanity items be destructable. I'm still excited about CQ but I spend most of my time in space so walking back and forth between docking and quarters can be rather tedious sometimes. The last two isk I need to let out is my wish for the vanity items to be destructable. If CCP wants to keep the spirit of the game alive,put as much risk of items bought with real money as much as ingame items bought with ISK by making them destructable. That'll shut the snobs up,give a cause for carebears to whine about,give pvpers a onhard for the hunt and still bring more income to the company. There's so much potential still left CCP,please don't throw it away.
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Atropos Kahn
Caldari Imminent Ruin
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Posted - 2011.08.02 04:02:00 -
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3 points for Gryffindor!
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Athena Tarsis
Minmatar Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2011.08.02 04:28:00 -
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Wow.
CCP needs to develop a giant violin shaped ship so I can fly around and play sad, sad songs for people like the OP.
Good grief. --
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Tun Wehsac
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Posted - 2011.08.02 04:36:00 -
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These are all minor flaws compared to crappy module icons
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Garreth Vlox
Minmatar Obsidian Inc.
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Posted - 2011.08.02 04:48:00 -
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+1, OP covers the main issue perfectly. The downside is that hilmar is still in charge and still living in his fantasy world where the only thing that matters is what he says, and he has made it clear that the only player opinions he's interested in hearing are the ones that agree with him that "incarna is the best expansion yet". Until he is removed for the role of CEO eve will continue to slowly decline until it is back where it was 5 years ago, and the worst part is that he just doesn't care. Whether its his ego, ignorance, disconnect from the player base, or just plain old fashion stupidity, its irrelevant at this point because he has convinced himself that he alone knows whats good for a community driven game.
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Lilith Nienmar
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Posted - 2011.08.02 04:55:00 -
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My 0.2 ISK to CCP,
There is no communication happening here, an announcement, something?... Several months into incarna (I am all for WIS) and we have no clue as to what changes will be made to answer the uproar. Is it that hard to add a 'leave pod' button to enter CQ and leave the ship spinning screen? Is it so hard to customize what I see on my TV? (Inventory, market graphs, contracts, Fittings, Personal sheet...) I understand that after so much people *****ing about WIS, and now that you deliver it even more whining happens, it must be frustrating to you. But imagine if your players did not care? Just left the game silently... You are currently relying on the addictiveness of your game to reassure yourself that people will finish by adopting it... and, there is not much competition is there? But don't think for a minute that Eve players are your average MMORPG idiots, for even the most moronic trolls and griefers that thrive in the game would not last a week without a sharp intellect and a strong sense of independence. Maybe you want to focus the game on killing fake targets (all sorts of rats) and strolling around stations, you will have less problematic players, that's for sure, and EVE would have been great for a while.
Put more fix on lag in large fleet battles (I know you already did a lot), give us more content and challenges, hell... tweak mechanics to disadvantage mega blobfests, anything to make the game as we know it a better experience, and don't give us just CQ, OPEN THE DOORS!
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1535011
Don't let the thread die! |
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Tron Flux
Caldari Midnite Madness
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Posted - 2011.08.02 05:37:00 -
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I think CCP knows exactly what they've got: a huge number of people who are playing now just as they did before incarna, and a tiny number of people making noise on an Internet forum about stupid stuff that doesn't matter. If you've ever watched the kind of people that whine on forums, you would realize that this is all very predictable feedback, and none of it matters.
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Toovhon
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Posted - 2011.08.02 06:21:00 -
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Hear! Hear! -- The Door! |
Toovhon
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Posted - 2011.08.02 07:52:00 -
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Originally by: Tron Flux I think CCP knows exactly what they've got: a huge number of people who are playing now just as they did before incarna, and a tiny number of people making noise on an Internet forum about stupid stuff that doesn't matter. If you've ever watched the kind of people that whine on forums, you would realize that this is all very predictable feedback, and none of it matters.
Smells like a CCP alt. -- The Door! |
Misunderstood Genius
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Posted - 2011.08.02 09:56:00 -
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Edited by: Misunderstood Genius on 02/08/2011 09:58:04 Why do people care so much about a space game what has NO value for RL? More worst: if you care too much you will mess up and waste your RL. I just log in, turn CQ off and ignore the NeX-Store. CQ is just 1% of something what will happen in the future and NeX-Store... I don't care. If the game is not delievering the fun I have for years now I will just quit and... don't care. Simple.
And now: back to work. Earning money.
OUT!
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Toovhon
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Posted - 2011.08.02 11:59:00 -
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Originally by: Misunderstood Genius Edited by: Misunderstood Genius on 02/08/2011 09:58:04 Why do people care so much about a space game what has NO value for RL? More worst: if you care too much you will mess up and waste your RL. I just log in, turn CQ off and ignore the NeX-Store. CQ is just 1% of something what will happen in the future and NeX-Store... I don't care. If the game is not delievering the fun I have for years now I will just quit and... don't care. Simple.
And now: back to work. Earning money.
OUT!
Why are you playing a deep and involving MMO if you don't give a crap about it? :-D Not too bright... -- The Door! |
Mors Magne
Astral Adventure
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Posted - 2011.08.02 12:52:00 -
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I don't quite agree - I think the nub of the problem is that 'walking in stations' hasn't really been introduced yet. It looks as if it's taken CCP years to make one room!
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raker
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Posted - 2011.08.03 18:56:00 -
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Originally by: Mors Magne I don't quite agree - I think the nub of the problem is that 'walking in stations' hasn't really been introduced yet. It looks as if it's taken CCP years to make one room!
Imo the problem is that a vast part of the playerbase dont care about Wis
I feel that most would prefere to see the bugs ironed out and new ships added to the game
Its Eve, I feel most don't care what thier char looks like or whether he has the latest jeans or Monocle
What they do care about is whether they can use two accounts at the same time. whether the game will crash if they have a large fleet battle and what new ships and skills are coming out
I dont care if a pilot has a monocle or not, I just want to be sure the game is stable and doesnt crash when I am about to pod him :)
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Mordenn G'Kar
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Posted - 2011.08.03 19:00:00 -
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Edited by: Mordenn G''Kar on 03/08/2011 19:00:35
Originally by: glepp Most game developers would give an arm and a leg for a community that cared this much about their game.
-1
A community that hates everything about their "favourite" game. A community that considers any change of any kind to be some sort of personal attack. A community that simply has constant and unremitting nerdrage about toy spaceships.
Your kind make me sick. Leave, and let those of us who welcome CCP with open arms get one with the hard work of actually playing.
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Mordenn G'Kar
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Posted - 2011.08.03 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: Athena Tarsis Wow.
CCP needs to develop a giant violin shaped ship so I can fly around and play sad, sad songs for people like the OP.
Good grief.
+1
And this. Amen.
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StarGlider7
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2011.08.03 19:12:00 -
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Originally by: Mordenn G'Kar Edited by: Mordenn G''Kar on 03/08/2011 19:00:35
Originally by: glepp Most game developers would give an arm and a leg for a community that cared this much about their game.
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A community that hates everything about their "favourite" game. A community that considers any change of any kind to be some sort of personal attack. A community that simply has constant and unremitting nerdrage about toy spaceships.
Your kind make me sick. Leave, and let those of us who welcome CCP with open arms get one with the hard work of actually playing.
I'm inclined to strongly disagree with your opinion on this Sir. It is precisely because the community hold this game in such high regard and see resources being put into different areas that dont enhance the game that they care about, which justifies this so called nerdrage.
Still, if it makes you that sick, Im sure you know where THE DOOR is!
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