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Michelle Vega	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:40:00 - [1] Edited by: Michelle Vega on 25/06/2011 20:42:23 Don't you "i'm quiting eve" threaterners get it? Even if 3500 subs quit (ok a wildly overestimate amount) it isn't going to affect CCP at all. what they are introducing is going to bring in 35000 more subs. You might as well quit your protests. 90% of the people in these protests are just in it for the ride and the thrill of doing something different in Eve. Not like on the news where people burn american flags and protest kind of mentallity. But whatever tickles your bones, go for it. Edit: fixed numbers
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar The Python Cartel. The Defenders of Pen Island	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:41:00 - [2] 87.4% of statistics are pulled straight out of someone's ass
Icylce Frost Palace	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:41:00 - [3] Originally by: Michelle Vega Don't you "i'm quiting eve" threaterners get it? Even if 3500 subs quit (ok a wildly overestimate amount) it isn't going to affect CCP at all. what they are introducing is going to bring in 35000 more subs. You might as well quit your protests. 90% of the people in these protests are just in it for the ride and the thrill of doing something different in Eve. Not like on the news where people burn american flags and protest kind of mentallity. But whatever tickles your bones, go for it. confirming that numbers u pull out of your arse make a good argument
Feligast Minmatar GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:41:00 - [4] Edited by: Feligast on 25/06/2011 20:41:51 And never forget, 86.735% of all statistics are lies designed only to bolster a weak argument. sigh. Damn two minute wait timer. CCP NERF SESSION CHANGES
Johny Fuckkin Dango	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:42:00 - [5] that 3,500 was quite generous of u good sir
Teebee XERCORE Indecisive Certainty	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:42:00 - [6] That's because all the vets have returned and activated all their accounts now most of the vets might quit
ALLYOURMONEY BELONGTOUS	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:42:00 - [7] Originally by: Michelle Vega Don't you "i'm quiting eve" threaterners get it? Even if 3500 subs quit (ok a wildly overestimate amount) it isn't going to affect CCP at all. what they are introducing is going to bring in 35000 more subs. You might as well quit your protests. 90% of the people in these protests are just in it for the ride and the thrill of doing something different in Eve. Not like on the news where people burn american flags and protest kind of mentallity. But whatever tickles your bones, go for it. GO BACK TO YOUR DOLLHOUSE AND PLAY DRESSUP!!! here is the 35000 you were referring to?
Jennifer Starling Imperial Navy Forum Patrol	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:42:00 - [8] Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 25/06/2011 20:42:37 Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny 87.4% of statistics are pulled straight out of someone's ass Including or excluding this one?
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:43:00 - [9] Edited by: MotherMoon on 25/06/2011 20:44:32 Edited by: MotherMoon on 25/06/2011 20:43:48 YEAH! like APB! that was the 1st mmo to have a sub and a pay to win model and it totally got huge numbers!!!! oh wait... but seriously how does introducing real money for items that are better than anything a player can produce going to bring in more subs? also for the record I'm still not yelling NGE yet... but... there was thread on this same thing for SWG right before they went from 300,000 subs to 100,000 in 2 months.
Juan Sezole The Colonial Forces	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:43:00 - [10] Hilmer alt detected do you really think that anyone will sub to a game that blows up their GPU? Oh and remember EVE has already got a bad rep in the mmo community for being boring, go goole Zero Puncs review wait better still ill linkit EVE is boring

Fire Watch	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:44:00 - [11] OP.. you sound desperate.
Starkiller Adams Gallente Interwebs Cooter Explosion Important Internet Spaceship League	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:44:00 - [12] i highly doubt that many more people are going to join the game
Kurj Valdoria Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:44:00 - [13] lmfao. 35k new subs? based on? OMG I HEARD ABOUT THIS GREAT 9 YEAR OLD GAME CALLED EVE ONLINE. NOW FINALLY YOU CAN WALK IN A STATION.....WELL A LITTLE ROOM THAT YOU CAN BUY DRESSES TOO. No other eve expansion brought in that many people but one with features that makes the game worse is going to?
Michelle Vega	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:44:00 - [14] Originally by: Juan Sezole Hilmer alt detected do you really think that anyone will sub to a game that blows up their GPU? Oh and remember EVE has already got a bad rep in the mmo community for being boring, go goole Zero Puncs review wait better still ill linkit EVE is boring Get with the times and get a new rig.
jx3p	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:44:00 - [15] My friend quit WoW to sit in CQ and pay $60 for a monocle. True story. I guess these other 34,999 subs you mention want to do the same?
Katra Novac	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:45:00 - [16] Edited by: Katra Novac on 25/06/2011 20:47:43 Really OP and prey tell where are these 35,000 new subs going to come from? This games been about for years, everyone that wants to play it is playing it already. Only possible places I can think of is some of the ones from SWG when that closes and children and to accommodate those the game would have to be dumbed down somewhat. So where are these 35,000 new players coming from?
Othran Brutor Tribe	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:45:00 - [17] Originally by: Michelle Vega Don't you "i'm quiting eve" threaterners get it? I get it. You are hopelessly naive. Really you haven't a clue about what goes on around you. That's very sweet. Now **** off.
Kaethe Kollwitz	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:45:00 - [18] I would say 3,500 is an under estimate. and you know what the bottom line is: those 3,500 couldnt give a toss about the new 35,000 because guess what? They wont be here and their $52,000 a month wont be here either.
ExcalibursTemplar Caldari Citadel Enterprises	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:45:00 - [19] Originally by: Michelle Vega Edited by: Michelle Vega on 25/06/2011 20:42:23 Don't you "i'm quiting eve" threaterners get it? Even if 3500 subs quit (ok a wildly overestimate amount) it isn't going to affect CCP at all. what they are introducing is going to bring in 35000 more subs. You might as well quit your protests. 90% of the people in these protests are just in it for the ride and the thrill of doing something different in Eve. Not like on the news where people burn american flags and protest kind of mentallity. But whatever tickles your bones, go for it. Edit: fixed numbers The majority of the vapid people EVE barbie brings in wont stick around longer than the trial once they find out how dam hard eve is. Inappropriate signature removed. Zymurgist
Leah Pendragon	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:46:00 - [20] Originally by: Michelle Vega Don't you "i'm quiting eve" threaterners get it? Even if 3500 subs quit (ok a wildly overestimate amount) it isn't going to affect CCP at all. what they are introducing is going to bring in 35000 more subs. Your critical of 3500 sub losses but then throw in an entirely random 35k increase? Sure whatever. Besides CCP are facing a PR disaster. Check any other gaming news site, wont this effect new subs? The protests too are been picked up on multi-national gaming news site so irregardless they will have some impact.

Meryl SinGarda Caldari Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:46:00 - [21] Originally by: Juan Sezole Hilmer alt detected do you really think that anyone will sub to a game that blows up their GPU? Oh and remember EVE has already got a bad rep in the mmo community for being boring, go goole Zero Puncs review wait better still ill linkit EVE is boring I have 2 accounts and often run both in station. Running a 4 year old PC and nothing has blown up.
Theocrates	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:46:00 - [22] Originally by: ALLYOURMONEY BELONGTOUS Originally by: Michelle Vega Don't you "i'm quiting eve" threaterners get it? Even if 3500 subs quit (ok a wildly overestimate amount) it isn't going to affect CCP at all. what they are introducing is going to bring in 35000 more subs. You might as well quit your protests. 90% of the people in these protests are just in it for the ride and the thrill of doing something different in Eve. Not like on the news where people burn american flags and protest kind of mentallity. But whatever tickles your bones, go for it. GO BACK TO YOUR DOLLHOUSE AND PLAY DRESSUP!!! here is the 35000 you were referring to? Sorry kiddo too busy shaving your Mom. She looks kinda butch in the Good Humor uniform though but thats what the fraternity ordered. *By coffee alone I set my mind in motion, by the beans of Java thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning, by coffee alone I set my mind in motion.*
Jennifer Starling Imperial Navy Forum Patrol	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:46:00 - [23] Originally by: Michelle Vega Don't you "i'm quiting eve" threaterners get it? Even if 3500 subs quit (ok a wildly overestimate amount) it isn't going to affect CCP at all. what they are introducing is going to bring in 35000 more subs. I seriously doubt it that 3500 will really quit and I also doubt it that 35000 wil join. They better make the new player experience a bit better so they may retain a few more players.
El'Niaga Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:46:00 - [24] SOE claimed the same thing with SWG and the NGE.
Steph Wing Gallente Transfixion Reverberation Project	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:46:00 - [25] Edited by: Steph Wing on 25/06/2011 20:46:57 You cannot trade one group of customers for another. SWG tried exactly that. They've been hemmoraging subscribers nonstop until yesterday when they announced they're finished.
Michelle Vega	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:46:00 - [26] Originally by: Kurj Valdoria lmfao. 35k new subs? based on? OMG I HEARD ABOUT THIS GREAT 9 YEAR OLD GAME CALLED EVE ONLINE. NOW FINALLY YOU CAN WALK IN A STATION.....WELL A LITTLE ROOM THAT YOU CAN BUY DRESSES TOO. No other eve expansion brought in that many people but one with features that makes the game worse is going to? You forgot "buy skills". Now people who walked away before will actually come back to "play with the older players".
edith prickley	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:47:00 - [27] Edited by: edith prickley on 25/06/2011 20:47:23 Where's that 10% growth that you see? eve offline How much time should I wait for the Incarna bump? The CCP press releases last week don't seem to have done the job.
Cutter Isaacson Minmatar Fearsome Engine	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:48:00 - [28] Originally by: Michelle Vega Edited by: Michelle Vega on 25/06/2011 20:42:23 Don't you "i'm quiting eve" threaterners get it? Even if 3500 subs quit (ok a wildly overestimate amount) it isn't going to affect CCP at all. what they are introducing is going to bring in 35000 more subs. You might as well quit your protests. 90% of the people in these protests are just in it for the ride and the thrill of doing something different in Eve. Not like on the news where people burn american flags and protest kind of mentallity. But whatever tickles your bones, go for it. Edit: fixed numbers Even CCP's own staff say that the companies wildly optimistic figures for playerbase increase are utterly unreachable. So guess again. Originally by: Urban Dictionary Bro we just got monocled by CCP
J0 King	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:48:00 - [29] Originally by: Jennifer Starling Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 25/06/2011 20:42:37 Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny 87.4% of statistics are pulled straight out of someone's ass Including or excluding this one? Well done for not getting the joke
M4sterm1nd The Grimreapers. Destiny Corrupted.	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:49:00 - [30] Edited by: M4sterm1nd on 25/06/2011 20:50:19 The facts may be entirely different, but the appalling lack of ANY clear communication from those in charge makes us "threateners" feel like CCP is pulling an Enron, and we're going to be stuck with our primary hobby FUBARed by the equivalent of a schoolyard bully! The central questions now put to CCP in literally thousands of posts are simple yes or no; this isn't rocket science. They evade the questions citing supply and demand, but I don't seem them sending studs and starlets round to the undoubtedly significant percentage of the eve populace that wouldn't mind a sammich, a massage, or a quickie between roams!

Ayieka Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:50:00 - [31] Edited by: Ayieka on 25/06/2011 20:50:21 you also have to look at the bad publicity, as well as the fact that most new people don't have fun playing eve :D
Anon Forumalt6858	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:50:00 - [32] Originally by: Michelle Vega Edited by: Michelle Vega on 25/06/2011 20:42:23 Don't you "i'm quiting eve" threaterners get it? Even if 3500 subs quit (ok a wildly overestimate amount) it isn't going to affect CCP at all. what they are introducing is going to bring in 35000 more subs. You might as well quit your protests. 90% of the people in these protests are just in it for the ride and the thrill of doing something different in Eve. Not like on the news where people burn american flags and protest kind of mentallity. But whatever tickles your bones, go for it. Edit: fixed numbers You're weighting your stats incorrectly. The departing subscriptions are hardcore and loyal players that hold multiple accounts and have been with this game for years. The influx of subscriptions are new players coming into a game that is very complex and not exactly newbie-friendly. An old axiom comes to mind. "One in the hand is worth two in the bush." CCP would be wise to realize that. - His name was John Turbefield! CCP: We are adults who wage economic, social, and tactical warfare on each other for fun. Don't **** with us.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:52:00 - [33] 100% of SWG players got ****ed by NGE. That is a factual statistic. Thanks for playing OP. . Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
Zhula Guixgrixks	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:52:00 - [34] Edited by: Zhula Guixgrixks on 25/06/2011 20:51:55 Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny 87.4% of statistics are pulled straight out of someone's ass Military experts call it : "months of research by a group of highly competent professionals"
Brooks Puuntai Minmatar Nomadic Asylum	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:52:00 - [35] https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&hl=en_US&key=0AtUHbyNk0JSGdHR1TDhrRVhhQTUzLUMyVTNZdjJUaHc&output=html Up to 2500 and thats just from people who visit the forums. So your 3500 is probably a understatement. However your 35000 is laughable, and the fact that Eve has the worst turnover rate it wont help CCP much.
Siiee Recycled Heroes	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:52:00 - [36] Originally by: Michelle Vega 90% of the people in these protests are just in it for the ride and the thrill of doing something different in Eve. Why deny them the pleasure? If they've got something better to do than shoot at an indestructable structure for hours on end they're free to go do it. Maybe like going back out to nullsec and shoot at a near indestructable structure for hours on end.
Kaethe Kollwitz	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:53:00 - [37] Originally by: Anon Forumalt6858 One in the hand is worth two in the bush prawn tangent spotted
Don Aubaris	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:53:00 - [38] Originally by: Michelle Vega Edited by: Michelle Vega on 25/06/2011 20:42:23 Don't you "i'm quiting eve" threaterners get it? Even if 3500 subs quit (ok a wildly overestimate amount) it isn't going to affect CCP at all. what they are introducing is going to bring in 35000 more subs. You might as well quit your protests. 90% of the people in these protests are just in it for the ride and the thrill of doing something different in Eve. Not like on the news where people burn american flags and protest kind of mentallity. But whatever tickles your bones, go for it. Edit: fixed numbers You seem to forget how it will impact you. that 1 new player is not the same as 1 old player. 10 new players are not the same as 1 old one. You think a new player will have the same impact on the market? Will have the same experience at leading corps, mission, productions,... Less stuff created/Acquired means higher prices. So you gonna pay for years to get back at the current level of market efficiency.
Herping yourDerp	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:53:00 - [39] i think most people that join eve did it by recommendation of a friend, this will cease.
Feligast Minmatar GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:55:00 - [40] Originally by: Zhula Guixgrixks Edited by: Zhula Guixgrixks on 25/06/2011 20:51:55 Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny 87.4% of statistics are pulled straight out of someone's ass Military experts call it : "months of research by a group of highly competent professionals" :golfclap: Well played, sir.

RiskyFrisky Interrobang Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:55:00 - [41] Chribba quit. My whole corp has unsubscribed. I'm letting my sub run out. - More than 3500 people are quitting, and along with them, thousands more of accounts. Stop pulling statistics out of your ass.
Vaarun Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:55:00 - [42] Originally by: Theocrates GO BACK TO YOUR DOLLHOUSE AND PLAY DRESSUP!!! Actually, if we get a new influx of players who are here just to feed the CCosmetic coffers, so be it. The DUSTies can play on the ground. The MONO-DOLLS can play in the stations. And the rest of us can keep doing what we do in our ships. I have no problem with attracting console or fashion-based players to the EVE universe. I have a problems with paying for non-cosmetic upgrades that can give anyone an advantage. Extra ship slots is not a game-killer, but it's a slippery-slope I'd rather not step onto. "To bring order to chaos, one must bring chaos to its knees." -Vaarun
Speaker4 theDead	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:56:00 - [43] Yes, I can certainly see how a $70 Monicle will add value to this game. I see Wow kids coming in droves.....
Pherick Sjang Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:59:00 - [44]
RiskyFrisky Interrobang Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.25 21:11:00 - [45] Originally by: Pherick Sjang YES! JUST YES! You sir win an internet.
Michelle Vega	Posted - 2011.06.25 21:12:00 - [46] You ragewhiners are all just jealous, don't get enough attention IRL or poor. The vast of us don't care about the changes otherwise we would also be here with all our 1 day old alts. I'm guessing only 30-40 actual players are whining here.
SilentSkills Gallente Tax Evaders Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.25 21:13:00 - [47] Originally by: Michelle Vega Edited by: Michelle Vega on 25/06/2011 20:42:23 Don't you "i'm quiting eve" threaterners get it? Even if 3500 subs quit (ok a wildly overestimate amount) it isn't going to affect CCP at all. what they are introducing is going to bring in 35000 more subs. You might as well quit your protests. 90% of the people in these protests are just in it for the ride and the thrill of doing something different in Eve. Not like on the news where people burn american flags and protest kind of mentallity. But whatever tickles your bones, go for it. Edit: fixed numbers wrong, if those 3500 people(wild amount) quit, those 3500 people will put up so much bad press that anyone in their friend circle wont join. I for one intend to prevent anyone I know from joining EVE until its fixed. MonocleMonocle The door thread - http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID
CCFAIL	Posted - 2011.06.25 21:21:00 - [48] Originally by: Michelle Vega Not like on the news where people burn american flags and protest kind of mentallity. Give me a CCP flag and I'll burn it.
Covet Strain	Posted - 2011.06.25 21:26:00 - [49] 100% loss of customer respect.
Covet Strain	Posted - 2011.06.25 21:30:00 - [50] Originally by: Brooks Puuntai https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&hl=en_US&key=0AtUHbyNk0JSGdHR1TDhrRVhhQTUzLUMyVTNZdjJUaHc&output=html Up to 2500 and thats just from people who visit the forums. So your 3500 is probably a understatement. However your 35000 is laughable, and the fact that Eve has the worst turnover rate it wont help CCP much. That spreadsheet is not complete. My name isn't on it.

Tappits North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.06.25 21:32:00 - [51] Originally by: Michelle Vega Edited by: Michelle Vega on 25/06/2011 20:42:23 Don't you "i'm quiting eve" threaterners get it? Even if 3500 subs quit (ok a wildly overestimate amount) it isn't going to affect CCP at all. what they are introducing is going to bring in 35000 more subs. You might as well quit your protests. 90% of the people in these protests are just in it for the ride and the thrill of doing something different in Eve. Not like on the news where people burn american flags and protest kind of mentallity. But whatever tickles your bones, go for it. Edit: fixed numbers What planet are you on. dont something likr 90% of new people quit after 6 weeks or something? Looseing 5000 longterm players is much worse than getting 35k 6weekers. ---------------------------------------------- I fail At forums ٩๏̯͡๏)۶
Kaethe Kollwitz	Posted - 2011.06.25 21:34:00 - [52] Originally by: RiskyFrisky Chribba quit. wat?
Jennifer Starling Imperial Navy Forum Patrol	Posted - 2011.06.25 21:35:00 - [53] Originally by: Tappits What planet are you on. dont something likr 90% of new people quit after 6 weeks or something? Looseing 5000 longterm players is much worse than getting 35k 6weekers. Exactly, CCP should so something about the new player experience, not get them a box to walk in and a AUR store.
gdjghjhgjfh	Posted - 2011.06.25 21:35:00 - [54] Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny 87.4% of statistics are pulled straight out of someone's ass 97% are proven to be in the 5th dimension
Tappits North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.06.25 21:35:00 - [55] Originally by: Kaethe Kollwitz Originally by: RiskyFrisky Chribba quit. wat? What? Is this true? ---------------------------------------------- I fail At forums ٩๏̯͡๏)۶
Brooks Puuntai Minmatar Nomadic Asylum	Posted - 2011.06.25 21:35:00 - [56] Edited by: Brooks Puuntai on 25/06/2011 21:36:05 Originally by: Covet Strain That spreadsheet is not complete. My name isn't on it. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1536495 Post it there. edit: Don't believe any rumors about Chribba unless you hear it from him. He hasn't said anything about quitting at this time.
Randal Eirikr	Posted - 2011.06.25 21:37:00 - [57] Originally by: Kaethe Kollwitz Originally by: RiskyFrisky Chribba quit. wat? Confirm? O_o
Mr Mickey	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:23:00 - [58] Originally by: Michelle Vega Edited by: Michelle Vega on 25/06/2011 20:42:23 Don't you "i'm quiting eve" threaterners get it? Even if 3500 subs quit (ok a wildly overestimate amount) it isn't going to affect CCP at all. what they are introducing is going to bring in 35000 more subs. You might as well quit your protests. 90% of the people in these protests are just in it for the ride and the thrill of doing something different in Eve. Not like on the news where people burn american flags and protest kind of mentallity. But whatever tickles your bones, go for it. Edit: fixed numbers BUT DOES IT MAKE IT WRIGHT...... MAKE YOUR MIND UP~!
Yabba Addict	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:28:00 - [59] Originally by: Michelle Vega what they are introducing is going to bring in 35000 more subs. heh..heheheh..hehehhehahahaahah.......bwaaaaahahahahahahahaha..heheheh...hmmmmm I don't want to be human! I want to see gamma rays! I want to hear X-rays! I want to smell dark matter! Do you see the absurdity of what I am? I'm a machine! And I can know much more.
Vice Admiral Spreadsheet Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:29:00 - [60] Let's do some maths! 1500 unsubs 750 of these are people saying something like "-2 character". We all know there are 3 characters per subscription. 100 of these are outright lies, and people posting multiple times with different alts. 650 unsubs. 500 of these people will resubscribe. 150 unsubs total due to lies and hot air.

Kitsumi Tzu	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:30:00 - [61] Originally by: Pherick Sjang Dammit, you need to warn us before posting something like that. I nearly died of laughter.
DeODokktor Caldari Dark Templars The Fonz Presidium	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:31:00 - [62] Chribba HAS NOT Quit I think the char who said that was trying to be sarcastic and show that 99% of the time 50% of the stuff you hear can be 80% wrong and 20% made up. ----------- Never Forget the joy of finding a main to link to a scammer alt. N-y-p-h-u-r ! !
RensPriceChecker2	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:33:00 - [63] Originally by: Michelle Vega Edited by: Michelle Vega on 25/06/2011 20:42:23 Don't you "i'm quiting eve" threaterners get it? Even if 3500 subs quit (ok a wildly overestimate amount) it isn't going to affect CCP at all. what they are introducing is going to bring in 35000 more subs. You might as well quit your protests. 90% of the people in these protests are just in it for the ride and the thrill of doing something different in Eve. Not like on the news where people burn american flags and protest kind of mentallity. But whatever tickles your bones, go for it. Edit: fixed numbers the numbers we actually have show a different scenario. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1395464 Do you support the introduction of more Microtransactions ingame? LAST TALLY: NO 79.03% \| YES 5.02% \| COSMETIC ONLY 11.23% \| OTHER 4.73% ~80 % of the eve players are against any sorts of microtransactions ~over 90% are against microtransactions that go beyond vanity items 5% of the playerbase is in favour.
General Xenophon	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:36:00 - [64] Edited by: General Xenophon on 25/06/2011 23:37:06 Originally by: Michelle Vega Edited by: Michelle Vega on 25/06/2011 20:42:23 Don't you "i'm quiting eve" threaterners get it? Even if 3500 subs quit (ok a wildly overestimate amount) it isn't going to affect CCP at all. what they are introducing is going to bring in 35000 more subs. You might as well quit your protests. 90% of the people in these protests are just in it for the ride and the thrill of doing something different in Eve. Not like on the news where people burn american flags and protest kind of mentallity. But whatever tickles your bones, go for it. Edit: fixed numbers LOL another "I KNOW MORE THAN EVERYONE ELSE WHOSE QUITTING EVE!" thread. Welp you've changed my mind! CCP is my favorite game company and they care about ME SO much that I can now buy matching outfits! Can't wait till they add short shorts! FABULOUS!
Vice Admiral Spreadsheet Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:40:00 - [65] Originally by: RensPriceChecker2 Do you support the introduction of more Microtransactions ingame? LAST TALLY: NO 79.03% \| YES 5.02% \| COSMETIC ONLY 11.23% \| OTHER 4.73% ~80 % of the eve players are against any sorts of microtransactions ~over 90% are against microtransactions that go beyond vanity items 5% of the playerbase is in favour. Strange.... It seems like only 1% of players ingame are actually against MT in any form. The other 50k are playing EVE right now
Arista Shahni Amarr Murasaki Mining and Manufacturing	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:41:00 - [66] Originally by: Kaethe Kollwitz I would say 3,500 is an under estimate. and you know what the bottom line is: those 3,500 couldnt give a toss about the new 35,000 because guess what? They wont be here and their $52,000 a month wont be here either. This!! And If you don't care either, shut up because your only clogging up your own forums to those 35,000 prospective players. But hey, I guess bad press is good business practice these days, what do I know? I guess I'm not moving with the times in EVE where you're supposed to bring the heartless insulting, backstabbing, and hatred of people who have shown loyalty to your cause (like supporting a RL business with it's subscriptions) OUT of the context of internet spaceships and into REAL LIFE. Seriously. I'm going to go watch the real version of Kitchen Nightmares now. Cause you ain't Ramsey, this ain't a business saving strategy, and we're not hungry for this anymore, the end. "It's useless for you to leave because ten more will take your place, muhahaha..."
Kirika Misono The Eiken Club	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:44:00 - [67] Originally by: Ayieka Edited by: Ayieka on 25/06/2011 20:50:21 you also have to look at the bad publicity, as well as the fact that most new people don't have fun playing eve :D The problem here is that the bad publicity, at least from the main game media, is one of bafflement at what morons eve players are over this. Not how CCP sucks, what morons the players are... Originally by: Clementina If you bug report it, you get ignored. If you post about it on the forums, you get banned. If you exploit it, you get rich.
Zarlis Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:45:00 - [68] Originally by: Michelle Vega Edited by: Michelle Vega on 25/06/2011 20:42:23 Don't you "I'm quitting eve" threateners get it? Even if 3500 subs quit (ok a wildly overestimate amount) it isn't going to affect CCP at all. what they are introducing is going to bring in 35000 more subs. You might as well quit your protests. 90% of the people in these protests are just in it for the ride and the thrill of doing something different in Eve. Not like on the news where people burn American flags and protest kind of mentality. But whatever tickles your bones, go for it. Edit: fixed numbers Great post. I also completely believe people are going to leave games where playing dress up dollies is part of their sub and move to one where they can pay $25 extra for each item. Chlorine, coming to the space pool near you. Get your goggles at the Aurum store. Greed is good.pdf
Larissa Sunsorrow	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:52:00 - [69] of course it will bring 35k more subs. for only one month. then they will see who pays more, win. premium accounts in a paid mmo, **** yeah.
Syphon Lodian Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:56:00 - [70] Edited by: Syphon Lodian on 25/06/2011 23:57:06 I seriously can't wait until all the summer 'visitors' and rage-demons leave. It's going to be great. GTFO No really.. GTFO. Mkay? Mkay. Now everyone party. ------------------------------------------------- Go pod yourself.

Uncle KiddyFiddler	Posted - 2011.06.26 00:01:00 - [71] Edited by: Uncle KiddyFiddler on 26/06/2011 00:01:41 Originally by: Syphon Lodian Edited by: Syphon Lodian on 25/06/2011 23:57:06 I seriously can't wait until all the summer 'visitors' and rage-demons leave. It's going to be great. GTFO No really.. GTFO. Mkay? Mkay. Now everyone party. Failmar?
Hayaku Codolle	Posted - 2011.06.26 00:07:00 - [72] Originally by: Michelle Vega Edited by: Michelle Vega on 25/06/2011 20:42:23 Don't you "i'm quiting eve" threaterners get it? Even if 3500 subs quit (ok a wildly overestimate amount) it isn't going to affect CCP at all. what they are introducing is going to bring in 35000 more subs. You might as well quit your protests. 90% of the people in these protests are just in it for the ride and the thrill of doing something different in Eve. Not like on the news where people burn american flags and protest kind of mentallity. But whatever tickles your bones, go for it. Edit: fixed numbers Sorry to break your eggs, friends of mine wanted to join... at the mere sight of a MT the pulled a sad face decided not to do it.
Republica Winder Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2011.06.26 00:10:00 - [73] EVE is looking at net sub losses in the tens of thousands within days, maybe even 100,000 or more. That's what happened when the NGE hit.
Sarpadeon Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2011.06.26 01:15:00 - [74] Edited by: Sarpadeon on 26/06/2011 01:15:35 Originally by: Kirika Misono Originally by: Ayieka Edited by: Ayieka on 25/06/2011 20:50:21 you also have to look at the bad publicity, as well as the fact that most new people don't have fun playing eve :D The problem here is that the bad publicity, at least from the main game media, is one of bafflement at what morons eve players are over this. Not how CCP sucks, what morons the players are... http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/06/25/eve-online-players-protest-against-monocle-pricesmicrotransactions-lasers-involved/ "HereÆs the killer quote. ItÆs pretty special." 1,000$ jeans "/facepalm" saying?
Cave Lord	Posted - 2011.06.26 01:18:00 - [75] Originally by: Michelle Vega Edited by: Michelle Vega on 25/06/2011 20:42:23 Don't you "i'm quiting eve" threaterners get it? Even if 3500 subs quit (ok a wildly overestimate amount) it isn't going to affect CCP at all. what they are introducing is going to bring in 35000 more subs. You might as well quit your protests. 90% of the people in these protests are just in it for the ride and the thrill of doing something different in Eve. Not like on the news where people burn american flags and protest kind of mentallity. But whatever tickles your bones, go for it. Edit: fixed numbers Are you actually suggesting we fly to iceland and burn CCP flags? I wouldn't go that far.
Richard Feynmann	Posted - 2011.06.26 01:41:00 - [76] nearly 6k accounts already cancelled.
Tom Peeping	Posted - 2011.06.26 03:38:00 - [77] Originally by: Michelle Vega Edited by: Michelle Vega on 25/06/2011 20:42:23 Don't you "i'm quiting eve" threaterners get it? Even if 3500 subs quit (ok a wildly overestimate amount) it isn't going to affect CCP at all. what they are introducing is going to bring in 35000 more subs. You might as well quit your protests. 90% of the people in these protests are just in it for the ride and the thrill of doing something different in Eve. Not like on the news where people burn american flags and protest kind of mentallity. But whatever tickles your bones, go for it. Edit: fixed numbers The numbers on quitting aren't out of someones ass... each represents a discrete post by the individual user tabulated in google docs... Certainly some of them could be trolls, but mine for one, is legit. 2 of 3 accounts gone. 3rd is waiting on CCP's decisions.


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