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Croniac Merlin Reach	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:17:00 - [1] Todays server graph on the eveonline.com front page is tracking precisely on step with last Saturday pre-Incarna. If people really were quitting enmasse, as they claim to be on these forums, it seems like that graph would be a impossible. So while I get that some folks really do have their panties in a wad about this, I think a lot of people posting on this forum are just using this as an opportunity to act like jackasses while they macro mine in Genesis. If you're really actually not going to quit, stop making the forums so unpleasant. And if you really are going to quit, please take your rage out the door to your new MMO. Because the noise in here is coming from so many directions anyhow, nobody can see anything or possibly read it all.
SNeAkYbRiT Gunslingers Corp	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:18:00 - [2] Edited by: SNeAkYbRiT on 25/06/2011 23:18:10 what another one that doesnt understand monthly subs...whos going to explain to this one? TY Black
Black Dranzer Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:18:00 - [3] I'm assuming you've never cancelled a subscription before. You can keep playing until your game time runs out. _____ This is one of the moments where we look at what CCP does and less of what they say. Innovation takes time to set in and the predictable reaction is always to resist change.
Benri Konpaku	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:18:00 - [4] Originally by: SNeAkYbRiT what another one that doesnt understand monthly subs...whos going to explain to this one? I'm not that bored man.
Ayieka Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:18:00 - [5] pretty sure these forums were full of unpleasentness even before we all got mad.
Herping yourDerp	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:18:00 - [6] when u unsub you have time left, you just dont renew, some people pay per year, and when they unsub can have months left of game time, also, many people are logging in, shooting monument in protest then AFKing, saying goodbye to friends and corp mates, and or going out with a bang.
Katra Novac	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:19:00 - [7] If you're finding the forums unpleasant, then don't read them for now. It's really that simple!
XIRUSPHERE Gallente The 8th Order Mean Coalition	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:19:00 - [8] Just because people are leaving and unsubscribing does not mean they don't have game time left, wont play with their friends, and wont spread a message. This is a campaign of awareness and it's a good pressure valve for years worth of frustrations coming to the surface. It's not going away anytime soon. The size of your ligature is too large. Please use it - Failout
cecil b d'milf	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:19:00 - [9] Originally by: Croniac Todays server graph on the eveonline.com front page is tracking precisely on step with last Saturday pre-Incarna. If people really were quitting enmasse, as they claim to be on these forums, it seems like that graph would be a impossible. So while I get that some folks really do have their panties in a wad about this, I think a lot of people posting on this forum are just using this as an opportunity to act like jackasses while they macro mine in Genesis. If you're really actually not going to quit, stop making the forums so unpleasant. And if you really are going to quit, please take your rage out the door to your new MMO. Because the noise in here is coming from so many directions anyhow, nobody can see anything or possibly read it all. cancel subscription =/= immediate denial of access to tranquility, a VAST number of the players online are involved in PROTESTS... get a clue FFS
Croniac Merlin Reach	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:19:00 - [10] Originally by: Black Dranzer I'm assuming you've never cancelled a subscription before. You can keep playing until your game time runs out. I know you CAN continue to play.. But why would you, remember, you hate eve now... So why would you want to stay?

Ayieka Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:21:00 - [11] Originally by: Croniac I know you CAN continue to play.. But why would you, remember, you hate eve now... So why would you want to stay? so we can shoot the crap out of a statue and make jita sucky for people.
SNeAkYbRiT Gunslingers Corp	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:21:00 - [12] We dont HATE Eve...we don't HATE Incarna...please please, read the forums and try and open your eyes to what is going on.
Benri Konpaku	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:21:00 - [13] Edited by: Benri Konpaku on 25/06/2011 23:22:50 Originally by: Croniac Originally by: Black Dranzer I'm assuming you've never cancelled a subscription before. You can keep playing until your game time runs out. I know you CAN continue to play.. But why would you, remember, you hate eve now... So why would you want to stay? That's the thing, it is precisely because we love EVE that we want to fight for it. The ones just wanting people who don't like how CCP want to destroy the game to turn it into Farmville to leave are the ones who probably don't have as much invested in it.
Avon Caldari Versatech Co. Raiden.	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:21:00 - [14] He is also missing the fact that after an expansion there is usually an increase in activity. If I were CCP I would find the fact the amount of players online is only just pegging last week. Retro sig
So Sensational Ministry of War	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:21:00 - [15] Originally by: Croniac Originally by: Black Dranzer I'm assuming you've never cancelled a subscription before. You can keep playing until your game time runs out. I know you CAN continue to play.. But why would you, remember, you hate eve now... So why would you want to stay? Have you not paid attention at all? Protests halo?
Xtreem Gallente Fire Mandrill	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:21:00 - [16] Also, keep this in mind. every patch has had a vast amount of people re-sub to come check it out, normally after an expansion the PCU is broken, it has been way off this time. you saw all the rage on the forums, almost every thread? many saying they are quitting? you see now that alot more threads are about pro incarna etc? well that's going to be because the people most ****ed off have, indeed, quit! when the people that re-subbed for the patch, leave again, and the people that quit accounts expire, then you will have your answer. don't be too hasty to claim victory! At this point, only time will tell for both sides.
Tippia Caldari Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:22:00 - [17] Edited by: Tippia on 25/06/2011 23:25:48 àalso, a Saturday after a big, long-awaited patch matching the Saturday before said patch is pretty darn poor. That's usually when everyone logs in and plays with the new toys. Compare this to the weeks after Incursion hit (the actual feature, not the patch), back in Januaryà ùùù ôWe want to try this thing called micro-transactions, but we don't know what it is. Can anyone explainà aw screw it, let's just do it! What could go wrong?ö ù ÇÇP
Chandler Urandom Minmatar Native Freshfood	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:22:00 - [18] Edited by: Chandler Urandom on 25/06/2011 23:23:24 First and foremost: How long have you been around? After expansions there are typically a surge of players online. After large expansions, this number increases substantially. Considering Incarna was a very much anticipated expansion, the number is quite low. Secondly: For the love of ****, cancelling subscription != gone immediately! Christ.
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:22:00 - [19] Originally by: Croniac Originally by: Black Dranzer I'm assuming you've never cancelled a subscription before. You can keep playing until your game time runs out. I know you CAN continue to play.. But why would you, remember, you hate eve now... So why would you want to stay? I've wondered the same. But I think it's just a lot of huff and puff. Lots of air. I'm sure a few actually quit. But I'd wager it is no where near what the forum warriors claim it is. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
Vice Admiral Spreadsheet Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:23:00 - [20] AHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAH "I cancelled my account because this game sucks!" And then they continue playing it. What a joke! Even then, the protests contain a lot of people who won't unsub. There seems to be next to no ingame support. Protestors attempting to plead their case that "If CCP sell pants, they're going to sell SP!" is being shot out of the sky by randoms in local.

Ghard Eleran	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:23:00 - [21] Edited by: Ghard Eleran on 25/06/2011 23:23:29 lets say i cancel my subscription on the same day i pad it i would then have 1 month of play time before my account was unacessable. and in that month i would protest for a few reasons with the removal of spinning your ship in statons you can go out protest and it gives the same enjoyment at least for me. most of the time was spent sitting in station talking wih copr/alliance mates about random stuff now i can talk about my hatred for ccp's new buisness modle with anyone i see whill orbiting the statue in jita amd to make it better there prety lazers and missiles!!!!
Katra Novac	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:26:00 - [22] Originally by: Black Dranzer I'm assuming you've never cancelled a subscription before. You can keep playing until your game time runs out. They're unsubscribed and protesting, what's so hard to understand about that? What's more worrying is that the anti protesters don't seem to be that bright for the most part. Ideal candidates for an MT shop it seems.
edith prickley	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:27:00 - [23] Originally by: Croniac Todays server graph on the eveonline.com front page is tracking precisely on step with last Saturday pre-Incarna. If people really were quitting enmasse, as they claim to be on these forums, it seems like that graph would be a impossible. Yeah, if there wasn't an expansion in between these two weekends, that would look like good news. But as there was ... it actually looks like pretty scary news.
Seishi Maru doMAL S.A.	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:27:00 - [24] I payed for 6 motnhs in advance. And My decision that EVE does not deserve MORE of my money does nto make me stupid to jsut throw away the money I have already spent. If i do that I would be givign moeny for free to CCP, and that is last thing I would do.
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:28:00 - [25] Originally by: Katra Novac If you're finding the forums unpleasant, then don't read them for now. It's really that simple! Let me fix that for you a bit: Originally by: Katra Novac If you're finding the game unpleasant, then don't log in for now. It's really that simple! Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
Benri Konpaku	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:29:00 - [26] Originally by: Katra Novac What's more worrying is that the anti protesters don't seem to be that bright for the most part. Ideal candidates for an MT shop it seems. This worries me too. Like a post said some time ago, they are probably the target audience for CCP's new EVE. They just don't care about the game enough and will leave relatively soon, so they wont mind if MTs destroys the game and universe players have been building up for years. Also they wont need much new content because they will leave soon enough.
Mr Digs Dark-Rising Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:29:00 - [27] People who say they quit. Don't actually quit. They are just attention whoring. Its the ones that don't speak.. That quit. If this is incorrect however, bonus to the rest of us the amount of morons in this game with 2 braincells between them decreases. Thanks for making our game better. EVE time codes 60 Days EvE Game Time
Garreth Vlox Minmatar Obsidian Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:31:00 - [28] Originally by: Croniac Todays server graph on the eveonline.com front page is tracking precisely on step with last Saturday pre-Incarna. If people really were quitting enmasse, as they claim to be on these forums, it seems like that graph would be a impossible. So while I get that some folks really do have their panties in a wad about this, I think a lot of people posting on this forum are just using this as an opportunity to act like jackasses while they macro mine in Genesis. If you're really actually not going to quit, stop making the forums so unpleasant. And if you really are going to quit, please take your rage out the door to your new MMO. Because the noise in here is coming from so many directions anyhow, nobody can see anything or possibly read it all. one thing to keep in mind bro, subscriptions are 30 days long, not 1 everyone who canceled in the last 48 hours depending on their sub time could continue to play their characters till the end of said subs, thats what i am doing now. so yeah grahp doesnt mean anything yet look at it again this time next month and you will get the real truth.
Anon Forumalt6858	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:31:00 - [29] Originally by: Croniac Originally by: Black Dranzer I'm assuming you've never cancelled a subscription before. You can keep playing until your game time runs out. I know you CAN continue to play.. But why would you, remember, you hate eve now... So why would you want to stay? Because you're not realizing something important. We WANT Eve to be salvaged. We've made our statments here and in our cancellation exit surveys, but also clinging to the hope that our efforts can wake up this company that we once loved. I hope they get themselves straightened out before our plexed up accounts run out. - His name was John Turbefield! CCP: We are adults who wage economic, social, and tactical warfare on each other for fun. Don't **** with us.
Katra Novac	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:32:00 - [30] Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 Originally by: Katra Novac If you're finding the forums unpleasant, then don't read them for now. It's really that simple! Let me fix that for you a bit: Originally by: Katra Novac If you're finding the game unpleasant, then don't log in for now. It's really that simple! That's not a problem I'm not logged into the game, I'm logged into the forum.

Thodol	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:32:00 - [31] Originally by: Croniac Todays server graph on the eveonline.com front page is tracking precisely on step with last Saturday pre-Incarna. Brilliant analysis Hurrrrr Durrrr
Chandler Urandom Minmatar Native Freshfood	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:32:00 - [32] Originally by: Mr Digs People who say they quit. Don't actually quit. They are just attention whoring. Its the ones that don't speak.. That quit. Your rationale is as sound as your punctuation.
Benri Konpaku	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:32:00 - [33] Edited by: Benri Konpaku on 25/06/2011 23:32:53 Originally by: Mr Digs People who say they quit. Don't actually quit. They are just attention whoring. Its the ones that don't speak.. That quit. If this is incorrect however, bonus to the rest of us the amount of morons in this game with 2 braincells between them decreases. Thanks for making our game better. Wrong, we are doing this to try and bring the game back before it's too late, if it doesn't work our accounts will simply run out of time and we'll move on to other games. Maybe you do not care enough to do anything but toss the issues under the rug or just walk away without a second look. We do.
Razin The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:32:00 - [34] Originally by: Croniac Todays server graph on the eveonline.com front page is tracking precisely on step with last Saturday pre-Incarna. If people really were quitting enmasse, as they claim to be on these forums, it seems like that graph would be a impossible. So while I get that some folks really do have their panties in a wad about this, I think a lot of people posting on this forum are just using this as an opportunity to act like jackasses while they macro mine in Genesis. If you're really actually not going to quit, stop making the forums so unpleasant. And if you really are going to quit, please take your rage out the door to your new MMO. Because the noise in here is coming from so many directions anyhow, nobody can see anything or possibly read it all. Here's a completely banal observation about players like the op: they are devoid of intellect. Stupid for short. Too stupid to understand that most subscription need time to run out, too stupid to understand the difference between plex/RMT and CCP plans for MTs in EVE, too stupid to see the giant flaws in 'Incarna'. Just saying. ... Return the Old Hangar Back... for Immersion.
Vice Admiral Spreadsheet Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:36:00 - [35] Uh oh. The trolls are resorting to personal insults. I guess the OP caught them out. "We're gonna unsub! Honestly! First, I just want to shoot this monument! And run this mission! And have a quick roam!" Here's a thought: Why are unsubbers protesting, when they're going to "leave the game forever"? Because they're cowards and liars, and will resub after a week, if they've even told the truth about unsubbing in the first place!
Deja Thoris Invicta. Rooks and Kings	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:38:00 - [36] Originally by: Croniac Todays server graph on the eveonline.com front page is tracking precisely on step with last Saturday pre-Incarna. If people really were quitting enmasse, as they claim to be on these forums, it seems like that graph would be a impossible. CCP expects growth from a major touted expansion. The fact that figures are "flat" isn't really a ringing endorsement. As others have said, it takes a while for the cancellations to kick in, many people feel that they may as well get their moneysworth in the meantime. Sorry you don't like the fact that customers are complaining about the product they pay(paid) for. If you don't like it, don't read it. Its not hard to skip the threads you will dislike and cherrypick the ones you will.
Ruze Ahkor'Murkon Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:38:00 - [37] Originally by: Vice Admiral Spreadsheet Uh oh. The trolls are resorting to personal insults. I guess the OP caught them out. "We're gonna unsub! Honestly! First, I just want to shoot this monument! And run this mission! And have a quick roam!" Here's a thought: Why are unsubbers protesting, when they're going to "leave the game forever"? Because they're cowards and liars, and will resub after a week, if they've even told the truth about unsubbing in the first place! +1 Posts by Ruze Ahkor'Murkon and Ruze
Discrodia Gallente Symbiosis International Moose Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:38:00 - [38] Originally by: Ayieka Originally by: Croniac I know you CAN continue to play.. But why would you, remember, you hate eve now... So why would you want to stay? so we can shoot the crap out of a statue and make jita sucky for people. This, more or less. Also, most people who are quitting don't hate EVE in its whole. We just hate the direction CCP wants for the game, and so we're leaving before their vision becomes a reality. I loved EVE. I really did. And now I will find something else to play until someone with a brain gets back in charge at CCP. Originally by: anonymous WE JUST DID SCIENCE!
MaiLina KaTar	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:40:00 - [39] Edited by: MaiLina KaTar on 25/06/2011 23:41:42 Why they still on? Simple: Drama, carnage, soap opera, hopefully some bodyparts. Gawkers do their thing, patient dies, crowd dissipates. Also, stuff doesn't happen instantly. MMOs dying is always slow and painful death.
theRaptor Caldari Tactical Operations	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:42:00 - [40] Seriously this whole drama is the most interesting thing that has happened in ages. I play EvE for the drama because the basic game play is very stale these days. I re-subbed using old PLEX to give away all my stuff and participate in this glorious cataclysm.

Chandler Urandom Minmatar Native Freshfood	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:43:00 - [41] Edited by: Chandler Urandom on 25/06/2011 23:44:03 Originally by: Vice Admiral Spreadsheet Uh oh. The trolls are resorting to personal insults. I guess the OP caught them out. Clearly. Originally by: Vice Admiral Spreadsheet "We're gonna unsub! Honestly! First, I just want to shoot this monument! And run this mission! And have a quick roam!" Why not? Originally by: Vice Admiral Spreadsheet Here's a thought: Why are unsubbers protesting, when they're going to "leave the game forever"? That's a question. Also, why not? I would dare say that people quitting over recent events, aren't leaving 'cause they hate the current state of EVE. They are leaving due to the game's uncertain future (/future of the gameplay), and because they do not support this development. Originally by: Vice Admiral Spreadsheet Because they're cowards Do elaborate... Originally by: Vice Admiral Spreadsheet and will resub after a week, Clearly you has gots da proofs. Originally by: Vice Admiral Spreadsheet if they've even told the truth about unsubbing in the first place! They told the truth about leaving, but aren't leaving? Obviously this is one of those deep thought exercises with an inevitable paradox.
Morgan Polaris	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:44:00 - [42] 50k after a 'momentous' expansion is just **** sad. And everyone throwing in a protest can be found online. Donations accepted: 1BpQEYT7aSUNM863BV67FPxyv1cpxr74uu
Ilmunel	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:46:00 - [43] Edited by: Ilmunel on 25/06/2011 23:47:52 Originally by: Vice Admiral Spreadsheet Uh oh. Here's a thought: Why are unsubbers protesting, when they're going to "leave the game forever"? Because they're cowards and liars, and will resub after a week, if they've even told the truth about unsubbing in the first place! Cus they love this game troll:), and yeah they quit if nothing changes, cus this game will become meaningless to play with smth like sp for aur
Flamespar	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:49:00 - [44] Yes this is hilarious. All the ragers are basically saying 'ooh I'm ever so angry that I'm going to quit immediately but continue to keep playing.' Bottom line: Dear whingers/rage quitters/panties in a twists, nobody cares. But please do follow through with your threat to quit.
Jacob Stiller	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:50:00 - [45] Originally by: Katra Novac If you're finding the forums unpleasant, then don't read them for now. It's really that simple! I'm finding the forums rather fascinating. I have never seen rage of this magnitude in 20 years on the internet. At its current growth rate, Pann's thread will be one of the largest in internet history in a month. I only decided to try out this game again a month ago after a 2 month boring as hell mining stint last year. All the surprises surrounding Incarna, Lulzsec, and CPP scandals have certainly kept me thoroughly entertained this time around as I slowly train skills to try out PvP. TBH, I had a short-lived trial account way back 2008 as I took an interest in emerging virtual economies. Eve being one of the most famous of these. I'd hate to see CPP ruin this, but this affair has offered an unexpected close-up look at corporate greed and internet activism. Trippia's article has clarified what you all are so ****ed off about. Although a lot of the concern is purely speculative at this point and there may be somewhat less damning interpretations of the newsletter than the most damning possible interpretation that the community is fixiated on, I am seriously considering cancelling my subscription just for the hell of it. It would be better to give CCP a stern warning to not go this path than take the risk of them actually following through.
Pavel Bidermann	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:51:00 - [46] This thread is fantastic! Lots of the kind of people that CCP is really looking for. Not smart enough to know how to read a forum post and don't understand how the subscription process works! Yup. The future looks bright alright. Hey! There are some great purchases to be made in Jita local right now. Really good deals. I hear they caught all the scammers so it's all totally legit!
Glyken Touchon Gallente Independent Alchemists	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:52:00 - [47] because surely, as the expansion "roll[ed] out without a hitch" and was "an amazing technological and artistic achievement", they would have expected it to be higher than last week's figures? ______ Tippia's analysis Meissa's blog
Ilmunel	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:52:00 - [48] just by monocles already trolls :D
RougeOperator	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:52:00 - [49] Edited by: RougeOperator on 25/06/2011 23:54:02 Originally by: Croniac Originally by: Black Dranzer I'm assuming you've never cancelled a subscription before. You can keep playing until your game time runs out. I know you CAN continue to play.. But why would you, remember, you hate eve now... So why would you want to stay? We don't hate Eve We hat the direction CCP is going with EvE. In Two years it will not be the game I started to play because it was not run like other MMOs. The thinking of the higher ups is pretty clear they dont respect of care about players concerns. For every one player that quits there are most likely 5 that agree with his points but are going to hang in on faint and hope. And I will use the time I damn well paid for since they don't refund it.
theRaptor Caldari Tactical Operations	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:53:00 - [50] Originally by: Flamespar All the ragers are basically saying 'ooh I'm ever so angry that I'm going to quit immediately but continue to keep playing.' No, we are saying we are going to unsubscribe. The unsubscription is a threat against CCPs MT plans. People can additionally continue to protest ingame until their sub runs out or CCP change their plans. CCP don't care if you log in, just that they are going to get paid next month.

Zarlis Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:58:00 - [51] Originally by: Croniac Todays server graph on the eveonline.com front page is tracking precisely on step with last Saturday pre-Incarna. Normally after after an expansion there is a spike in that graph. If it's business as usual after such an important expansion for them that's pretty bad. Chlorine, coming to the space pool near you. Get your goggles at the Aurum store. Greed is good.pdf
Desert Ice78 Gryphon River Industries R-I-P	Posted - 2011.06.26 00:01:00 - [52] And right now I'm shooting the momument in Jita..... CCP: Consistency since 2003
Snake Scofield	Posted - 2011.06.26 00:02:00 - [53] Breaking news reported around the internet : EvE-Online players are furious that they can't afford a monocle. Are now actively protesting by continuing to play the game and attempting to destroy an indestructible object.
theRaptor Caldari Tactical Operations	Posted - 2011.06.26 00:05:00 - [54] Originally by: Snake Scofield EvE-Online players are furious that they can't afford a monocle. I can afford it. I have spent over $200 on hobby stuff in the last month and I am a student. I just won't pay CCPs prices. Hell in general I wont engage in MT in subscription based MMOs. It is double dipping as far as I am concerned.
Oko70 Caldari Aeacos	Posted - 2011.06.26 00:06:00 - [55] Here we go again... My "Rage" as people are calling it is not the information or details that are coming out, although making me unhappy, doesn't put me to rage... it is the lack of answers and seeming condemnation of there playerbase as cash-cows to be milk almost dry but not quite. Give me straight answers and don't talk down to me like a 5yr old. I am an adult and can take bad news, and if I don't find it acceptable I will take my money and leave. It is your choice, I don't really care what you do it is your company and money. I just want to know some answers so I know whether or not your get MY time and money. Fair exchange we both risk the same, my business, I know it is unimportant to you and i cannot change your mind if i don't like the direction and i'm not going to try. I just need to know so i know if i am staying or not. No big deal, you either have my business or you don't... So stop dancing around being elusive and state the direction of Eve. You have no problem being all in faces when you have big announcements and such. Why can't you tell us the plan for Eve? According to all the leaks and such it is obvious that Eve is changing drastically very quickly kinda like SWG did back in the day, I left there because i didn't like the changes. Sorry for the rant but long day and it seems this post ended up being my venting. More to say but i could literally go on for pages, already wrote a 5page word doc to email CCP when i can finally finish it off.
Lonox	Posted - 2011.06.26 00:08:00 - [56] Confirming all these QQ'ers were at losernaire, copy/pasting their forum QQ in local. Originally by: Holly Cleland has red bruising and veins popping up where the monocle plugs in. No wonder you people are so angry, you're doing it wrong.
Harcosi	Posted - 2011.06.26 00:12:00 - [57] Originally by: Croniac Todays server graph on the eveonline.com front page is tracking precisely on step with last Saturday pre-Incarna. If people really were quitting enmasse, as they claim to be on these forums, it seems like that graph would be a impossible. So while I get that some folks really do have their panties in a wad about this, I think a lot of people posting on this forum are just using this as an opportunity to act like jackasses while they macro mine in Genesis. If you're really actually not going to quit, stop making the forums so unpleasant. And if you really are going to quit, please take your rage out the door to your new MMO. Because the noise in here is coming from so many directions anyhow, nobody can see anything or possibly read it all. None of us WANT to quit. I'm still going to play until the point that my accounts expire, or CCP promises that MT will not affect gameplay.
Reiisha Splint Eye Probabilities Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.26 00:17:00 - [58] Originally by: Croniac Todays server graph on the eveonline.com front page is tracking precisely on step with last Saturday pre-Incarna. If people really were quitting enmasse, as they claim to be on these forums, it seems like that graph would be a impossible. So while I get that some folks really do have their panties in a wad about this, I think a lot of people posting on this forum are just using this as an opportunity to act like jackasses while they macro mine in Genesis. If you're really actually not going to quit, stop making the forums so unpleasant. And if you really are going to quit, please take your rage out the door to your new MMO. Because the noise in here is coming from so many directions anyhow, nobody can see anything or possibly read it all. Here's something to think about: So there's Incarna, an expansion announced over 4 years ago, eagerly awaited. An expansion that was meant to bring droves of new players into the game as finally they would be able to leave their ships and have a personal connection to their avatar in a way that wasn't possible before. Even though this "fantastic" expansion was finally released, player numbers haven't risen whatsoever. Very few new players are checking the game out, it's mostly oldtimers checking in again and people who usually play a lot less making some free time to check out this expansion properly. In short: Wait for next week for judging the online numbers. "If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all"
Desert Ice78 Gryphon River Industries R-I-P	Posted - 2011.06.26 00:26:00 - [59] Edited by: Desert Ice78 on 26/06/2011 00:27:01 People can be sometimes quite myopic when then really want to believe something. Take Hilmar for instance; the laudes everyone in CCP for the "success" of Incarna by telling them that they have already sold 52 monocles. How hard was it for him to ignore just how many people disabled the feature as soon as they first docked up? Ignoring the sinking ship under you is going to get you quite wet, very soon..... CCP: Consistency since 2003
Mr Epeen	Posted - 2011.06.26 00:34:00 - [60] Originally by: Black Dranzer I'm assuming you've never cancelled a subscription before. You can keep playing until your game time runs out. You can... But why would you? YOU QUIT, FFS! GO AWAY! You and all the other quitters have shown your hand. Made your point. Stop hanging around desperately trying to milk sympathy for your lost cause and suck other people into your pathetic little world. Begone, fools Mr Epeen

Croniac Merlin Reach	Posted - 2011.06.26 03:18:00 - [61] Originally by: Vice Admiral Spreadsheet Uh oh. The trolls are resorting to personal insults. I guess the OP caught them out. "We're gonna unsub! Honestly! First, I just want to shoot this monument! And run this mission! And have a quick roam!" Here's a thought: Why are unsubbers protesting, when they're going to "leave the game forever"? Because they're cowards and liars, and will resub after a week, if they've even told the truth about unsubbing in the first place! Yep.
Adunh Slavy	Posted - 2011.06.26 03:22:00 - [62] Are the white knights crying? Aww. My faith in CCP will return SoonÖ
Drone 16	Posted - 2011.06.26 03:25:00 - [63] Originally by: Croniac Originally by: Black Dranzer I'm assuming you've never cancelled a subscription before. You can keep playing until your game time runs out. I know you CAN continue to play.. But why would you, remember, you hate eve now... So why would you want to stay? People are mad at a potential change in direction in a game they love and that equals hatred of the game in your mind? Great logic, you 12 or just slow?
Ranger 1 Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent	Posted - 2011.06.26 03:32:00 - [64] Originally by: Drone 16 Originally by: Croniac Originally by: Black Dranzer I'm assuming you've never cancelled a subscription before. You can keep playing until your game time runs out. I know you CAN continue to play.. But why would you, remember, you hate eve now... So why would you want to stay? People are mad at a potential change in direction in a game they love and that equals hatred of the game in your mind? Great logic, you 12 or just slow? People are mad at a potential change in direction in a game they love and show it by quitting (moronic in itself), and then prove the point by... wait for it... continuing to play. Great logic indeed. ===== The world will not end in 2012, however there will be a serious nerf to Planetary Interaction.
Bomberlocks Minmatar CTRL-Q	Posted - 2011.06.26 03:34:00 - [65] Until then, I can log on. Cba, though. \| \| \| V --------------------- Countdown to sub running out: 7 days.
Linar Mardolak Minmatar Phlogiston Absorption	Posted - 2011.06.26 03:36:00 - [66] Originally by: Croniac Originally by: Black Dranzer I'm assuming you've never cancelled a subscription before. You can keep playing until your game time runs out. I know you CAN continue to play.. But why would you, remember, you hate eve now... So why would you want to stay? If anyone posting angrily here or in the protests hated Eve, they'd not be trying to save it. You're the one not trying to save it.
Ehdward	Posted - 2011.06.26 03:36:00 - [67] I hate this game! But I will keep playing religiously until my account runs out...
ALLYOURMONEY BELONGTOUS	Posted - 2011.06.26 03:36:00 - [68] hey op!!!
Croniac Merlin Reach	Posted - 2011.06.26 03:36:00 - [69] Originally by: Drone 16 People are mad at a potential change in direction in a game they love and that equals hatred of the game in your mind? Great logic, you 12 or just slow? People are making personal attacks on employees of a company, they are spamming missiles at indestructible objects, and I have to presume, chasing off potential new players via these forum posts and in game actions... They claim to be a big majority, but at no time have exceeded 5% of the total online population. You've already stopped reading, but let me just say, I'm not a fan of the NeX idea either and I agree it's probably failTech, and if CCP wants to pursue that, they probably will sink the game. HOWEVER, screaming, crying, and spamming are an immature approach. Calling people idiots, and various other absurd accusations is also immature, so if that is your approach also, as it clearly is based on your remark, then you have to admit, you look kinda silly calling ME a 12 year old. I'm not saying don't be upset about something you don't like. I'm saying lets not lie and grandstand about what you're really going to do. Anyone really **ed enough to leave already did. Anyone who stays on just to make life a headache for others is just a thug interested in causing pain, not looking for solution. You are trying to change the course of a corporation, and you're getting miffed because they don't spend their day responding to the ridiculous remarks in this forum... Ever occur to any of you that they are in meetings, or coding changes? No, because every little selfish kid wants his cookie right now. I'm sure they already know you're all **ed off. Now stop trying to destroy the game yourselves, and give them a minute to consider their next move. Yeah, I'm the irrational 5 year old because I suggest thinking instead of calling people names... uh huh, sound logic.
Reed Tiburon Caldari Future Corps Sleeper Social Club	Posted - 2011.06.26 03:38:00 - [70] Originally by: Linar Mardolak Originally by: Croniac Originally by: Black Dranzer I'm assuming you've never cancelled a subscription before. You can keep playing until your game time runs out. I know you CAN continue to play.. But why would you, remember, you hate eve now... So why would you want to stay? If anyone posting angrily here or in the protests hated Eve, they'd not be trying to save it. You're the one not trying to save it. QFT. Seems the alt troll brigade is out in force. --- R.I.P. EVE ONLINE [img]ht

Croniac Merlin Reach	Posted - 2011.06.26 06:03:00 - [71] Originally by: ALLYOURMONEY BELONGTOUS hey op!!! An expertly crafted argument, thanks for taking the time.
Atakhan Minmatar Sterling and Cooper	Posted - 2011.06.26 06:51:00 - [72] Edited by: Atakhan on 26/06/2011 06:52:51 Originally by: Croniac Todays server graph on the eveonline.com front page is tracking precisely on step with last Saturday pre-Incarna. If people really were quitting enmasse, as they claim to be on these forums, it seems like that graph would be a impossible. I would be worried in your case. Look at the 'All time' graph. The average number of online customers has gone from 40k down to 14k. I would guess that this is also reflected in the number of subscriptions. What EVE needs are more subscriptions, not fewer ones. The recent events have accelerated this downward spiral, regardless if some of the quitters come back or not. Sit back and watch EVE dying slowly and ask yourself in two years time if passive fanboys and mismanagement by CCP were the reason or what.
Aineko Macx	Posted - 2011.06.26 06:54:00 - [73] Originally by: Croniac Originally by: Black Dranzer I'm assuming you've never cancelled a subscription before. You can keep playing until your game time runs out. I know you CAN continue to play.. But why would you, remember, you hate eve now... So why would you want to stay? No, we don't hate eve. We just don't want to give CCP money anymore. After all, $ is the only language they understand. ________________________ CCP: Where fixing bugs is a luxury, not an obligation.
Korah Arnelle	Posted - 2011.06.26 06:58:00 - [74] Edited by: Korah Arnelle on 26/06/2011 06:59:01 Originally by: Vice Admiral Spreadsheet Uh oh. Here's a thought: Why are unsubbers protesting, when they're going to "leave the game forever"? Because they're devoted fans to a game they use to love, but have lost their love for the management of the game by CCP, and will not resub if Hilmar doesn't HTFU and publicly state game changing MT will never be introduced to the NeX! FTFY :3
Kiran Minmatar Knights of Azrael	Posted - 2011.06.26 06:58:00 - [75] Originally by: Croniac Todays server graph on the eveonline.com front page is tracking precisely on step with last Saturday pre-Incarna. If people really were quitting enmasse, as they claim to be on these forums, it seems like that graph would be a impossible. So while I get that some folks really do have their panties in a wad about this, I think a lot of people posting on this forum are just using this as an opportunity to act like jackasses while they macro mine in Genesis. If you're really actually not going to quit, stop making the forums so unpleasant. And if you really are going to quit, please take your rage out the door to your new MMO. Because the noise in here is coming from so many directions anyhow, nobody can see anything or possibly read it all. We are not complaining about Incarna we are complaining about microtransactions, and the fact CCP wants to make you buy ammo, ships, ship mods etc from the NEX store. On top of a monthly subscription fee. And I mean make you buy the items, because they will be suppiour to the ones we can make or find in game. The NEX store is not just there for vanity items, although at the moment that may look like it is. Please read the forums and the leaked news letter from CCP.
RougeOperator	Posted - 2011.06.26 07:04:00 - [76] Originally by: Kiran Originally by: Croniac Todays server graph on the eveonline.com front page is tracking precisely on step with last Saturday pre-Incarna. If people really were quitting enmasse, as they claim to be on these forums, it seems like that graph would be a impossible. So while I get that some folks really do have their panties in a wad about this, I think a lot of people posting on this forum are just using this as an opportunity to act like jackasses while they macro mine in Genesis. If you're really actually not going to quit, stop making the forums so unpleasant. And if you really are going to quit, please take your rage out the door to your new MMO. Because the noise in here is coming from so many directions anyhow, nobody can see anything or possibly read it all. We are not complaining about Incarna we are complaining about microtransactions, and the fact CCP wants to make you buy ammo, ships, ship mods etc from the NEX store. On top of a monthly subscription fee. And I mean make you buy the items, because they will be suppiour to the ones we can make or find in game. The NEX store is not just there for vanity items, although at the moment that may look like it is. Please read the forums and the leaked news letter from CCP. People are compalining about CQ overheating GPUs. And lack of anything substitive or special about the CQs. People are complaining about microtrans in the context that a leaked memo, comments at fanfest etc show they plan to do more then just vanity items. Then came the Lies on top of it all. And non response and the big FU email leak. Its not just one thing its a culmination of many things and the leak of what CCP really things of its players.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar The Python Cartel. The Defenders of Pen Island	Posted - 2011.06.26 07:06:00 - [77] the relationship between CCP and the playerbase are like any relationship... with the feelings and the lies upon lies!!!!
Monstress	Posted - 2011.06.26 07:06:00 - [78] Those who are unsubbed are still logging in to protest. Imagine taking all of those people in all the trade hubs protesting and take them out of the game entirely. The numbers would shift a little, not much though.
Mortania Minmatar No Compromise Gentlemen's Agreement	Posted - 2011.06.26 07:08:00 - [79] I haven't logged in since I cancelled. I've also filed a petition to try and get my multimonth subscription turned into a monthly one so that it cancels out sooner.
Harcosi	Posted - 2011.06.26 07:11:00 - [80] Originally by: Croniac People are making personal attacks on employees of a company, they are spamming missiles at indestructible objects, and I have to presume, chasing off potential new players via these forum posts and in game actions... Missiles? Dude, people aren't that stupid. My Domi had LaZ0RZ on them, most other people's ships did too.

Conrad Lionhart Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.26 07:13:00 - [81] It's obvious they're not quitting. It's just a ploy to get CCP to do what they want, at the expense of everyone else.
Oh'Freddled Gruntbuggly	Posted - 2011.06.26 07:13:00 - [82] Originally by: SNeAkYbRiT Edited by: SNeAkYbRiT on 25/06/2011 23:18:10 what another one that doesnt understand monthly subs...whos going to explain to this one? CCP will, with a leaked email saying there wasn't really that many people logged in, and that it's his perception of the graph that is at fault.
Fractal Muse	Posted - 2011.06.26 07:20:00 - [83] Edited by: Fractal Muse on 26/06/2011 07:22:36 Originally by: Croniac They claim to be a big majority, but at no time have exceeded 5% of the total online population. I have yet to see anyone who was cancelling claim to be a majority. Let alone a big majority. I wouldn't even put the number at 5%... yet. But, here's the thing, as it was pointed out after a major and anticipated expansion the numbers online usually jump significantly. This weekend we're not even seeing that. Further, if in less than a week after the release of an expansion the game has lost 5% (your number) of its subscription base that is horrible. Even at a more reasonable and probably more accurate 2% (maybe 1% maybe 3%) the number is dismal. This is how all major MMOs that failed started. One bad patch or release then a minority screaming about the game. That minority was ignored or, worse, had responses from the gaming company that showed arrogance, contempt, and / or deceit. The minority continued to grow. Within months, the game would be down to about 10% of it's population high. The game continues.. it doesn't 'die' so much as go into a holding state. A couple have slowly begun to recover (Warhammer Online, LotR) and some remain mere shadows of what they were and what they could have been. EVE is facing that situation right now. CCP has it within its power to correct this course by coming clean with the strategic plan for the near and distant future but every day they remain silent or dismissive of their customers they are allowing the "snowball" of discontent to grow. Today we saw more long time players cancel their accounts. Tomorrow, chances are, we'll see even more as people realize how CCP is treating them. This whole storm of negativity is really just the outcome of a gradual build-up. This was the last thing that put a lot of people over the edge. All of that disillusionment, frustration, sadness, and anxiety about the game spilled over because of how CCP handled not just the expansion but also the 'leaking' of documents. edit: forgot to delete the rest of the quote! oops. It's late.
Twisted Xistance unholy alliance	Posted - 2011.06.26 07:20:00 - [84] Originally by: Croniac Todays server graph on the eveonline.com front page is tracking precisely on step with last Saturday pre-Incarna. If people really were quitting enmasse, as they claim to be on these forums, it seems like that graph would be a impossible. So while I get that some folks really do have their panties in a wad about this, I think a lot of people posting on this forum are just using this as an opportunity to act like jackasses while they macro mine in Genesis. If you're really actually not going to quit, stop making the forums so unpleasant. And if you really are going to quit, please take your rage out the door to your new MMO. Because the noise in here is coming from so many directions anyhow, nobody can see anything or possibly read it all. > Please remember that when serious new content comes out in eve many players who have previously cancelled their subs temporarily return to take a look > Subs take time to expire > I've been on and off eve since vanilla and though I've seen people threaten to quit about stuff before its never been anything like this, I have never since the dawn of eve when I was playing with wayz seen such an angry response from the player base about anything > What is happening now is that eve is losing the players that have supported CCP through thick and thin, the ones that make up the numbers when temporary buzzes wear off and the casual players cancel their subs. <<<<<<My girlfreind left me because I dont have a car... jokes on her, I have a command ship now>>>>>>
Jaxom Asgard	Posted - 2011.06.26 07:22:00 - [85] As to are CCP going to introduce non vanity items into EVE, the answer to that question has already been given, it's YES they are. DUST will be P2W from the outset, there for allowing items to be spawned into the oh so precious sandbox with the power of your wallet. This will not effect EVE? well what about all that POS fuel you were making before a bunch of P2W Merc's turned up & flipped your Planets? Time to accept it or at least make the best of it, or if you've said you going to leave because it brakes your game, leave! Biomass those Characters and don't come back anywhere ever..... 'But but then I couldn't come back in a week or two, when this all quietens down and everyone's calmed down a bit, and I've realized how addicted to EVE I am, and besides I didn't really have any intention of really quitting!' But here's the rub, what's going on is FUN! people are enjoying themselves, protesting shooting monuments in Jita, etc sure as hell beats ice mining! So protest have a bit of fun, and enjoy the game.... but keep it polite and constructive please. name calling, threats, and destruction of property (real world), are not cool & will not further this cause.
Diomedes Calypso	Posted - 2011.06.26 07:23:00 - [86] Originally by: Croniac Todays server graph on the eveonline.com front page is tracking precisely on step with last Saturday pre-Incarna. If people really were quitting enmasse, as they claim to be on these forums, it seems like that graph would be a impossible. So while I get that some folks really do have their panties in a wad about this, I think a lot of people posting on this forum are just using this as an opportunity to act like jackasses while they macro mine in Genesis. If you're really actually not going to quit, stop making the forums so unpleasant. And if you really are going to quit, please take your rage out the door to your new MMO. Because the noise in here is coming from so many directions anyhow, nobody can see anything or possibly read it all. i left two alts orbitting the monument in ammarr all day long while playing tanks ,, walking the dog, painting some bookshelfs etc.. i think im done though with the protest and will just play other games more for a month till it all sorts out and i decide whehter i can trust them to balance the game for optimum game fun if its coutner to their mt motivations.
Fire Watch	Posted - 2011.06.26 07:25:00 - [87] Why do folks like the OP never think before they post?
Demure Guise	Posted - 2011.06.26 07:25:00 - [88] Originally by: Croniac If people really were quitting enmasse, as they claim to be on these forums, it seems like that graph would be a impossible. Not to rational people who understand these mystical concepts such as "monthly subscriptions". Have you worked out what you missed? Take your time. Who knows what the nest few months will bring - maybe people will quit, maybe not. It depends how long ÇÇP can do the "Bull**** Whilst Evading The Actual Question" dance.
Rocom	Posted - 2011.06.26 08:04:00 - [89] Edited by: Rocom on 26/06/2011 08:13:55 Edited by: Rocom on 26/06/2011 08:12:49 At the very least if ur gonna insult thousands of fellow player who are actively trying turn the game away from its destructive path, please understand what's going before u do it. Also, about that 5% figure u gave us, how much out of the total number of players who play EVE do u think are the vocal minority? Anyone can see that the vast majority of players who've bothered to give their response about recent events are outraged/dissatisfied about the direction CCP is taking with eve. Who's to say that doesnt reflect the silent majority? Thousands are talking and many many more are listening. Don't think they dont have a vested interest in what we "ragers" have to say too. EDIT: Also CCP's response to the community is like slapping us in the face and telling us to shut up. They've lied to us and completely disregard what we the playerbase is saying. Some try to rationalize it by saying its business. Believe it or not there are ethics in business as well as the importance of maintaining good publicity. Alienating ur customers is not good business.
Enna Shendara	Posted - 2011.06.26 08:06:00 - [90] Edited by: Enna Shendara on 26/06/2011 08:12:41 Originally by: Croniac Originally by: Black Dranzer I'm assuming you've never cancelled a subscription before. You can keep playing until your game time runs out. I know you CAN continue to play.. But why would you, remember, you hate eve now... So why would you want to stay? To spread the word, and to protest. Most of the people who have unsubscribed have done it under protest. They would re-sub in a heartbeat if CCP made the appropriate responses. They don't hate eve, they love it. Thats what this is about. This isn't "This game is no longer what I want, I hate it and am leaving", this is "What the fuck are you doing to my game you horrible cunts, I don't want to see it die like this". Originally by: Croniac They claim to be a big majority, but at no time have exceeded 5% of the total online population. If you were a politician, and 5% of your population was screaming for your blood, would you be worried? I would. 5% is a significant amount. Its 20,000 people. When I started playing, that was as many people as had ever logged on at once. Now, its the average number of players on TQ at any given moment. To have the equivalent of your fully populated server up in arms about a change, that's big. I've been playing this game since 07. I've seen boot.ini, I've seen the summer of discontent. I've seen the removal of the classic client, and I tell you, I've never seen anything like this. This isn't just mere whining, and if you don't understand that, you are either brand new or have been playing with your eyes closed for years. This is full blown, full blooded rage. This is a game developer taking a sharp left turn from the direction its only consumerbase wants to go, and I genuinely fear it could be the death of eve. The scariest thing is, this is what I want. I love eve, but I'd rather see it die in a fiery blaze of rage from the community then let it slowly ooze into an entirely different game, where IRL riches = in game power, and nothing you do matters, ever.

Majmuna	Posted - 2011.06.26 08:12:00 - [91] Originally by: Croniac Originally by: Black Dranzer I'm assuming you've never cancelled a subscription before. You can keep playing until your game time runs out. I know you CAN continue to play.. But why would you, remember, you hate eve now... So why would you want to stay? But we dont hate EVE. Whe hate what it is COMMING to be. That's why we are enraged and chose to riot about it. We want EVE to still be THE gorgeous game.
Maddi5on	Posted - 2011.06.26 08:16:00 - [92] My brain almost popped when i saw the title to this one :) Incarna: how to obtain your free mono...
Karia Sur	Posted - 2011.06.26 08:17:00 - [93] Originally by: Vice Admiral Spreadsheet AHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAH "I cancelled my account because this game sucks!" And then they continue playing it. What a joke! Even then, the protests contain a lot of people who won't unsub. There seems to be next to no ingame support. Protestors attempting to plead their case that "If CCP sell pants, they're going to sell SP!" is being shot out of the sky by randoms in local. your missing the point completely. I cancelled my account not because Eve sux, but because I personally (along with others), feel that Pay2Win will kill Eve. If we actually hated the game, we wouldnt give a **** about what was happening, we'd just disappear quietly. Thats why you will find that a lot of the protestors are still playing. Some will have cancelled their accounts (like myself), as they are not prepared to give any more $$$s to a company that quite obviously is now run entirely on greed and has proven numerous times that they do not listen to its customer base. When subs run out, unless CCP do a massive damage control excercise, most of these players will then disappear for good. I also think 1 problem that you have is that you dont understand the fundamentals of what the protests are about. They are not about the individuals protesting, they are aimed at the whole Eve community. Some of us can see P2W as been the death of Eve. As we love it so much, we are trying to make a stand to stop P2W before its too late.
Majmuna	Posted - 2011.06.26 08:19:00 - [94] Originally by: Vice Admiral Spreadsheet Uh oh. The trolls are resorting to personal insults. I guess the OP caught them out. "We're gonna unsub! Honestly! First, I just want to shoot this monument! And run this mission! And have a quick roam!" Here's a thought: Why are unsubbers protesting, when they're going to "leave the game forever"? Because they're cowards and liars, and will resub after a week, if they've even told the truth about unsubbing in the first place! Oh how wrong you are. We are protesting against changes that we fear will come - all we want is confirmation these changes WONT come. And I repeat, we actually love EVE. So what is that inconsistent in showing CCP what we will do with quitting, while using the pre-paid time to protest ingame? Please, use your logic. It helps.
Majmuna	Posted - 2011.06.26 08:24:00 - [95] Originally by: Croniac Originally by: Drone 16 People are mad at a potential change in direction in a game they love and that equals hatred of the game in your mind? Great logic, you 12 or just slow? People are making personal attacks on employees of a company, they are spamming missiles at indestructible objects, and I have to presume, chasing off potential new players via these forum posts and in game actions... They claim to be a big majority, but at no time have exceeded 5% of the total online population. You've already stopped reading, but let me just say, I'm not a fan of the NeX idea either and I agree it's probably failTech, and if CCP wants to pursue that, they probably will sink the game. HOWEVER, screaming, crying, and spamming are an immature approach. Calling people idiots, and various other absurd accusations is also immature, so if that is your approach also, as it clearly is based on your remark, then you have to admit, you look kinda silly calling ME a 12 year old. I'm not saying don't be upset about something you don't like. I'm saying lets not lie and grandstand about what you're really going to do. Anyone really **ed enough to leave already did. Anyone who stays on just to make life a headache for others is just a thug interested in causing pain, not looking for solution. You are trying to change the course of a corporation, and you're getting miffed because they don't spend their day responding to the ridiculous remarks in this forum... Ever occur to any of you that they are in meetings, or coding changes? No, because every little selfish kid wants his cookie right now. I'm sure they already know you're all **ed off. Now stop trying to destroy the game yourselves, and give them a minute to consider their next move. Yeah, I'm the irrational 5 year old because I suggest thinking instead of calling people names... uh huh, sound logic. So your strategy of pursuing changes and corrections would be - waiting quietly? In belief "they are meeting and coding"? Uh-oh. Just one thing: why then did NOONE respond to the concerns, ever?
KamikazeBrAzIl Vera Cruz Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.26 08:25:00 - [96] All unsubscribers are trolling in Jita at this moment, until the acc expiration
Valei Khurelem	Posted - 2011.06.26 08:27:00 - [97] Originally by: Ayieka pretty sure these forums were full of unpleasentness even before we all got mad. Yep before it was filled with jackasses who'd troll anyone who actually came up with a genuinely good idea to change the game.
Joxxy	Posted - 2011.06.26 08:28:00 - [98] Ban 2011 ?
Mintoko Gallente Taedium In Perpetuam	Posted - 2011.06.26 08:40:00 - [99] Edited by: Mintoko on 26/06/2011 08:40:24 Originally by: Vice Admiral Spreadsheet AHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAH "I cancelled my account because this game sucks!" And then they continue playing it. What a joke! Even then, the protests contain a lot of people who won't unsub. There seems to be next to no ingame support. Protestors attempting to plead their case that "If CCP sell pants, they're going to sell SP!" is being shot out of the sky by randoms in local. It was already explained that one can unsub and still play until their time runs out.
Adaris	Posted - 2011.06.26 08:42:00 - [100] Originally by: Snake Scofield Breaking news reported around the internet : EvE-Online players are furious that they can't afford a monocle. Are now actively protesting by continuing to play the game and attempting to destroy an indestructible object. QFT ***** - ISK ME UP -**

Faith Clothos	Posted - 2011.06.26 08:54:00 - [101] Originally by: Croniac Originally by: Black Dranzer I'm assuming you've never cancelled a subscription before. You can keep playing until your game time runs out. I know you CAN continue to play.. But why would you, remember, you hate eve now... So why would you want to stay? Nobody hates EVE, its out of caring that this happens. If people hated EVE they wouldn't be trying to save it. Also, its a service that has been paid. Unless CCP offers a refund you are damn right I will use the time remaining in whatever way I wish.
Biomassed everyoneelse	Posted - 2011.06.26 08:59:00 - [102] Or maybe.... They log in to spread the word of the awesome, talkitive dev having, super robot sandbox game, Perpetuum Online. We have an Eve corp for those of you hurt by recent developments.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.26 10:21:00 - [103] Every other expansion has seen a big increase in the number of people on the server. Lots of people reactivate their old accounts to see what the fuss is about, and of course the publicity attracts new players as well. So if the number of people playing is staying the same, then CCP have a problem. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.


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