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Omniwing	Posted - 2011.06.26 20:20:00 - [1] Greetings fellow capsuleers, It has come to my attention that many of you are cancelling subscriptions over the recent microtransaction/Incarna events. Maybe you are coming back in a few months to check things out, maybe you are not. Maybe you want a stable return rate on your cash and you're not quitting at all? This is not a giant "can I have your stuff" post. I am offering a holding company designed to safely invest and increase your funds so that you have a higher stockpile of money should you choose to return. I offer a rate of return of 4% per month, I am very confident that I can use your isk to make more than that, profiting for myself and for yourself. My methodology is market trading. I will offer to keep your account open for as long or short as you like, with immediate withdraw of all or total funds available to you at any time. Your account fund amount will be available upon request and you can watch your isk grow while you don't pay your subscription if you wish. To get in b4 I have never done this before, it is true this is my first attempt at any serious investment. I have played eve for several years and have tried to learn the market, however only recently have I been active and making nice returns. You don't have to be quitting to take advantage of this offer either! So don't let your cancelled subscription sit idle! I can make use of it and everyone wins.
Alyssa Yotosala	Posted - 2011.06.27 01:48:00 - [2] Your business model lacks one fundamental ingredient. Trust. Whats to stop you from running off with the money? How can we trust you? Why are you posting with an alt?
Dealth Striker Caldari Striker Ltd	Posted - 2011.06.27 01:53:00 - [3] Good luck with this. --------------------- Communication is Key!
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.06.27 05:51:00 - [4] This is not an alt. My other character that I use for PVP and junk is Redloc. The reason you can trust me is I have nothing to lose if I honestly invest this money. I've never bought or sold any characters and I intend to continue being a trustworthy person in the EvE universe. Yes, you may find a forum post where I had a dispute with a corp member almost a year ago, he was my RL friend and we had a falling out. Just want to throw that out there before someone digs it up. But it has nothing to do with 'scamming' people, which I will never do. Thank you for your good luck wishes! I only need sound thinking and some solid investors however
Lederstrumpf	Posted - 2011.06.27 06:48:00 - [5] Edited by: Lederstrumpf on 27/06/2011 06:48:43 Originally by: Omniwing The reason you can trust me is I have nothing to lose ^ This. LOL
Jasdemi Interstellar Whine Brewery	Posted - 2011.06.27 08:53:00 - [6] Originally by: Lederstrumpf Edited by: Lederstrumpf on 27/06/2011 06:48:43 Originally by: Omniwing The reason you can trust me is I have nothing to lose ^ This. LOL lulz
Mangold Mad Bombers Guns and Alcohol	Posted - 2011.06.27 09:07:00 - [7] I'll offer 5% per month. Just send the isk to me.
Solstice Project	Posted - 2011.06.27 09:22:00 - [8] I'm sorry to interrupt this, but... You're going to quit the game ! Send me all your money and i'll tripple it ! Thx. :)
Ariel Walker Phoenix	Posted - 2011.06.27 12:37:00 - [9] I will hold your isk/assets charging only a 10% holding fee per year. In the worst-case scenario I might charge 1 plex a month from all combined customers together as additional expense. Characters can be parked in my personal corp with 0% tax rate.
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.06.27 15:14:00 - [10] Edited by: Omniwing on 27/06/2011 15:15:54 Okay, haha, lets tear apart the guy because of his word choice. What I mean by that is I will make a good profit just investing this money and giving it back, I have no reason to scam and I want to begin an honest business within EvE. The people who make the most money are those that people trust, and you have to start somewhere. I am sorry that I can not provide some type of guarantee, but I give you my word that this is not a scam. "Your word is all you're going on here?" Yes. I realize many of you think I'm lying but I am not. This is a legitimate business and a legitimate investment opportunity. The poster above is CHARGING you money to hold your assets...obviously a joke. You will build your assets with me which will be available to you in a greater amount should you choose to come back.

Serene Python	Posted - 2011.06.27 15:39:00 - [11] Originally by: Omniwing Edited by: Omniwing on 27/06/2011 15:15:54 Okay, haha, lets tear apart the guy because of his word choice. What I mean by that is I will make a good profit just investing this money and giving it back, I have no reason to scam and I want to begin an honest business within EvE. The people who make the most money are those that people trust, and you have to start somewhere. I am sorry that I can not provide some type of guarantee, but I give you my word that this is not a scam. "Your word is all you're going on here?" Yes. I realize many of you think I'm lying but I am not. This is a legitimate business and a legitimate investment opportunity. The poster above is CHARGING you money to hold your assets...obviously a joke. You will build your assets with me which will be available to you in a greater amount should you choose to come back. Yeah cause trusted MD members have never scammed here before... Oh wait... The trusted people here have already had/have a successful business/service running and have proven up to a certain amount that they can be trusted. Why would you scam? Because you have nothing to lose. Even if you got 1b isk out of this, you still got isk and lost nothing. If you want to start a business maybe you should try something that doesn't involve people giving all their isk to a person who has very little significant posting history on the forums.
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.06.27 16:11:00 - [12] Well I am open to suggestions on how to make this more trustworthy, or provide at least some kind of a guarantee. I have to start somewhere - why not invest 50m, wait 2 months and then come get it back? In any case, I am interested in making this work. Again, if there are some steps I can take to make this more comfortable for people, I will investigate those. Thank you for reading.
Lederstrumpf	Posted - 2011.06.27 17:20:00 - [13] Edited by: Lederstrumpf on 27/06/2011 17:20:53 Originally by: Omniwing I am open to suggestions on how to make this more trustworthy Maybe you could give a bit more details on what you do consider to be a "safe investment"?!? ("holding company designed to safely invest")
Nak hak	Posted - 2011.06.27 20:51:00 - [14] Get a 4% return on company credit from a company that some customers no long will have a relationship with in future. Everyone profits. You, the company, and the meat Popsicle(The Mark.). Okay not meat Popsicle. Best Regards. Nak hak, The Self-Righteous
Roguehalo Caldari Roguehalo Ship Brokers	Posted - 2011.06.27 20:53:00 - [15] This is without doubt the WORSE thread I ever saw in MD :(
Dethmourne Silvermane Gallente Saiph Industries SRS.	Posted - 2011.06.27 21:25:00 - [16] I'll offer a 2% ROI, since I have at LEAST double the rep of OP. Pending approval from current investors to pay them back with the funds I reap from such an offer, of course.
vasuul	Posted - 2011.06.27 23:05:00 - [17] lol go biomass your self my stuffs will be plenty safe in my hangar till i see what is going to happen and if it goes bad my corp and alliance mates that stay will have a nice early Christmas prezzie
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.06.27 23:29:00 - [18] Edited by: Omniwing on 27/06/2011 23:31:25 Originally by: Roguehalo This is without doubt the WORSE thread I ever saw in MD :( Well at least it isn't the worst. I realize some of you are attacking me because you think I am a scammer. I can understand your rage. This is not a scam. How do I safely invest. I have two main things I do, PI(not extraction, but conversation of materials) this is done over a long period of time, with products stored up from good buy orders and then refined and sold when the price point is right. Secondly, I buy and resell items in a few different regions, mostly mission loot and ammo, obviously at a good margin. I have got the hang of making long term investments come to fruition and I understand how I can effectively use more cash. There aren't any "marks", I am not going to steal anything from anyone.
Lederstrumpf	Posted - 2011.06.28 13:45:00 - [19] Edited by: Lederstrumpf on 28/06/2011 13:45:42 Originally by: Omniwing How do I safely invest. I have two main things I do, PI(not extraction, but conversation of materials) this is done over a long period of time, with products stored up from good buy orders and then refined and sold when the price point is right. Secondly, I buy and resell items in a few different regions, mostly mission loot and ammo, obviously at a good margin. How can you guarantee "price points to be right" or "good buy orders" to be fulfilled or not to suffer loss during transports? There is no such thing as safe investment, advertising an investment like this as such is a dishonest act, therefore you are fail.
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.06.28 15:03:00 - [20] @Previous Uh, actually, its really east to make returns as long as you don't expect them to be absolutely insane, but even a numbskull can figure out how to buy and sell stuff pretty easily... if your argument against me is "trading is so hard, you'll never be able to get 5% + of your investment back each month" then sorry, YOU are the failure, because that is pretty easy to do. There are such things as safe investments. If you take something like cruise missiles and they've been selling for around 170 isk for the past 12 months, and you buy at 45isk and sell at 169, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO LOSE YOUR INVESTMENT. The worst thing that can happen is you don't buy your 45 isk missiles, but don't worry, someone always sells. Basically, last post is a troll. This is not dishonest. Now if you add in spreadsheets, and all of the market tools available, yes, it gets even easier! Also you mentioned transport, I rarely transport items, and if I did, I know how to do it correctly which makes your chances of losing your shipment near zip. But that point isn't really important. This is not freaking dishonest guys, I am legitimately trying to start a legitimate business here, won't someone give me a chance?

Serene Python	Posted - 2011.06.28 15:24:00 - [21] Originally by: Omniwing This is not freaking dishonest guys, I am legitimately trying to start a legitimate business here, won't someone give me a chance? No
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.06.28 15:46:00 - [22] Originally by: Serene Python Originally by: Omniwing This is not freaking dishonest guys, I am legitimately trying to start a legitimate business here, won't someone give me a chance? No Thanks, your lack of funds was informative enough.
Faith Clothos	Posted - 2011.06.28 15:58:00 - [23] This reads like a terrible "Can I haz your stuff" attempt. What happens to the stuff of the people who aren't coming back? Also, if they are not planning to come back what advantage does 4% more money in a game they no longer play confer them, even if we assumed you to be legit (which we dont).
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.06.28 16:09:00 - [24] Edited by: Omniwing on 28/06/2011 16:10:27 Originally by: Faith Clothos This reads like a terrible "Can I haz your stuff" attempt. What happens to the stuff of the people who aren't coming back? Also, if they are not planning to come back what advantage does 4% more money in a game they no longer play confer them, even if we assumed you to be legit (which we dont). Please don't speak for other people. As you are not them. If someone doesn't come back, then their money continues to grow while I hold onto it, for an indefinite amount of time. I will not assume any investment is 'given up' or 'forfeited' unless someone specifically contacted me and said "I'm never coming back, you can HAVE this isk", but otherwise, no, it will just be a chunk of money that I use to invest, and even if they came back after 5 years, they would get it plus a ton more back.
Chevalleis The Legendary Conquest	Posted - 2011.06.28 16:26:00 - [25] Originally by: Omniwing Edited by: Omniwing on 28/06/2011 16:10:27 Originally by: Faith Clothos This reads like a terrible "Can I haz your stuff" attempt. What happens to the stuff of the people who aren't coming back? Also, if they are not planning to come back what advantage does 4% more money in a game they no longer play confer them, even if we assumed you to be legit (which we dont). Please don't speak for other people. As you are not them. If someone doesn't come back, then their money continues to grow while I hold onto it, for an indefinite amount of time. I will not assume any investment is 'given up' or 'forfeited' unless someone specifically contacted me and said "I'm never coming back, you can HAVE this isk", but otherwise, no, it will just be a chunk of money that I use to invest, and even if they came back after 5 years, they would get it plus a ton more back. What if you heard that eve was 3 days from closing? Would you buy the biggest ship you could and blow it up or take the investors' money into places beyond?
Faith Clothos	Posted - 2011.06.28 16:27:00 - [26] Originally by: Omniwing Edited by: Omniwing on 28/06/2011 16:10:27 Originally by: Faith Clothos This reads like a terrible "Can I haz your stuff" attempt. What happens to the stuff of the people who aren't coming back? Also, if they are not planning to come back what advantage does 4% more money in a game they no longer play confer them, even if we assumed you to be legit (which we dont). Please don't speak for other people. As you are not them. If someone doesn't come back, then their money continues to grow while I hold onto it, for an indefinite amount of time. I will not assume any investment is 'given up' or 'forfeited' unless someone specifically contacted me and said "I'm never coming back, you can HAVE this isk", but otherwise, no, it will just be a chunk of money that I use to invest, and even if they came back after 5 years, they would get it plus a ton more back. So you are saying that no matter the amount of isk you got, and for how long, you would be able to make 4% on in a month without fail? What happens if you quit, get sick, make a bad call, etc? I assume this is compound interest, yes? What is your personal fortune, and what proof do you have of it? Someone so talented must surely have trollions of isk by now.
Dethmourne Silvermane Gallente Saiph Industries SRS.	Posted - 2011.06.28 16:28:00 - [27] Originally by: Omniwing I have two main things I do, PI(not extraction, but conversation of materials) I too have long chats with my PI goods.
Tansen89	Posted - 2011.06.28 17:00:00 - [28] "Trust me my pvp main will thank you for your investment" PS no refunds
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.06.28 20:19:00 - [29] What happens if you quit, get sick, make a bad call, etc? I am not going to quit or get sick and die. What happens if any of these people on MD get sick and die? Making a bad call isn't really applicable as you can pretty much buy safe...If an item were to crash in price, there are tons of others I am also buying at good prices. Yes, the interest is compound, and yes, I believe I can keep it up. I think I'd have to reach a rather large sum before maintaining that would be impossible.
Faith Clothos	Posted - 2011.06.28 20:32:00 - [30] Originally by: Omniwing What happens if you quit, get sick, make a bad call, etc? I am not going to quit or get sick and die. What happens if any of these people on MD get sick and die? Making a bad call isn't really applicable as you can pretty much buy safe...If an item were to crash in price, there are tons of others I am also buying at good prices. Yes, the interest is compound, and yes, I believe I can keep it up. I think I'd have to reach a rather large sum before maintaining that would be impossible. Screw 4%, tell me about your health provider.

Taser2	Posted - 2011.06.29 03:14:00 - [31] Don't know why everyone's hating this idea so much. Yes there's a chance it's a scam but you have that with any investment. It's actually not a bad idea. Honestly, %50(and that's a generous estimate) of the people that invest with him arent going to be coming back to the game so worst case scenario it's treated like an insurance company in that the people that return get paid with the money that will be uncollected because the owner doesn't return. The only way he gets screwed is if more than %50 of the investors return at the same time and want to collect their isk. I would feel a little better if he agrees to use RL money through PLEX's to cover any investment he's unable to pay out but, again, it's just a verbal agreement which doesnt mean much in eve. I feel like eve turns everyone in to distrustful cynics, but I guess when experiences tend to keep proving you cynics right I should maybe take a hint.
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.06.29 04:05:00 - [32] Thank you, Taser, for your reasonable words. I promise that I will pay out and use my own isk to pay out to investors if everyone withdraws at once. I promise if I get a lot of investments and the compound 4% becomes too much to handle, that I will close off further deposits and attempt to return investments to those who I can reach and attempt to grow/hold investments for those who have not returned to the best of my ability. Since I can not hold it forever, I have decided on a once per year contact basis. If you are a cancel person, once per 13 months you must contact me to let me know you may return someday. If I receive no communication for you for 13 months, your deposit will be assumed as forfeit but I will give it back if I can if you come back. However I must protect the active investor's money first. Is this reasonable? I can revise it.
Liberty Eternal	Posted - 2011.06.29 04:07:00 - [33] Originally by: Omniwing If I receive no communication for you for 13 months, your deposit will be assumed as forfeit but I will give it back if I can if you come back. However I must protect the active investor's money first. Protect it from what? Is there an isk-monster going round eating investors isk?
Jerry Pepridge	Posted - 2011.06.29 04:11:00 - [34] i'd like to pledge 10b _________________________________________________ Misty McGinnity Doesn't have an iPhone.
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.06.29 04:25:00 - [35] Edited by: Omniwing on 29/06/2011 04:26:44 Jerry Pepridge, your account will be opened for 10b upon successful transfer of funds. You may transfer isk to this char (Omniwing). Upon successful transfer I will update this thread and temporarily close deposits until I have a stable rate of return on new investments.
Liberty Eternal	Posted - 2011.06.29 04:40:00 - [36] Wait a second, wait! Look, this is the third time this has happened to me and someone has taken an investment I was interested in. Jerry - no offence to you I don't know you and I'm sure you didn't mean to jump in front of me, but is there any way we could go halves on this? I'm looking to put in about 5b - maybe we can increase the overall bond size if Jerry is comfortable with that?
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.06.29 04:57:00 - [37] I am fine with 5b from Jerry Pepridge and 5b from Liberty Eternal if that is fine with you two. I will update with successful isk transfers, and again, if this goes through I will be temporarily closing deposits.
Liberty Eternal	Posted - 2011.06.29 05:10:00 - [38] Thanks for cutting me in Omniwing, I won't be checking the forums for another 24 hours now so just evemail me later if it's still ok to send the 5b
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.06.29 17:02:00 - [39] Both Libery eternal and Liberty Eternal have not contacted me in game nor sent any isk. At this point they appear to be trolls. This is still a legitimate business offering and I am still accepting deposits.
Faith Clothos	Posted - 2011.06.29 17:12:00 - [40] Ah what the hell, I'll send you the 10 billion.

Tansen89	Posted - 2011.06.29 17:22:00 - [41] You guys remember that guy who said he'll take all that christian money and life savings so that they wouldn't be burdened by that rapture dealie and worry about all that money on the earth? I wonder how hes doing now
Faith Clothos	Posted - 2011.06.29 17:23:00 - [42] Originally by: Omniwing Both Libery eternal and Liberty Eternal have not contacted me in game nor sent any isk. At this point they appear to be trolls. This is still a legitimate business offering and I am still accepting deposits. Wait.. both Liberty eternal and Liberty Eternal? If you can't even type how can you guard my valuable space money? Offer rescinded. I'll just have to spend my money myself
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.06.29 21:32:00 - [43] My mistake, I meant Liberty Eternal and Jerry Pepridge. Deposits are still open for legitimate investors
Faith Clothos	Posted - 2011.06.29 21:39:00 - [44] Originally by: Omniwing My mistake, I meant Liberty Eternal and Jerry Pepridge. Deposits are still open for legitimate investors Well, okay I'll let that one slide. If you are still taking deposits then I'll send you my cash before I quit. Take good care of it. Is 10 billion the limit? I may have a bit more than that.
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.06.30 01:03:00 - [45] Faith, Yes, that would be the limit at this time. I think it will likely be a lot of work to earn 4% on that much isk, but I will do it :)
Sawny Bean Xeno Tech Corp	Posted - 2011.06.30 01:07:00 - [46] The op used to be in my corp. He was forever on about how to get rich quick schemes. Eventually there was an incident whereby he and an rl friend that played eve had a falling out. They dragged it to the forums and had a very embarrassing airing out of laundry that revealed much about both parties loyalty and trust. I subsequently kicked both members. After watching those events unfold, I would not trust the op with any amount of isk.
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.06.30 02:55:00 - [47] As I already stated, I did have a falling out with a real life friend, which has nothing to do with this game. I have never, and will never scam anyone. That is more than Sawny can say. I am attempting to begin a legitimate presence on the forums. I realize that it is rare.
Jerry Pepridge	Posted - 2011.06.30 02:57:00 - [48] isk send to tawny _________________________________________________ Misty McGinnity Doesn't have an iPhone.
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.06.30 16:26:00 - [49] Deposits are still open. You have my word that this is not a scam, this is not a lie, I promise that I will protect your money and give it back, and that this is a legit deal. However you are all doing a good job of making me really disgruntled and upset with the trolling, this EvE universe is too harsh for an honest person sometimes :( I have to take the brunt of rage that people who scammed have brought down. THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS
Faith Clothos	Posted - 2011.06.30 16:40:00 - [50] Originally by: Omniwing Edited by: Omniwing on 30/06/2011 16:38:10 Deposits are still open. You have my word that this is not a scam, this is not a lie, I promise that I will protect your money and give it back, and that this is a legit deal. I am so **ing *ed off. I really am going to rage here. I AM SERIOUSLY NOT A BAD PERSON OR SCAMMER. I'm just going to stop posting I guess, since you all TORE ME TO ***ING SHREDS before I began. The reason I am raging so hard is I actually want to do something legitimate and SO MANY PEOPLE have been scammed/hurt that NOBODY **ING TRUSTS ANYONE that isn't like, one of a few very well established people. I can't ing take this world anymore. I am not a bad guy. I can't ing take you guys chewing me apart like I'm a scammer. I don't deserve it. I am not a bad guy. Sawny, what you said, I don't deserve it. All you ***s who are trolling me, I don't deserve it. I'm not a liar. PLEASE STOP BEING MEAN TO ME. Honestly, yes, I am not emotionally tough, okay? I am emo, yes. I am 'nerd raging', yes. lolhemad, yes. Okay? What do you **ing want me to say? What do you want me to do? I AM NOT A BAD GUY. Please don't blow up my ship!

Elise DarkStar	Posted - 2011.06.30 16:46:00 - [51] rofl scammer
Faith Clothos	Posted - 2011.06.30 16:52:00 - [52] In seriousness though, would you like to share with your potential investors the story of what happened?
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.06.30 16:53:00 - [53] Elise, you are both mean, AND WRONG.
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.06.30 17:05:00 - [54] Edited by: Omniwing on 30/06/2011 17:06:27 No Faith, I've shared already what is important: I contracted the person my faction fit navy raven and an extra 600m, double the cost of his loss, the very next day. If contract records and stuff are kept for that long, I'd be happy to post a screenshot if you don't believe me. Look, I realize you people have no reason to trust me. I apologize for being so stupid about this. I am closing all deposits, and I am officially ending this investment opportunity. I am going to work on my investments with my own money and provide updates here for your viewing enjoyment. Thanks for viewing. I hope in the future I can work with some of you.
Liberty Eternal	Posted - 2011.06.30 17:21:00 - [55] Edited by: Liberty Eternal on 30/06/2011 17:21:25 Sorry Omniwing, I've been away on business the last couple days and only just been able to log in to the server. I'll send isk now. Edit: Wait wtf, you're closing it down? Isk sent to Tawny's private offer instead.
Angsty Teenager	Posted - 2011.06.30 17:26:00 - [56] You can send all deposits to me instead. After all, it is hard to stay angsty all the time.
Lederstrumpf	Posted - 2011.07.01 16:00:00 - [57] Originally by: Sawny Bean I subsequently kicked both members. After watching those events unfold, I would not trust the op with any amount of isk. Thumbs up for telling!
Macon Squaredealer Squaredeal Enterprises	Posted - 2011.07.01 16:15:00 - [58] Damn I missed this opportunity to faster posters ___________________________________________ Watch for the Squaredeal Enterprises IPO in the coming months.
Serene Python	Posted - 2011.07.01 21:20:00 - [59] Edited by: Serene Python on 01/07/2011 21:22:40 Originally by: Omniwing Edited by: Omniwing on 30/06/2011 17:06:27 No Faith, I've shared already what is important: I contracted the person my faction fit navy raven and an extra 600m, double the cost of his loss, the very next day. If contract records and stuff are kept for that long, I'd be happy to post a screenshot if you don't believe me. Look, I realize you people have no reason to trust me. I apologize for being so stupid about this. I am closing all deposits, and I am officially ending this investment opportunity. I am going to work on my investments with my own money and provide updates here for your viewing enjoyment. Thanks for viewing. I hope in the future I can work with some of you. You were given sufficient tips on how to safely persue this type of thing. You demonstrated more than enough reasons a person shouldn't invest in you, if anyone does invest in you... Frankly they deserve to be scammed unless they personally know you. edit; grammar
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.07.01 22:58:00 - [60] Previous: You are not correct, had one person trusted me I would've proven myself legit.

Gorki Andropov Kerensky Initiatives	Posted - 2011.07.02 09:22:00 - [61] Originally by: Omniwing Previous: You are not correct, had one person trusted me I would've proven myself legit. And now, thanks to your retardo-rage episode, now no-one will give you that chance. Game, set and match! ----------------------------------------------- "I have not problem with prostitute, but the kiddy dools is to much for me" - Orcan
Serene Python	Posted - 2011.07.02 09:25:00 - [62] Originally by: Omniwing Previous: You are not correct, had one person trusted me I would've proven myself legit. I am not correct about what? That you've been given multiple tips on how to get people to invest in you, that you've demonstrated why people shouldn't invest in you(refusal of putting up collateral or submit to an audit), or that a person deserves to be scammed if they sent you isk in this attempt at getting an investor? Would you like to know why no one trusted you? Maybe you should review this thread from an investors point of view, however seeing as you have no relevant history regarding investing I find this will be a challenge for you. I may not invest in complete strangers but I can at least tell when I'd be ,to put it politely, a fool to invest in a certain person. If you can't comprehend what needed steps you'll need to fulfil before anyone considers investing any serious amount of isk in you then you'll have many more fail threads like this in the future and we'll have just as many laughs at your pitiful attempts.
Kei Darker	Posted - 2011.07.02 17:57:00 - [63] Looks like after today's devblog, there's a lot less reasons for people to be quitting now. This is an interesting thread though. Is anyone in MD actually still unsubbing?
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.07.03 04:38:00 - [64] Edited by: Omniwing on 03/07/2011 04:39:26 Serene, deposits have been closed for days now, as has this argument. And me posting angry posts doesn't have any bearing on people's "future investments". If anything, it just shows that I put forth my honest feelings on these boards and not some fake persona or image.
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.07.03 05:09:00 - [65] Originally by: Gorki Andropov Game, set and match! as hard as I can
Serene Python	Posted - 2011.07.03 12:07:00 - [66] Originally by: Omniwing Edited by: Omniwing on 03/07/2011 04:39:26 Serene, deposits have been closed for days now, as has this argument. And me posting angry posts doesn't have any bearing on people's "future investments". If anything, it just shows that I put forth my honest feelings on these boards and not some fake persona or image. I must be missing all the emorage loan/bond/ipos that were successful... The only 'argument' you've presented is that you're a complete nobody who wanted players leaving to give you their stuff with nothing to secure that you'd give it back. Only thing you gave in terms of a securement was that they can trust you
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.07.03 17:52:00 - [67] Originally by: Serene Python Originally by: Omniwing Edited by: Omniwing on 03/07/2011 04:39:26 Serene, deposits have been closed for days now, as has this argument. And me posting angry posts doesn't have any bearing on people's "future investments". If anything, it just shows that I put forth my honest feelings on these boards and not some fake persona or image. I must be missing all the emorage loan/bond/ipos that were successful... The only 'argument' you've presented is that you're a complete nobody who wanted players leaving to give you their stuff with nothing to secure that you'd give it back. Only thing you gave in terms of a securement was that they can trust you Confirming Serene replies multiple times to complete nobodies.
Serene Python	Posted - 2011.07.03 21:34:00 - [68] Originally by: Omniwing Originally by: Serene Python Originally by: Omniwing Edited by: Omniwing on 03/07/2011 04:39:26 Serene, deposits have been closed for days now, as has this argument. And me posting angry posts doesn't have any bearing on people's "future investments". If anything, it just shows that I put forth my honest feelings on these boards and not some fake persona or image. I must be missing all the emorage loan/bond/ipos that were successful... The only 'argument' you've presented is that you're a complete nobody who wanted players leaving to give you their stuff with nothing to secure that you'd give it back. Only thing you gave in terms of a securement was that they can trust you Confirming Serene replies multiple times to complete nobodies. If you weren't illiterate you would realize that in multiple of my responses I've stated how you could have succeeded at this in a small sense instead you decided to get butt damaged. As for me replying to nobodies, if that's an attempt at an insult you're insulting a majority of the MD community who have help nobodies who're getting started with trading and not trying to scam. I was trying to be genuine with help you, the day you manage to have a successful business using your horrible little business strategy here is the day I buy and give a monocle out for free!
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.07.03 23:47:00 - [69] I have taken the feedback and certainly have learned from the experience. Unfortunately your 'helpful tips' were riddled with insults and anger, as you hold the incorrect opinion that I am a scammer or dishonest. Choosing illiterate is a poor insult against me, if anything else I have obviously been reading the replies. All I tried to do is defend myself from people hurling anger towards me, and I didn't even do anything wrong. Seriously, all I did is come on here with an (apparently) bad idea, and you, and the entire MD community decided to chew me up and spit me out, and you continued to do this after I apologized for not thinking this out more before I posted it and closing deposits. And I admit, I am a sensitive person. So yes. I was a little frustrated.
Elise DarkStar	Posted - 2011.07.04 00:30:00 - [70] lol failed scammer is frustrated about failed scam

Omniwing	Posted - 2011.07.04 00:42:00 - [71] I am not a scammer. I am frustrated because of how mean everyone is being to me, including yourself, previous. I know you and probably nobody else believes that. But it is true.
Nishachara True Enlightenment	Posted - 2011.07.04 03:11:00 - [72] Originally by: Omniwing I am not a scammer. I am frustrated because of how mean everyone is being to me, including yourself, previous. I know you and probably nobody else believes that. But it is true. Are sure you are playing the right game for you ? If you wanna make a pause from eve because of this all "bad blood" towards you, you can contract me your stuff and ill trade with it and give you 15% interest every month. And when you return you'll be richer. -------------------------------------------------
Kei Darker	Posted - 2011.07.04 04:06:00 - [73] One thing that nobody is really bringing up here is that there is no demand for this kind of service... Is that because there is actually a demand, or is it that everyone is having too much fun bashing the OP to bring up the fact that there is no demand? I believe there is little/no demand for this sort of thing, however... I'll offer this service legitimately at 2% fixed interest (non-compounding) / month within reasonable amounts of ISK. It's much less than OPs offer, but I also have considerably more reputation. (If there is actually interest in this sort of thing, I'd need obviously to discuss it with my current investors before moving into this sort of business, as I am currently holding 6B uncollateralized ISK.)
Serene Python	Posted - 2011.07.05 01:52:00 - [74] Originally by: Kei Darker One thing that nobody is really bringing up here is that there is no demand for this kind of service... Is that because there is actually a demand, or is it that everyone is having too much fun bashing the OP to bring up the fact that there is no demand? I'm on both boats. However is such a service was proposed and implemented properly I could see it being successful. Quote: I believe there is little/no demand for this sort of thing, however... I'll offer this service legitimately at 2% fixed interest (non-compounding) / month within reasonable amounts of ISK. It's much less than OPs offer, but I also have considerably more reputation. (If there is actually interest in this sort of thing, I'd need obviously to discuss it with my current investors before moving into this sort of business, as I am currently holding 6B uncollateralized ISK.) I have an extended period of time I will be absent from eve so a service like this might actually interest people who will knowingly be away from eve for a while. Originally by: Omniwing I have taken the feedback and certainly have learned from the experience. Unfortunately your 'helpful tips' were riddled with insults and anger, as you hold the incorrect opinion that I am a scammer or dishonest. Choosing illiterate is a poor insult against me, if anything else I have obviously been reading the replies. All I tried to do is defend myself from people hurling anger towards me, and I didn't even do anything wrong. Seriously, all I did is come on here with an (apparently) bad idea, and you, and the entire MD community decided to chew me up and spit me out, and you continued to do this after I apologized for not thinking this out more before I posted it and closing deposits. And I admit, I am a sensitive person. So yes. I was a little frustrated. Aside from my 'insults and anger' I've hurled, my points stand. If you want this kind of service to be successful you're going to need to have some form of collateral put up or have an audit completed to determine if you could use funds given to you properly. If you can't handle people treating you poorly don't give them fuel for the fire(example: Showing their insults are getting to you, AKA Don't feed the troll(s)). If all I wanted to do in this thread was bash you I wouldn't have even bothered re-iterating things you could have done to make this have a chance of being successful. If you have been successful with your available funds trading now an audit would have confirmed this and then you might have actually got an investment from somebody.
Omniwing	Posted - 2011.07.05 15:05:00 - [75] Edited by: Omniwing on 05/07/2011 15:06:01 Serene, That is fair. I do appreciate your points. I am still trading on my own of course so perhaps sometime soon I can look into getting an audit.


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