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Lightdarkness	Posted - 2011.06.27 00:10:00 - [1] Edited by: Lightdarkness on 27/06/2011 00:10:39 http://forums.perpetuum-online.com/topic/2683/server-load-issues-in-the-last-48-hours/ Think CCP should start sweating soon. Light
Eian	Posted - 2011.06.27 00:11:00 - [2] Originally by: Lightdarkness Edited by: Lightdarkness on 27/06/2011 00:10:39 http://forums.perpetuum-online.com/topic/2683/server-load-issues-in-the-last-48-hours/ Think CCP should start sweating soon. Light Nope.
Saai Einjhar Black Ice Tactical Echelon	Posted - 2011.06.27 00:14:00 - [3] haha this is so cruel to those game developers. Their server max population is 25 people anyway so...
Naloth	Posted - 2011.06.27 00:15:00 - [4] Not really. That game reminds me of something still in Alpha stage. Graphics = / = good game, but that combined with the UI, it borders on being unplayable.
Akrosi	Posted - 2011.06.27 00:15:00 - [5] Originally by: Lightdarkness Edited by: Lightdarkness on 27/06/2011 00:10:39 http://forums.perpetuum-online.com/topic/2683/server-load-issues-in-the-last-48-hours/ Think CCP should start sweating soon. Light "First of all we'd like to welcome the influx of new players to Perpetuum. The sheer number of new players caught us by surprise, and we're working around the clock to accommodate each and every one of you." Customer service. CCP should learn a ****ing thing.
G 0 D	Posted - 2011.06.27 00:16:00 - [6] Originally by: Saai Einjhar haha this is so cruel to those game developers. Their server max population is 25 people anyway so... not true. You can only resist Perpetuum for so long before you try it and realise it is better.
IMANALTOFSOMEONE Hekki	Posted - 2011.06.27 00:17:00 - [7] Lol Funny. But didnt eve start out the same?
Varcaus	Posted - 2011.06.27 00:19:00 - [8] Originally by: Naloth Not really. That game reminds me of something still in Alpha stage. Graphics = / = good game, but that combined with the UI, it borders on being unplayable. now what game start up does that remind me of? Hrm holdon Hrm O yeah EVE
AkJon Ferguson JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.27 00:19:00 - [9] It's not bad, but it seems like it rips off EVE a little too much. I don't like the non-instanced missions either (fighting over the same rats to complete your mission.) I DO like the idea of getting in on a game on the ground floor. I give it a lukewarm recommendation. It's worth a try.
Lightdarkness	Posted - 2011.06.27 00:20:00 - [10] Originally by: Akrosi Originally by: Lightdarkness Edited by: Lightdarkness on 27/06/2011 00:10:39 http://forums.perpetuum-online.com/topic/2683/server-load-issues-in-the-last-48-hours/ Think CCP should start sweating soon. Light "First of all we'd like to welcome the influx of new players to Perpetuum. The sheer number of new players caught us by surprise, and we're working around the clock to accommodate each and every one of you." Customer service. CCP should learn a ****ing thing. Agreed
Herping yourDerp	Posted - 2011.06.27 00:21:00 - [11] Originally by: IMANALTOFSOMEONE Hekki Lol Funny. But didnt eve start out the same? pretty much, i tried perpetuum it feels like old old old old eve... if eve tumbles i'l join it, if not i might just make an account and farm the EP's forever until the game blossums into the competition eve needs to get CCP off its ass >:)
Naloth	Posted - 2011.06.27 00:23:00 - [12] Originally by: Varcaus Originally by: Naloth Not really. That game reminds me of something still in Alpha stage. Graphics = / = good game, but that combined with the UI, it borders on being unplayable. now what game start up does that remind me of? Hrm holdon Hrm O yeah EVE It's been eight years though, I guess I just expect more out of a game. If they add PTW items, I'll join the exodus. Though only until TOR.
Brother Spaciel	Posted - 2011.06.27 00:25:00 - [13] I Loled with this quote from Perpetum Forums: "I would prefer some people to take this time and realize that Perpetuum is not EVE OnlineÖ's vacation resort. I have seen people on Jita back in EVE saying to register, and login in here en masse as another futile "protest"."
Lightdarkness	Posted - 2011.06.27 00:26:00 - [14] I really liked the fact that they had a GM or Dev Welcome every new player and are visable in every channel.
Tarinara	Posted - 2011.06.27 00:29:00 - [15] Originally by: Lightdarkness Edited by: Lightdarkness on 27/06/2011 00:10:39 http://forums.perpetuum-online.com/topic/2683/server-load-issues-in-the-last-48-hours/ Think CCP should start sweating soon. Light CCP Response: U still mad bro?
Harcosi	Posted - 2011.06.27 00:33:00 - [16] I hope people aren't joining to protest, Perpetuum has a really cool game going, with a lot of potential. And some really cool Devs as well, they dont' deserve that.
Tane Enat	Posted - 2011.06.27 00:36:00 - [17] As said by some peeps in perpetuum's forum: Quote: I would prefer some people to take this time and realize that Perpetuum is not EVE OnlineÖ's vacation resort. It's amazing how childish, irresponsible and whimsical some people are. In my humble opinion, EVE is better without those kind of angry kids and I hope they wouldn't come back to EVE or to any game community I'd ever join. The sad think is that most of them will come back with their tail between their legs.
MC187	Posted - 2011.06.27 00:37:00 - [18] actually, the influx of new players has highlighted a bug in their server side relay code, and are working to fix it. i dl'ed it to check it out, kinda like EVE-lite with robots. hasn't been out long so it's a bit buggy and the player base is tiny, but not too bad. one thing i noticed, has automatic crash reporting.
Lightdarkness	Posted - 2011.06.27 00:44:00 - [19] How long before we get a dev response?
Joe Skellington Minmatar Caldari Elite Force Apocalypse Now.	Posted - 2011.06.27 00:45:00 - [20] Yeah, I was really touched. I had a GM message me in-game asking if I had any issues and if I needed assistance. I love their community too. No reason why I can't play both. --
Sciencegeek deathdealer	Posted - 2011.06.27 00:47:00 - [21] 500 players is less then 0.1% of the total eve players. 500 players is less then 15% of the average online players. I retract my prior statements about MT.
Lightdarkness	Posted - 2011.06.27 00:47:00 - [22] Originally by: Joe Skellington Yeah, I was really touched. I had a GM message me in-game asking if I had any issues and if I needed assistance. I love their community too. No reason why I can't play both. Yup Im giving the 14 day trial a go. Probably play both, but if CCP keep the iron curtian up may have to give eve a break until things get sorted
Chandler Urandom Minmatar Native Freshfood	Posted - 2011.06.27 00:50:00 - [23] Originally by: Lightdarkness How long before we get a dev response? Probably a long time, if you expect a "ohnoes" response. Among all the topics in all the forums, why on earth should they respond to this? That ome people discover a new game and play Perpetuum in addition to EVE, as well as a ridiculously minuscule minority leaving EVE for Perpetuum, is hardly something CCP need worry about.
Usuotas	Posted - 2011.06.27 00:51:00 - [24] Cmon! open the server i probably have a lot of EP to spend! ---------------- Women - can't live with them........the end. - Al Bundy
Chandler Urandom Minmatar Native Freshfood	Posted - 2011.06.27 00:52:00 - [25] Originally by: Joe Skellington Yeah, I was really touched. I had a GM message me in-game asking if I had any issues and if I needed assistance. I love their community too. No reason why I can't play both. They sound kinda needy.
Flamespar	Posted - 2011.06.27 00:53:00 - [26] This is so f**king funny. Why? Because perpetuum is planning on introducing an ingame cash shop, which allows you to customise your avatar/robot.
Apollo Gabriel Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels Etherium Cartel	Posted - 2011.06.27 00:55:00 - [27] Edited by: Apollo Gabriel on 27/06/2011 00:55:39 within 5 minutes I was welcomed by a GM and told if I had any questions to let him know, he also kept a private chat open with me. The game looks interesting, but it was hard to figure out the scope of it, and if there were 0.0 esq regions, there seems to be a huge eve component rip off, however they managed to make mining LESS interactive than eve :( honestly even if 5% of the eve refugees stay, that's a win for them. Eve Dark Ages - a new free expansion brought to you by CCP. As the old knowledge leaves, it will all happen again. Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T84nrp08MWo&list=PLF614A7A6461E61E1
Kent Reeves	Posted - 2011.06.27 00:56:00 - [28] Originally by: Chandler Urandom Originally by: Joe Skellington Yeah, I was really touched. I had a GM message me in-game asking if I had any issues and if I needed assistance. I love their community too. No reason why I can't play both. They sound kinda needy. Think of it as being appreciative. It's better than what we get around here sometimes ;P
Proffessor Drake Astroforge Industries 4U Holdings Inc	Posted - 2011.06.27 00:56:00 - [29] Edited by: Proffessor Drake on 27/06/2011 00:57:03 ignore the trolls, lamers are always lame, whatever game they play ;) Perpetuum update - hotfix will be deployed in approx 12 hours, hopefully this will fix the server cap. if what they said is true and the server is ticking at about 5% with 500 players, then the estimated cap is around 10k players. give them 12 hours, and try again. FYI the new perpetuum corp NEX (lol) is now the biggest corp in perpetuum. Wonder how long it hold together before it falls apart into minor fragments? See you on beta island edit : spelling
Kalle Demos Amarr Helix Protocol	Posted - 2011.06.27 00:56:00 - [30] Edited by: Kalle Demos on 27/06/2011 00:56:54 If you guys put in the same effort on your studies as you do with MMOs, you would all have Doctorate degrees by the time you were 16 . LETS POST ON CAOD GANG!
Zverofaust Gallente Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2011.06.27 01:01:00 - [31] I tried to play it for like 10 minutes but it's just such an alien experience... maybe I'm getting too old but I don't have the time or patience or brainpower capabilities to re-learn a whole new MMO even if it is very eerily similar to Eve. I prefer World of Tank's approach of instant battles and incredibly simplistic research and equipping system, was able to learn it in 10 minutes without reading any guide or tutorial.
Katra Novac	Posted - 2011.06.27 01:02:00 - [32] Edited by: Katra Novac on 27/06/2011 01:04:43 Edited by: Katra Novac on 27/06/2011 01:03:37 Originally by: Chandler Urandom Originally by: Joe Skellington Yeah, I was really touched. I had a GM message me in-game asking if I had any issues and if I needed assistance. I love their community too. No reason why I can't play both. They sound kinda needy. It's just good customer service, they've not got to the point where they think they are more important than the customers. Nice to be in a game where they actually appreciate their customers, so don't knock it. I would recommend Eve but alas we don't have that type of service here at the moment, they've forgotten how to treat customers.
Apollo Gabriel Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels Etherium Cartel	Posted - 2011.06.27 01:02:00 - [33] Originally by: Kalle Demos Edited by: Kalle Demos on 27/06/2011 00:56:54 If you guys put in the same effort on your studies as you do with MMOs, you would all have Doctorate degrees by the time you were 16 I have a doctorate degree already, so I need something to do :) Eve Dark Ages - a new free expansion brought to you by CCP. As the old knowledge leaves, it will all happen again. Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T84nrp08MWo&list=PLF614A7A6461E61E1
Bklyn 1	Posted - 2011.06.27 01:03:00 - [34] Originally by: Flamespar This is so f**king funny. Why? Because perpetuum is planning on introducing an ingame cash shop, which allows you to customise your avatar/robot. Source? I have not read that anywhere.
Lightdarkness	Posted - 2011.06.27 01:05:00 - [35] Originally by: Flamespar This is so fking funny. Why? Because perpetuum is planning on introducing an ingame cash shop, which allows you to customise your avatar/robot. Wish CCP Allowed us to Customise the Paintjobs on our ships... Pink Hello Kitty Thorax RAWR! Even a Corp Logo slapped onto your ships would be cool. But no, we are stuck with MT and CQ that serve F* ALL Purpose.. Not raging fyi, just thinking aloud.
Vherkin Amarr War Cake	Posted - 2011.06.27 01:06:00 - [36] Bookmarked it.
Chandler Urandom Minmatar Native Freshfood	Posted - 2011.06.27 01:15:00 - [37] Edited by: Chandler Urandom on 27/06/2011 01:19:42 Originally by: Katra Novac It's just good customer service, they've not got to the point where they think they are more important than the customers. No. Good customer service is being met with a smile, being listened to and rapid responses to inquiries. Unless we're talking about an automated generic greeting messages, welcoming each new customer individually is a waste of time, and if they have that many GMs per player, they should probably reconsider where they are hiring people. While it might work in the very early days of a game, don't be delusional - devs can't keep it on a personal level if a game grows substantially. Having a close relationship between customers and devs/GMs happens for most small games, but it won't stay that way.
adriaans Amarr Ankaa. Nair Al-Zaurak	Posted - 2011.06.27 01:17:00 - [38] Edited by: adriaans on 27/06/2011 01:23:09 Originally by: Flamespar This is so fking funny. Why? Because perpetuum is planning on introducing an ingame cash shop, which allows you to customise your avatar/robot. It's paintjobs.... You know, like painting your robot pink if you want to Originally by:** Chandler Urandom Originally by: Katra Novac It's just good customer service, they've not got to the point where they think they are more important than the customers. No. Good customer service is being met with a smile, being listened to and rapid responses to inquiries. Unless we're talking about an automated generic greeting messages, welcoming each new customer individually is a waste of time, and if they have too many GMs per customer, they should probably reconsider where they should prioritize hiring people. While it might work in the very early days of a game, don't be delusional - devs can't keep it on a personal level if a game grows substantially. Having a close relationship between customers and devs happens for most small games, but it won't stay that way. So?, at a few thousand people a 12 (or was it 18?) man dev team will mean it's pretty successful for them. Not to mention, that was when eve was at it's best.. And tbqh, I think having GM's greet new players and help them with any issues is a great use of resources, it made me decide to get a subscription (including the fact that the game is good), and whenever any of us have had any issues etc, we are immediately being helped. Instead of you know wait 1-2 weeks for a non working answer.... --signature-- My latest pvp video: Link
Katrina Cortez	Posted - 2011.06.27 01:21:00 - [39] Originally by: Naloth Not really. That game reminds me of something still in Alpha stage. Graphics = / = good game, but that combined with the UI, it borders on being unplayable. lol... its UI is an Eve clone. Ambulation... because spaceships don't have wallets.
Benri Konpaku	Posted - 2011.06.27 01:24:00 - [40] Originally by: Kalle Demos Edited by: Kalle Demos on 27/06/2011 00:56:54 If you guys put in the same effort on your studies as you do with MMOs, you would all have Doctorate degrees by the time you were 16 Nice, what's the doctorate to fly spaceships and fight in massive fleet ops while being immortal? But then again there isn't one is there? So I'll just have to remain a gamer even if it's not playing spreadsheets in space.
Don Knots Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.27 01:25:00 - [41] Originally by: Bklyn 1 Originally by: Flamespar This is so fking funny. Why? Because perpetuum is planning on introducing an ingame cash shop, which allows you to customise your avatar/robot. Source? I have not read that anywhere. http://blog.perpetuum-online.com/posts/2011-06-24-this-summer-part-2/ See subsection about pink robots. But to their credit, the micro-transactions are micro... get this: Quote:** but since robots are pretty short-lived and packing one will also make it revert to its default color (just like paint decay), it probably wonÆt be too heavy on your wallets. That is MT, probably done in a better way.
Flamespar	Posted - 2011.06.27 01:33:00 - [42] I have played Perpetuum. The communication between the Devs and the community is really top notch. Whilst the game has had some minor issues, they really seem to be focussing on making sure features work and enhance what players want to do. Rather than saying to players 'this is what you will be doing' (ie the current EVE online model), they seem to be working with players. Plus the game is cheaper per month. And you will be able to have pink robots.
octahexx Charante	Posted - 2011.06.27 01:37:00 - [43] yeah but you see the differance they just plainly tell you they will have mt and what it will do.
G 0 D	Posted - 2011.06.27 01:47:00 - [44] Originally by: Flamespar The communication between the Devs and the community is really top notch. Rather than saying to players 'this is what you will be doing' (ie the current EVE online model), they seem to be working with players. agreed
Lightdarkness	Posted - 2011.06.27 02:01:00 - [45] Originally by: octahexx Charante yeah but you see the differance they just plainly tell you they will have mt and what it will do. Agreed
G 0 D	Posted - 2011.06.27 02:12:00 - [46] Originally by: Lightdarkness Agreed Agreed
Koba Kyogen The Concordiat Concordiat Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.27 02:15:00 - [47] Originally by: Akrosi Originally by: Lightdarkness Edited by: Lightdarkness on 27/06/2011 00:10:39 http://forums.perpetuum-online.com/topic/2683/server-load-issues-in-the-last-48-hours/ Think CCP should start sweating soon. Light "First of all we'd like to welcome the influx of new players to Perpetuum. The sheer number of new players caught us by surprise, and we're working around the clock to accommodate each and every one of you." Customer service. CCP should learn a **ing thing. Damn right. CCP take note of their attentiveness. Idiots. KK Originally by:** CCP Sharkbait we are screwed. delaying startup again.
Concord Commodore	Posted - 2011.06.27 02:20:00 - [48] Originally by: Zverofaust I tried to play it for like 10 minutes but it's just such an alien experience... maybe I'm getting too old but I don't have the time or patience or brainpower capabilities to re-learn a whole new MMO even if it is very eerily similar to Eve. I prefer World of Tank's approach of instant battles and incredibly simplistic research and equipping system, was able to learn it in 10 minutes without reading any guide or tutorial. From what I understand, Perpetuum is pretty much built on old Eve code... It's ugly, but the obvious benefits are there, if you give it a chance. Think of it as Eve from 2003. You're a pioneer. :D (Unless CCP decides to pull their head out of their ass, then i'll be back here so fast, I may tear a hole in the space/time continuum)
Reloadin	Posted - 2011.06.27 02:22:00 - [49] Edited by: Reloadin on 27/06/2011 02:25:14 Quote: Another troll comes from EVE to Perp. Awesome. Quote: Just started yesterday, the game has great potential =] My first impressions doing the tutorial was great except for the speed - from what I've read this isn't a new topic. Possible solutions - Some kind of not-in-combat use boooster (turbo, antigrav, booster rockets) that you could train to use. This would function as a mount as in WOW etc, or Afterburner / Microwarpdrive as in EVE. Also, one thing that would, in my opinion, should be in the game is the availability to 'jump' or 'fall' down steeper areas rather than artificially elongating the game just to get to a mission waypoint. The game is meant to be fun right? Taking 10 minutes to walk oh so slowly to your destination just to pop a bad guy then 10 minutes walk back is just way too painful... No fun. Poor perpetuum. They have no idea what they're in for.
Sakura Ren Fenikkusu	Posted - 2011.06.27 02:26:00 - [50] This just in: Perpetuum infiltrates CCP, internal newsletter exposed, mass influx of players to perpetuum online. The interface for Perpetuum looks/looked so much like Eve in the old days, it really makes you wonder don't it?
Hiryu Jin noXCorp Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns	Posted - 2011.06.27 02:43:00 - [51] Originally by: Sakura Ren Fenikkusu This just in: Perpetuum infiltrates CCP, internal newsletter exposed, mass influx of players to perpetuum online. The interface for Perpetuum looks/looked so much like Eve in the old days, it really makes you wonder don't it? makes me wonder if ur a devalt.
Mr Epeen	Posted - 2011.06.27 02:50:00 - [52] Originally by: Lightdarkness Edited by: Lightdarkness on 27/06/2011 00:10:39 http://forums.perpetuum-online.com/topic/2683/server-load-issues-in-the-last-48-hours/ Think CCP should start sweating soon. Light Poor Perptuum. Forums already full of whiny demanding ex-EVE players telling them how they should be doing stuff. Enjoyed that little read. Mr Epeen
Sakura Ren Fenikkusu	Posted - 2011.06.27 02:51:00 - [53] Originally by: Hiryu Jin Originally by: Sakura Ren Fenikkusu This just in: Perpetuum infiltrates CCP, internal newsletter exposed, mass influx of players to perpetuum online. The interface for Perpetuum looks/looked so much like Eve in the old days, it really makes you wonder don't it? makes me wonder if ur a devalt. LOL..NOT...Just spreading some humor. :P
Impact1983 Merchants Exports Rising Phoenix Syndicate	Posted - 2011.06.27 02:52:00 - [54] Originally by: Harcosi I hope people aren't joining to protest, Perpetuum has a really cool game going, with a lot of potential. And some really cool Devs as well, they dont' deserve that. You sir are not an Eve player, An eve player would say this "I hope you all use Perpetuum and when you quit to go back to that old ass game of eve you will send me your stuff" So sir, Contract me your stuff as you so love your gumby eve knock off game so much more. Impact
G 0 D	Posted - 2011.06.27 03:24:00 - [55] 15 day trial lots of eve players http://www.perpetuum-online.com/
Lightdarkness	Posted - 2011.06.27 04:11:00 - [56] .
Henry Haphorn Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.27 04:25:00 - [57] Originally by: Concord Commodore From what I understand, Perpetuum is pretty much built on old Eve code... It's ugly, but the obvious benefits are there, if you give it a chance. Think of it as Eve from 2003. You're a pioneer. :D (Unless CCP decides to pull their head out of their ass, then i'll be back here so fast, I may tear a hole in the space/time continuum) Wait a minute. If Perpetuum is built on the old Eve code, wouldn't that meant that the game is operating with "stolen property"? Don't forget that CCP is fully aware that a prior version of their Eve client was reverse engineered and leaked to the public or to its competitors. CCP could have a case against Perpetuum if they had enough evidence (which doesn't seem so hard considering the similarities). But then again, Apple wasn't able to stop Microsoft from continuing to sell its Windows OS (even though it was based off of an old Macintosh OS source code - which was stolen by Bill Gates).
G 0 D	Posted - 2011.06.27 05:32:00 - [58] Join channel EVE in perpetuum
Chib Drunken Wookies BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2011.06.27 05:36:00 - [59] did ccp accidentally perpetuum ---------------------------------------------
G 0 D	Posted - 2011.06.27 06:29:00 - [60] Originally by: Chib did ccp accidentally perpetuum
Pearljammer 5657 Caldari Last Exit.	Posted - 2011.06.27 06:34:00 - [61] I signed up an account with perpetuum online. I checked out the gameplay on youtube and I have yet to download the client. Can someone here offer a fair opinion of the game. I also checked out Infinity but the latest news out their website is no beta in 2011 and its looking like 2012 will be no beta as well.
Kuronaga Kantian Principle	Posted - 2011.06.27 06:41:00 - [62] Only gameplay i seen was from some guy who was pure pve and only did the equivilant of mining. I guess everywhere you go, there you are. Damn sissies.
G 0 D	Posted - 2011.06.28 03:48:00 - [63] Edited by: G 0 D on 28/06/2011 03:50:22 Edited by: G 0 D on 28/06/2011 03:49:21 Originally by: Pearljammer 5657 I signed up an account with perpetuum online. I checked out the gameplay on youtube and I have yet to download the client. Can someone here offer a fair opinion of the game. I also checked out Infinity but the latest news out their website is no beta in 2011 and its looking like 2012 will be no beta as well. Perpetuum, only 7 months old is a very impressive single sharded sandbox mmo. Very much like EVE in many ways. I find the combat is much better because what you SEE outside of the UI matters unlike EVE. In perpetuum you can hide behind obsticles to avoid fire, different types of weapons work better on different terrain. Different robots can travel up steeper slopes. You keep your own range, not set an orbit or keep at range. The combat is much more player skill based and less ingame skill and ship quality or type like eve. Being a better skilled player actually matters in Perpetuum, unlike eve where the player with the better understanding of mechanics wins. At the same time as combat is vastly improved from EVE, almost all EVE's systems are also featured in Perpetuum.
Mr Epeen	Posted - 2011.06.28 04:05:00 - [64] Originally by: G 0 D Edited by: G 0 D on 28/06/2011 03:50:22 Edited by: G 0 D on 28/06/2011 03:49:21 Originally by: Pearljammer 5657 I signed up an account with perpetuum online. I checked out the gameplay on youtube and I have yet to download the client. Can someone here offer a fair opinion of the game. I also checked out Infinity but the latest news out their website is no beta in 2011 and its looking like 2012 will be no beta as well. Perpetuum, only 7 months old is a very impressive single sharded sandbox mmo. Very much like EVE in many ways. I find the combat is much better because what you SEE outside of the UI matters unlike EVE. In perpetuum you can hide behind obsticles to avoid fire, different types of weapons work better on different terrain. Different robots can travel up steeper slopes. You keep your own range, not set an orbit or keep at range. The combat is much more player skill based and less ingame skill and ship quality or type like eve. Being a better skilled player actually matters in Perpetuum, unlike eve where the player with the better understanding of mechanics wins. At the same time as combat is vastly improved from EVE, almost all EVE's systems are also featured in Perpetuum. Nice picture. If I was a Peretuum dev alt posting in the EVE forums, I'd be hiding my face too. Mr Epeen
Snake Scofield	Posted - 2011.06.28 04:13:00 - [65] Edited by: Snake Scofield on 28/06/2011 04:15:43 Perpetuum, lol. http://forums.perpetuum-online.com/topic/2722/marketing-why-no-reviews/ Eve player telling them they need more marketing and reviews. Maybe if you stage a few riots... http://forums.perpetuum-online.com/topic/2728/plex/ EvE player here. I left eve cause I couldn't afford MT. Could you introduce plex concept so I can play for free. Ties in nicely with: http://forums.perpetuum-online.com/topic/2739/we-eve-expats-got-here-just-in-time-for-mt-on-po/ MT coming to perpetuum. Irony... http://forums.perpetuum-online.com/topic/2748/how-we-can-help-perpetuum-right-now/ http://forums.perpetuum-online.com/topic/2637/first-impressions/ http://forums.perpetuum-online.com/topic/2759/loot-logger/ Hi, I'm from eve and I've been playing for a day. Here's how you can fix your game. Trolololol.
Sraik Doubter	Posted - 2011.06.28 04:13:00 - [66] Seems like it has considerable depth. The UI is a bit hard for me to manage, but then again, I am still a nubb. I like the interaction with topography. It is definitely worth downloading the client and checking it out on trial. I think that some patience will be required, as it has complexity comparable to EvE, but not much in the way of tutorials/guidance. ATM I am trying to keep in mind how disoriented I felt when I started EvE. Helps quite a bit. Oh, the Dev interaction is quite refreshing. There is a recent podcast geared toward the EvE influx that gave a nice feel for the depth of the game. Podcast
Shova Kais Caldari Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse	Posted - 2011.06.28 04:38:00 - [67] Originally by: Mr Epeen Originally by: Lightdarkness Edited by: Lightdarkness on 27/06/2011 00:10:39 http://forums.perpetuum-online.com/topic/2683/server-load-issues-in-the-last-48-hours/ Think CCP should start sweating soon. Light Poor Perptuum. Forums already full of whiny demanding ex-EVE players telling them how they should be doing stuff. Enjoyed that little read. Mr Epeen This, TBQFH. Good riddance.
Kai'il Bhaal	Posted - 2011.06.28 04:41:00 - [68] Originally by: G 0 D Edited by: G 0 D on 28/06/2011 03:50:22 Edited by: G 0 D on 28/06/2011 03:49:21 Originally by: Pearljammer 5657 I signed up an account with perpetuum online. I checked out the gameplay on youtube and I have yet to download the client. Can someone here offer a fair opinion of the game. I also checked out Infinity but the latest news out their website is no beta in 2011 and its looking like 2012 will be no beta as well. Perpetuum, only 7 months old is a very impressive single sharded sandbox mmo. Very much like EVE in many ways. I find the combat is much better because what you SEE outside of the UI matters unlike EVE. In perpetuum you can hide behind obsticles to avoid fire, different types of weapons work better on different terrain. Different robots can travel up steeper slopes. You keep your own range, not set an orbit or keep at range. The combat is much more player skill based and less ingame skill and ship quality or type like eve. Being a better skilled player actually matters in Perpetuum, unlike eve where the player with the better understanding of mechanics wins. At the same time as combat is vastly improved from EVE, almost all EVE's systems are also featured in Perpetuum. Have you ever even PVP'd in frigs? Manual piloting is almost a must. Have you ever pvp'd at all?
Namura Kautsuo	Posted - 2011.06.28 04:43:00 - [69] Maybe in 2 or 3 years it will have the depth worth of EVE, until then its only for the those willing to put up with a very raw game. CCP has nothing to worry about with that game.
Dorian Tormak	Posted - 2011.06.28 04:44:00 - [70] Originally by: Harcosi I hope people aren't joining to protest, Perpetuum has a really cool game going, with a lot of potential. And some really cool Devs as well, they dont' deserve that. This. It's a pretty sweet game, yet so new Wikipedia doesn't even have a page on it yet.
Anon Forumalt6858	Posted - 2011.06.28 04:56:00 - [71] Originally by: Flamespar This is so fking funny. Why? Because perpetuum is planning on introducing an ingame cash shop, which allows you to customise your avatar/robot. Hey, now that sounds like clearly communicated intent, which begs the question why you find it funny? It isn't absurd, like you probably find it with your tiny mind, but a perfect highlight of what is wrong in CCP right now. Also, the way that you describe what will be made available doesn't sound like gameplay affecting items. I have no direct knowledge of the other game myself, so this is simple reading comprehension at work. To sum up, describe how it's funny please. - His name was John Turbefield! CCP: We are adults who wage economic, social, and tactical warfare on each other for fun. Don't ** with us.
Toovhon	Posted - 2011.06.28 05:26:00 - [72] Wow - customer service that seems to care. Are you taking note, CCP? -- Frog blast the vent core!
Aramatheia	Posted - 2011.06.28 05:29:00 - [73] being a former wow player all i can say is.. heard it all before, and while i dont play wow anymore.. its still there!. rift didnt destroy wow so yeah.. 1k ppl leaving moving to another game isnt going to sink this ship.
Conrad Lionhart Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.28 05:32:00 - [74] Sounds good, if eve collapses due to bankruptcy, due to the protests, you guys won't be homeless.
Iselsi Custodis Gallente NoxArcana	Posted - 2011.06.28 06:00:00 - [75] Originally by: Toovhon Wow - customer service that seems to care. Are you taking note, CCP? THIS ^ My coworker who apparently will be unsubbing has tried it out, and this is what stood out to him the most. Whomever commented above that said this was 'needy' is just mad. Lord knows while CCP has been at this for a while and taken a typical customer service attitude that I'd expect from a minimum wage employee working in a retail or fast food store, be it internet pixels or real life goods/services, customer service is important. The lack of a sincere apology, not giving a flying ** about its customers/subscribers, and gagging or banning people speaking their minds, is only strengthening the wall between CCP and its player base. All the trolling in this thead is, in all honesty, fear. Those trolling are getting worried. I wonder if CCP is getting worried? Probably not yet. I know if they do financials on a quarterly based report, they'll certainly be worried at next quarter's report. A dose of humility and perhaps a return to customer service will do the trick. Question is, will CCP take heed? I know Perpetuum has taken heed, LOL. Best business model ever. Wait for the other guy to completely ** off all his regular customers, then offer them your stuff instead.
Maman Brigitte Licentia Ex Vereor Intergalactic Exports Group	Posted - 2011.06.28 06:10:00 - [76] Originally by: Kalle Demos Edited by: Kalle Demos on 27/06/2011 00:56:54 If you guys put in the same effort on your studies as you do with MMOs, you would all have Doctorate degrees by the time you were 16 Ah yes... doctorate degrees. The road to a well-respected, high-profile career which pays, after 30 years in school (and 2-10 years as a lab monkey earning 12/hr), approximately half what Garbage men earn on day one, minus dental. Football coaches, on the other hand...
Aliyah Sa'adat Alnasseri Terajima Trading Company	Posted - 2011.06.28 07:05:00 - [77] Originally by: Maman Brigitte Originally by: Kalle Demos Edited by: Kalle Demos on 27/06/2011 00:56:54 If you guys put in the same effort on your studies as you do with MMOs, you would all have Doctorate degrees by the time you were 16 Ah yes... doctorate degrees. The road to a well-respected, high-profile career which pays, after 30 years in school (and 2-10 years as a lab monkey earning 12/hr), approximately half what Garbage men earn on day one, minus dental. Football coaches, on the other hand... K+12+8 = 21 = 30? Did you not get a high school diploma? Also, http://www.google.com/search?q=education+earning+potential
Reed Tiburon Caldari Future Corps Sleeper Social Club	Posted - 2011.06.28 07:16:00 - [78] Originally by: G 0 D Originally by: Saai Einjhar haha this is so cruel to those game developers. Their server max population is 25 people anyway so... not true. You can only resist Perpetuum for so long before you try it and realise it is better. Just started today, it is actually pretty fun. Like EVE without the :ccp:. --- R.I.P. EVE ONLINE [img]ht
Atari Gene	Posted - 2011.06.28 07:19:00 - [79] Interesting... the next best thing to spaceships.. Definitely worth a look see
Admiral Goberius Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.06.28 07:33:00 - [80] Originally by: Snake Scofield Edited by: Snake Scofield on 28/06/2011 04:15:43 Perpetuum, lol. http://forums.perpetuum-online.com/topic/2722/marketing-why-no-reviews/ Eve player telling them they need more marketing and reviews. Maybe if you stage a few riots... http://forums.perpetuum-online.com/topic/2728/plex/ EvE player here. I left eve cause I couldn't afford MT. Could you introduce plex concept so I can play for free. Ties in nicely with: http://forums.perpetuum-online.com/topic/2739/we-eve-expats-got-here-just-in-time-for-mt-on-po/ MT coming to perpetuum. Irony... http://forums.perpetuum-online.com/topic/2748/how-we-can-help-perpetuum-right-now/ http://forums.perpetuum-online.com/topic/2637/first-impressions/ http://forums.perpetuum-online.com/topic/2759/loot-logger/ Hi, I'm from eve and I've been playing for a day. Here's how you can fix your game. Trolololol. lmao poor perpetuum, overnight being invaded by thousands of the worst eve players: self righteous manbabbies
flapie 2 Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.28 07:35:00 - [81] Originally by: Saai Einjhar haha this is so cruel to those game developers. Their server max population is 25 people anyway so... Must be some awsome game that had only a max population of 25 people ..... Good thing that some of the whiners are leaving for other crappy games. Just dont forget to send me ur stuff when you logout of EVE for the last time >.<
G 0 D	Posted - 2011.06.28 07:37:00 - [82] Originally by: flapie 2 Originally by: Saai Einjhar haha this is so cruel to those game developers. Their server max population is 25 people anyway so... Must be some awsome game that had only a max population of 25 people ..... Good thing that some of the whiners are leaving for other crappy games. Just dont forget to send me ur stuff when you logout of EVE for the last time >.< Both of you are bad trolls. Perpetuum is a single sharded mmo like eve with thousands of players.
Salvianna Vasquez	Posted - 2011.06.28 07:41:00 - [83] Originally by: G 0 D Originally by: flapie 2 Originally by: Saai Einjhar haha this is so cruel to those game developers. Their server max population is 25 people anyway so... Must be some awsome game that had only a max population of 25 people ..... Good thing that some of the whiners are leaving for other crappy games. Just dont forget to send me ur stuff when you logout of EVE for the last time >.< Both of you are bad trolls. Perpetuum is a single sharded mmo like eve with thousands of players. Actually the have a player cap of 500 active at the moment due to overloading issues. They've asked the player base to stop idling alts and if they have to sit around chatting in eve channel all day to do it on their irc.
G 0 D	Posted - 2011.06.28 07:42:00 - [84] Originally by: Salvianna Vasquez Originally by: G 0 D Originally by: flapie 2 Originally by: Saai Einjhar haha this is so cruel to those game developers. Their server max population is 25 people anyway so... Must be some awsome game that had only a max population of 25 people ..... Good thing that some of the whiners are leaving for other crappy games. Just dont forget to send me ur stuff when you logout of EVE for the last time >.< Both of you are bad trolls. Perpetuum is a single sharded mmo like eve with thousands of players. Actually the have a player cap of 500 active at the moment due to overloading issues. They've asked the player base to stop idling alts and if they have to sit around chatting in eve channel all day to do it on their irc. Which is a temporary problem with the code that the devs are working around the clock on and will fix soon. Their server loads are actually only 1-5% even with all the new players.
Ltd SpacePig FISKL GUARDS RED.OverLord	Posted - 2011.06.28 07:42:00 - [85] Tested this game.. i mean when i saw EVE i was in love.. i had my subscription before the end of the trial. This game isn't anything close to eve.. If you think you will find a new game like EVE your going to the wrong place.. maybe abit of vacation while you cool off maybe.. i quit playing after couple of hours.. it was damn boring game.. EVE might have its good and bad.. but when it comes around.. there is nothing like EVE out there.. "Carebear gone bad"
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar The Python Cartel. The Defenders of Pen Island	Posted - 2011.06.28 07:42:00 - [86] Perpetuum after the influx of Eve players is complete
Mister Dreyfus	Posted - 2011.06.28 07:58:00 - [87] Originally by: Kalle Demos Edited by: Kalle Demos on 27/06/2011 00:56:54 If you guys put in the same effort on your studies as you do with MMOs, you would all have Doctorate degrees by the time you were 16 I'll have mine by 23 at the pace I'm going, that's good enough for me.
Phobos Kashada	Posted - 2011.06.28 07:58:00 - [88] haha! I'm looking at their subscription options and you can actually purchase 20 years of gametime for slightly less than 2000 USD. If only I were wealthy.
The Snowman Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2011.06.28 08:37:00 - [89] The game can be more fun since you physically control your robot with WASD. EWAR is more integrated from the ground up (as opposed to eve which sorta tagged it on and isnt used as much) It is very much like an early Eve Online with a small dev team that you can actually talk to in-game. But it was suffering from a lack of players since they havnt really done much marketing yet. The player graph though, has indeed doubled in the past few days. skill points accumulated and then you spend them, unlike eve where you train a skill. It does have the potential to be as popular as eve, so worth grabbing an account.

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Slade Trillgon Endless Possibilities Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.28 19:15:00 - [91] Originally by: Flamespar I have played Perpetuum. The communication between the Devs and the community is really top notch. Whilst the game has had some minor issues, they really seem to be focussing on making sure features work and enhance what players want to do. Rather than saying to players 'this is what you will be doing' (ie the current EVE online model), they seem to be working with players. Plus the game is cheaper per month. And you will be able to have pink robots. I played in closed beta and I can say that the only reason this is the situation is that the game is new and they have a miniscule number of subs as compared with EVE. If they did not do the above they would be shooting themselves in the foot. I do not agree with the road that CCP is taking, but I do not think the apocalypse is setting in on EVE at this point. That being said this could be the push that gets Perpetuum of and running. It will be good to get back in and see how things are going in about a week when I get internet back at the place. Slade :Signature Temporarily Disabled:
adriaans Amarr Ankaa. Nair Al-Zaurak	Posted - 2011.06.28 19:59:00 - [92] Originally by: Dorian Tormak Originally by: Harcosi I hope people aren't joining to protest, Perpetuum has a really cool game going, with a lot of potential. And some really cool Devs as well, they dont' deserve that. This. It's a pretty sweet game, yet so new Wikipedia doesn't even have a page on it yet. It's because some moron on wikipedia keeps deleting it --signature-- My latest pvp video: Link
Ehris Bok United Kings Strategic Operations Brigade	Posted - 2011.06.29 03:13:00 - [93] just seen this post by one of the perpetuum DEVs Originally by: DEV Calvin Well, this wasn't the day we fixed the server. We are going to get some rest and carry on tomorrow. We have isolated where the problem is, so we did make progress today. Until then a 350 player cap is in effect. At the moment we do not have the tools to make distinction between paying and trial players. All this time we spend chasing this issue will be free of charge to all of you. We are very sorry about the inconvenience, we will do our best to get this out of the way!
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2011.06.29 03:47:00 - [94] I love this game. Seriously I think it's great. But no, why would ccp have to sweat over 300 hardcore eve players that liked the good old days? We can jsut play both if CCP come through. If not, it's a haven for a very very very small number of players. and whats wrong with that? <3 robots walk safe o7
Meklon Caldari RETRIBUTIONS. Legion of The Damned.	Posted - 2011.06.29 07:34:00 - [95] Originally by: MotherMoon I love this game. Seriously I think it's great. But no, why would ccp have to sweat over 300 hardcore eve players that liked the good old days? We can jsut play both if CCP come through. If not, it's a haven for a very very very small number of players. and whats wrong with that? <3 robots walk safe o7 QFT
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar The Python Cartel. The Defenders of Pen Island	Posted - 2011.06.29 07:42:00 - [96] Yeah, I couldn't get into Perpetuum... something about the disturbing way the little legs shuffled really bugged me

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