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kieron
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:06:00 -
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Due to a failure of the database server and the back-up db server, EVE is temporarily unavailable. The cause of the failures are being investigated and the servers will be restored as soon as possible.
kieron
Community Manager,
EVE Online
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Pel Mel
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:07:00 -
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You do what ya gotta do.
So long i dont log in with 10k Skill Points
 Originally by: Eris Discordia
I pwn all.
Eris Discordia wtfpwns this thread using fastlockbeamz0r and wrecks for omgwtflock!! damage
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Xavier Cardde
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:08:00 -
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Ruh Roh Shaggy!
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slothe
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:10:00 -
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............ohnoes..........
what shall we all do? 
Say hello on our forum @www.aserea.com
or join our public channel ingame "MLM Public"
http://www.khainestar.com/eve |
zaqq
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:12:00 -
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SHOOT the goddam engineers
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Abraxus
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:15:00 -
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ack...just when i decided to finish off a skill that took 1 hr...and now its done and i can't switch lol 
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MAcheTT3
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:16:00 -
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As long as it's up in 5 minutes, for when my skill finishes training...  
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Pluvious
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:16:00 -
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Perhaps we can blame Micro$oft ?
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slothe
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:17:00 -
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Originally by: Pluvious
Perhaps we can blame Micro$oft ?
nah it was one of those rusty minmater databases that went down, quicker than a 5isk gallente hooker
Say hello on our forum @www.aserea.com
or join our public channel ingame "MLM Public"
http://www.khainestar.com/eve |
Nuclear Baggins
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:18:00 -
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Its all slothe's fault
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Crux Australis
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:19:00 -
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Congrats for having your DB server crash (which may happen) AND the backup one fail too (ROFL).
Seriously, you should use your nice monthly income to buy a clue.
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Puncher
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:19:00 -
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The EVE database is temporarily down due to one of the following reasons :
- leaves on the track.
- the wrong kind of snow.
- a union stike due to insufficient amounts of available tartare sauce in the canteen.
- someone desperately needed to plug in an electric nosehair trimmer, and there was only one plug.
- WoW
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Lord Xantos
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:20:00 -
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Originally by: slothe
Originally by: Pluvious
Perhaps we can blame Micro$oft ?
nah it was one of those rusty minmater databases that went down, quicker than a 5isk gallente hooker
And I thought it was the janitor that tripped over the wires to the serversà.
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Octo
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:20:00 -
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Originally by: slothe
Originally by: Pluvious
Perhaps we can blame Micro$oft ?
nah it was one of those rusty minmater databases that went down, quicker than a 5isk gallente hooker
Hey 
"Hairless monster from the deep." |
Sangxianc
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:22:00 -
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Edited by: Sangxianc on 21/02/2005 18:22:26
What's a proxy? And why isn't it connected? 
Oh well, I'm fine because I have 4 day skill training.
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Any man's death diminishes me, as I am involved in mankinde; And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls;
It tolls for thee. |
Phony v2
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:27:00 -
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The server said it was starting up, now it's down again. What is going on?
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Chronos Chi
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:28:00 -
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Edited by: Chronos Chi on 21/02/2005 18:30:55
Edited by: Chronos Chi on 21/02/2005 18:29:43
if the database servers have crashed and the backup has crashed too skills wont be training as this information needs to be written to the databases ergo no record of the skills being trained beyond the point in time/space when the servers crashed?
i think
.....unless thats another server entirely?
Originally by: Lord Xantos
Originally by: slothe
Originally by: Pluvious
Perhaps we can blame Micro$oft ?
nah it was one of those rusty minmater databases that went down, quicker than a 5isk gallente hooker
And I thought it was the janitor that tripped over the wires to the serversà.
you may laugh Xantos but this has happened many times janitors unplugging server stacks to plug in vacuums and the like
"Computer games donÆt affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, weÆd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitve electonic dance music..." |
Cradle Rocker
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:28:00 -
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I wanna play!
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loladoll
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:29:00 -
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grapevine has it that the database crash destroyed all information, the backups were dropped in quafe and the db administrators emigrated to siberia all of a sudden to escape the wrath of a 50k-100k playerbase
As compensation we all get shine new characters with skill points depending on the subscription time, full implants and everyone gets a tech II BPO.
or i could get a life and put this unexpected "free- time" to good use : wash car, clean up desk, do my administration, pay my bills,.... 
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live is tough and then you get a clone |
Basileus
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:30:00 -
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I guess CCP's server stability skill lvl 1 has not been trained successfully...
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Gabriel Cascade
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:30:00 -
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A proxy is a thingy. It works like... ah forget it.
As long as it is back up @ 19.44... Skillz skillz skillz
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MiloMorai
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:30:00 -
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-Stuff- happens. Don't like it cuz I'm jonesing for some EVE but we know y'all are on it.
To the TROLLS that posted above, cut'em some slack it's not like they wanted it to happen.
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MooKids
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:31:00 -
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I don't know how, but I think EA Games is behind this. Those bastards have been getting more and more evil lately.
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fairimear
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:32:00 -
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OMG JO LOT COST ME 15K LP.
(\_/)
(O.o)
(> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world Domination.
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Zanin
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:32:00 -
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I just realized ... it is a Presidential holiday today...
That must mean the DBA is not working...poor guy
Quick hand me the MySQL for Dummies book...I will fix your DB for ya!
ummmm....where is the any key?
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Nomeshta
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: Chronos Chi
if the database servers have crashed and the backup has crashed too skills wont be training as this information needs to be written to the databases ergo no record of the skills being trained beyond the point in time/space when the servers crashed?
i think
.....unless thats another server entirely?
Must be another server because skills tick over during downtimes too.
- Caution: Ninja Fingers
WTB: Implants
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Duke Dredd
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:34:00 -
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I guess we won't have to wait for too long until we will see self-proclaimed experts posting their analysises of the situation based on their 200 years of experience with maintaining servers flawlessly. Which will be followed then by a numerous amount of replies telling that this downtime thing truly sucks and that we should get our money back or else some odd players will quit. Some apprentice experts close to a degree in computer science will then tell us that as compromise CCP should learn to announce server failures ahead so players can prepare a bit. We also may see a healthy debate that CCP has no qualifications in doing stuff right unlike the participants of that specific debate who are in real life doing 100% perfect work for their money.
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Jake Solnich
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:34:00 -
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I wonder if the Devs have clones too? They might need them after the wrath over this fiasco. 
I would rather die a free man than live as a slave. |
Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:35:00 -
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Edited by: Bad Harlequin on 21/02/2005 18:37:09
Originally by: Chronos Chi
Edited by: Chronos Chi on 21/02/2005 18:30:55
Edited by: Chronos Chi on 21/02/2005 18:29:43
if the database servers have crashed and the backup has crashed too skills wont be training as this information needs to be written to the databases ergo no record of the skills being trained beyond the point in time/space when the servers crashed?
i think
.....unless thats another server entirely?
since no one fielded this, lemme just assure you that skill training is and always has been absolute. It's time based: the point counter and cute lil progress bar is just infocandy.
If you start a skill that takes 44 days, we can back up the DB, run off with it to Guam, set the colo on fire, rebuild it entirely, buy a new server farm, and restore the DB; and if it takes 30 days to do all this, the game will note the new absolute time at startup and you will have 14 days left. There isn't actually a little dude "training" anything in the servers, you know
PS: i must apologize, it's entirely my fault. I wound up staying home from work today and can't go anywhere due to car trouble, so of course.
You are in a maze of twisty little asteroids, all alike. |
kieron
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:35:00 -
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Originally by: Zanin
I just realized ... it is a Presidential holiday today...
That must mean the DBA is not working...poor guy
CCP Games are based in Iceland, not the US. As such, they don't celebrate President's Day, and yes, the DBA (and the rest of the Devs/Programmers) are working on a solution to the db problems.
kieron
Community Manager,
EVE Online
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Serocca
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:35:00 -
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Quick quick, I must start a new skill training as well
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Dewar Scrabulous
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: Zanin
I just realized ... it is a Presidential holiday today...
That must mean the DBA is not working...poor guy
Quick hand me the MySQL for Dummies book...I will fix your DB for ya!
ummmm....where is the any key?
No president's day in Iceland, my friend. Well, actually, there might be. I never thought to look it up. *shuffles around for an almanac*
-Dewar
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Chronos Chi
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:37:00 -
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Edited by: Chronos Chi on 21/02/2005 18:40:34
we could all use this time constructively,
- speak to our wives/husbands/girlfriends/boyfriends (feel free to delete as appropriate)
- feed our pets (only say this as i have just noticed my goldfish is swimming on its side)
- update our drivers (i'm sure Micro$oft has some money spinning updates to patch)
just a thought
"Computer games donÆt affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, weÆd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitve electonic dance music..." |
Gavin Kineli
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:40:00 -
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Get it fixed, guys!
Just make sure it doesn't happen again.
This is why CCP is better than Blizzard. If CCP were Blizzard all these forums would be full of people going "wtf why don't they tell us what's going on?"
And WoW servers die all the time, so long live CCP.
Play The BIG Lottery! |
Kazim
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:41:00 -
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Is anybody still ahving trouble connecting?
Is the server still down?
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true sight
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Xantos
Originally by: slothe
Originally by: Pluvious
Perhaps we can blame Micro$oft ?
nah it was one of those rusty minmater databases that went down, quicker than a 5isk gallente hooker
And I thought it was the janitor that tripped over the wires to the serversà.
Damn those Janitors! as soon as the servers back up, Im logging in and going to execute all of my janitors!
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true sight
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:45:00 -
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Originally by: kieron
Originally by: Zanin
I just realized ... it is a Presidential holiday today...
That must mean the DBA is not working...poor guy
CCP Games are based in Iceland, not the US. As such, they don't celebrate President's Day, and yes, the DBA (and the rest of the Devs/Programmers) are working on a solution to the db problems.
Erm, heres an interesting question.. who does run Iceland? does it even have a government, as far as Im aware, they dont have an army, they borrow one from the USA
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Wookie
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:45:00 -
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Originally by: Gavin Kineli
Get it fixed, guys!
Just make sure it doesn't happen again.
This is why CCP is better than Blizzard. If CCP were Blizzard all these forums would be full of people going "wtf why don't they tell us what's going on?"
And WoW servers die all the time, so long live CCP.
you obviously haven't played since day 1, they "used" to tell us sweet fa, make poor patches with numerous bugs, not fix bugs that were months old, give unrealistic release dates of fix's oh thats still happening.
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Zanin
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:45:00 -
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Edited by: Zanin on 21/02/2005 18:54:02
No disrespect intended - was just having some fun with ya. Goodluck on the servers.
Zanin
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Lig Lira
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:46:00 -
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Starting up - 10 mins
fingers crossed
Which PA character are you?
That's no flying saucer, that's my ass! |
Wild Rho
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:46:00 -
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I hate it when the universe needs maintenance.
I bet God doesn't have to put up with this 
I have the body of a supermodel. I just can't remember where I left it... |
Green Nine
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:48:00 -
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I'm with you Milo. I have to put up with kind of crap at work and I know how it feels.
Although I do expect a root cause analysis on my desk by 9AM tomorrow.
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Lilja
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:48:00 -
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Originally by: true sight
Erm, heres an interesting question.. who does run Iceland? does it even have a government, as far as Im aware, they dont have an army, they borrow one from the USA
All info on Iceland right here:
http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ic.html
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Xeria
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:48:00 -
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Question:
Will people who were in mining ops etc be compensated for the loss of the stuff, since we did not have any notice that this was about to happen.
If ships are destroyed (my scorp was tanking for a mining op) will they be replaced.
Your Tachyon Beam Laser I places an excellent hit on arkad [MOO], inflicting 702.3 damage.
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Xtreem
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: Lig Lira
Starting up - 10 mins
fingers crossed
its weird, just for the hell of it, i clicked on th scroll baw every secdon to watch it count down, and its skips 5 seconds, then goes up, then down, cool.. lol icwannaknow my ships ok :P
example, 477, 465, 470 all with in 3 clicks, one each second
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Gertrude Starsider
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:51:00 -
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i am willing to forgive this blunder if i have a fully fitted ferox in my hangar in assah (3rd station) when i log back on.
jst joking 
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Nebulanix
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:51:00 -
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Quote:
CCP Games are based in Iceland, not the US. As such, they don't celebrate President's Day. So yes, the DBA (and the rest of the Devs/Programmers) are working on a solution to the db problems.
All I know is that alot of players got dropped off and on this past weekend. Somtimes it seems account specific. Either that or yall cover different regions of the US. I had a friend drop every ten minutes.. I only dropped twice. So.. is this a data flow issue or hardware.. and yes I care because im paying. Good luck finding the problem... It just seems to me that it was coming because of what we were seeing this past weekend. Well its not the webserver.. since we can post. Must be those green slimy gremlins from wow...
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Lig Lira
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:53:00 -
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Originally by: Xtreem
Originally by: Lig Lira
Starting up - 10 mins
fingers crossed
its weird, just for the hell of it, i clicked on th scroll baw every secdon to watch it count down, and its skips 5 seconds, then goes up, then down, cool.. lol icwannaknow my ships ok :P
example, 477, 465, 470 all with in 3 clicks, one each second
LOL yea I just tried it :D
Which PA character are you?
That's no flying saucer, that's my ass! |
Kikapu
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:55:00 -
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What will happen to lost skill points? i can bare with "ccp cannot replace lost skill points", but the amount of skill points have lost due to server errors is starting to annoy me. CCP plz?
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Istaklain
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:58:00 -
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Originally by: Bad Harlequin
since no one fielded this, lemme just assure you that skill training is and always has been absolute. It's time based: the point counter and cute lil progress bar is just infocandy.
If you start a skill that takes 44 days, we can back up the DB, run off with it to Guam, set the colo on fire, rebuild it entirely, buy a new server farm, and restore the DB; and if it takes 30 days to do all this, the game will note the new absolute time at startup and you will have 14 days left. There isn't actually a little dude "training" anything in the servers, you know
Can you imagine if they actually wrote everyones skill points to the db in real time.
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kieron
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Posted - 2005.02.21 18:58:00 -
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Originally by: Zanin
Edited by: Zanin on 21/02/2005 18:54:02
No disrespect intended - was just having some fun with ya. Goodluck on the servers.
Zanin
No insult taken at all. Sometimes I miss the moments of levity when a stressful situation is at hand and if I came across short, apologies on my part.
kieron
Community Manager,
EVE Online
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FireFoxx80
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Posted - 2005.02.21 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: kieron
Due to a failure of the database server and the back-up db server, EVE is temporarily unavailable. The cause of the failures are being investigated and the servers will be restored as soon as possible.
From what I know about Database Systems (and I assure you, it is enough to be very dangerous), loosing both the main and backup db servers could be a bad thing. Is the data within/translaction logs intact?
Kieron, don't worry about it. Whilst you're running around tearing your hair out due to the servers going down, my wife is chuffed to bits that I am spending some time with her.
ex P-TMC
If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU.
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Bellicose
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Posted - 2005.02.21 19:03:00 -
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Originally by: Kikapu
WARNING: DO NOT BUY A NEW CHAR PIC, IT DOESNT WORK ON THE FORUMS. HOWEVER, THE PAYMENT DOES.
lol no your wrong it will work after a short ammount of time (about 6months)
Who needs a shovel when you have a nice big cannon?
KittenArmy
capn' crimson |
kieron
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Posted - 2005.02.21 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: FireFoxx80
Is the data within/translaction logs intact?
As far as I am aware, the information in the databases are intact and undamaged.
Originally by: FireFoxx80
*snip* my wife is chuffed to bits that I am spending some time with her.
Then what the heck are you doing reading and posting to the forums? 
kieron
Community Manager,
EVE Online
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Saparyati Naos
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Posted - 2005.02.21 19:48:00 -
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My hamster escaped once too. It disappeared for a few weeks and apparently had burrowed into a houseplant. Interestingly, it turning feral increased its weight considerably. It also made it rather vicious, in fact aggressive enough to bite through a part of my hand when I tried to retrieve it.
Goodluck with your server and keep your rabies kit handy.
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Damien Vox
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Posted - 2005.02.21 20:20:00 -
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Originally by: Wild Rho
I hate it when the universe needs maintenance.
I bet God doesn't have to put up with this
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Armomin
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Posted - 2005.02.21 20:25:00 -
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And this on the day when I decide to reactivate my trial account and come and play...
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Lord Dynastron
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Posted - 2005.02.21 20:36:00 -
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Originally by: Lilja
Originally by: true sight
Erm, heres an interesting question.. who does run Iceland? does it even have a government, as far as Im aware, they dont have an army, they borrow one from the USA
All info on Iceland right here:
http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ic.html
Yep, the U.S.A is their Armed Forces. Perfect for thwarting penguin invasions.
wow,, there are less peeps in thier entire country then are in my city! The Eve owners must be uber-popular rich people over there! Way 2 go uber-popular rich peeps!
On the other hand they are a Republic like the U.S.... kinda neat, not too many of those.
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2005.02.21 20:44:00 -
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Originally by: Saparyati Naos
My hamster escaped once too. It disappeared for a few weeks and apparently had burrowed into a houseplant. Interestingly, it turning feral increased its weight considerably. It also made it rather vicious, in fact aggressive enough to bite through a part of my hand when I tried to retrieve it.
Goodluck with your server and keep your rabies kit handy.
From carebear hamster to pirate hamster in 2 weeks. EVE denizens could learn from this.
Infinity Ziona
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FireFoxx80
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Posted - 2005.02.21 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: kieron
Originally by: FireFoxx80
Is the data within/translaction logs intact?
As far as I am aware, the information in the databases are intact and undamaged.
Originally by: FireFoxx80
*snip* my wife is chuffed to bits that I am spending some time with her.
Then what the heck are you doing reading and posting to the forums?
Damn, I knew I was meant to be doing something...
ex P-TMC
If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU.
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Aram Gishno
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Posted - 2005.02.21 21:22:00 -
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Originally by: Xeria
Question:
*snip* since we did not have any notice that this was about to happen.
I'm pretty sure CCP didn't have any warnings either; and imagine what the forums would look like if we got a message saying "Dear players, the servers will unexpectedly go down in about 10 mins, please make sure your characters are safe from harm."...
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Korben Morat
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Posted - 2005.02.22 01:58:00 -
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Quote:
I'm pretty sure CCP didn't have any warnings either; and imagine what the forums would look like if we got a message saying "Dear players, the servers will unexpectedly go down in about 10 mins, please make sure your characters are safe from harm."...
If they could see the future then I know what I'd be posting! "CCP, any chance of giving me next weeks lotto numbers?"
Good work getting back up and running...
BTW does anyone know what database they are actually using?
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Manny Tanato
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Posted - 2005.02.22 03:43:00 -
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I think its been mentioned before its MS SQL DB Server? Could be wrong though. Oracle 4tw!!
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Kaylana Syi
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Posted - 2005.02.22 05:07:00 -
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Originally by: Pluvious
Perhaps we can blame Micro$oft ?
Actually I have been experiencing problems w/ my servers on win2k AS ( Opteron ) and even my W2KPRO workstation w/ AMD64 + 6800GT has problems every now and then ( where XP PRO didn't but we know this song and dance ). It seems service pack 4 has some really bad hangups w/ new hardware. XP and 2k3 don't. So yes lets blame Micro$soft for shafting millions of customers because they don't want 2k to stay around. ( EVE runs a good amount of 2k servers BTW, nice Xeon ones )
/me gives finger to MS, win2k, and SQL Server 2000! Linux & Postgresql & Aqua Data Studio 4tw!
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The Nest
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ollobrains
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Posted - 2005.02.22 11:03:00 -
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microsoft has yet more changes coming with IE7 - lets hope it all comes off without to many hiccups
Still getting those servers up must have been a small feat in the quick timeframe it happened in good work CCP
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