Originally by: Talal Galbraith

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Originally by: Evalon Fury

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Originally by: Talal Galbraith

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Originally by: Evalon Fury

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I hope I am wrong.. but it looks like a PR stunt..

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I'm amused that you're only now seeing this.

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Ha ha.. Well.. I'm usually an optimist... try and give people the benefit of the doubt... Looks likely optimism is misplaced in this case...

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This is the INTARWEBZ, man!! What's yer problem?!?!!?!

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Originally by: killmc

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Edited by: killmc on 30/06/2011 16:10:00

Originally by: Samir Duran Xadi

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I dont care about MT, NEX, monocles etc. the lack of new content and the fact that our money goes to fund other ccp projects should be enough for anyone to quit.

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all gameing corp use income from game 1 to pay to make game 2 that just how it works

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Originally by: killmc

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Edited by: killmc on 30/06/2011 16:10:00

Originally by: Samir Duran Xadi

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I dont care about MT, NEX, monocles etc. the lack of new content and the fact that our money goes to fund other ccp projects should be enough for anyone to quit.

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all gameing corp use income from game 1 to pay to make game 2 that just how it works

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Originally by: Samir Duran Xadi

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Originally by: killmc

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Edited by: killmc on 30/06/2011 16:10:00

Originally by: Samir Duran Xadi

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I dont care about MT, NEX, monocles etc. the lack of new content and the fact that our money goes to fund other ccp projects should be enough for anyone to quit.

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all gameing corp use income from game 1 to pay to make game 2 that just how it works

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and people move to game 2. I doubt ccp wants us to leave when they get money from us monthly. If you want people to keep playing your MMO you need to provide them new content constantly.

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Originally by: jackaloped

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Maybe maybe not. I imagine several game companies do have enough faith in their product that they keep trying to make it better instead of losing focus (and money) on other things.

But if they abandon eve why shouldn't we? It needs work and they refuse to assign the devs to fix it. It could be improved allot. And no I do not count incarna-transactions. That really has nothign to od with flying in spaceships.

That is the real problem with eve. Seleene ran on that campaign of iterations and he got a vote from me. So far I see no indication that CCP is going to assign any more devs to inspace eve.

Originally by: killmc

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Edited by: killmc on 30/06/2011 16:10:00

Originally by: Samir Duran Xadi

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I dont care about MT, NEX, monocles etc. the lack of new content and the fact that our money goes to fund other ccp projects should be enough for anyone to quit.

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all gameing corp use income from game 1 to pay to make game 2 that just how it works

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Originally by: Vain Eldritch

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Originally by: vasuul

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Originally by: Andraine

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Soooo are we getting the station view back? will the door be no more?

Or has nothing been sad about that?

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from trebor 1hr ago ::We plan to make a joint statement at the end of day 2 with specific details and points agreed to. #csm6 #tweetfleet

patience padowan

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Padowan? Paedowan? Padawan?

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Originally by: Jannx

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Originally by: Amar Azaph

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CSM's do not speak for me, they have no mandate to speak for me, I speak for me. They do not represent me on any level.

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Nobody voted for you. IRL lone nutcases shouting outside government buildings are generally put up bith but universally ignored. No different here.

The CSM are there as our representatives because people bothered to vote for them (and, frankly, because they bothered to put themselves up for election in order to provide a voice for the players).

So, like it or not, they are the representatives of the player base. If you don't like it, get voted in yourself. Meanwhile, let them do what we (the players) have asked them to do in the CSM forums and wait for the outcome tomorrow.

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Originally by: vasuul

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Originally by: Vain Eldritch

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Originally by: vasuul

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Originally by: Andraine

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Soooo are we getting the station view back? will the door be no more?

Or has nothing been sad about that?

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from trebor 1hr ago ::We plan to make a joint statement at the end of day 2 with specific details and points agreed to. #csm6 #tweetfleet

patience padowan

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And,
Padowan? Paedowan? Padawan?

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eh whatever lol patience grasshoper
there that fits better with my generation

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Quote:

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Trebor_CSM Robert Woodhead
NEX store / pricing meeting winding down. Tough, but if CCP explains to you the way they explained to us, less butthurt #csm6 #tweetfleet

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Originally by: killmc

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Originally by: jackaloped

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Maybe maybe not. I imagine several game companies do have enough faith in their product that they keep trying to make it better instead of losing focus (and money) on other things.

But if they abandon eve why shouldn't we? It needs work and they refuse to assign the devs to fix it. It could be improved allot. And no I do not count incarna-transactions. That really has nothign to od with flying in spaceships.

That is the real problem with eve. Seleene ran on that campaign of iterations and he got a vote from me. So far I see no indication that CCP is going to assign any more devs to inspace eve.

Originally by: killmc

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Edited by: killmc on 30/06/2011 16:10:00

Originally by: Samir Duran Xadi

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I dont care about MT, NEX, monocles etc. the lack of new content and the fact that our money goes to fund other ccp projects should be enough for anyone to quit.

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all gameing corp use income from game 1 to pay to make game 2 that just how it works

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i see your point but plan fact is eve old eve will die all good thangs come to a end. i been here from beta i be sad day when eve shut down but noting go on forever

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Originally by: Luckytania

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Quote:

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Trebor_CSM Robert Woodhead
NEX store / pricing meeting winding down. Tough, but if CCP explains to you the way they explained to us, less butthurt #csm6 #tweetfleet

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Hmmm, I won't be satisfied with "less butthurt".

That is not at all the service I'm paying for.

(Nothing at all against those who want 'kinky trade'. Just not my kind of game.)

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Originally by: vasuul

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Give em time guy's let them get their ducks in a row
that way when the official statement comes out we can all print a copy for ourselves. Then if CCP even goes back on their word, we can all ship a cardboard box we have crapped in to iceland with that memo inside
p.s. make sure you send it C.O.D for $1000.00 (the cost of zulu's pant )

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Originally by: Amar Azaph

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CCP is a commercial entity and like other commercial entities, they are easily contactable to highlight an issue in level of service, or any other issue that a customer may wish to discuss. I do not want/need anyone to assume the role of my "go-between" when dealing with a commercial entity.
I hope this has cleared up any confusion.

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Originally by: Enuen Ravenseye

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Originally by: Luckytania

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Quote:

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Trebor_CSM Robert Woodhead
NEX store / pricing meeting winding down. Tough, but if CCP explains to you the way they explained to us, less butthurt #csm6 #tweetfleet

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Hmmm, I won't be satisfied with "less butthurt".

That is not at all the service I'm paying for.

(Nothing at all against those who want 'kinky trade'. Just not my kind of game.)

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That one tweet alone is enough to prove the meeting was nothing but a PR hoax. One minute it's, "We are being VERY blunt" and the next minute it's, "Well, they EXPLAINED it so it's ok now".

JFC, what a joke

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Originally by: octahexx Charante

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1 meeting and they are already talking the same way as the devblogs in their twitter.

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Originally by: CCP Guard

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Nobody gets to ruin EVE but us!

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all gameing corp use income from game 1 to pay to make game 2 that just how it works

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Originally by: ed jeni

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all gameing corp use income from game 1 to pay to make game 2 that just how it works

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this is a normal if somewhat risky approach, as your new game may be a success or it may bomb,
common sense strategy dictates that you put 50 percent of your chips on red, then should things not work you can continue, if game 2 does well then you have all the more chips to play with next time.

CCP have 50 percent of their chips on game 2 and the other 50 percent staked on game 3

this leaves nothing left for eve and should either of the new games turn out to be a lemon this still leaves nothing for EVE

lets face it folks eve will stay as it is for the forseeable future.

maybe its the icelandic way.

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Originally by: YarrMama

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Originally by: ed jeni

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Quote:

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all gameing corp use income from game 1 to pay to make game 2 that just how it works

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this is a normal if somewhat risky approach, as your new game may be a success or it may bomb,
common sense strategy dictates that you put 50 percent of your chips on red, then should things not work you can continue, if game 2 does well then you have all the more chips to play with next time.

CCP have 50 percent of their chips on game 2 and the other 50 percent staked on game 3

this leaves nothing left for eve and should either of the new games turn out to be a lemon this still leaves nothing for EVE

lets face it folks eve will stay as it is for the forseeable future.

maybe its the icelandic way.

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I always put 50% on red adn 50% on black. That way I always win!!!

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Originally by: vasuul

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Originally by: Amar Azaph

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CCP is a commercial entity and like other commercial entities, they are easily contactable to highlight an issue in level of service, or any other issue that a customer may wish to discuss. I do not want/need anyone to assume the role of my "go-between" when dealing with a commercial entity.
I hope this has cleared up any confusion.

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But that was the problem CCP staff went flat silent on us.
After the patch they were not listening to any of the players issues.
It took a mob of irate customers ,whether blasting memorials ,or raging to pull the plug, and bad press for them to wake the hell up and talk to us.
This is hopefully something that doesn't happen again communication breakdown lead to this pure and simple
1. Who owns these forums?
2. Do members of the EVE community post on there forums ?
3. Do members of the EVE community who have various issues with aspects of EVE game play/developments post their opinions on these forums ?
4. Do members of CCP read/monitor these forums?
5. Do members of CCP post comments on these forums ? in other words,do they interact with the members of the EVE community?
6. What value add does the CSM bring to the table in terms of making this process more effective and efficient?



in these times we have to depend on our elected CSM's to fight for our rights
If you don't vote that's up to you But I for one am glad there is some one out there that came get face time with the bigwigs at CCP when we need them to.
I have been playing since 2007 and this is the first time i have ever raged over anything in this game that ccp did.
Granted there was a lot of nerfs that ****ed me off over the years,it was tolerable i could live with it adapt and overcome
most of the time i praised the updates CCP has done some great work in the past, but this one was substandard to say the least
To me i think Incarna was a rush job of nothing it didnt really add to the game, But it held the threat of taking away so much.
and the silence from on high did not help.

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Originally by: SilKKZ the3rd

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Edited by: SilKKZ the3rd on 30/06/2011 16:54:13
I am starting to get really annoyed now to be honest. I am sick to death of hearing about how nex this nex that. TBH I couldnt care less about Nex.

I think the more important issues are

1.) CQ is absolute crap, I want to be able to revert to old system
2.) Bug issues being present for over 3 years
3.) Botting and RMT is way more an issue than a damn monecule no matter what it costs
4.) Supercapitals being win button, and way to many titans in the game
5.) Constant game inballance, and nerfs making it worse not better.
6.) Really bad QA
7.) Spending sub money on games we cannot even play unless we own a PS3 (wtf is that about)

I mean the list is endless to be frank. I been playing since 2004 and its been going rapidly downhill for over 2 years. Even if the Nex is all sorted out my subs are still going because this is all just a smoke screen to the bigger problems that await the game in the not to distant future.

Is there any point to a CSM, id prefer to be able to have a conversation with devs myself. How do I know my point is being made in the fashion I wish to make it when 3 of them are goons. Its all madness.

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Originally by: Maximillian Dragonard

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Let's face it... Eve is no longer CCP's priority. We are nothing more than the cash cow, useful for funding WoD and Dust. We fail to generate enough revenue to fund those two other projects, we get less, and get milked more.

My reply was in my reason for quitting... "The cash cow is losing teats"

Sad days these are.....

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Originally by: Enuen Ravenseye

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Originally by: Luckytania

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Quote:

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Trebor_CSM Robert Woodhead
NEX store / pricing meeting winding down. Tough, but if CCP explains to you the way they explained to us, less butthurt #csm6 #tweetfleet

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Hmmm, I won't be satisfied with "less butthurt".

That is not at all the service I'm paying for.

(Nothing at all against those who want 'kinky trade'. Just not my kind of game.)

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That one tweet alone is enough to prove the meeting was nothing but a PR hoax. One minute it's, "We are being VERY blunt" and the next minute it's, "Well, they EXPLAINED it so it's ok now".

JFC, what a joke

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