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Othran Brutor Tribe	Posted - 2011.07.02 14:11:00 - [61] All this stuff about holidays is good and are indeed valid reasons for PCU drop. However explain to my poor confused brain why the current PCU counts are less than those of a year ago. CCP have their most :awesome: expansion out and PCU isn't just down on a week ago, its down on a year ago. Do note that PRE-DATES the :18months: rage. Spin that
Rhaegor Stormborn BURN EDEN Northern Coalition.	Posted - 2011.07.02 14:13:00 - [62] There is definately a decline in interest and activity in Eve since the release of Incarna. Will it be temporary? We can only say 3 months from now.
Goodwill City Amarr The Society of Goodwill	Posted - 2011.07.02 14:16:00 - [63] Originally by: Hakkar'al Gallente Its a well known fact (among people outside of whiny EVE O forums ****heads) that the human brain is brilliant in finding patterns and relations where none exist. Yeah guys, it's all in your head. Also, those graphs can only be relied upon when they show an increase.
Delta Jax NixCraft IMPERIAL LEGI0N	Posted - 2011.07.02 14:17:00 - [64] I've noticed as well a drop in player participation, about the time all the controversy came out about non-vanity MT's. Though some have been from hardware burnout, the others have mostly become disenfranchised with eve because of all of the B.S.
Markus Jome	Posted - 2011.07.02 14:21:00 - [65] Originally by: catinboots Edited by: catinboots on 02/07/2011 07:53:00 You seem to forget that the summer vacation months started in most of the northren hemisphere and looking at the time you posted that ...well [...] If there are vacation months, why is the number of players not rising?
Jaroslav Unwanted	Posted - 2011.07.02 14:29:00 - [66] Originally by: El'Niaga Part of that could be folks celebrating Holidays. (Canada Day in Canada) (Star of 4th of July Weekend in United States) Hey, you are being rational. Get out of the forums, you dont belong there. This forum is reserved for tin foil conspiracy theories, whining, and more whining.
Fury Poljus	Posted - 2011.07.02 14:31:00 - [67] Originally by: El'Niaga Part of that could be folks celebrating Holidays. (Canada Day in Canada) (Star of 4th of July Weekend in United States) World of tanks still manages to have over 30000 players thow
Kin Netics	Posted - 2011.07.02 14:32:00 - [68] I'm pretty sure its a holiday weekend and the US is blowing up craptons of fireworks this weekend.... troll moar??
Othran Brutor Tribe	Posted - 2011.07.02 14:37:00 - [69] Originally by: Jaroslav Unwanted Hey, you are being rational. Get out of the forums, you dont belong there. This forum is reserved for tin foil conspiracy theories, whining, and more whining. Oh I see, you only celebrate it every few years then? Same as 4th July? GTFO - the PCU this year is less than the PCU last year on the same days. Now if I'd just deployed my most :awesome: expansion ever and was telling myself I'd recovered from the :18months: rage (30k+ subs went then) I'm not sure that even in my most delusional moments I would claim this a success. Failing to lift the PCU above that of the same day a year ago when you have a shiny new expansion is a failure. That would require someone in CCP to recognise that it isn't just Incarna and by the time they start focusing on the game then all they will have left is halfwits like you - and I HAVE heard you in NPC chat, you're utterly clueless
Rushnik Minmatar Anhalter's Minions	Posted - 2011.07.02 14:50:00 - [70] Edited by: Rushnik on 02/07/2011 14:52:09 Originally by: Harcosi Originally by: Rushnik Edited by: Rushnik on 02/07/2011 07:56:04 Lets take a look at this: http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility What do we conlude? Right to left graphs are stupid? In fact it should be a left to right graph..

Dallenn Minmatar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.07.02 14:52:00 - [71] We need more statistics! Honestly, if there was a huge rage quit, we'll have to wait until the subscriptions run out before we see it in the numbers. For now, I'd go with the sunny weather. It's quite awesome right now around here.
JMERCENARY	Posted - 2011.07.02 15:08:00 - [72] Originally by: Franz Sigel Originally by: Professional Russian Normally run incursions on Friday night, and couldn't find a fleet tonight for 3 hours. 26k online for a Friday night. Ouch. What did you do CCP? Begin of german summer holiday season, возможно? Started in Berlin, Brandenburg and Hamburg this weekend, and some days ago in Rheinland-Pfalz, Saarland, and Hessen. That makes for a considerable part of the population. There's a reason why they translate their planned statement into русский AND немецкий язык ... (This post was provided by a Professional GermanÖ) Lot's of people cannot afford vacations like they used to do this year. There were expected larger numbers online and for EVE this is not happening.
JMERCENARY	Posted - 2011.07.02 15:18:00 - [73] Edited by: JMERCENARY on 02/07/2011 15:20:02 Originally by: Hakkar'al Gallente Its a well known fact (among people outside of whiny EVE O forums **heads) that the human brain is brilliant in finding patterns and relations where none exist. Look outside, alternatively at calendar? What about other games, where they still keep getting higher numbers at holidays and weekdays? Le me see... THEY get higher numbers, EVE doesn't. Gee what this could mean? Originally by:** Fury Poljus Originally by: El'Niaga Part of that could be folks celebrating Holidays. (Canada Day in Canada) (Star of 4th of July Weekend in United States) World of tanks still manages to have over 30000 players thow Oh noes! Facts!
Maeve Nightside	Posted - 2011.07.02 15:25:00 - [74] PCU in Perpetuum is way up....must be suffering from the holiday and the weather. Although PCU in EvE is down, speculation regarding the reason is just that. Personally, I have not been on due to the changes in Incarna and disillusionment with CCP tipping my interest toward doing something else and generally damping my enthusiasm for logging on.
010101010101	Posted - 2011.07.02 15:37:00 - [75] there is alot of people that cant run more than one account now too due to incarna and there pc bursting into flames if they try to run a more than one client at a time lol
ninjaholic	Posted - 2011.07.02 15:42:00 - [76] Originally by: 010101010101 there is alot of people that cant run more than one account now too due to incarna and there pc bursting into flames if they try to run a more than one client at a time lol ^ This. Plus there's the people with melted graphics cards and blue-screens. I can't run more than one client because my machine has a memory exception party and my gaming addiction's not invited. + Support EVE's own IN-GAME fight record tool!
JMERCENARY	Posted - 2011.07.02 16:01:00 - [77] Edited by: JMERCENARY on 02/07/2011 16:01:34 Originally by: Maeve Nightside PCU in Perpetuum is way up....must be suffering from the holiday and the weather. Although PCU in EvE is down, speculation regarding the reason is just that. Personally, I have not been on due to the changes in Incarna and disillusionment with CCP tipping my interest toward doing something else and generally damping my enthusiasm for logging on. Originally by: mail you received this letter, because you have registered with Perpetuum, but never actually logged into the game. First of all, we would like to ask you if you had any technical difficulties that we could help you with. Feel free to mail any problems to [email protected] and your case will be handled with priority. I never got an activation EMAIL! These people are worst than CCP Give it time their setrvers will be emptying too.
Zakua Corbin	Posted - 2011.07.02 16:05:00 - [78] Was getting laid..unf unf unf
Othran Brutor Tribe	Posted - 2011.07.02 16:08:00 - [79] Originally by: ninjaholic Originally by: 010101010101 there is alot of people that cant run more than one account now too due to incarna and there pc bursting into flames if they try to run a more than one client at a time lol ^ This. Plus there's the people with melted graphics cards and blue-screens. I can't run more than one client because my machine has a memory exception party and my gaming addiction's not invited. For people in this situation I'm not going to give you crap about how s/w can't kill h/w. It can. So what to do? 1) Turn off the hair/cloth simulation option. This appears to be for char creation only but it isn't. This is the PhysX part of the engine so if you have a single Nvidia card it'll make your gpu/video memory run hotter; if you have an ATI card then it'll make your cpu run hotter; 2) Play around with texture quality. There's something not right with CQ - it uses WAY too much texture memory for what is being displayed. I'm no expert in this but it looks to me like there are multiple texture layers being loaded but not displayed; 3) Set VSync on. This should limit any strange iterative loop effects. HTH although I don't much care if it does or not at this stage
Lao Mah Caldari	Posted - 2011.07.02 16:09:00 - [80] Holidays? Vacation? You mean to say that people only play during their workdays? How come numbers used to rise during weekend? For me taking a week off of the job meant playing EVE for a week. Still have some time before my accounts run out. Though I seem to be spending more time here than ingame. (not that i'm here much) Kind of sucks to login. Like that door is telling me to **** off. I guess it is saying just that. And I guess I obeyed by unsubscribing my accounts. ---- And you tell me Over and over and over again, my friend Ah, you dont believe We're on the EVE of Destruction -------- Dominion - Tyrannis - Incursion - Incarna - Destruction

Maeve Nightside	Posted - 2011.07.02 16:10:00 - [81] Originally by: JMERCENARY Edited by: JMERCENARY on 02/07/2011 16:01:34 Originally by: Maeve Nightside PCU in Perpetuum is way up....must be suffering from the holiday and the weather. Although PCU in EvE is down, speculation regarding the reason is just that. Personally, I have not been on due to the changes in Incarna and disillusionment with CCP tipping my interest toward doing something else and generally damping my enthusiasm for logging on. Originally by: mail you received this letter, because you have registered with Perpetuum, but never actually logged into the game. First of all, we would like to ask you if you had any technical difficulties that we could help you with. Feel free to mail any problems to [email protected] and your case will be handled with priority. I never got an activation EMAIL! These people are worst than CCP Give it time their setrvers will be emptying too. Wow. Was pretty simple process. Might want to try sending an e-mail to them; they are really responsive. I have notice really nice customer service and GM/Dev interactions far.
Spurty Caldari V0LTA VOLTA Corp	Posted - 2011.07.02 16:14:00 - [82] 4th of July Loooooooong weekend. Everyone's on the beach. I just came back to post in this thread ;0 Not really, I'm waiting on the hotdogs to cook before I go back to the beach. -- MT? Character Bazaar right?
Omara Otawan	Posted - 2011.07.02 16:20:00 - [83] Originally by: Gordon Hellbender Originally by: Rushnik Edited by: Rushnik on 02/07/2011 07:56:04 Lets take a look at this: http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility What do we conlude? All-time, we're down to half. This month, not much difference. Dude, that graph is from right to left. To make it perfectly clear, the past is to the right, and the future comes in from the left.
Professional Russian	Posted - 2011.07.02 18:29:00 - [84] I honestly don't get all the 4th of July stuff. 4th is Monday, on Monday I will roll out of the house and go light fireworks and maybe watch a fireworks show for 3 hours. Other then that its business as usual Fri/Sat. Don't know what other people are doing, but for my whole life, we light fireworks at the house for the 4th.
Ianus Caldari Geminus Gateway	Posted - 2011.07.02 18:39:00 - [85] Originally by: Lao Mah Holidays? Vacation? You mean to say that people only play during their workdays? How come numbers used to rise during weekend? For me taking a week off of the job meant playing EVE for a week. Still have some time before my accounts run out. Though I seem to be spending more time here than ingame. (not that i'm here much) Kind of sucks to login. Like that door is telling me to **** off. I guess it is saying just that. And I guess I obeyed by unsubscribing my accounts. This ^ I didn't believe it at first but player interest in (actually playing) EVE definitively declined over the past 2 weeks. It might be just a temporary hiccup, unrelated to the expansion/leaks/etc, soon to return to normal. But as I write this I can't help but feel some wishful thinking guiding my hand.
Addrake Minmatar Brothers At Arms Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2011.07.02 18:48:00 - [86] Originally by: Gordon Hellbender Originally by: Rushnik Edited by: Rushnik on 02/07/2011 07:56:04 Lets take a look at this: http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility What do we conlude? All-time, we're down to half. This month, not much difference. You need to actually mouse over the bottom graph that gives metrics for eve's life since 2006. It actually reads, 2011 ---------- 2006 So the correct conclusion is that all-time we are double what we started with.


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