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Professional Russian
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Posted - 2011.07.02 07:39:00 -
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Normally run incursions on Friday night, and couldn't find a fleet tonight for 3 hours. 26k online for a Friday night. Ouch. What did you do CCP?
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Harcosi
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Posted - 2011.07.02 07:49:00 -
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You want a fleet? 2000 AUR!
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Valentina Valentia
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.07.02 07:51:00 -
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I think that the number of bugs and the fear of melting PCs, along with general annoyance - like the fact I lost a Maller today to a simply Client freeze up and crash (not that it was much, would have been much worse had I lose my HAC or Hulk to such a thing) and so people are just rather put off.
Probably will see more and more people leaving for other things and only log in to check this or that - the days of playing hardcore are over until such time as CCP fixes this stuff, puts in the old hangar as an option and generally gets there house in order.
CSM hasn't said much and doubtful that they will have much to say - CCP proper hasn't said anything either - and unlike Bill Clinton's - when in crisis, say nothing, CCP really didn't do itself any favors with the silence or the lack of response to the real concerns. Instead they skated around the edges and didn't say much of anything.
This then is were we are at. People have lost that since of EVE is fun, and worth the time - most of my mates have gone to the pub (or something other on the PC) and give EVE a rest. Remains to be seen if they have done her in for good. I for one am not sub-ed now, I will PLEX until my ISK is gone and watch what happens - if I can't make ISK for broken game functions and all then I guess I will pass on to another game, if things start to work again - well then will see.
Anyway - the bugs are what are getting me and my mates - we have tried for a few days now to get things going and there are just too many broken game features and reboots needed to get things going - the skills bug, the turret bugs, etc... alot of broken stuff - besides CQ and MTs and all that crap... so, why risk what you have on a glitch - I am down one Maller, but hey them is the breaks. But I am sure not playing with anything expensive until this has gone past and PvP is definitly out of it, the Skills crap there sank that - no one is going to try anything, so you have carebears prob minding all things POS and such going on and that is it.
= Negative
= Mission Runners
= Carebears and Traders
= Everyone at CCP
YOU have been now Updated on things! - Yea... 
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catinboots
Minmatar Vintage heavy industries
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Posted - 2011.07.02 07:52:00 -
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Edited by: catinboots on 02/07/2011 07:53:00 You seem to forget that the summer vacation months started in most of the northren hemisphere and looking at the time you posted that ...well
And stop giving me these negative brainwaves ________________________________________ Minmatar are like jedi knights, we use ductape as our force, it has a darkside and a sticky side
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El'Niaga
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.07.02 07:52:00 -
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Part of that could be folks celebrating Holidays.
(Canada Day in Canada) (Star of 4th of July Weekend in United States)
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Garcia Fox
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Posted - 2011.07.02 07:52:00 -
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Originally by: Professional Russian Normally run incursions on Friday night, and couldn't find a fleet tonight for 3 hours. 26k online for a Friday night. Ouch. What did you do CCP?
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Rushnik
Minmatar Anhalter's Minions
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Posted - 2011.07.02 07:56:00 -
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Edited by: Rushnik on 02/07/2011 07:56:04 Lets take a look at this:
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
What do we conlude?
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Harcosi
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Posted - 2011.07.02 07:58:00 -
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Originally by: Rushnik Edited by: Rushnik on 02/07/2011 07:56:04 Lets take a look at this:
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
What do we conlude?
Right to left graphs are stupid?
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Mallak Azaria
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Posted - 2011.07.02 07:58:00 -
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Originally by: Professional Russian Normally run incursions on Friday night, and couldn't find a fleet tonight for 3 hours. 26k online for a Friday night. Ouch. What did you do CCP?
People did stuff. In real life.
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ScreenWipe
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.07.02 08:00:00 -
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You'll be noticing less people online for the next 3 months, so go find a new hobby 
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King Rothgar
Path of the Fallen
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Posted - 2011.07.02 08:05:00 -
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The number of active players always drops around major holidays. This weekend is a major holiday in the USA so much of the US player base is off doing stuff IRL. As for CCP's recent actions, they really haven't altered that much. I miss my station spinning but that hasn't pushed me away from the game, it's a minor gripe. There have been a number of lag/DC problems but those come and go, nothing new there really.
Their responses to MT have been a little less than ideal, but so far they have shown no signs of adding anything RMT/MT wise that isn't cosmetic only. I really don't care if people spend $60 US to buy a pixel monocle. I only care about such things if doing so get's them that golden drake.
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2011.07.02 08:09:00 -
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Originally by: Professional Russian Normally run incursions on Friday night, and couldn't find a fleet tonight for 3 hours. 26k online for a Friday night. Ouch. What did you do CCP?
NO WAY!!
Couldn't find a crew on the 4th of July weekend in the states coupled with the Canada Day weekend in some other country.
Go figure!
Mr Epeen 
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Jimmy Duce
Navy of Xoc
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Posted - 2011.07.02 08:13:00 -
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Originally by: King Rothgar The number of active players always drops around major holidays.
You are making crap up. Numbers spikes on weekends and holidays. This was a sucky expansion and CCP had sucky PR with how they rolled it out and responded to the critisims. That is why numbers are down. 3 months from now if we are bearly crawling back to 40K online don't lie to yourself about the huge success this expansion was, we used to have 50+k online on average.
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loony thezoon
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Posted - 2011.07.02 08:18:00 -
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Major sov holding alliance.
Couldn't get a fleet together in European prime time on a Friday.
I logged out and stayed logged out.
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Kojach Baumherr
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Posted - 2011.07.02 08:25:00 -
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what were you trying to get into a fleet with? no one wanted me and my apply named logistics osprey "cantblvitsnot basi" they said i was trollin and should get a monocle to be more successful 
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Franz Sigel
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Posted - 2011.07.02 08:33:00 -
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Originally by: Professional Russian Normally run incursions on Friday night, and couldn't find a fleet tonight for 3 hours. 26k online for a Friday night. Ouch. What did you do CCP?
Begin of german summer holiday season, возможно? Started in Berlin, Brandenburg and Hamburg this weekend, and some days ago in Rheinland-Pfalz, Saarland, and Hessen. That makes for a considerable part of the population. There's a reason why they translate their planned statement into русский AND немецкий язык ... 
(This post was provided by a Professional GermanÖ)
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Caiyuga Onishi
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Posted - 2011.07.02 08:43:00 -
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I can only speak for myself.. like many I did not log in after the protest in the major trade hubs. We got what we wanted, CCP's attention.
Now we log out and wait for the statement. No statement no subscription no login. Same goes for the introduction of gold ammo in said statement. The drop in numbers really doesn't have anything to do with holidays/weekend or any of this crap. After all you play more EVE in your freetime than while you're at work.. right?
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Evalon Fury
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Posted - 2011.07.02 08:53:00 -
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Originally by: Caiyuga Onishi I can only speak for myself.. like many I did not log in after the protest in the major trade hubs. We got what we wanted, CCP's attention.
Now we log out and wait for the statement. No statement no subscription no login. Same goes for the introduction of gold ammo in said statement. The drop in numbers really doesn't have anything to do with holidays/weekend or any of this crap. After all you play more EVE in your freetime than while you're at work.. right?
This.
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Monstress
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Posted - 2011.07.02 08:54:00 -
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Originally by: Kojach Baumherr what were you trying to get into a fleet with? no one wanted me and my apply named logistics osprey "cantblvitsnot basi" they said i was trollin and should get a monocle to be more successful 
Never. Stop. Poasting.
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Gordon Hellbender
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Posted - 2011.07.02 08:58:00 -
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Originally by: Rushnik Edited by: Rushnik on 02/07/2011 07:56:04 Lets take a look at this:
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
What do we conlude?
All-time, we're down to half. This month, not much difference.
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Caiyuga Onishi
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Posted - 2011.07.02 09:03:00 -
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Originally by: Gordon Hellbender
Originally by: Rushnik Edited by: Rushnik on 02/07/2011 07:56:04 Lets take a look at this:
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
What do we conlude?
All-time, we're down to half. This month, not much difference.
Check the "Past week" graph. You can clearly see a drop of at least 10k players after sunday 26th (thats where the protest slowly faded into just logging out and waiting for CCPs response)
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.07.02 09:51:00 -
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Originally by: Caiyuga Onishi
Originally by: Gordon Hellbender
Originally by: Rushnik Edited by: Rushnik on 02/07/2011 07:56:04 Lets take a look at this:
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
What do we conlude?
All-time, we're down to half. This month, not much difference.
The drop is even clearer on the server graph on the eveonline.com front page (on the right hand side after you scroll down a little) as it has separate lines for last week and this week. Check the "Past week" graph. You can clearly see a drop of at least 10k players after sunday 26th (thats where the protest slowly faded into just logging out and waiting for CCPs response)
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Syphon Lodian
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.02 09:57:00 -
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It's also the 4th of July weekend in the US, where even hardcore nerds might think about logging-off their gamez and going outside to get cheezburger under the fireworkz. Some even leave their domiciles to visit their associated entities in their cross-terrain domiciles.
Though I bet you'll all neglect to tally environmental factors into your astute equations, and just call the 4th of July weekend possible server lulls, a "protest prewf". Even though a guaranteed 95% of the 'protesters' are coming back after having a cheezburger (or hot dog if it suits your fancy) and generally not caring about the drama anymore.
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Brooks Puuntai
Minmatar Nomadic Asylum
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Posted - 2011.07.02 10:01:00 -
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Its shocking that usually during holiday weekends the online users usually are still high and sometimes higher then normal. You know due to people actually being off work and school and all. Most events last a couple hours then people are right back to their super serious internet spaceships.
Funny to see people trying to spin the holiday excuse now.
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Syphon Lodian
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.02 10:04:00 -
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It's not an excuse. It's an offered explanation other than the "it's the protest, unassailable logic", where you people start threads and only allow whining, or else the person is a CCP ALT, alien, CIA etc.
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Brooks Puuntai
Minmatar Nomadic Asylum
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Posted - 2011.07.02 10:10:00 -
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Edited by: Brooks Puuntai on 02/07/2011 10:10:19
Originally by: Syphon Lodian It's not an excuse. It's an offered explanation other than the "it's the protest, unassailable logic", where you people start threads and only allow whining, or else the person is a CCP ALT, alien, CIA etc.
I never said it was because of or is a protest.
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Snake Scofield
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Posted - 2011.07.02 10:14:00 -
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Originally by: Rushnik Edited by: Rushnik on 02/07/2011 07:56:04 Lets take a look at this:
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
What do we conlude?
That the all-time graph is showing twice as many players now as there were in 2006?
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Zanes Shoubje
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Posted - 2011.07.02 10:14:00 -
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Look at past month and past 6 months. Peak numbers at the beginning of time period are around 43k. Would be nice to have a moving average though.
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Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2011.07.02 10:18:00 -
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Originally by: Rushnik Edited by: Rushnik on 02/07/2011 07:56:04 Lets take a look at this:
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
What do we conlude?
That new features sell better than polishing up existing stuff?
Oh wait ....

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CCFAIL
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Posted - 2011.07.02 10:20:00 -
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Originally by: Rushnik Edited by: Rushnik on 02/07/2011 07:56:04 Lets take a look at this:
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
What do we conlude?
Eve is dieing at a faster rate then expected?
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Reloadin
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Posted - 2011.07.02 10:26:00 -
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Graphs, how do they work?
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JC Anderson
Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.07.02 10:51:00 -
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Hrm, yeah the Eve-Online front page server graph does seem to show the noticeable drop in logins. But as other people have mentioned, it's possible that other factors might contribute to this.
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Glarealot
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Posted - 2011.07.02 10:53:00 -
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I don't doubt the overall number of people who log into the game has decreased. The charts don't lie.
But that said we are still 3x or more larger than EVE in 2006. Plus, not all of them may be rage quitters... CQ prolly burned out the video cards of at least half those people. 0_o
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Nova Satar
Sileo In Pacis
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Posted - 2011.07.02 11:02:00 -
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i think its ****ing great. I LOVED eve when there was 30k players peak, it's been bloody awful for the last years, lets bring back the good times where you dont get ganked by a 20man gang every 10 seconds,.
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Cebraio
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Posted - 2011.07.02 11:05:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Satar i think its ****ing great. I LOVED eve when there was 30k players peak, it's been bloody awful for the last years, lets bring back the good times where you dont get ganked by a 20man gang every 10 seconds,.
Yep, I like hauling PI stuff out of low sec on a friday night, without seeing even a single ship in space. Good times!
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Mersault
Gallente The Pie Factory
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Posted - 2011.07.02 11:09:00 -
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1) 4th of July holiday weekend
2) really nice weather - lots of people go out and do 'stuff' in the summer it always happens
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BLACK-STAR
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Posted - 2011.07.02 11:14:00 -
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<stutter excuse about weather , holidays , and people go outside. or maybe a massive amount of people really ****ing hate everything about the incarna deployment > |

Mutnin
Amarr Mutineers
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Posted - 2011.07.02 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: Syphon Lodian It's not an excuse. It's an offered explanation other than the "it's the protest, unassailable logic", where you people start threads and only allow whining, or else the person is a CCP ALT, alien, CIA etc.
How many people do you doubters need to tell you that they aren't logging on much til they see what CCP say, before you actually listen?
Personally, I did a lot of over time at work this week, but TBH after the whole MT deal and other issues with this update added to CCP's lack of respect to it's player base, welp I haven't had much desire to log on much in my off time either.
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Indusy
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Posted - 2011.07.02 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Mutnin
Originally by: Syphon Lodian It's not an excuse. It's an offered explanation other than the "it's the protest, unassailable logic", where you people start threads and only allow whining, or else the person is a CCP ALT, alien, CIA etc.
How many people do you doubters need to tell you that they aren't logging on much til they see what CCP say, before you actually listen?
Personally, I did a lot of over time at work this week, but TBH after the whole MT deal and other issues with this update added to CCP's lack of respect to it's player base, welp I haven't had much desire to log on much in my off time either.
fact #2 min35:21
Notice how from june to september there's a monthly users drop due to summer vacations according to them. It's a matter of perception.
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Gloria Stitz
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Posted - 2011.07.02 11:33:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Satar i think its ****ing great. I LOVED eve when there was 30k players peak, it's been bloody awful for the last years, lets bring back the good times where you dont get ganked by a 20man gang every 10 seconds,.
CCP didn't have the expenses then that it does now - Eve might be better with a lower population, but CCP would be in trouble. ------------- 'Don't try to learn Eve all at once, otherwise your brain will explode' - Albert Einstein ------------ |

ko4e
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Posted - 2011.07.02 11:36:00 -
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lol 4th of july, isn't that when the french blockaded the US to stop us brits kicking the little rebelion butt.
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Lonox
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Posted - 2011.07.02 11:36:00 -
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Edited by: Lonox on 02/07/2011 11:36:41 Oh, sorry about that. I've been out partying with the girls. Had a few zima's and got sooooooo wasted. Pillow fight!
Originally by: Holly Cleland has red bruising and veins popping up where the monocle plugs in.
No wonder you people are so angry, you're doing it wrong.  |

Ghoest
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Posted - 2011.07.02 11:38:00 -
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To be fair I think the 4th in the US and Canada Day probably pull people away from their PCs more and longer than any other spring summer or fall holidays.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Zhula Guixgrixks
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Posted - 2011.07.02 11:41:00 -
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The the german/russian translation hamsters are unsubbing.
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Estephania
Independent Political Analysts
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Posted - 2011.07.02 11:46:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Satar i think its ****ing great. I LOVED eve when there was 30k players peak, it's been bloody awful for the last years, lets bring back the good times where you dont get ganked by a 20man gang every 10 seconds,.
QFT, Eve is still fun, but isn't even near as fun as it was in 2006-7. Back then you could jump into an inty and roam solo or with a small gang. Since then Eve had become supercaps online and faction ships online. Small scale PvP is dead unless you are doing it in 1 bill each ships. Alliance warfare is unimaginable without dropping 80 supercaps on your enemy. Eve is slowly crawling down the drain, but CCP is busy milking us and developing bloodsuckers online...
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Ris Dnalor
Minmatar Fleet of Doom RaVeN Federation
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Posted - 2011.07.02 11:56:00 -
[46]
Edited by: Ris Dnalor on 02/07/2011 12:02:08 Edited by: Ris Dnalor on 02/07/2011 11:56:37 EDIT: Graphs don't like me vmaa.
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v0cal minority
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Posted - 2011.07.02 12:51:00 -
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Originally by: Estephania
Originally by: Nova Satar i think its ****ing great. I LOVED eve when there was 30k players peak, it's been bloody awful for the last years, lets bring back the good times where you dont get ganked by a 20man gang every 10 seconds,.
QFT, Eve is still fun, but isn't even near as fun as it was in 2006-7. Back then you could jump into an inty and roam solo or with a small gang. Since then Eve had become supercaps online and faction ships online. Small scale PvP is dead unless you are doing it in 1 bill each ships. Alliance warfare is unimaginable without dropping 80 supercaps on your enemy. Eve is slowly crawling down the drain, but CCP is busy milking us and developing bloodsuckers online...
Aren't we already playing bloodsuckers online ?
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Benilopax
Gallente Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2011.07.02 13:02:00 -
[48]
So eve hasn't been over 48k PCU since the last major protest, that doesn't include the 4th of July weekend. A fair few pilots have disappeared this last week. ----------------------------------- New Eden Chronicles: Prime, Coming soon. |

Goodwill City
Amarr The Society of Goodwill
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Posted - 2011.07.02 13:07:00 -
[49]
Don't want to see Eve or CCP fail. But they've brought this on themselves.
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UGWidowmaker
Caldari freelancers inc -Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2011.07.02 13:11:00 -
[50]
half of my corp is on vecation now.. lol.. as always in the sommer the stats drop a bit. OMFG
I am the widowmaker stay tuned.
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BlkQueen
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Posted - 2011.07.02 13:11:00 -
[51]
It's called a H-O-L-I-D-A-Y. Some people step away from their PCs during a H-O-L-I-D-A-Y. Understand?
I think some would love to believe that the drop is due to protests so they can stroke thier egos thinking that they have some sort of power of CCP. These players need to think again. Eve will continue with or without you. So move along please, and most importantly...
Deal with it.
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Markarian Aurelius
Caldari Bureau of Interstellar Exploration
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Posted - 2011.07.02 13:12:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Professional Russian Normally run incursions on Friday night, and couldn't find a fleet tonight for 3 hours. 26k online for a Friday night. Ouch. What did you do CCP?
To be fair, it is 4th of July weekend here in the US. People are usually out partying, traveling, or doing other stuff outside of the house. That's always been my experience during my last 32 years.
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Zanes Shoubje
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Posted - 2011.07.02 13:15:00 -
[53]
Again get some real numbers with some proper graphs.
And two months from now all the unsubbers will realize nothing much has actually changed and EVE is still the best MMO ever and they will come crawling back.
A graph going down does not mean it will go to zero.
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Silas Cooper
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Posted - 2011.07.02 13:19:00 -
[54]
Also, don't forget that a lot of extra accounts that are run are the free 51 day ones, many of which people have no intentions for to actually start paying. So the numbers we've been seeing for a while (since they started that stunt) are essentially faked.
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Ban Doga
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Posted - 2011.07.02 13:40:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Indusy
Originally by: Mutnin
Originally by: Syphon Lodian It's not an excuse. It's an offered explanation other than the "it's the protest, unassailable logic", where you people start threads and only allow whining, or else the person is a CCP ALT, alien, CIA etc.
How many people do you doubters need to tell you that they aren't logging on much til they see what CCP say, before you actually listen?
Personally, I did a lot of over time at work this week, but TBH after the whole MT deal and other issues with this update added to CCP's lack of respect to it's player base, welp I haven't had much desire to log on much in my off time either.
fact #2 min35:21
Notice how from june to september there's a monthly users drop due to summer vacations according to them. It's a matter of perception.
First of all that's the number of new users. Not the number of currently active users.
And if you look a little bit to the left, exactly one year earlier, you will notice that the big increase happened right in the middle of summer.
Strange, he just explained that that's the time when everyone is away from their computers... 
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Pok Nibin
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Posted - 2011.07.02 13:47:00 -
[56]
Happy Birthday to US! Happy Birthday to US! Happy Birthday dear good old U - S of A!! Happy Birthday to US!
Time to roll out the grill, burn a few hotdogs, and run inside cause of the RAIN!
Happy Fourth ebbybuddy!
(Happy Canada Day too, y'all up there in the far nawth!)
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Mukutep
Saberick Interest and Development Free Traders of EVE
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Posted - 2011.07.02 13:49:00 -
[57]
Until you've conducted big surveys and interviewed a large representation of the population, you have no idea what you're talking about.
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Thomas Orca
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.02 14:01:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Harcosi Right to left graphs are stupid?
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jason hill
Caldari Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.07.02 14:02:00 -
[59]
i harken back to the halcyon days of 2003/4 when we used to just have 6/7k peeps logging at peak times ....ohh happy days 
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Hakkar'al Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.02 14:07:00 -
[60]
Its a well known fact (among people outside of whiny EVE O forums ****heads) that the human brain is brilliant in finding patterns and relations where none exist.
Look outside, alternatively at calendar?
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Othran
Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.07.02 14:11:00 -
[61]
All this stuff about holidays is good and are indeed valid reasons for PCU drop.
However explain to my poor confused brain why the current PCU counts are less than those of a year ago.
CCP have their most :awesome: expansion out and PCU isn't just down on a week ago, its down on a year ago. Do note that PRE-DATES the :18months: rage.
Spin that 
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Rhaegor Stormborn
BURN EDEN Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.07.02 14:13:00 -
[62]
There is definately a decline in interest and activity in Eve since the release of Incarna. Will it be temporary? We can only say 3 months from now.
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Goodwill City
Amarr The Society of Goodwill
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Posted - 2011.07.02 14:16:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Hakkar'al Gallente Its a well known fact (among people outside of whiny EVE O forums ****heads) that the human brain is brilliant in finding patterns and relations where none exist.
Yeah guys, it's all in your head. Also, those graphs can only be relied upon when they show an increase.
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Delta Jax
NixCraft IMPERIAL LEGI0N
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Posted - 2011.07.02 14:17:00 -
[64]
I've noticed as well a drop in player participation, about the time all the controversy came out about non-vanity MT's. Though some have been from hardware burnout, the others have mostly become disenfranchised with eve because of all of the B.S.
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Markus Jome
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Posted - 2011.07.02 14:21:00 -
[65]
Originally by: catinboots Edited by: catinboots on 02/07/2011 07:53:00 You seem to forget that the summer vacation months started in most of the northren hemisphere and looking at the time you posted that ...well [...]
If there are vacation months, why is the number of players not rising?
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Jaroslav Unwanted
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Posted - 2011.07.02 14:29:00 -
[66]
Originally by: El'Niaga Part of that could be folks celebrating Holidays.
(Canada Day in Canada) (Star of 4th of July Weekend in United States)
Hey, you are being rational.
Get out of the forums, you dont belong there.
This forum is reserved for tin foil conspiracy theories, whining, and more whining.
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Fury Poljus
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Posted - 2011.07.02 14:31:00 -
[67]
Originally by: El'Niaga Part of that could be folks celebrating Holidays.
(Canada Day in Canada) (Star of 4th of July Weekend in United States)
World of tanks still manages to have over 30000 players thow 
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Kin Netics
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Posted - 2011.07.02 14:32:00 -
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I'm pretty sure its a holiday weekend and the US is blowing up craptons of fireworks this weekend.... troll moar??
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Othran
Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.07.02 14:37:00 -
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Originally by: Jaroslav Unwanted
Hey, you are being rational.
Get out of the forums, you dont belong there.
This forum is reserved for tin foil conspiracy theories, whining, and more whining.
Oh I see, you only celebrate it every few years then? Same as 4th July?
GTFO - the PCU this year is less than the PCU last year on the same days.
Now if I'd just deployed my most :awesome: expansion ever and was telling myself I'd recovered from the :18months: rage (30k+ subs went then) I'm not sure that even in my most delusional moments I would claim this a success. Failing to lift the PCU above that of the same day a year ago when you have a shiny new expansion is a failure.
That would require someone in CCP to recognise that it isn't just Incarna and by the time they start focusing on the game then all they will have left is halfwits like you - and I HAVE heard you in NPC chat, you're utterly clueless 
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Rushnik
Minmatar Anhalter's Minions
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Posted - 2011.07.02 14:50:00 -
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Edited by: Rushnik on 02/07/2011 14:52:09
Originally by: Harcosi
Originally by: Rushnik Edited by: Rushnik on 02/07/2011 07:56:04 Lets take a look at this:
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
What do we conlude?
Right to left graphs are stupid?
In fact it should be a left to right graph..
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Dallenn
Minmatar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2011.07.02 14:52:00 -
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We need more statistics! Honestly, if there was a huge rage quit, we'll have to wait until the subscriptions run out before we see it in the numbers.
For now, I'd go with the sunny weather. It's quite awesome right now around here.
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JMERCENARY
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Posted - 2011.07.02 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: Franz Sigel
Originally by: Professional Russian Normally run incursions on Friday night, and couldn't find a fleet tonight for 3 hours. 26k online for a Friday night. Ouch. What did you do CCP?
Begin of german summer holiday season, возможно? Started in Berlin, Brandenburg and Hamburg this weekend, and some days ago in Rheinland-Pfalz, Saarland, and Hessen. That makes for a considerable part of the population. There's a reason why they translate their planned statement into русский AND немецкий язык ... 
(This post was provided by a Professional GermanÖ)
Lot's of people cannot afford vacations like they used to do this year. There were expected larger numbers online and for EVE this is not happening. |

JMERCENARY
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Posted - 2011.07.02 15:18:00 -
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Edited by: JMERCENARY on 02/07/2011 15:20:02
Originally by: Hakkar'al Gallente Its a well known fact (among people outside of whiny EVE O forums ****heads) that the human brain is brilliant in finding patterns and relations where none exist.
Look outside, alternatively at calendar?
What about other games, where they still keep getting higher numbers at holidays and weekdays? Le me see... THEY get higher numbers, EVE doesn't. Gee what this could mean?
Originally by: Fury Poljus
Originally by: El'Niaga Part of that could be folks celebrating Holidays.
(Canada Day in Canada) (Star of 4th of July Weekend in United States)
World of tanks still manages to have over 30000 players thow 
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Maeve Nightside
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Posted - 2011.07.02 15:25:00 -
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PCU in Perpetuum is way up....must be suffering from the holiday and the weather.
Although PCU in EvE is down, speculation regarding the reason is just that. Personally, I have not been on due to the changes in Incarna and disillusionment with CCP tipping my interest toward doing something else and generally damping my enthusiasm for logging on.
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010101010101
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Posted - 2011.07.02 15:37:00 -
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there is alot of people that cant run more than one account now too due to incarna and there pc bursting into flames if they try to run a more than one client at a time lol |

ninjaholic
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Posted - 2011.07.02 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: 010101010101 there is alot of people that cant run more than one account now too due to incarna and there pc bursting into flames if they try to run a more than one client at a time lol
^ This. Plus there's the people with melted graphics cards and blue-screens. I can't run more than one client because my machine has a memory exception party and my gaming addiction's not invited.
+ Support EVE's own IN-GAME fight record tool!
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JMERCENARY
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Posted - 2011.07.02 16:01:00 -
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Edited by: JMERCENARY on 02/07/2011 16:01:34
Originally by: Maeve Nightside PCU in Perpetuum is way up....must be suffering from the holiday and the weather.
Although PCU in EvE is down, speculation regarding the reason is just that. Personally, I have not been on due to the changes in Incarna and disillusionment with CCP tipping my interest toward doing something else and generally damping my enthusiasm for logging on.
Originally by: mail you received this letter, because you have registered with Perpetuum, but never actually logged into the game.
First of all, we would like to ask you if you had any technical difficulties that we could help you with. Feel free to mail any problems to [email protected] and your case will be handled with priority.
I never got an activation EMAIL!  These people are worst than CCP Give it time their setrvers will be emptying too. |

Zakua Corbin
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Posted - 2011.07.02 16:05:00 -
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Was getting laid..unf unf unf
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Othran
Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.07.02 16:08:00 -
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Originally by: ninjaholic
Originally by: 010101010101 there is alot of people that cant run more than one account now too due to incarna and there pc bursting into flames if they try to run a more than one client at a time lol
^ This. Plus there's the people with melted graphics cards and blue-screens. I can't run more than one client because my machine has a memory exception party and my gaming addiction's not invited.
For people in this situation I'm not going to give you crap about how s/w can't kill h/w. It can.
So what to do?
1) Turn off the hair/cloth simulation option. This appears to be for char creation only but it isn't. This is the PhysX part of the engine so if you have a single Nvidia card it'll make your gpu/video memory run hotter; if you have an ATI card then it'll make your cpu run hotter;
2) Play around with texture quality. There's something not right with CQ - it uses WAY too much texture memory for what is being displayed. I'm no expert in this but it looks to me like there are multiple texture layers being loaded but not displayed;
3) Set VSync on. This should limit any strange iterative loop effects.
HTH although I don't much care if it does or not at this stage 
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Lao Mah
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.07.02 16:09:00 -
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Holidays? Vacation? You mean to say that people only play during their workdays? How come numbers used to rise during weekend?
For me taking a week off of the job meant playing EVE for a week.
Still have some time before my accounts run out. Though I seem to be spending more time here than ingame. (not that i'm here much)
Kind of sucks to login. Like that door is telling me to **** off. I guess it is saying just that. And I guess I obeyed by unsubscribing my accounts.
---- And you tell me Over and over and over again, my friend Ah, you dont believe We're on the EVE of Destruction -------- Dominion - Tyrannis - Incursion - Incarna - Destruction |

Maeve Nightside
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Posted - 2011.07.02 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: JMERCENARY Edited by: JMERCENARY on 02/07/2011 16:01:34
Originally by: Maeve Nightside PCU in Perpetuum is way up....must be suffering from the holiday and the weather.
Although PCU in EvE is down, speculation regarding the reason is just that. Personally, I have not been on due to the changes in Incarna and disillusionment with CCP tipping my interest toward doing something else and generally damping my enthusiasm for logging on.
Originally by: mail you received this letter, because you have registered with Perpetuum, but never actually logged into the game.
First of all, we would like to ask you if you had any technical difficulties that we could help you with. Feel free to mail any problems to [email protected] and your case will be handled with priority.
I never got an activation EMAIL!  These people are worst than CCP Give it time their setrvers will be emptying too.
Wow. Was pretty simple process. Might want to try sending an e-mail to them; they are really responsive. I have notice really nice customer service and GM/Dev interactions far.
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Spurty
Caldari V0LTA VOLTA Corp
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Posted - 2011.07.02 16:14:00 -
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4th of July Loooooooong weekend.
Everyone's on the beach. I just came back to post in this thread ;0
Not really, I'm waiting on the hotdogs to cook before I go back to the beach.
--
MT? Character Bazaar right?
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Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2011.07.02 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: Gordon Hellbender
Originally by: Rushnik Edited by: Rushnik on 02/07/2011 07:56:04 Lets take a look at this:
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
What do we conlude?
All-time, we're down to half. This month, not much difference.
Dude, that graph is from right to left. To make it perfectly clear, the past is to the right, and the future comes in from the left.
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Professional Russian
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Posted - 2011.07.02 18:29:00 -
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I honestly don't get all the 4th of July stuff. 4th is Monday, on Monday I will roll out of the house and go light fireworks and maybe watch a fireworks show for 3 hours. Other then that its business as usual Fri/Sat. Don't know what other people are doing, but for my whole life, we light fireworks at the house for the 4th.
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Ianus
Caldari Geminus Gateway
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Posted - 2011.07.02 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: Lao Mah Holidays? Vacation? You mean to say that people only play during their workdays? How come numbers used to rise during weekend?
For me taking a week off of the job meant playing EVE for a week.
Still have some time before my accounts run out. Though I seem to be spending more time here than ingame. (not that i'm here much)
Kind of sucks to login. Like that door is telling me to **** off. I guess it is saying just that. And I guess I obeyed by unsubscribing my accounts.
This ^
I didn't believe it at first but player interest in (actually playing) EVE definitively declined over the past 2 weeks.
It might be just a temporary hiccup, unrelated to the expansion/leaks/etc, soon to return to normal. But as I write this I can't help but feel some wishful thinking guiding my hand.
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Addrake
Minmatar Brothers At Arms Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2011.07.02 18:48:00 -
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Originally by: Gordon Hellbender
Originally by: Rushnik Edited by: Rushnik on 02/07/2011 07:56:04 Lets take a look at this:
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
What do we conlude?
All-time, we're down to half. This month, not much difference.
You need to actually mouse over the bottom graph that gives metrics for eve's life since 2006.
It actually reads,
2011 ---------- 2006
So the correct conclusion is that all-time we are double what we started with.
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