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Cosmic Templar
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Posted - 2011.07.04 13:32:00 -
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I'm currently a CEO of a small high sec space corp with around 10 members, mainly engaged in mission running, trading, industry etc.. We are all casual players with no PVP experience, but we were recently war decced by a one man corp who has a large bankroll judging by the number and types of PVP ships he is using. So far we have lost 3 of our members ships while they were running missions, as this player thrives on killing people who have no PVP experience or interest. What options do we have? I'm afraid that I will have to close the corp, because this player seems bent on harassing our small group of players.
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DeBingJos
Minmatar
Goat Holdings
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Posted - 2011.07.04 13:34:00 -
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1/10 Troll
In case you are not trolling: 10 vs 1 -> Gank him.
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Bklyn 1
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Posted - 2011.07.04 13:37:00 -
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1. Gank him as above
2. Jump clones
3. Move out to lowsec or 0.0 for a bit
4. Add him to contacts, dock up if he's in system
etc, etc.
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Vain Eldritch
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.07.04 13:39:00 -
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Failing that, hire mercinaries to hunt him down.
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Cosmic Templar
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Posted - 2011.07.04 13:39:00 -
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Not trolling. Thx for the reply. In the best case scenario, this would be my first option, but as I had said, our players have no interest in taking part, and/or have ZERO skills applicable to a PVP battle. We attempted to kill him with 4 of us who were interested the other evening, which ended up rather embarassing us. He is flying a Mach, and even with 4 ships we could barely scratch him.
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Holy One
Quiet.Storm
Frater Adhuc Excessum
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Posted - 2011.07.04 13:41:00 -
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Welcome to EvE. Hope you enjoyed the extended trial. Go back to WoW etc. 
PS: Contract me all your stuff first plz
BBQ makes me hungry for more... |
ACY GTMI
Veerhouven Group
The Veerhouven Group
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Posted - 2011.07.04 13:42:00 -
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Running missions while war decced is not a good idea. Anyone can use a locator agent and find out what systems and stations you use. All they have to do then is wait.
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Electra GaafCramo
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Posted - 2011.07.04 13:42:00 -
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 Originally by: Holy One
Welcome to EvE. Hope you enjoyed the extended trial. Go back to WoW etc.
PS: Contract me all your stuff first plz
lolnot
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Cosmic Templar
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Posted - 2011.07.04 13:43:00 -
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Don't get me wrong. I'd love to gank him, but seeing as how all our players are relatively new, and or play casually, we don't have players with high SPs that can match someone with an account whos been playing longer than all of us cumulatively.
For some people games are for fun, for others^^^ they become a lifestyle choice.
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Holy One
Quiet.Storm
Frater Adhuc Excessum
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Posted - 2011.07.04 13:44:00 -
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Originally by: Cosmic Templar
Don't get me wrong. I'd love to gank him, but seeing as how all our players are relatively new, and or play casually, we don't have players with high SPs that can match someone with an account whos been playing longer than all of us cumulatively.
For some people games are for fun, for others^^^ they become a lifestyle choice.
What about your Sister Corp., Raptor Navy, which is currently offering European Timezone players who are looking to be part of an emerging low-sec alliance, an opportunity to groom their skills and prepare themselves for all things that low-sec space has to offer? 
BBQ makes me hungry for more... |
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K'iran
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Posted - 2011.07.04 13:45:00 -
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1- learn PVP, you don't have to become fantastic at it but a basic idea of what you're doing isn't very difficult, and helps you further down the road as well.
So, stop flying big ships, start reading guides and ask questions. See this week (or perhaps 2 weeks) as a welcomed learning experience
2- leave the corp and stay in NPC for now
3- pay people to fight for you, but as it's a one man corp serious mercs will probably decline, and if they don't you can assume they're not serious
4- contact the guy and broker a deal
5 keep on dying
I'd opt for #1, it's not very difficult to shut down a single opponent if you have a bunch of PVE pilots. It's not about winning the war, it's about learning to stand your ground and be prepared. If you need more help send me a mail.
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Siri Buelle
Gallente
Section 8 Corp
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Posted - 2011.07.04 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: Holy One
Welcome to EvE. Hope you enjoyed the extended trial. Go back to WoW etc.
PS: Contract me all your stuff first plz
grow up
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Vandrion
Gallente
The Collective
B O R G
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Posted - 2011.07.04 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: Cosmic Templar
Don't get me wrong. I'd love to gank him, but seeing as how all our players are relatively new, and or play casually, we don't have players with high SPs that can match someone with an account whos been playing longer than all of us cumulatively.
For some people games are for fun, for others^^^ they become a lifestyle choice.
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Cosmic Templar
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Posted - 2011.07.04 13:46:00 -
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A bit of a rift there at present I'm afraid, not to mention convincing them to come back to high-sec for empire wars has gotten the response "you guys can handle it." If only....
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djenghis jan
Amarr
Debiloff
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Posted - 2011.07.04 13:46:00 -
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We have had this problem a number of times.
Usually it is an older player who is bored and has a thick wad of cash. After a period where we tried to catch him we found out that the guy only wanted to fight on his terms and logged or docked when the odds were against him. Eventually we hired mercs who had serious difficulty in catching him but managed to pod him eventually. In the end we challenged him for a 1 vs 1 duel after which he left us alone and went after other people.
So
1) do not get annoyed
2) try to kill him yourself preferably using cheap ships like cruisers (you might enjoy this even)
3) hire mercs
4) challenge him to a duel
5) ignore him and play WoW for a week.
6) join an alliance
7) make an alt corp with your corp's name appended with industry or navy or whatever and skip back and forth
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Thor Funaila
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Posted - 2011.07.04 13:48:00 -
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Cosmic, shoot me a message in-game with details on this guy, area of operation, killmails, etc. and I'll see what I can do.
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Othran
Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.07.04 13:48:00 -
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Originally by: Cosmic Templar
Don't get me wrong. I'd love to gank him, but seeing as how all our players are relatively new, and or play casually, we don't have players with high SPs that can match someone with an account whos been playing longer than all of us cumulatively.
For some people games are for fun, for others^^^ they become a lifestyle choice.
It takes a week or so to get into a Griffin with basic ECM skills. If you can't blow him up you can certainly perma-jam him with 4 people. That should cause some smack in local
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Antario T'nar
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Posted - 2011.07.04 13:49:00 -
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he's a single target....neut him, jam him, tackle him, kill him
and just for our info...what 'wide array of ships' is he using?
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Cosmic Templar
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Posted - 2011.07.04 13:49:00 -
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djenghis jan:
Thanks for your reply. And it is the case, that this is an older account whos obviously grown bored with other pursuits. No more WOW references though. WOW is lame. I've had too many arguments with good gamer friends of mine who are convinced the opposite is true.
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DeBingJos
Minmatar
Goat Holdings
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Posted - 2011.07.04 13:50:00 -
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Originally by: Cosmic Templar
Don't get me wrong. I'd love to gank him, but seeing as how all our players are relatively new, and or play casually, we don't have players with high SPs that can match someone with an account whos been playing longer than all of us cumulatively.
For some people games are for fun, for others^^^ they become a lifestyle choice.
A lone Mach is a nice target, you need to adapt to the situation. Use EWAR: Racial ECM and tracking disruptors.
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Cosmic Templar
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Posted - 2011.07.04 13:51:00 -
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@Antario
Thus far, I've seen a Machariel, Cynabal, Broadsword, and a Tengu. That's in the last week just doing spying.
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Illwill Bill
For a fistful of Veldspar
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Posted - 2011.07.04 13:55:00 -
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Buy ten Drakes.
Gank deccer.
Enjoy delicious tears.
I've decced mission corps on occation. It's always dissapointing when noone fights back. 
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Apollo Gabriel
Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels
Etherium Cartel
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Posted - 2011.07.04 13:58:00 -
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Edited by: Apollo Gabriel on 04/07/2011 14:00:45
Get all your guys online NOW
Corps are NOT guilds, you can mission in an NPC corp if you want.
EVE is PVP, period. Stop being worried about losing your ships, get everyone into drakes or similar, fit warp disruptors, and kill him.
It's not hard, it just requires that you try.
Make sure you ALL have warp disruptors and as many as make sense have warp scramblers.
Neut him
ECM him
Demand Ransom
Pod him.
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Cooper Anderson Stewart
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2011.07.04 13:59:00 -
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Yep, not the best way to keep new players in EVE.
Worst part is, even if you pay ransom and do the honorable thomg, CCP allows them to kill you for 24 hours EVEN AFTER the wardec is cancelled.
This is equivalent to griefing, as its Non consentual pvp in highsec. Everyone knows about it and until ccp fixes the broken wardec mechanics, your only recourse is to stay in an npc corp where they cant grief you.
Tl;dr shi tty pvp players who cant handle low or null sec prey on unskilled, unwilling players to grow their tiny tiny epeen and should diaf.
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DeBingJos
Minmatar
Goat Holdings
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Posted - 2011.07.04 14:02:00 -
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Edited by: DeBingJos on 04/07/2011 14:02:29
Originally by: Cooper Anderson Stewart
Yep, not the best way to keep new players in EVE.
This is equivalent to griefing, as its Non consentual pvp in highsec. Everyone knows about it and until ccp fixes the broken wardec mechanics, your only recourse is to stay in an npc corp where they cant grief you.
It's a war, what do you expect? 10 vs 1 LET ME REPEAT 10 versus 1!!!
Get 2 blackbirds, 2 rifters for tackle and the rest in ruptures for dps. Kill.
Edit: All your ships together cost lest than 1/5th of his Mach.
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Bad Messenger
draketrain
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Posted - 2011.07.04 14:02:00 -
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Originally by: Apollo Gabriel
Edited by: Apollo Gabriel on 04/07/2011 14:00:45
Get all your guys online NOW
Corps are NOT guilds, you can mission in an NPC corp if you want.
EVE is PVP, period. Stop being worried about losing your ships, get everyone into drakes or similar, fit warp disruptors, and kill him.
It's not hard, it just requires that you try.
Make sure you ALL have warp disruptors and as many as make sense have warp scramblers.
Neut him
ECM him
Demand Ransom
Pod him.
Sadly that is not usually enough.
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djenghis jan
Amarr
Debiloff
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Posted - 2011.07.04 14:02:00 -
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Edited by: djenghis jan on 04/07/2011 14:06:23
Edited by: djenghis jan on 04/07/2011 14:05:44
@templar
i did not mean the WoW ref as an insult to you, i have been in your position and am currently bored a bit and am now trying planetary interaction :-)
nevertheless if he is flying high end ships from different races you are in for a treat, that requires a lot of sp's. Remember though that a single ship needs to fit a lot of mods so an unexpected counter like sig tanking or specific ewar can have succes.
btw what also worked in our case is recruit alts from trusted local corps (don't forget to restrict hanger access and rights), set up an sp plan that works without additional training, hand out fitted ships like kestrels (you can produce these locally) and ask them to relog to the alt when required.
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Holy One
Quiet.Storm
Frater Adhuc Excessum
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Posted - 2011.07.04 14:07:00 -
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1. You have no chance. Make your time.
2. If you feed them ships they'll just come back for more.
3. ....
4. Quit.
You don't need to be in a corp with 5 guys running missions. Go NPC.
Alternatively: stop failing to 'get' EvE entirely and seriously go back to WoW.
BBQ makes me hungry for more... |
sYnc Vir
Caldari
Wolfsbrigade
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Posted - 2011.07.04 14:11:00 -
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1 dude? Dont you watch local when at war? Maybe start mission elsewhere and keep an eye on local from now on.
Or have a phoon in station ready to go, 3 nuets, 1 webs 1 scam, 1 Cap injector.
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I fly carelessly, without focus and semi afk all the time.
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Christopher Merchentson
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Posted - 2011.07.04 14:12:00 -
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10 vs 1 does not mean they will be able to beat him. lol. I've seen a 1-man corp war dec eve university and he defeated them in all fleet engagements. The Eve Uni newb fleets weren't even able to reach him to damage him.
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