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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
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Posted - 2011.07.07 15:02:00 -
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http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/07/07/ccp-partners-with-nexon-to-release-eve-online-and-dust-514-in-ja/
Looks like we'll be getting a huge influx of Japanese players later this year when the game is released in Japan. Unlike the China release, they're also going to be connecting to TQ. So hopefully we'll see a huge Japanese power bloc emerge and there will be some interesting political times ahead in 0.0 
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Alotta Baggage
Amarr
Coarition of Poorry Stereotyped Asian Peopre
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Posted - 2011.07.07 15:04:00 -
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It was me! My peopre wirr come to rure this prace!
Himrar made me cry! |
BellaDonna Nyghtshade
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Posted - 2011.07.07 15:05:00 -
[3]
 Originally by: Alotta Baggage
It was me! My peopre wirr come to rure this prace!
It's FRIED RICE, you PLICK!
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
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Posted - 2011.07.07 15:06:00 -
[4]
Originally by: Alotta Baggage
It was me! My peopre wirr come to rure this prace!
I burst out laughing, and now I'm going to hell 
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Dasola
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.07 15:06:00 -
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in before first samurai corporation
* Revolution changes worlds *
CCP, players are watching, no empty promises. |
Taedrin
Gallente
Zero Percent Tax Haven
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Posted - 2011.07.07 15:32:00 -
[6]
Originally by: Dasola
in before first samurai corporation
Bringing a whole new meaning to e-bushido
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Originally by: Dr Fighter
"how do you know when youve had a repro accident"
Theres modules missing and morphite in your mineral pile.
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CCP Manifest
C C P
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Posted - 2011.07.07 15:36:00 -
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Hey guys, press release is here on the EVE site.
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CCP Manifest
Public Relations and Social Media|| Iniquitous Brute |
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CCP Manifest
C C P
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Posted - 2011.07.07 15:37:00 -
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This quote from Brendan (Nyphur) is too good not to put here... "While the language barrier between players from different parts of the world can limit social interaction, it turns out that everyone understands the language of smashing internet spaceships to bits with lasers."
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CCP Manifest
Public Relations and Social Media|| Iniquitous Brute |
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Sciencegeek deathdealer
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Posted - 2011.07.07 15:39:00 -
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Edited by: Sciencegeek deathdealer on 07/07/2011 15:41:02
Originally by: CCP Manifest
This quote from Brendan (Nyphur) is too good not to put here... "While the language barrier between players from different parts of the world can limit social interaction, it turns out that everyone understands the language of smashing internet spaceships to bits with lasers."
This is going in my bio.
EDIT: I actually thing this is very exciting, something to mix up the political landscape. It could be very good for EVE.
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2011.07.07 15:43:00 -
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Hey guys! What server do you play EVE on?
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Rasz Lin
Caldari
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.07.07 15:44:00 -
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mmm nothing says good pvp like influx of racist little bastards!
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Nizran L'Crit
Caldari
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2011.07.07 15:44:00 -
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LOL.....surprises me that I haven't seen any rage about this yet....CCP partnering with nexon? Nexon is THE paramount f2p/p2w company out there....I play a few of their games and each one, they really make it so you have to pay to have an even footing with other gamers.
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FastData
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Posted - 2011.07.07 15:48:00 -
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Edited by: FastData on 07/07/2011 15:48:47
So erm.. what does Nexon get out of this?
Quote:
NX is virtual currency used throughout all games serviced by Nexon America Inc. NX can be used to buy in-game items and to add new features. It's a great way to enhance your gaming experience.
Edit. Or does Nexon Japan work differently?
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Reeper 2435
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Posted - 2011.07.07 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: Nizran L'Crit
LOL.....surprises me that I haven't seen any rage about this yet....CCP partnering with nexon? Nexon is THE paramount f2p/p2w company out there....I play a few of their games and each one, they really make it so you have to pay to have an even footing with other gamers.
Stop flaming and practice your sushi making for our new masters!!! FASTER!!
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Iancasnim
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Posted - 2011.07.07 15:51:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Manifest
Hey guys, press release is here on the EVE site.
I'm really looking forward to the effect this has on EvE. Very interesting indeed.
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Jess Maine
Caldari
Blackwatch Highlanders
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Posted - 2011.07.07 15:55:00 -
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Yay, more micro-transactions to build upon from my other cash shop purchases. inb4goldenscorpion
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Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc.
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Posted - 2011.07.07 15:57:00 -
[17]
The waters, they are stirring 
Slade
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Frau JeanYus
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Posted - 2011.07.07 15:58:00 -
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Congratz CCP and Welcome Japan!
This is gonna be funz
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Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.07.07 15:59:00 -
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This seems like a much better way to increase revenue and improve the game than selling pixel shirts that cost more than real ones.
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |
Khavi Kitamatsu
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:00:00 -
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Japanese players will be coming to TQ? OK cool! But I have a question. Can TQ handle the number of new players that they might expect...oh say 50k+?
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Snow Pop
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:00:00 -
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NeXon
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Teala Te'Jir
Amarr
Mr. Benjamin Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
This seems like a much better way to increase revenue and improve the game than selling pixel shirts that cost more than real ones.
I have to totally agree with Malcanis on this. Why doesn't CCP just increase its markets not only into Japan, but how about India as well.
BTW Mal, love your "Malcanis Law" in your sig. LOL! So true. 
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Hugo Smith
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
Hey guys! What server do you play EVE on?
Im on EU Chrommagus horde side... wanna do some quests together?
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Vincent Athena
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:08:00 -
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I assume its always been available in Japan and what is new is a version in Japanese?
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Trattu
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:13:00 -
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There is other thread already discussed about NEXON things. There I've written some of my anxiety. But, CCP comes to this thread, so I'd like to repeat that again;
1) Are existing Japanese player, like me, forced to be change subs, from NEXON?
2) In Japanese online game news site, they says NEXON will have MT, along with monthly subs. Will that MT have non-vanity P2W type item?
I'd like to hear these, because, NEXON is too famous as account insecurity, which I don't want to give my personal information. Also their other titles are heaven of RMT and BOT players, what could endanger current EVE play. This is actually very big surprise, after merely week before, you talked in CSM, no P2W item, and contacted so famouse P2W MMO provider.
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Taedrin
Gallente
Zero Percent Tax Haven
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:17:00 -
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From what I've heard, the Japanese actually don't like cruel, harsh worlds like EVE Online. On the other hand, their group-oriented culture could help them to form strong corporations with tight social bonds which make them more resilient to failscades.
On yet another hand, their corporations they form might be more dependant upon trust which would make them more susceptible to spies and thieves.
It will be interesting to see if this has any effect on EVE, and if so - what that effect will be.
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Originally by: Dr Fighter
"how do you know when youve had a repro accident"
Theres modules missing and morphite in your mineral pile.
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The Antiquarian
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:18:00 -
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This is going to be amazing.
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IntegralHellsing
Gallente
Privateers Of Virtue
Vicious OuTLaW
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:21:00 -
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Edited by: IntegralHellsing on 07/07/2011 16:22:40
Knowing what kind of company Nexon is, I really hope CCP refrain from doing further business deals with Nexon. Localizing is ok, but anything further is a no no.
Nexon is well known for its extensive use of 'cash' system to force players to pay extra for 'special' items. These include avatar clothes that affect character stats, special items that have limited dates of use and yet powerful enough to affect game play, etc etc.
I hope this partnership with Nexon isn't so CCP can learn from that company on how to make people pay more for game play aka p2w.
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Mister Smithington
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: Nizran L'Crit
LOL.....surprises me that I haven't seen any rage about this yet....CCP partnering with nexon? Nexon is THE paramount f2p/p2w company out there....I play a few of their games and each one, they really make it so you have to pay to have an even footing with other gamers.
Well, I played vindictus, and I don't remember anything in their cash shop that was required to be competitive. It was all 10-dollar 30-day underwear. But then again there was no PvP in that game.
But yeah, Nexon is very much a microtransaction company.
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Taedrin
Gallente
Zero Percent Tax Haven
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: Trattu
There is other thread already discussed about NEXON things. There I've written some of my anxiety. But, CCP comes to this thread, so I'd like to repeat that again;
1) Are existing Japanese player, like me, forced to be change subs, from NEXON?
2) In Japanese online game news site, they says NEXON will have MT, along with monthly subs. Will that MT have non-vanity P2W type item?
I'd like to hear these, because, NEXON is too famous as account insecurity, which I don't want to give my personal information. Also their other titles are heaven of RMT and BOT players, what could endanger current EVE play. This is actually very big surprise, after merely week before, you talked in CSM, no P2W item, and contacted so famouse P2W MMO provider.
I highly doubt that CCP would give the Japanese players access to different MTs than the rest of their players, especially if they are going to all be playing in the same universe. If they did, the resulting rebellion would be 10 times as bad as it was before.
If I would guess, I would say that CCP's relation to NEXON will be the same as their relation to Valve/Steam.
Japanese players can go to NEXON to purchase EVE Online, and they will receive a client which is preconfigured to their localization. In return, NEXON will either get a portion of the subscriptions for players who sign up through them or a portion of the initial game purchase for those who purchase the game through them.
I highly doubt that NEXON will be responsible for any EVE Online account handling.
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Originally by: Dr Fighter
"how do you know when youve had a repro accident"
Theres modules missing and morphite in your mineral pile.
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Nizran L'Crit
Caldari
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:23:00 -
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"While CCP will continue to develop and manage the game, EVE Online will be added to the ever-expanding portfolio of titles available through NexonÆs portal site, utilizing NexonÆs billing system and supported by the companyÆs expertise in the areas of regional marketing and promotion."
WTF?! Nexon games are F2P and you pay RL money for better weapons and gear....pretty much everyone does this so to have a fighting chance you have to buy gear too....Combat Arms, Vindictus...omg lol, so CCP has backed down from our market and is introducing what they planned to do to us in Japan.
Pure tinfoilery, but I can almost bet you that they are going to implement P2W in Japan, see how well it takes and how much money they make and then, if they make enough, probably implement it here and current players be-damned.
I don't have a huge issue with P2W because we already have PLEX, but my concerns is just going to be that the amount of money one would have to throw at CCP is going to be greater because the standard of what you need to pay to keep a fighting chance is going to be more in ISK. I dunno we;'ll see.
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Elder Man
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:25:00 -
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This about sums it up.
Unlike EVE's Chinese release, the Japanese client will connect to the main Tranquility game server. Nexon will add the game to its portal website and use its own billing system for Japanese subscribers. As we've seen with EVE's sizeable Russian playerbase, it's likely that entire alliances and communities will build up within the game once it hits the shelves in Japan. While the language barrier between players from different parts of the world can limit social interaction, it turns out that everyone understands the language of smashing internet spaceships to bits with lasers. The PC release of EVE Online in Japan will appear later this year, and will be followed by a localised release of DUST 514 in 2012.
Elder Man |
Hungry Eyes
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:25:00 -
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this is gonna make CCP stinking rich. ive been to Japan, and im telling you the Japanese are huge gamers and roleplayers, and they will buy every vanity item there is.
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Taedrin
Gallente
Zero Percent Tax Haven
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:26:00 -
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Originally by: Nizran L'Crit
"While CCP will continue to develop and manage the game, EVE Online will be added to the ever-expanding portfolio of titles available through NexonÆs portal site, utilizing NexonÆs billing system and supported by the companyÆs expertise in the areas of regional marketing and promotion."
WTF?! Nexon games are F2P and you pay RL money for better weapons and gear....pretty much everyone does this so to have a fighting chance you have to buy gear too....Combat Arms, Vindictus...omg lol, so CCP has backed down from our market and is introducing what they planned to do to us in Japan.
Pure tinfoilery, but I can almost bet you that they are going to implement P2W in Japan, see how well it takes and how much money they make and then, if they make enough, probably implement it here and current players be-damned.
I don't have a huge issue with P2W because we already have PLEX, but my concerns is just going to be that the amount of money one would have to throw at CCP is going to be greater because the standard of what you need to pay to keep a fighting chance is going to be more in ISK. I dunno we;'ll see.
STOP. READ. COMPREHEND.
"CCP will continue to develop and manage the game"
Japanese players will only be able to buy the game via NEXON and pay their subscriptions through NEXON's billing system. NEXON will also cover Japanese marketing and promotion.
EVE Online is NOT becomming F2P. EVE Online's gamplay is NOT changing due to this business relation.
In fact, Japanese players will be able to bypass NEXON entirely and do business directly with CCP. The only thing is that CCP's websites will be English - not Japanese.
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Originally by: Dr Fighter
"how do you know when youve had a repro accident"
Theres modules missing and morphite in your mineral pile.
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Hungry Eyes
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:30:00 -
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CCP is going where the grass is greener. Incarna and vanity items will have a huge audience in Japan.
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Gwenywell Shumuku
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:35:00 -
[36]
@CCP
didn't we just get though a whole "better communication" debacle, and yet i see no statement from you explaining clearly WHAT this will bring to EVE, as Nexon has a reputation...
You will never learn, will you?
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Vincent Athena
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:38:00 -
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Edited by: Vincent Athena on 07/07/2011 16:38:22
You can be sure there will be one Eve item sold for cash by Nexon: Game Time Cards. This could lower the in-game PLEX cost.
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Black Dranzer
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:40:00 -
[38]
Kawaii bishie desu ne
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Hyperforce99
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:45:00 -
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So, are we going to see more regions because of this?
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Somewhere beyond happyness and sadness, I need to calculate what creates my own madness o/
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Steve Thomas
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:46:00 -
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meh
I found the coment about Selling T2 and T3 BPOs and mats in thoes articals with Aurum funny.(they got the mats mixed up for onething) I know its speculation on there part, but its basicaly what they expect the company to do with EVE online because thats how it works with them.
They also seem to be confused as to what implants do.
Get someone from CCP to go into more detail on that, from what Im seeing its cluless speculation from the media right now
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If your too paranoid to play EvE. . .
...then your not paranoid enough to play EvE
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jyppy
Caldari
Under Heavy Fire
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Manifest
This quote from Brendan (Nyphur) is too good not to put here... "While the language barrier between players from different parts of the world can limit social interaction, it turns out that everyone understands the language of smashing internet spaceships to bits with lasers."
I KNEW CCP favoured Amarr. Just you wait...and wait...and wait...'til my missiles hit you.
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Ingvar Angst
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:49:00 -
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I'm not sure this is such a good idea. They'll be at such a disadvantage over everyone else on Tranquility, and you know people will be striving to see what tears look like in Japanese... I think they'll be starting so far behind as a whole that they risk being easily discouraged.
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:56:00 -
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Nexon, eh?
Can I import her into EVE?
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Nizran L'Crit
Caldari
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:11:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Taedrin
Originally by: Nizran L'Crit
"While CCP will continue to develop and manage the game, EVE Online will be added to the ever-expanding portfolio of titles available through NexonÆs portal site, utilizing NexonÆs billing system and supported by the companyÆs expertise in the areas of regional marketing and promotion."
WTF?! Nexon games are F2P and you pay RL money for better weapons and gear....pretty much everyone does this so to have a fighting chance you have to buy gear too....Combat Arms, Vindictus...omg lol, so CCP has backed down from our market and is introducing what they planned to do to us in Japan.
Pure tinfoilery, but I can almost bet you that they are going to implement P2W in Japan, see how well it takes and how much money they make and then, if they make enough, probably implement it here and current players be-damned.
I don't have a huge issue with P2W because we already have PLEX, but my concerns is just going to be that the amount of money one would have to throw at CCP is going to be greater because the standard of what you need to pay to keep a fighting chance is going to be more in ISK. I dunno we;'ll see.
STOP. READ. COMPREHEND.
"CCP will continue to develop and manage the game"
Japanese players will only be able to buy the game via NEXON and pay their subscriptions through NEXON's billing system. NEXON will also cover Japanese marketing and promotion.
EVE Online is NOT becomming F2P. EVE Online's gamplay is NOT changing due to this business relation.
In fact, Japanese players will be able to bypass NEXON entirely and do business directly with CCP. The only thing is that CCP's websites will be English - not Japanese.
STOP. READ. COMPREHEND. CCP has already tried multiple times to implement stuff under the radar, nowhere in there does it say that the Japanese will be paying subscriptions, I also said and I quote "my concerns is just going to be that the amount of money one would have to throw at CCP is going to be greater because the standard of what you need to pay to keep a fighting chance is going to be more in ISK." Which has nothing to do with anything other than PLEX.
Sure I'm worried about CCP going a different route in another market and not letting us know, but my biggest concern is that the Japanese are huge gamers and will be buying up PLEX in droves which will drive the cost of in-game items up through the roof AND the standard of equipment necessary to be on equal terms will be far greater. Read my whole post before making stupid comments.
Kthxbai
I wanna be L337!!! |
dakin
Minmatar
Kymmer-yn-Edeirnion
BR0WNC0ATS
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:14:00 -
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This is not a great idea for two reasons. Downtime and patches.
I highly doubt you can convince more people to sign on to EVE when you have a half hour downtime during prime time hours. I know you said you might have DT licked eventually, so hopefully that is coming soon and this complaint might not matter much.
But DT combined with patch day doesn't leave warm fuzzies. Patch days usually take the entire evening in the Japan/Korea/Australia region so recommending EVE to these players is a rather difficult proposition.
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I Love Boobies
Amarr
All Hail Boobies
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:15:00 -
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I doubt anyone in CCP has actually played NEXON games. They wouldn't be partnering with them if they did. Then again, this is the "new" CCP where profit outshines quality.
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Nadine Le'Slut
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:23:00 -
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i get the feeling everybody's missing out on ccp only releasing a localized client for japan
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Illwill Bill
For a fistful of Veldspar
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:24:00 -
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So, how will this be done? PLEX through Nexon's web store? Or will they pay for T2 mods? 
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Gwenywell Shumuku
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: Nadine Le'****
i get the feeling everybody's missing out on ccp only releasing a localized client for japan
And whos fault is that? CCP KNOWS how we will react to this damn, i really don't know if they just dont care anymore or if incompetence is so widespread over there that there is just no hope.
Man, its been only 1 WEEK, and they **** up again in communications.
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Leucy Kerastase
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:38:00 -
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Hi, Taedrin
Originally by: Taedrin
In fact, Japanese players will be able to bypass NEXON entirely and do business directly with CCP. The only thing is that CCP's websites will be English - not Japanese.
"Can we bypass Nexon or not ?" is one of the major concerns of Japanese EVE players right now.
Do you have any link to the source of this information ? Thank you.
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Val'Dore
Word Bearers of Chaos
Word of Chaos Undivided
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: Hyperforce99
So, are we going to see more regions because of this?
No, CCP is going to open up the Jove Space, Jita will be replaced by a system there named T0-KY0.
~No matter what happens, somebody will find a way to take it too seriously.~
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Taedrin
Gallente
Zero Percent Tax Haven
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:53:00 -
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Originally by: Nizran L'Crit
Originally by: Taedrin
Originally by: Nizran L'Crit
"While CCP will continue to develop and manage the game, EVE Online will be added to the ever-expanding portfolio of titles available through NexonÆs portal site, utilizing NexonÆs billing system and supported by the companyÆs expertise in the areas of regional marketing and promotion."
WTF?! Nexon games are F2P and you pay RL money for better weapons and gear....pretty much everyone does this so to have a fighting chance you have to buy gear too....Combat Arms, Vindictus...omg lol, so CCP has backed down from our market and is introducing what they planned to do to us in Japan.
Pure tinfoilery, but I can almost bet you that they are going to implement P2W in Japan, see how well it takes and how much money they make and then, if they make enough, probably implement it here and current players be-damned.
I don't have a huge issue with P2W because we already have PLEX, but my concerns is just going to be that the amount of money one would have to throw at CCP is going to be greater because the standard of what you need to pay to keep a fighting chance is going to be more in ISK. I dunno we;'ll see.
STOP. READ. COMPREHEND.
"CCP will continue to develop and manage the game"
Japanese players will only be able to buy the game via NEXON and pay their subscriptions through NEXON's billing system. NEXON will also cover Japanese marketing and promotion.
EVE Online is NOT becomming F2P. EVE Online's gamplay is NOT changing due to this business relation.
In fact, Japanese players will be able to bypass NEXON entirely and do business directly with CCP. The only thing is that CCP's websites will be English - not Japanese.
STOP. READ. COMPREHEND. CCP has already tried multiple times to implement stuff under the radar, nowhere in there does it say that the Japanese will be paying subscriptions, I also said and I quote "my concerns is just going to be that the amount of money one would have to throw at CCP is going to be greater because the standard of what you need to pay to keep a fighting chance is going to be more in ISK." Which has nothing to do with anything other than PLEX.
Sure I'm worried about CCP going a different route in another market and not letting us know, but my biggest concern is that the Japanese are huge gamers and will be buying up PLEX in droves which will drive the cost of in-game items up through the roof AND the standard of equipment necessary to be on equal terms will be far greater. Read my whole post before making stupid comments.
Kthxbai
Ah, so you are worried about PLEX, not about MTs then? My bad, I thought you were suggesting that NEXON was going to introduce non-vanity microtransactions into EVE - which CCP just said they didn't have plans for.
Currently, the demand for PLEX is bounded. As players buy more PLEX, the supply of PLEX on the market increases, while the demand remains the same. Law of Supply and Demand states that the price of PLEX will thus FALL, making PLEX cheaper. No amount of PLEXing can increase the ISK supply - once the market is saturated, the amount of ISK transfered to RMTers becomes fixed.
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Originally by: Dr Fighter
"how do you know when youve had a repro accident"
Theres modules missing and morphite in your mineral pile.
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Starkiller Adams
Gallente
Interwebs Cooter Explosion
Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2011.07.07 18:04:00 -
[53]
Woot more bots more RMT more lag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please make some ****ing new content instead of fattening ur wallets
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gfldex
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Posted - 2011.07.07 18:07:00 -
[54]
If you player base doesn't behave, replace it. Clever move I have to say.
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Nizran L'Crit
Caldari
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2011.07.07 18:12:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Taedrin
Ah, so you are worried about PLEX, not about MTs then? My bad, I thought you were suggesting that NEXON was going to introduce non-vanity microtransactions into EVE - which CCP just said they didn't have plans for.
Currently, the demand for PLEX is bounded. As players buy more PLEX, the supply of PLEX on the market increases, while the demand remains the same. Law of Supply and Demand states that the price of PLEX will thus FALL, making PLEX cheaper. No amount of PLEXing can increase the ISK supply - once the market is saturated, the amount of ISK transfered to RMTers becomes fixed.
Except in the case that the Japanese are huge gamers and it's basically a professional sport for them. They will dominate the game in relatively short order and then will be paying for PLEX to get even more money with ISK in-game. Your thoughts are reverse of what I am thinking. Look at FFXI and the professionalism that they expected there, in short order PLEXes are going to be scarce while the cost of things will become very high. High cost modules + low supply of PLEX due to increase in purchases from professional gamers and alliances = a lot of us casuals are going to be screwed. ><
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Gallente
Zero Percent Tax Haven
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Posted - 2011.07.07 18:14:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Leucy Kerastase
Hi, Taedrin
Originally by: Taedrin
In fact, Japanese players will be able to bypass NEXON entirely and do business directly with CCP. The only thing is that CCP's websites will be English - not Japanese.
"Can we bypass Nexon or not ?" is one of the major concerns of Japanese EVE players right now.
Do you have any link to the source of this information ? Thank you.
I have to admit, I'm only going on common sense here. In order to make bypassing NEXON impossible, CCP would have to prevent IP addresses originating from Japan from accessing certain portions of their website. IIRC, CCP doesn't even do this to Chinese IP addresses who have their own server. The thought of CCP doing this to their Japanese customers, but not their Chinese customers is quite illogical.
Also, this would screw over their non-Japanese customers in Japan (such as those who work at the embassy, military bases, moved to Japan because of their work, or moved to Japan because their parent/guardian had to move to Japan for one reason or another).
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Originally by: Dr Fighter
"how do you know when youve had a repro accident"
Theres modules missing and morphite in your mineral pile.
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Jack Tronic
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Posted - 2011.07.07 18:27:00 -
[57]
Edited by: Jack Tronic on 07/07/2011 18:27:46
I cant wait for the tears!
I am already creating a spreadsheet to keep track of the number of japs griefed/can flipped into unsubscribing.
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Reilly Duvolle
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Posted - 2011.07.07 18:29:00 -
[58]
Many console gamers in japan I hear
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Barkaial Starfinder
Minmatar
The Kairos Syndicate
Transmission Lost
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Posted - 2011.07.07 18:30:00 -
[59]
A new Japanese client will rise, just like the German and Russian.
Also, there is a Japanese store that will sell game time.
WHY ARE PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT MT AND STUFF HERE?
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Kumq uat
Gallente
Guiding Hand Social Club
Dystopia Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.07 18:41:00 -
[60]
I am anticipating Japanese alliances in an epic battle with the Russians.
These guys HATE each other.
Dis gon be good.
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2011.07.07 18:42:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Jack Tronic
Edited by: Jack Tronic on 07/07/2011 18:27:46
I cant wait for the tears!
I am already creating a spreadsheet to keep track of the number of japs griefed/can flipped into unsubscribing.
Keep the blinders on, brother.
The Japanese will make the Russians look like kindergarten kids. You have no idea of the amount of American tears that will be spread on the forums if this comes to pass.
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Leucy Kerastase
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Posted - 2011.07.07 18:51:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Taedrin
Originally by: Leucy Kerastase
Hi, Taedrin
Originally by: Taedrin
In fact, Japanese players will be able to bypass NEXON entirely and do business directly with CCP. The only thing is that CCP's websites will be English - not Japanese.
"Can we bypass Nexon or not ?" is one of the major concerns of Japanese EVE players right now.
Do you have any link to the source of this information ? Thank you.
I have to admit, I'm only going on common sense here. In order to make bypassing NEXON impossible, CCP would have to prevent IP addresses originating from Japan from accessing certain portions of their website. IIRC, CCP doesn't even do this to Chinese IP addresses who have their own server. The thought of CCP doing this to their Japanese customers, but not their Chinese customers is quite illogical.
Also, this would screw over their non-Japanese customers in Japan (such as those who work at the embassy, military bases, moved to Japan because of their work, or moved to Japan because their parent/guardian had to move to Japan for one reason or another).
I see. Thanks Taedrin 
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Shova Kais
Caldari
Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
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Posted - 2011.07.07 19:12:00 -
[63]
What's the big deal? There's already quite a few Japanese players in-game. So they localize the client and get a few more, so what?
Jesus Christ, some people will whine and speculate about everything and anything these days. This just= potentially more players in EVE. Great. More people to shoot at. Nexon knows how to handle the Asian market. Let them do the PR stuff. Who cares?
Does the playerbase really need CCP to announce it to them personally before anyone else? It barely affects you besides the language that some newer players may know. What an entitlement complex some of you have.
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Okane Kudasai
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Posted - 2011.07.07 19:23:00 -
[64]
YES ... I WILL CONKA U ALL!
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Dalmont Delantee
Gallente
Shiloh Technologies
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Posted - 2011.07.07 19:45:00 -
[65]
If they convert it to the Koreans as well there will be a problem for Screegs, if they play like the games they play and the stories I heard, they are practically living bots!
Take comfort in knowing that its probably some pimply faced twit, or 40 year old virgin, who gleens everytime mommy offfers to take them to needle point lessons |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2011.07.07 19:52:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Dalmont Delantee
If they convert it to the Koreans as well there will be a problem for Screegs, if they play like the games they play and the stories I heard, they are practically living bots!
Funny that whenever I see a bot site link for a KR game, the site is always in English.
Perhaps you could pull your head out of your racist little ass and look at the world for a change.
Mr Epeen 
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2011.07.07 20:04:00 -
[67]
Good idea, localization is key.
But,
- How big of an influx are you expecting?
- Do you have the hardware ready to handle that influx?
- What if your estimates are crap (lets face it, you don't get these things right very often) and influx is quadruple of expected?
We going to have to suffer for weeks/months while you scramble to install new bling at the farm?
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Olleybear
Minmatar
I R' Carebear
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Posted - 2011.07.07 21:20:00 -
[68]
I'd just like to welcome any new Japanese players to the Eve community.
As the unofficial mascot of the Molden Heath region, I would like to invite you all to this wonderous, beautifull, and safe low security region of the Eve universe. We are all very friendly over here and ready to help you in your missions anytime you need us to. You need mining help? Just ask in local! We will come running.
I would also like to encourage you to buy plex, lots of plex, to convert into isk so you can buy the biggest ships as fast as you can. Dont worry that you have medium guns on that battleship you just bought because as the women always say, size doesnt matter, and that is also true in Eve.
The lowsec Molden Heath region welcomes you with open arms. We look forward to seeing you here!
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Kalle Demos
Amarr
Helix Protocol
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Posted - 2011.07.07 22:22:00 -
[69]
I dont get it :S, does this mean if I was in Japan right now I wouldnt be able to play EVE?
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari
Emminent Terraforming
O.G.-Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.07 22:28:00 -
[70]
wow I thought they already could get EVE in Japan since its a downloaded game.
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III ZiggyBang
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.07.07 22:31:00 -
[71]
I rikker pray de Wittar & EvE Online
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Kalle Demos
Amarr
Helix Protocol
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Posted - 2011.07.07 22:32:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker
wow I thought they already could get EVE in Japan since its a downloaded game.
Yeah this is what is confusing me too, I dont see the purpose of the partnership
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LETS POST ON CAOD GANG! |
Tali Ambraelle
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Posted - 2011.07.07 23:11:00 -
[73]
You're all assuming the Russians will let the Japanese GET to the point that they could be a power block lol....
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Ehdward
Caldari
Nex Exercitus
Raiden.
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Posted - 2011.07.07 23:16:00 -
[74]
The Japanese can join the powerblock... in my pants.
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Illuminaty
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Posted - 2011.07.07 23:17:00 -
[75]
While Japanese already play (kicked a Japanese corp out of a wormhole last week), it will be nice to see an attempt to do localized marketing to them. There is a big difference between some weird game centered around another language, and a game that reaches out to your demographic.
EVE is kinda empty when us poor west coast players stay up late.
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Shepard Book
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Posted - 2011.07.07 23:31:00 -
[76]
Edited by: Shepard Book on 07/07/2011 23:31:35
Originally by: CCP Manifest
This quote from Brendan (Nyphur) is too good not to put here... "While the language barrier between players from different parts of the world can limit social interaction, it turns out that everyone understands the language of smashing internet spaceships to bits with lasers."
Awww yeah, More targets is always good.
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Nakedandfearless
Thunderwaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.07.07 23:34:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Khavi Kitamatsu
Japanese players will be coming to TQ? OK cool! But I have a question. Can TQ handle the number of new players that they might expect...oh say 50k+?
This made me laugh! 0.0 battles reported to CCP in advance can barely handle it now and I'm being generous.
Japanese influence down the road for potential powerblock in 0.0 does sound good though.
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Uglavitch Nefrex
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.07.07 23:40:00 -
[78]
I say good luck to the Japanese they will soon see how CCP cannot release a patch that works and constantly **** up their own game and community.
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Renis Jade
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Posted - 2011.07.08 01:11:00 -
[79]
I for one welcome a larger player base, all welcome our technical, anime, and capitalist specialist of tomorrow!
Question tho. Does this mean CCP will add more garbage space ( Npc or Otherwise empty sov stomping ) and/or another blood line to game?
I'm all for making the game very large and difficult to navigate again by adding 10,000 systems and re-aligning stargates! Remember! Vast, Empty, Hostile and WTF did a corpse just hit the external camera, dammit dead people.. Sansha invasion hard held npc space of doom!?
Well there's always hoping but who knows =p
To tomorrow fellow pod pilots and the wonderful future it brings!
*tips glass in a forum of cheers!*
*crazy rant rant rant rant*
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Atreus Venom
Gallente
New Eden Hitmen
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Posted - 2011.07.08 01:14:00 -
[80]
well as long as they dont start trying to sell me WoW gold im fine
im promoting the I Was There Video (monocle version) check it out... and let me know if i should make the whole video monocleized and at the end ill even throw in a gold ship. I WAS THERE (MONOCLE VERSION) sorry for caps... its a new thing
º--Atreus--º
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Aveneo
SkyNet Technologies Inc.
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Posted - 2011.07.08 01:26:00 -
[81]
Wow! Maybe now I can finally find my cute japanese girlfriend
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Maverick2011
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2011.07.08 01:42:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Nizran L'Crit
LOL.....surprises me that I haven't seen any rage about this yet....CCP partnering with nexon? Nexon is THE paramount f2p/p2w company out there....I play a few of their games and each one, they really make it so you have to pay to have an even footing with other gamers.
Nexon is responsible for Atlantica Online (Strategy-Turn MMORPG) which is cash shop driven entirely. Bad news indeed. Atlantica community HATES them 10x more than any rage i've seen here.
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Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape
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Posted - 2011.07.08 01:47:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Kalle Demos
Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker
wow I thought they already could get EVE in Japan since its a downloaded game.
Yeah this is what is confusing me too, I dont see the purpose of the partnership
Japanese language support is huge for the average Japanese gamer. Only the most educated a/o wordly Japanese people are very comfortable with English. Plus, the official wiki will (probably) get Japanese support. Can you imagine trying to learn how to play this game entirely via Google Translate from Japanese documentation? Same thing in reverse.
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Enforcer guard
Space Marine Academy
Nulli Tertius
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Posted - 2011.07.08 02:36:00 -
[84]
So we will have engrish in EVE now?
Great!
はじめまして！！！
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Ai Mei
Starfish Operating Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.07.08 04:56:00 -
[85]
All I can say is this,
I already have 2 coprmates that live in japan that play eve online.
All this partnership is doing is just promoting eve in Japan to get a ton of more players.
More players means the following.
More income to ccp to hire more developers to work on their games, which means more content done faster.
more people to be scammed
more redshirts
more targets
more suckers
more people to stab in the back.
most likely more plexes on the market which means prices come down and then the rest of the world can play for free while they pay for our accounts.
also
more tears
more rage
more lulz.
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pichan
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Posted - 2011.07.08 06:06:00 -
[86]
Edited by: pichan on 08/07/2011 06:15:10
EDIT.. added in the Wiki if anyone interested in seeing it: Eve Japanese Wiki
What is new here really? Japanese language option has been on the test servers for a few year. At least 2 years ago, I was playing with it when I saw the option. The translation was not the BEST, but was not too bad. There are a few Japanese alliances on eve and has been for many years. Is there more to Nexus for this other than advertising Eve, keeping the client translation updated, and distributing DUST 514?? Easy to see that there has been a Japanese chat channel for years, although most I knew on it left.
Take a look at the Japanese EveWiki pages that the Japanese made... They are better than CCPs, because they found the bugs and added in workarounds.
Any publicity is good, but really this is just releasing the Japanese language version officially now with support. Unless I missed something, not much to look at here.
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MaiLina KaTar
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Posted - 2011.07.08 06:53:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Nyphur
"While the language barrier between players from different parts of the world can limit social interaction, it turns out that everyone understands the language of smashing internet spaceships to bits with lasers."
My name is Katar and I approve this message.
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Konrad Kane
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Posted - 2011.07.08 07:33:00 -
[88]
The Japanese clans on the PS3 MAG game are good fun to play against. It may make dust worth playing :) |
Lidia Prince
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.07.08 08:01:00 -
[89]
I say it's about damn time.
Now I will finally be able to hit on schoolgirls in my EVE. Al-all... all my dream came true~ |
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