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quigibow	Posted - 2011.07.22 01:31:00 - [61] Originally by: Haruki Tekitsu Its a game, no need for the poofter stuff. Simples you sir are a JACKA$$
Le Sabre Gallente Air Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2011.07.22 01:50:00 - [62] Originally by: Akita T Originally by: quigibow Originally by: Akita T Let's see... [...] Pseudo-orthodox christian Amarr ? You just know non-heterosexuality is not tolerated. [...] well unless they are clergy right? then its ok with all those alter boys... No, noooo... those are *catholic* christian with those "problems". The orthodox have different rules. No celibacy for the orthodox clergy, they're actually expected to get married before being "put into office" and also have as large of a family as they can manage. Also, its not what it appears to be, in fact its apparently the only way to 'tune' the choir, no tuning fork required. Proud participant in the great "Trade hub lock down" of 24th june 2011. We control OUR game CCP!!!
nahtoh Caldari Brotherhood of The Saltire EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2011.07.22 02:06:00 - [63] Edited by: nahtoh on 22/07/2011 02:12:54 Originally by: Kyo Haku Originally by: Jada Maroo I don't understand why every form of media has to acknowledge a certain loud, politically active 3-5% of the population. It's because we DO exist. Like I said, I don't expect every other character to love teh caulk. All I'm asking for is an honorable mention. If sexuality has no relevance to the story- IE: escaping from a shipwreck, it shouldn't be included. AT ALL. But if it's a club/bar scene, it's expected that the character will notice/be noticed. Why? Or to put it in words that at least one gay person I know uses "flamming queens annoy the crap out of me". Granted he got rafts of crap about it and a fair amount of that was from me... Nobody needs to take notice your sexual prefs (within reason before any buddy jumps in on this), hell we don't need to notice you exist. ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self
Raid'En	Posted - 2011.07.22 03:51:00 - [64] Edited by: Raid''En on 22/07/2011 03:53:14 Originally by: nahtoh Or to put it in words that at least one gay person I know uses "flamming queens annoy the crap out of me". not the same thing. he's asking for a little sign. not for some clichT gays it could be a guy on a bar checking girls and seeing a man looking him a bit too much for example. it's just 1-2 lines on the big story. and it's enough.
Ruze Ahkor'Murkon Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2011.07.22 03:57:00 - [65] I guess I'm just a little confused. I didn't need to have it expressly written in the lore to assume that homosexuals exist in such a large and diverse galaxy as what EvE is portrayed in. Sometimes I wonder if the call for such 'pandering' of either race, creed, sexuality or social status, even in fiction such as this, isn't more about a persons own fear of not being important that it truly is about equality. Posts by Ruze Ahkor'Murkon and Ruze
Alpheias Euphoria Released HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2011.07.22 04:11:00 - [66] Edited by: Alpheias on 22/07/2011 04:17:27 The LGBT debate has really turned into looking a little extra at the kid in class because he or she is special, wearing a special helmet, and making special gurgling noises through that special mouth of theirs. ♫ When your ship gets blown to bits ♫ And you lose your Faction fits \☻/ Don't worry ♪ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ Be Happy \☻/
Love hammer	Posted - 2011.07.22 04:12:00 - [67] So who is having sex exactly. I'm not seeing any sort of avatar interaction on the screen. Sure I've seen a couple of drakes bump into each other, (is that what you're talking about?) This game isn't straight, it isn't gay. It isn't islam, it isn't christian, it isn't jewish, it isn't republican, it isn't democrat, it isn't communist, it isn't fascist. It's an internet spaceship game. Stop trying to bend my game to your own personal and political interests. Find another soap box.
BeastlyRage The Imperial Fedaykin	Posted - 2011.07.22 04:20:00 - [68] PLZ NO GAY! OH GOD NO! Also I think this is the only time in the world I can LEGITIMATELY say OP IS A F*G
Alpheias Euphoria Released HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2011.07.22 04:25:00 - [69] Originally by: BeastlyRage PLZ NO GAY! OH GOD NO! Also I think this is the only time in the world I can LEGITIMATELY say OP IS A F*G Everything about you, your face, your name, is Gay. A song that explains everything to you. ♫ When your ship gets blown to bits ♫ And you lose your Faction fits \☻/ Don't worry ♪ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ Be Happy \☻/
BLACK-STAR	Posted - 2011.07.22 04:27:00 - [70] Originally by: BeastlyRage PLZ NO GAY! OH GOD NO! Also I think this is the only time in the world I can LEGITIMATELY say OP IS A F*G you look pretty gay perhaps in denial.

Storm X4	Posted - 2011.07.22 04:29:00 - [71] Originally by: Abrazzar EVE is teen rated. Sex does not exist. Eve is a online mmo, the teen rating goes out the window with the online experience as said in the rating. lol Ratings mean nothing on a MMO. If it makes money they will do it. They could even bump up the rating when walking in stations is social. Besides nobody under 18 who play's eve that I even know. And I been playing eve for years and years. WoW is teen rated but can be very suggestive with themes. I am talked to suggestively now and then around friends. I'm in my 20's, all my corp mates are in their 20's. The things that go on in the chat window makes this game rated "M". :P LMAO Local is always rated M too. Guess you been in a box or something or are anti social. Because this game is more mature then its rated for. Its a petty dark evil game too. Very dark for a teen rated game and for all of its market items such as drugs and beer and prostitutes and violence in the game with a lot of death and corpses in space... If you really think about it eve is a pretty mature game for a teen rated game. Rating doesn't mean nothing on a online game.
Utremi Fasolasi Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2011.07.22 04:48:00 - [72] Originally by: ovenproofjet Did you forget about... This is genius.
Inara 5	Posted - 2011.07.22 05:45:00 - [73] Uh, the 10 ton elephant in the room: ... Maybe LGBT was some kind of disorder and they "fixed" it?
Fullmetal Jackass	Posted - 2011.07.22 05:58:00 - [74] Originally by: Kyo Haku but I do ask for at least an acknowledgement of gay/lesbian/bi/trans people existing in the universe. ... I am curious if anyone else has noticed the same thing, or if there's a reason for it. Originally by: Jada Maroo I don't understand why every form of media has to acknowledge a certain loud, politically active 3-5% of the population. I don't care who they sleep with, and I don't even care if they get married, but continuously professing pride in sexuality is just as annoying as "latino pride" or "white pride." Originally by: Lady Spank Minorities are often loud because they are championing diversity against a great deal of prejudice. Try to be respectful of people's right to promote their lifestyles. Of course a lot of rabble rabble is also seen by extremists so it's understandable that most lifestyle pride is met with little tolerance. How about just live your lifestyle and quit trying to promote it to people that don't care either way? You wanna be proud of yourself? Fine whatever getting in someone's and/or trying to force something upon someone else is just going to **** people off.
Uuali	Posted - 2011.07.22 06:00:00 - [75] Edited by: Uuali on 22/07/2011 06:01:17 Why oh why do we need to stick gay stuff into a game or book? If gay et al is put in a story or game it therefore becomes gay fiction/cinema aimed at gay et al people. Nobody but gay et al people want to read about those kind of relationships. Straight people can't identify with it. Just because the norm, by nature, is male/female doesn't mean gay et al people are counted out. If you are turned off by hetro chic too bad. Maybe among capsuleers it is don't ask, don't tell? The black thing is a problem but hey, I think the only reason they made the Brutor black for real instead of just a vaguely hispanic skin tone is because CCP opened an office right here in the epicenter of black America ù Atlanta, Georgia (and especially the Stone Mountain area). It's the same reason they did the asian races when they opened an office in China.
Ryder Maximous	Posted - 2011.07.22 06:01:00 - [76] Please come to dantan so we may prey away the gay
Kerrio DiSantis	Posted - 2011.07.22 06:24:00 - [77] I hestitated to even read a thread with a title like this, and my first thought after reading the OP's posting was 'Oh no, not another one!'. My personal opinion is that homosexuality may exist or may not. I don't care if whatever they do is behind closed doors and not in front of me. If, let's say, a chronicle depicts a male Caldari CEO or some other higher-up being into men and facing repercussions, so be it. It may be the base for something worthwile to read, but, that's about the extent I'd want to read. Ingame, Gallente may be the most open minded, maybe followed by Minmatar. On the other hand, Caldari may frown upon such things just because they don't fit into their orderly worldview and Amarr may just detest everything concerning sexuality. That's as far as I want to know. But before delving into 'paths less traveled' concerning sexuality, so to speak, I think it would be interesting to explore how the life(-cycle) of a capsuleer influences such a basic biological function? Easiest thing to say would be that the pod goo contains some hormones which eradicate feeling such urges, but even that may be the cause for other problems. ... but somehow I get the feeling that it wouldn't be that easy. And on a side note, I just can't imagine a female capsuleer taking a few months/years of maternity leave... :)
Nimrod Nemesis Amarr Royal Amarr Institute	Posted - 2011.07.22 06:27:00 - [78] Originally by: Inara 5 Uh, the 10 ton elephant in the room: ... Maybe LGBT was some kind of disorder and they "fixed" it? Sup Revrend. Didn't expect to see you here.
Terminal Insanity Minmatar Convex Enterprises	Posted - 2011.07.22 07:12:00 - [79] I've read quite a few of the short stories posted on eveonline.com, and i've never seen any stories involving straight relations. Why should gay/lesbioan/etc people be 'represented' when straight people arnt? For all you know, every character in eve lore was gay. I don't think a videogame company should be expected to 'represent' the gay community. Its a videogame, and they're focusing on spaceships and guns, not frotting. Its not a matter of 'hiding the fact theres gay people out there" or worrying that we're going to turn our kids gay... its just the fact its a spaceship game and not a space opera/drama.
Heroltior Ghedonia	Posted - 2011.07.22 08:13:00 - [80] Edited by: Heroltior Ghedonia on 22/07/2011 08:14:03 Why does there have to be "sexuality" in this GAME. You are a space ship. Some look like p34ises and flying potatos... Other than that, who gives a ****?

James Moroci	Posted - 2011.07.22 08:18:00 - [81] Ghey people allready take fare to much space. i dont get why they want so much exposure.. i as hetero dont go around sayinng heyyyy look at me im all streight!!! and proud.. i find it doll and lame..
Gerald Taric	Posted - 2011.07.22 11:52:00 - [82] First of all .. we are playing a game. A game somehow based on gaining and loosing territorial and/or economy power/influence. Sexuality does not matter, if someone needs to blow up a hostile spaceship :). It (usually) doesn't matter either, if someone is trading goods against ISK. A lack of mention of gay people - in my humble optinion - is no discrimination, as long as is is not done with bad intention. And it has already been stated, that they obviously are some non-straight story NPCs. I'm 100% sure, that there are many gay people playing Eve. Round about 7% of mankind are gay. Where ever you go - the 7% are present. We can assume, that also in a fictional universe like EVE there are these 7%. It is not very likely, that every new embryo in the universe of EVE is scanned for possible genetic distinctiveness. If someone want's to play a charackter being homosexual, /he/she/it it free to do so. He is able to claim having a beloved boyfriend, and she is able to claim having a beloved girlfriend. "It" is also free to claim being sexless/undefined. All is good. The only thing remaining is the fact, that when creating your Avatar, a male avatar could neither paint his face like a woman nor could he wear a dress. But please keep three things in mind: Being gay does not imply the necessity of acting like the other gender. A biological man, feeling themselfs mentaly being a woman is a transgender ... an other case. When CCP creates a dress, they would have to test, if it also fit's to male avatars -> "double work to be done". And Unfortunatelly there are still countries with ultraconservative people, who would attack anything, which has something to to with homosexuality Therefore in my humble opionion it it okay and enough, that there are some story NPCs at last mentioning homosexuality in a (hopefully) not negative context.
Maverick2011 Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2011.07.22 13:00:00 - [83] Originally by: Kyo Haku Originally by: Jada Maroo I don't understand why every form of media has to acknowledge a certain loud, politically active 3-5% of the population. It's because we DO exist. Like I said, I don't expect every other character to love teh caulk. All I'm asking for is an honorable mention. If sexuality has no relevance to the story- IE: escaping from a shipwreck, it shouldn't be included. AT ALL. But if it's a club/bar scene, it's expected that the character will notice/be noticed. Something i dont understand about gays and leads me to believe its a disease: 1) the necessity of being noticed 2) the necessity of putting sexual comments/behavior above anything else 3) acing as the opposite sex If you are gay, its ok, go live your life. Do you see hetero players demanding sex content in game? I would like to know why gay people speech is about sex and only sex. Don't you guys think of anything else in this world besides someones rear?
Oceanic Symphony	Posted - 2011.07.22 13:08:00 - [84] Edited by: Oceanic Symphony on 22/07/2011 13:08:25 Originally by: Jada Maroo I don't understand why every form of media has to acknowledge a certain loud, politically active 3-5% of the population. Not every form of media, just those interested in presenting a credible version of reality. If you're happier denying the existence of inconvenient realities, and believing in whatever made-up nonsense you profess faith in, then you're welcome to it. I wonder - is there a market for The Bible RPG? Can't see it personally, but then I'm disturbingly sane.

CCP Navigator C C P C C P Alliance	Posted - 2011.07.22 14:02:00 - [85] Thread cleaned of inappropriate posts. Please discuss the subject without being insulting. Navigator Lead Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online

De'Veldrin Minmatar Norse'Storm Battle Group Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2011.07.22 14:07:00 - [86] Originally by: Abrazzar EVE is teen rated. Sex does not exist. Which just goes to show that teens are sorely misunderstand by the people who make ratings. --Vel Originally by: Blacksquirrel This is EVE. PVE can happen anywhere at anytime. Be prepared.
Niklas III	Posted - 2011.07.22 14:27:00 - [87] I demand my furry lifestyle be included in the eve lore.
Crasniya	Posted - 2011.07.22 14:29:00 - [88] Originally by: Jada Maroo Originally by: Kyo Haku but I do ask for at least an acknowledgement of gay/lesbian/bi/trans people existing in the universe. ... I am curious if anyone else has noticed the same thing, or if there's a reason for it. I don't understand why every form of media has to acknowledge a certain loud, politically active 3-5% of the population. I don't care who they sleep with, and I don't even care if they get married, but continuously professing pride in sexuality is just as annoying as "latino pride" or "white pride." This. I have many GBLT friends, my ex was bi. But to be frank, there's like 3.5% of society that is gay, yet due to whining if they're not a gay character in a show, there's like 30% of characters on TV are now gay. Characters that are NOT gay (Captain Jack Harkness, Torchwood), are suddenly being used expressly for gay scenes. I'm not homophobic, just feel that people take things way too far.
Nehmen Geld	Posted - 2011.07.22 14:47:00 - [89] There are no people of G/L/B/T persuasion in EVE. They all paid a few Aurum to buy a body that fits their sexual orientation. :)
Dr Fighter	Posted - 2011.07.22 14:56:00 - [90] wouldnt it make some sort of storyline sense if the jove were all gay?



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