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Kyo Haku
Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2011.07.21 20:11:00 -
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Something I've noticed in EVE is the distinct lack of sexuality other than 'straight', as far as official lore goes. I've read Empyrean Age and am reading the Burning Life currently; all characters have been either expressly or presumably straight. Now I don't really mind much if CCP chooses to have sexually ambiguous characters, or even all straight characters- but I do ask for at least an acknowledgement of gay/lesbian/bi/trans people existing in the universe. Someone with the same genitals as the character coming up and trying to flirt in a bar, or the character noticing someone of the same sex checking them out in the mall- or something.
The only mention of sexuality/gender identity I've seen is in the chronicle Faces, where the rich Caldari chick is disgusted by the thought that some people would want to get the face of the other gender.
Like I said, it's not a BIG deal to me; but I am curious if anyone else has noticed the same thing, or if there's a reason for it. -- "Far be it from me to stand in judgment. I prefer to sit." -Stephen Colbert |
Abrazzar
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Posted - 2011.07.21 20:14:00 -
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EVE is teen rated. Sex does not exist. --------
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Darth Khasei
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Posted - 2011.07.21 20:15:00 -
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Edited by: Darth Khasei on 21/07/2011 20:16:09 I can understand the question, but its probably as simple as CCP and its writers being fairly narrowminded on many issues. Kind of like making the only dark skinned characters in EVE a race of slaves and former slaves.
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Dalmont Delantee
Gallente Shiloh Technologies
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Posted - 2011.07.21 20:22:00 -
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Originally by: Darth Khasei Edited by: Darth Khasei on 21/07/2011 20:16:09 I can understand the question, but its probably as simple as CCP and its writers being fairly narrowminded on many issues. Kind of like making the only dark skinned characters in EVE a race of slaves and former slaves.
Bah, and making the slavers religious nutts white? Lets not go down this path of pointless "I feel done by because I'm not represented or I'm represented wrongly" Its not real life guys.
Lets complain that all of the people in Game of Thrones are white appart from the horse guys (in this first series) etc etc etc etc....
Why isn't there british in EVE? We're the greatest people after all! Bah, move on....
Take comfort in knowing that its probably some pimply faced twit, or 40 year old virgin, who gleens everytime mommy offfers to take them to needle point lessons |
stoicfaux
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.21 20:22:00 -
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Turns out homosexuality really was genetic after all and those genes were/are removed in utero via Eve's Uber-Cloning, Genetics, and/or Brain-Manipulation (implants) technology?
OTOH, if that were true, men in eve wouldn't be follicly challenged.
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baltec1
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Posted - 2011.07.21 20:24:00 -
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What about the fat man and his boys?
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Maddi5on
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Posted - 2011.07.21 20:26:00 -
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Kyo Haku
Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2011.07.21 20:33:00 -
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Originally by: Abrazzar EVE is teen rated. Sex does not exist.
I understand that, but CCP it seems doesn't care about the rating. There's several sex scenes in Empyrean age (two of them being pedophiliac and one being a ****), as well as allusions to sexual activity. Granted, they weren't all THAT graphic, but anyone over the age of 9 would know what was going on.
All I'm asking for is an offhand mention of Captain Joe Bob's husband, or Agent Jane Doe's girlfriend, or Senator Rich Moneybags noticing the strapping Minmatar lad in line for the shuttle to the next station. -- "Far be it from me to stand in judgment. I prefer to sit." -Stephen Colbert |
Kyo Haku
Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2011.07.21 20:36:00 -
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Originally by: baltec1 What about the fat man and his boys?
Karsooth was/is a pedophile, which is an entirely different matter.
-- "Far be it from me to stand in judgment. I prefer to sit." -Stephen Colbert |
Darth Khasei
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Posted - 2011.07.21 20:39:00 -
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Originally by: Dalmont Delantee
Originally by: Darth Khasei Edited by: Darth Khasei on 21/07/2011 20:16:09 I can understand the question, but its probably as simple as CCP and its writers being fairly narrowminded on many issues. Kind of like making the only dark skinned characters in EVE a race of slaves and former slaves.
Bah, and making the slavers religious nutts white? Lets not go down this path of pointless "I feel done by because I'm not represented or I'm represented wrongly" Its not real life guys.
Lets complain that all of the people in Game of Thrones are white appart from the horse guys (in this first series) etc etc etc etc....
Why isn't there british in EVE? We're the greatest people after all! Bah, move on....
You took the limited amount I said added "your" part and then reacted to "your" part. If you don't think being up there in Iceland gives them a limited and clearly stereotypical view of things as they represented it in the game, thats fine with me. But don't try to change me pointing out that "limited view" of things into that other nonsense you wrote, that fails bro.
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CCP Maiden Steel
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Posted - 2011.07.21 20:40:00 -
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There are a handful of recorded alternative-sexuality characters within EVE lore. Certain of the chronicles -- In the Electric Museum in particular -- make mention of this. It's been suggested that non-straight behaviour is strongly discouraged within the Caldari State, hence a notable proportion of pirate-faction Caldari NPCs with alternative sexualities; Gallente culture is said to be far more openminded to it.
If you're referring to a lack of characters used in fiction pieces who are anything other than straight... you're right, we don't use them very much, and this should be remedied
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Feligast
Minmatar GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.07.21 20:40:00 -
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It's okay to be Takei.
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Holy One
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.21 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Maiden Steel There are a handful of recorded alternative-sexuality characters within EVE lore. Certain of the chronicles -- In the Electric Museum in particular -- make mention of this. It's been suggested that non-straight behaviour is strongly discouraged within the Caldari State, hence a notable proportion of pirate-faction Caldari NPCs with alternative sexualities; Gallente culture is said to be far more openminded to it.
If you're referring to a lack of characters used in fiction pieces who are anything other than straight... you're right, we don't use them very much, and this should be remedied
Confirming the long-held view that all Gallenete males are chutney thieves then. Finally ..
It feels so good to be 'out'. BBQ makes me hungry for more... |
J Kunjeh
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.21 20:52:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Maiden Steel
If you're referring to a lack of characters used in fiction pieces who are anything other than straight... you're right, we don't use them very much, and this should be remedied
That would be a nice change, very nice indeed. As the OP said, it doesn't need to be in your face, just a part of the fabric of New Eden. ~Gnosis~ |
Yoa Loother
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Posted - 2011.07.21 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: Feligast It's okay to be Takei.
Oh my. _ .. darn |
Albetta
Gallente Construction Cabal Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2011.07.21 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: baltec1 What about the fat man and his boys?
Is Baron Harkonnen in empyrean age?
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Verone
Gallente Veto Corp
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Posted - 2011.07.21 21:04:00 -
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Edited by: Verone on 21/07/2011 21:05:18
There are a few characters in Eve's backstory with non-hetro sexual allignments, and many more could be but just haven't had that part of their lives written about yet.
For instance Kaikka Peunato, one of the most famous of the Gurista officers was dishonourably discharged from the Caldari Navy when it was revealed he liked the sausage.
As well as that, there's the former Chamberlain of the Amarr Empire who was found out to be a Blood Raider traitor, Chamberlain Karsoth, whom was revealed to have a thing for young slave boys in The Empyrean Age.
Coupled with these, when Korako Kosakami speaks of the late Jirai Laitainen in The Burning Life, it's given quite a few readers I've spoken to the hint that perhaps the relationship between them was more than business and friendship in its later years.
There's lots of examples of varying sexual tastes within the Gallente Federation and the Minmatar Republic, however it's typically considered unclean and unholy in the Amarr Empire, and is frowned upon in the Caldari State as unnatural and not in keeping with the State's will to grow and expand.
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Kevric
Lament of the Phoenix The Covenant.
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Posted - 2011.07.21 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: Kyo Haku Something I've noticed in EVE is the distinct lack of sexuality other than 'straight', as far as official lore goes. I've read Empyrean Age and am reading the Burning Life currently; all characters have been either expressly or presumably straight. Now I don't really mind much if CCP chooses to have sexually ambiguous characters, or even all straight characters- but I do ask for at least an acknowledgement of gay/lesbian/bi/trans people existing in the universe. Someone with the same genitals as the character coming up and trying to flirt in a bar, or the character noticing someone of the same sex checking them out in the mall- or something.
The only mention of sexuality/gender identity I've seen is in the chronicle Faces, where the rich Caldari chick is disgusted by the thought that some people would want to get the face of the other gender.
Like I said, it's not a BIG deal to me; but I am curious if anyone else has noticed the same thing, or if there's a reason for it.
Uh, have you not noticed the large amount of male players running around RP'ing as women?
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dexington
Caldari Baconoration
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Posted - 2011.07.21 21:09:00 -
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What does this all mean!?, can men can buy woman's clothing in the NeX store, is CCP working on a rainbow colored winter collection!?
I don't hope this kind of behavior is going to be tolerated in caldari and amarr space, sexual deviants are abominations and should be dealt with as such!
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Kyo Haku
Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2011.07.21 21:14:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Maiden Steel There are a handful of recorded alternative-sexuality characters within EVE lore. Certain of the chronicles -- In the Electric Museum in particular -- make mention of this. It's been suggested that non-straight behaviour is strongly discouraged within the Caldari State, hence a notable proportion of pirate-faction Caldari NPCs with alternative sexualities; Gallente culture is said to be far more openminded to it.
If you're referring to a lack of characters used in fiction pieces who are anything other than straight... you're right, we don't use them very much, and this should be remedied
Wow, didn't expect a mod response that fast/at all. :)
I can sorta understand the caldari not liking non-hetero relationships (no new members of society). I'd be curious so hear the Amarr and Minmatar thoughts on the matter.
That chronicle was interesting. Kinda sad too. :( -- "Far be it from me to stand in judgment. I prefer to sit." -Stephen Colbert |
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Kotami
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Posted - 2011.07.21 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Maiden Steel If you're referring to a lack of characters used in fiction pieces who are anything other than straight... you're right, we don't use them very much, and this should be remedied
Nice.
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Flamewave
Crimson Moon Society
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Posted - 2011.07.21 21:25:00 -
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Originally by: Yoa Loother
Originally by: Feligast It's okay to be Takei.
Oh my.
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Something Random
Gallente The Barrow Boys
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Posted - 2011.07.21 21:29:00 -
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Im straight.
Therfore you are straight.
Dont gay me boy !!!!
Lets continue....
Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
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Kyo Haku
Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2011.07.21 21:33:00 -
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Originally by: Kevric
Originally by: Kyo Haku Something I've noticed in EVE is the distinct lack of sexuality other than 'straight', as far as official lore goes. I've read Empyrean Age and am reading the Burning Life currently; all characters have been either expressly or presumably straight. Now I don't really mind much if CCP chooses to have sexually ambiguous characters, or even all straight characters- but I do ask for at least an acknowledgement of gay/lesbian/bi/trans people existing in the universe. Someone with the same genitals as the character coming up and trying to flirt in a bar, or the character noticing someone of the same sex checking them out in the mall- or something.
The only mention of sexuality/gender identity I've seen is in the chronicle Faces, where the rich Caldari chick is disgusted by the thought that some people would want to get the face of the other gender.
Like I said, it's not a BIG deal to me; but I am curious if anyone else has noticed the same thing, or if there's a reason for it.
Uh, have you not noticed the large amount of male players running around RP'ing as women?
I'm talking about things CCP has released. I'm gay and play my character as such- I can list several other players who have gay characters without even thinking about it. I know better than anyone the male/female player base ratio. -- "Far be it from me to stand in judgment. I prefer to sit." -Stephen Colbert |
ovenproofjet
Caldari Therapy.
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Posted - 2011.07.21 21:36:00 -
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Did you forget about...
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Jada Maroo
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Posted - 2011.07.21 21:38:00 -
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Originally by: Kyo Haku but I do ask for at least an acknowledgement of gay/lesbian/bi/trans people existing in the universe.
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I am curious if anyone else has noticed the same thing, or if there's a reason for it.
I don't understand why every form of media has to acknowledge a certain loud, politically active 3-5% of the population.
I don't care who they sleep with, and I don't even care if they get married, but continuously professing pride in sexuality is just as annoying as "latino pride" or "white pride."
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dexington
Caldari Baconoration
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Posted - 2011.07.21 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: Jada Maroo I don't care who they sleep with, and I don't even care if they get married, but continuously professing pride in sexuality is just as annoying as "latino pride" or "white pride."
+1
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Lady Spank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2011.07.21 21:52:00 -
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There needs to be more vegans in space. ~~~
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Lady Spank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2011.07.21 21:55:00 -
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Originally by: Jada Maroo
Originally by: Kyo Haku but I do ask for at least an acknowledgement of gay/lesbian/bi/trans people existing in the universe.
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I am curious if anyone else has noticed the same thing, or if there's a reason for it.
I don't understand why every form of media has to acknowledge a certain loud, politically active 3-5% of the population.
I don't care who they sleep with, and I don't even care if they get married, but continuously professing pride in sexuality is just as annoying as "latino pride" or "white pride."
Minorities are often loud because they are championing diversity against a great deal of prejudice. Try to be respectful of people's right to promote their lifestyles.
Of course a lot of rabble rabble is also seen by extremists so it's understandable that most lifestyle pride is met with little tolerance. ~~~
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Kyo Haku
Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2011.07.21 21:56:00 -
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Originally by: Jada Maroo
I don't understand why every form of media has to acknowledge a certain loud, politically active 3-5% of the population.
It's because we DO exist. Like I said, I don't expect every other character to love teh caulk. All I'm asking for is an honorable mention. If sexuality has no relevance to the story- IE: escaping from a shipwreck, it shouldn't be included. AT ALL. But if it's a club/bar scene, it's expected that the character will notice/be noticed. -- "Far be it from me to stand in judgment. I prefer to sit." -Stephen Colbert |
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