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Last Star Fighter
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Posted - 2011.08.06 04:56:00 -
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I see a lot of threads about boosting this and nerfing that. Has anyone thought to train for all four race ships and all associated weapon systems? By this I mean you have the respectable skills to back up the ship and the fitting. If you have then in what ship classes.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.08.06 05:21:00 -
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Almost everything. _
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Kitsune Tsuki
Amarr L'Opaline
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Posted - 2011.08.06 05:23:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T Almost everything.
Your skill list makes me feel like a teeny-tiny dill pickle, a cornichon, really.
ùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùùù Un fol enseigne bien un sage. ùRabelais
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Sergeant Spot
Galactic Geographic BookMark Surveying Inc.
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Posted - 2011.08.06 05:46:00 -
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Cross training for multiple races is 'eventually' very wise (and as more characters get older, more common).
However, in the short term, I recommend getting well trained on one race type/tank type.
Play nice while you butcher each other.
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Jacque Cruix
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Posted - 2011.08.06 05:58:00 -
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Get proficient in a current good race then cross train to one of the worst, since they are often the next to be on top. Might take a year or two to happen though.
And yeah, my main has all four races crosstrained Tech II BS and below, weapons and hulls. Did it over 4+ years though.
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JC Ferguson
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2011.08.06 05:59:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T Almost everything.
I can't tell if this was sarcasm or not. I sure hope it was (are you really bragging about 90M+ not-particularly-well distributed SP?)
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Alxea
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Posted - 2011.08.06 06:00:00 -
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Originally by: Last Star Fighter I see a lot of threads about boosting this and nerfing that. Has anyone thought to train for all four race ships and all associated weapon systems? By this I mean you have the respectable skills to back up the ship and the fitting. If you have then in what ship classes.
I can use all subcap ships of every race, I am nerf proofed. All T2 and T3 ships even, can use all T2 weapon systems for each race, on top of that I could fly a Nyx if I wanted by getting with a alliance. But I never was into blob warfare. Maybe some day.
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Aldan Romar
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.08.06 06:03:00 -
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I'm training all race's ships and weapon systems to at least mid-level.
Mostly to have a more interesting variety in combination of ships-weapon systems.
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Daenerys Fire Targaryen
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Posted - 2011.08.06 06:03:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T Almost everything.
OMG your wallet @_@'
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The Offerer
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.08.06 06:20:00 -
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Originally by: Daenerys Fire Targaryen
Originally by: Akita T Almost everything.
OMG your wallet @_@'
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.08.06 06:27:00 -
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Originally by: JC Ferguson
Originally by: Akita T Almost everything.
I can't tell if this was sarcasm or not. I sure hope it was (are you really bragging about 90M+ not-particularly-well distributed SP?)
The SP distribution is fairly consistent with my gameplay style : jack of almost all trades, master of nearly none.
Originally by: Daenerys Fire Targaryen OMG your wallet @_@'
That's only about half of my total NAV (rest is some stocked products and various other investments), and I'm not even considering the potential sales value of the character. And I'm probably still not even in the top 100 wealthy EVE individuals. _
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Dirk Magnum
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2011.08.06 06:28:00 -
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Originally by: JC Ferguson
Originally by: Akita T Almost everything.
I can't tell if this was sarcasm or not. I sure hope it was (are you really bragging about 90M+ not-particularly-well distributed SP?)
Is it no longer considered not-particularly-well distributed SP if someone has 75-90% of the relevant skills for every ship class at level 5?
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Ophelia Payne
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Posted - 2011.08.06 06:29:00 -
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Ethnic relations only at 3?
*Pictures Akita*
"Get me some coffee, boy!" 
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2011.08.06 06:31:00 -
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Flying all ships, using all Mining Lasers and Mining Drones have made me set 
/c
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.08.06 06:34:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 06/08/2011 06:36:25
Originally by: Ophelia Payne Ethnic relations only at 3?
Well, since my max corp size is 4300, 60% of that being 2580 individuals, while my corp has never even reached 100 members, I'd say training it higher would not be that much of a priority. Wouldn't you agree ? 
P.S. Besides, if I train it higher, I may not enjoy the disparaging Minmatar/Gallente punchline jokes anymore  _
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2011.08.06 06:48:00 -
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Quote: Are you nerf proof?
I'm completely specced in Gallente ships, drones, and hybrid weapons. They can't nerf me any more than they already have so thus... I am "nerf proof."
Neener neener.  _______________________
"Just because I seem like an idiot doesn't mean I am one." ~Unknown |

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.08.06 06:57:00 -
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Originally by: ShahFluffers
Quote: Are you nerf proof?
I'm completely specced in Gallente ships, drones, and hybrid weapons. They can't nerf me any more than they already have so thus... I am "nerf proof." Neener neener. 
Oh, it's not wise to taunt Murphy  _
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Kehro Urgus
Gallente Ab Obice Saevior Reborn Alliance
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Posted - 2011.08.06 07:13:00 -
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Originally by: ShahFluffers
Quote: Are you nerf proof?
I'm completely specced in Gallente ships, drones, and hybrid weapons. They can't nerf me any more than they already have so thus... I am "nerf proof."
Neener neener. 
I loled, I was going to post much the same thing. 
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Meiyang Lee
Gallente Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2011.08.06 07:30:00 -
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Much like Akita, I have my SP spread around a bit. Don't have a hope to match her ISK count though.
I can fly most T2 ships up to BC size, don't have perfect skills for them all, and at least T2 weaponry for them all.
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Ris Dnalor
Minmatar Fleet of Doom RaVeN Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.06 07:39:00 -
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Originally by: Last Star Fighter I see a lot of threads about boosting this and nerfing that. Has anyone thought to train for all four race ships and all associated weapon systems? By this I mean you have the respectable skills to back up the ship and the fitting. If you have then in what ship classes.
http://eveboard.com/pilot/Ris_Dnalor
The constant nerf / boost of eve that has been ongoing since it's inception is actually what drove me to generalize instead of specialize, so yea, I'm pretty much nerf proof now in that I can simply change to whatever flavor-of-the-day happens to be in style atm, but... it does take awhile...
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Jak Silverheart
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.08.06 07:40:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: ShahFluffers
Quote: Are you nerf proof?
I'm completely specced in Gallente ships, drones, and hybrid weapons. They can't nerf me any more than they already have so thus... I am "nerf proof." Neener neener. 
Oh, it's not wise to taunt Murphy 
I agree Murphy has a habit of showing up whenever you prepare for him just to **** you off.
Incarna, giving pilots a single room bachelor pad with a mirror and no beer since 6.21.2011 |

Franny
Mentis Seorsum
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Posted - 2011.08.06 07:48:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: ShahFluffers
Quote: Are you nerf proof?
I'm completely specced in Gallente ships, drones, and hybrid weapons. They can't nerf me any more than they already have so thus... I am "nerf proof." Neener neener. 
Oh, it's not wise to taunt Murphy 
ya, they might make drones shoot eachother, your own fleet, and anything else they feel like again
that said my alt is more nerf proof than Franny Fran with ~66m sp is Gallente spec'd almost top to bottom, carrier 5, BS 5, jdc 5... Dooms Day Op5(tho no titan book still!) my alt is ~64m sp is gallente, minm (tho still working on her gunnery) with a heavier indy background ---------------------------------------------------------- WTB Sig must include NOS Domi KILLING Ponies other details to be discussed, EVEmail me for details |

Vanakov Mek'lanavar
Furnulum pani nolo THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2011.08.06 07:59:00 -
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Edited by: Vanakov Mek''lanavar on 06/08/2011 08:00:36 I have this covered
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Planktal
Gallente Kenshao Industries Galactic Acqisition Specialists
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Posted - 2011.08.06 08:44:00 -
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I feel I'm 'nerf proof' just finished training to Black ops, can fly any sub-capital ship in the game (minus a few industrials, but who cares about them?)
My Guy . . Here, sanity... niiiice sanity, come to daddy... okay, that's a good sanity... *THWONK!* GOT the bastard. Everyone has a right to be stupid, just some people abuse the privilege. |

Ni'ark
Parnassius Corporation Revival Of The Talocan Empire
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Posted - 2011.08.06 08:56:00 -
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http://eveboard.com/pilot/Ris_Dnalor
The constant nerf / boost of eve that has been ongoing since it's inception is actually what drove me to generalize instead of specialize, so yea, I'm pretty much nerf proof now in that I can simply change to whatever flavor-of-the-day happens to be in style atm, but... it does take awhile...
m8 you need only citadel torps/cruise 5 to get every skill in launcher operation 5, hats off |

baltec1
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Posted - 2011.08.06 08:57:00 -
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I fly blaster ships so I think its safe to say I am nerf proof.
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Flynn Fetladral
Royal Order of Security Specialists
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Posted - 2011.08.06 09:16:00 -
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This is something I've been working towards for a while now, I'm almost there for everything up to BC across all four races with good skills (IV or V) across the board.
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Zeerover
Wolfsbrigade
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Posted - 2011.08.06 09:31:00 -
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All races subcapital ships at V. All subcap offensive systems with spec at IV!
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Brooks Puuntai
Minmatar Nomadic Asylum
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Posted - 2011.08.06 09:35:00 -
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Originally by: Daenerys Fire Targaryen
Originally by: Akita T Almost everything.
OMG your wallet @_@'
I actually expected Akita to have more liquid isk then that tbh.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.08.06 10:06:00 -
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Originally by: Brooks Puuntai I actually expected Akita to have more liquid isk then that tbh.
Liquid ISK makes no ISK. As such, one should try to minimize ISK in wallet while maximizing NAV. I'm actually not happy that I have so much liquid at all in the first place, but I'm too lazy to find good enough deals (decent gain, minimal effort) to invest more of it into. _
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2011.08.06 10:20:00 -
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Yes Im nerf proof. |

digitalwanderer
Gallente DF0 incorporated
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Posted - 2011.08.06 10:23:00 -
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I call and raise:
http://eveboard.com/pilot/digitalwanderer
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Earl Comstock
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2011.08.06 10:32:00 -
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I fly Caldari, so of course I am nerf proof. They all benefit me somehow.  |

Kunming
Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E
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Posted - 2011.08.06 10:41:00 -
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Pretty much.. there are some holes here and there though.
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Tippia
Caldari Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.08.06 10:53:00 -
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Unless they suddenly decide to nerf everything below battleships and/or make ABC mining the only occupation in EVEà
àyes. Nerf-proof like a could of foam-dissolving acid. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡ you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2011.08.06 13:02:00 -
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Yes thank you.
Originally by: CCP Zulu Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience.
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Devil's Call
Caldari Malicious Destruction War Against the Manifest
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Posted - 2011.08.06 13:49:00 -
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Edited by: Devil''s Call on 06/08/2011 13:49:41 Yep, but flying 'nerfed' ships and still blowing people up is more rewarding=P. And after a certain amount of SP you're kind of forced to become nerf proof. (Say 100m SP in combat) -----------------------------------------------
ôAll fixed set patterns are incapable of adaptability or pliability. The truth is outside of all fixed patterns.ö |

Gronsak
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.08.06 14:10:00 -
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Im not nerf proof. Only got 126m SP and havent trained hulks =(
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Lady Spank
Amarr In Praise Of Shadows
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Posted - 2011.08.06 15:51:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T Liquid ISK makes no ISK. As such, one should try to minimize ISK in wallet while maximizing NAV. I'm actually not happy that I have so much liquid at all in the first place, but I'm too lazy to find good enough deals (decent gain, minimal effort) to invest more of it into.
I can assist you in these endeavours, my badness at PVP needs a sugardaddy 
Also: I got's frigates skillz ~~~
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Tippia
Caldari Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.08.06 15:59:00 -
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Edited by: Tippia on 06/08/2011 15:59:22
Originally by: Gronsak Im not nerf proof. Only got 126m SP and havent trained hulks =(
Omgz noob! You're doomed!
Also, Gr÷nsak? Really?  ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡ you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
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Bane Necran
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.08.06 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T Almost everything.
Surprised to see you trained for all races battleships, and even dreads, but not for any T2 Large Turrets.
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Grimpak
Gallente The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.08.06 16:29:00 -
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Still a long way to nerf-proofing ---
Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
ain't that right. |

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.08.06 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: Bane Necran
Originally by: Akita T Almost everything.
Surprised to see you trained for all races battleships, and even dreads, but not for any T2 Large Turrets.
Remaining two BSs to L5 and all large gun specs are coming SoonÖ  If I ever need any of those in a hurry, got more than enough stored SP (5.7 mil - no typo) to rush-train anything. _
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big miker
Minmatar Red Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.06 17:24:00 -
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Oh hell yeah 
pilot: big miker
Flying almost all subcapital ships ftw \o/ only need lvl 1 L railgun spec and I can use all t2 turrets!
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Valei Khurelem
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Posted - 2011.08.06 17:27:00 -
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I admit, at times I do think If I'm going to combat I'll train minmatar or something silly like that, but then again I like the idea of factions and races, it makes you feel unique being specialised in Amarr ships or sticking with something.
What I want is to see more faction ships or customised paint jobs or even the corporate logo's people have wanted for ages.
We need more depth in EVE not ****ed up balance adjustments and spreadsheets to look at.
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IIIAsharakIII
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.08.06 17:32:00 -
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Edited by: IIIAsharakIII on 06/08/2011 17:32:56 Edited by: IIIAsharakIII on 06/08/2011 17:32:09 I'm so ancient I'm dev proof.
http://eveboard.com/pilot/IIIAsharakIII
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Muad 'dib
Caldari The Imperial Fedaykin
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Posted - 2011.08.06 18:04:00 -
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i like level 5s
http://eveboard.com/pilot/Muad_%27dib
Meep Meep!
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Reaver Glitterstim
Legio Geminatus
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Posted - 2011.08.06 18:20:00 -
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I never train something to 5 without training its partner skills to 4; I never train anything to 4 without training its partner skills to 3.
By the time I can fly one race's capital ships, I'll be able to fly all races' tech 2 ships. By the time I can fly one race's titan, I'll be able to fly all races' capital ships.
Cause that's how I roll. --
Thousand Papercuts Project |

Drykor
Minmatar Aperture Harmonics K162
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Posted - 2011.08.06 18:46:00 -
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Yup, pretty nerf-proof --- Drykor - AHARM |

digitalwanderer
Gallente DF0 incorporated
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Posted - 2011.08.06 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: IIIAsharakIII Edited by: IIIAsharakIII on 06/08/2011 17:32:56 Edited by: IIIAsharakIII on 06/08/2011 17:32:09 I'm so ancient I'm dev proof.
http://eveboard.com/pilot/IIIAsharakIII
Heh, dev proof are pilots who started playing in 2003 when the game was launched for the very first time, and both persistant and dumb enough to keep on playing until this very day non stop....
I'll have all ships maxed out by march~april of next year, and that includes all dreads, carriers and titans to lvl 5, but i'll be still dumb enough to keep playing if for nothing else, hitting the 200 million skill point mark wich i will be very close to make it happen by late next year...
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Izziee
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Posted - 2011.08.06 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: Meiyang Lee Edited by: Meiyang Lee on 06/08/2011 07:39:40 Much like Akita, I have my SP spread around a bit. Don't have a hope to match her ISK count though.
I can fly most T2 ships up to BC size, don't have perfect skills for them all though just mostly, and at least T2 weaponry for them all.
You took your name from the hot asian on brainiacks?
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Devil's Call
Caldari Malicious Destruction War Against the Manifest
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Posted - 2011.08.06 22:43:00 -
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Originally by: Izziee You took your name from the hot asian on brainiacks?
I was wondering the same=D. -----------------------------------------------
ôAll fixed set patterns are incapable of adaptability or pliability. The truth is outside of all fixed patterns.ö |

Ehranavaar
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.08.06 23:24:00 -
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not quite entirely nerf proof.
i still cannot fly any of the titans but everything else is available to me.
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Large Collidable Object
morons.
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Posted - 2011.08.07 00:29:00 -
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I'm nerf proof - I have 65k SP, so no matter what they nerf, I can't fly it anyway.
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Aus Mote
Gallente Project Sinkhole Command
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Posted - 2011.08.07 00:45:00 -
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Just started cross-training into Minmatar and Caldari, after maxing several of the Gallente skills. I'm not bothering with Amarr yet though; I don't like their ships (aesthetically) as much as the other three races.  -----
"It also means "Honest thought" in Estonian (Aus M)te)" |

Myxx
Atropos Group
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Posted - 2011.08.07 02:32:00 -
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Yes. Not totally, and theres a good few things left, but getting there steadily. Subcap wise, at least. --
Originally by: CCP Explorer (and if you guys would also stop using Drakes it would be really appreciated, kthxbye).
Originally by: Tom Gerard
Then again... I am a moron.
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Kumq uat
Gallente Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance
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Posted - 2011.08.07 02:58:00 -
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Edited by: Kumq uat on 07/08/2011 03:06:26 I too am getting there and am also a month from hitting 100 mil sp
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Meiyang Lee
Gallente Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2011.08.07 07:49:00 -
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Edited by: Meiyang Lee on 07/08/2011 07:48:50
Originally by: Izziee
You took your name from the hot asian on brainiacks?
Perhaps, not 100% sure anymore, but it seems likely.
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Vice Admiral Spreadsheet
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.08.07 07:53:00 -
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The vast majority of my skills are for Minmatar ships and weapons, and since CCP only seem to buff them continuously, I'd say I'm pretty safe. |

BLACK-STAR
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Posted - 2011.08.07 08:00:00 -
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Akita.... you internet space jew
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Carinae
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2011.08.07 10:30:00 -
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Edited by: Carinae on 07/08/2011 10:35:50 I am pretty much PvP specced for Minmitar, concentrated skills in gunnery, spaceship command and leadership. Eve Board Linky
So long as Minmatar are not nerfed too much, I should be fine
Fighting for the freedom of all held in slavery Warrior of the Ushra'Khan Death to slavery |

Laechyd Eldgorn
Caldari draketrain
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Posted - 2011.08.07 11:17:00 -
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TRUTH IS THERE IS NO OTHER WAY THAN CROSSTRAIN ALL RACES AFTER CERTAIN POINT UNLESS YOU TRAIN FOR TITAN WHICH IS a PITY.
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I wish there was more options to train for high sp characters. (thinking pvp ships now heh)
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Marchocias
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Posted - 2011.08.07 11:48:00 -
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I'm well on my way! I've only really got Gallente left to do.
I recommend anyone starting out to train Minmatar, as you end up crosstraining a lot of stuff that the some other races rely on: drones and missiles, and you need both shield and armour tanks. ---- Will 2011-06-24 go down as the day CCP stood still, or the day the dream died? |

Ineka
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Posted - 2011.08.07 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: baltec1 I fly blaster ships so I think its safe to say I am nerf proof.

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Dead3y3
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Posted - 2011.08.07 11:57:00 -
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Suppose I'm nerf proof to a degree...minus t3. Using a different character for capital ships. Not too shabby for a late 2007 character imo.
http://eveboard.com/pilot/Dead3y3
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