Originally by: Cynoska McNamara

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In my system 3 SB stay cloacked 23/7.. 1h (randomly) a day they attack ships they can destroy easly.
The rest of the time pirates are using the main account to play elsewhere.
AFK Cloaker harmless? Hypocrisy and Lies

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Originally by: Tokyo Rose

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Ok lets spell it out for you in simple easy to understand terms.

If your afk cloaker turns out to be an actual hostile threat you bait him with easy kills that do nothing to your bottom line past a few losses no one cars about on the corp killboard.

Once he is feeling safe you pull the trigger on the trap.

How is this so hard to understand?

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Originally by: Nicolo da'Vicenza

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Edited by: Nicolo da''Vicenza on 19/08/2011 10:02:09

Originally by: Tokyo Rose

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Ok lets spell it out for you in simple easy to understand terms.

If your afk cloaker turns out to be an actual hostile threat you bait him with easy kills that do nothing to your bottom line past a few losses no one cars about on the corp killboard.

Once he is feeling safe you pull the trigger on the trap.

How is this so hard to understand?

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Here's the flaws in that scheme.

There's no real "trap" that counters say a covert cyno hot drop other then having a standing fleet of your own. Having a standing fleet of several people waiting idly for one person who might be 5-6 hours before he gets on the keyboard (if at all that day) is absurd and impractical.

But let's say I get him, I've fed him several BS's to do it and used a vague "trap" that I spent like 10 hours per day over the course of several days in preparation to spring on this one guy, ignoring everything else happening in the alliance to do this, but it succeeded and he's gone. He shows up half an hour later in the exact same cheap ship cloaked up and AFK again now aware of this trap, whatever it is. Now what?

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Originally by: Nicolo da'Vicenza

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Here's the flaws in that scheme.

There's no real "trap" that counters say a covert cyno hot drop other then having a standing fleet of your own. Having a standing fleet of several people waiting idly for one person who might be 5-6 hours before he gets on the keyboard (if at all that day) is absurd and impractical.

But let's say I get him, I've fed him several BS's to do it and used a vague "trap" that I spent like 10 hours per day over the course of several days in preparation to spring on this one guy, ignoring everything else happening in the alliance to do this, but it succeeded and he's gone. He shows up half an hour later in the exact same cheap ship cloaked up and AFK again now aware of this trap, whatever it is. Now what?

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Originally by: Nicolo da'Vicenza

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Edited by: Nicolo da''Vicenza on 19/08/2011 10:02:09

Originally by: Tokyo Rose

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Ok lets spell it out for you in simple easy to understand terms.

If your afk cloaker turns out to be an actual hostile threat you bait him with easy kills that do nothing to your bottom line past a few losses no one cars about on the corp killboard.

Once he is feeling safe you pull the trigger on the trap.

How is this so hard to understand?

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Here's the flaws in that scheme.

There's no real "trap" that counters say a covert cyno hot drop other then having a standing fleet of your own. Having a standing fleet of several people waiting idly for one person who might be 5-6 hours before he gets on the keyboard (if at all that day) is absurd and impractical.

But let's say I get him, I've fed him several BS's to do it and used a vague "trap" that I spent like 10 hours per day over the course of several days in preparation to spring on this one guy, ignoring everything else happening in the alliance to do this, but it succeeded and he's gone. He shows up half an hour later in the exact same cheap ship cloaked up and AFK again now aware of this trap, whatever it is. Now what?

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Originally by: Jemima Puddle****

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Defending your own territory is too hard. Being expected to fight for it is unreasonable. Much better to ask CCP to come and take the bad people away.

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Originally by: Signal11th

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I know how annoying this can be but I never really found it that much of a hardship. It was one of the many prices I paid for living in 0.0.
I just got on with it to be honest. It was something I expected to happen and whne it did I made alternative ways to make money.

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Originally by: Nicolo da'Vicenza

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Originally by: Signal11th

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I know how annoying this can be but I never really found it that much of a hardship. It was one of the many prices I paid for living in 0.0.
I just got on with it to be honest. It was something I expected to happen and whne it did I made alternative ways to make money.

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Yeah, whole swarms of dedicated AFK cloakers like Noir. and DNS would blanket regions during the Catch War. You kind of have to find alternative ways of making ISK (actually I just ratted in unclaimed systems, but whatever). But just because I can deal with it doesn't mean I have to like it.

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Originally by: Tokyo Rose

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If your cheap insured ships are getting killed by a no longer afk cloaking hostile then it seems to me forming a standby fleet to pwn him or whatever he cynos in has an excellent chance to get some action.

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Originally by: Tokyo Rose

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So someone was more dedicated than you?

Sorry mate but thats not an excuse to petition ccp to change core game mechanics.

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Originally by: Nicolo da'Vicenza

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So you're sitting there cloaked next to a bait ship in an interdictor for one, two, four, etc hours hoping one pilot will uncloak. This is unreasonable. Expecting several others to do the same in case of a cyno is impossible.

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Originally by: Jemima Puddle****

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Feel free to leave 0.0 if you are not prepared to make any effort to secure your systems.

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Originally by: Nicolo da'Vicenza

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Originally by: Jemima Puddle****

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Feel free to leave 0.0 if you are not prepared to make any effort to secure your systems.

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0/10

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Originally by: Jemima Puddle****

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Originally by: Nicolo da'Vicenza

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Originally by: Jemima Puddle****

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Feel free to leave 0.0 if you are not prepared to make any effort to secure your systems.

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0/10

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I assume that is a rating of how willing you are to try and take responsibility for securing your systems because it would match with what you are saying. If you are implying I am trolling then it may surprise you to realise that I simply disagree with your inability to accept responsibility or acknowledge 0.0 involves risk.

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