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wayz
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Posted - 2005.03.06 12:13:00 -
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 Originally by: Mira Spellholde
Well, the fire is bieng fueled by air escaping from your ship (apperently), but it shouldnt be that bloody huge.
disagree with you completely, the sheer amount of air escaping from your ship, (given that space is a vaccum hence air would be coming out FAST) would pretty much create an inferno!
I do however think that if you receive that level of damage on your ship you should start losing ship health automaticaly at a low rate (fire damage)or maybe at a rate were even using a armour/structural repairer jsut balances you out until you dock or a mate comes along to help you repair.
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Jakk Graiseach
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Posted - 2005.03.06 12:23:00 -
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Originally by: Beringe
Hehe, I've started to see a certain pattern with threads like this.
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Hehe, sorry for being off-topic. It's just that these thread happen a lot.
*chuckles* Stereotypes, but unfortunately it's pretty accurate here... 
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Hastrabull
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Posted - 2005.03.06 12:33:00 -
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/me fits into pattern:
Cmon, stop this, its only a game! 
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Beringe
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Posted - 2005.03.07 06:16:00 -
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Edited by: Beringe on 07/03/2005 06:17:34
Originally by: Jakk Graiseach
*chuckles* Stereotypes, but unfortunately it's pretty accurate here...
Yeah, I didn't mean to sound negative. I just thought it was funny.
Some more sterotypes:
Silly rebutter: Derails the thread by saying something completely off-topic, often aimed at a certain poster he knows. Might post something nonsensical just to tick someone off.
Alliance stalker: Is in the opposite alliance/corp to the original poster and will post in all his threads and flame him, no matter the topic.
Know-it-all: Considers himself an expert on said RL science issue and will scoff at random individual's pseudo-science ideas, even if they were light-hearted. Probably needs a humor implant.
Sci-fi fan: Prefers some esoteric brand of pseudo-science that doesn't really fit with the EVE world. Will try to argue a shift towards the brand of pseudo-science that he likes.
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ErrorS
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Posted - 2005.03.07 07:43:00 -
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you guys think the flames in this game are bad you should see how they looked in Earth and Beyond. My progen warrior's ship would get damaged and I'd be shooting flames out from all over the place. You would swear that the ship would burn up in seconds looking that way.
and i doubt air would rush out into space so quick that a fire couldn't maintain itself.. even though thinking it through makes me think it would, but I'm no expert on fuel and it's effectiveness. Some fuels might burn even at the speeds space would pull it from a ship. I would think it would look more like the flame out of a blowtorch though and not the puffy slow looking fire we got now.
... ok, im giving myself a headache.
my list of eveisms
1. Ship speed.. ok, nothing can be done about it, fine. I still think it's funny though.
2. The way ships are talked about. The moa is something only people with good standing towards the caldary navy can get, yet they're as common as frigates.
3. The way new ships and items are just introduced. No explanation for the 'new' battleships? :P mining ships? POS? it's like they've always been here.. but they havent. I would love for CCP to add backstory for everything they add to the game. "Races allow the sale of player owned structures". Just make some sense of the game
4. Where are pod's warpdrives? How come some frigates are smaller then shuttles? how am I able to dock my raven into these stations that I KNOW my ship can't fit in?
5. How can I fit this HUGE veld roid with 200k volume into this tiny cargo container? I'ts funny when you think about it.. sitting next to a veld roid 100x's bigger then your ship and you somehow fit the whole thing into this little cargo container
6. Sorta like 5. But how was I able to fit POS equip in my badger mk2? I mean, I could fit 3 badgers inside a silo but somehow my badger was able to hold 3 of them, haha. Same with ship maintanance array, how am I able to fit 10 battleships inside of it?
7. A Mega can hit a Scorpion moving at 120m/s at 20km just fine with it's guns. A mega can't hit a Moa moving at 180m/s, nearly as big as a Scorpion, at 20km. Why? Cruisers are as slow, nearly as bad when it comes to agility and almost as big as a battleship (caldari)... balance is good, but I just think it's funny
8. Coercer sitting 40m away from a barren asteroid the size of 5 stations stacked on top of each other and I miss every hit. A cormorant can sit inside a battleship, INSIDE, and miss every single shot firing at it.
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Ruffio Sepico
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Posted - 2005.03.07 08:05:00 -
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Originally by: ErrorS
5. How can I fit this HUGE veld roid with 200k volume into this tiny cargo container? I'ts funny when you think about it.. sitting next to a veld roid 100x's bigger then your ship and you somehow fit the whole thing into this little cargo container
As with real life mining, what you take out isn't 100% pure ore. Have to assume a lot of the roid end up as refuse in space (we just don't see it float around).
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ErrorS
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Posted - 2005.03.07 08:12:00 -
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ok, explain why that tiny can holds 3x's the amount my badger2 holds.
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ArcticFox
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Posted - 2005.03.07 08:33:00 -
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Originally by: ErrorS
3. The way new ships and items are just introduced. No explanation for the 'new' battleships? :P mining ships? POS? it's like they've always been here.. but they havent. I would love for CCP to add backstory for everything they add to the game. "Races allow the sale of player owned structures". Just make some sense of the game
Actually, they do put up backstory, which I suppose you didn't notice. In the weeks before Exodus deployment there were tons of news stories about ORE negociating with empires that didn't want them to release starbases to the open market, and how they were planning to sell mining barges on the open market. There were also news items about CONCORD planning to recognize alliances as sovreign nations, and so on.
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Lorth
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Posted - 2005.03.07 09:02:00 -
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A BS travelles at about 500km/hour. Which is slower then the speed of many objects in earth atmosphere.
In relation, how come we have ships that go faster then light yet can not propel them selves to any sort of reasonable speed.
Ya the sound thing as well.
When a ship explodes it should send massive ammounts of particals through space and termendous velocitys. Why is my ship never hit?
How come our guns need to track when orbiting an object?
Why do weapons have a fall off? Whats slowing them down past a given distance?
We have the technology to build space stations, jump gates, go faster then light. Yet our computers still havn't figured out how to 'lead' a target consitantly?
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Patreze
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Posted - 2005.03.07 11:11:00 -
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About that flames around your ship... maybe it is like with sound - just a computer overlay on your ship image to indicate that something is wrong.
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2005.03.07 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: Santiac
about the hull getting ripped apart if it's been breached and you warp. Wouldn't that require outer friction? (gas, debri, so forth).
As for with the doppler effect in warp, isn't that correct? Think i recall getting redish colouring from the point i came from, and blue colouring around the spot i was warping to.
Anywho, never really cared much for realism in games, but it's always a nice pass-time activity ;)
Well the doppler effect is a little bit silly. I mean you are travelling plus light speed so by the time you see something you've already past it. Then again you're probably travelling in subspace or something silly as that so no rules we know today have to apply. Anyway I've never really paid any attention to all those pseudo science stuff, to me saying it's magic is just as plausable.
Now where do I fit in this thread... think I'll go with the derailment guy. Well I'm sure glad that the good people of the future use the metric system instead of this silly empirical system. Now if we could only get them to use something slightly more sensible than AU 
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voodoo
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Posted - 2005.03.07 11:34:00 -
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this is a fun reading thread. ty
as far as the pos stuff fitting inside your badger 2. well years back the expanding sponge was devoloped, the pos structures are like the expanding sponge, just add water and bamm there ye go
continue on...
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Dred 'Morte
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Posted - 2005.03.07 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Vannaroth
and if you wanna get really fussy, then there shouldnt be any outter-ship sound either 
Read the chronicles, the Pod simulates sound. Can u emagine urself inside a pod during days without earing a single sound except perhaps plup plup glug glug
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Tobiaz
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Posted - 2005.03.07 12:21:00 -
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Originally by: Vicker Lahn'se
Edited by: Vicker Lahn''se on 05/03/2005 20:16:01
I must say, however, that the flames do look pretty lame considering the environment. It would at least look a little better if there was visible leaking of gasses and liquids into space. Homeworld had pretty nice damage effects...
IMHO Homeworld was much better on the realistic art department, period. CCP is great with all the artsy futuristic looks and all that, but IMHO something that looks realistic always looks better.
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Matthew
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Posted - 2005.03.07 12:30:00 -
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Originally by: ErrorS
5. How can I fit this HUGE veld roid with 200k volume into this tiny cargo container? I'ts funny when you think about it.. sitting next to a veld roid 100x's bigger then your ship and you somehow fit the whole thing into this little cargo container
Well, it's possible the mining lasers do some basic stripping out of useless material as they mine? Which would tie in nicely with why the modulated mining laser crystals need refining skills. Of course, there would still be the question of where said waste material went!
Originally by: ErrorS
6. Sorta like 5. But how was I able to fit POS equip in my badger mk2? I mean, I could fit 3 badgers inside a silo but somehow my badger was able to hold 3 of them, haha. Same with ship maintanance array, how am I able to fit 10 battleships inside of it?
The answer to this is that they're flat-pack kits I can fit several flat-pack wardrobes in my car, but once I've assembled them there's no way they'd fit. Even most current sattelites are desiged this way - they pack up ultra-small to fit in the rocket's payload bay, then all the antenna arrays, solar panels etc fold out on deployment.
Originally by: Lorth
How come our guns need to track when orbiting an object?
Because the eve tracking system is simplified to reduce the huuuge load it would take to implement a perfectly accurate one.
Originally by: Lorth
Why do weapons have a fall off? Whats slowing them down past a given distance?
It's not so much slowing them down (although I know that was mentioned falsely in some item descriptions), as their accuracy drops. However good your aiming mechanism, there's going to be a limit to how accurately you can point your gun - the error in the pointing is going to be some angle. At close ranges, it doesn't matter at all, the small angle error transfers into a small offset on where your shot actually hits, but the offset won't be enough to make you miss your target. As the range becomes longer, the offset gets larger. If the offset is +/- 100m at 100km range, there is a uniform chance of each offset value, and your target is a circle 50m radius, you'll miss half the time. Of course, technically fall-off should be affected by target size like tracking is. As for why this is different on different guns - maybe the mounting used is different depending on the intended fucntion of the gun...so long-range guns get the "sniper" mounting, low tracking, high accuracy etc.
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Wilvarin Sense
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Posted - 2005.03.07 14:13:00 -
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I've always wondered why sentry guns at stargates never open fire on npc pirates.
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Clymidia
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Posted - 2005.03.07 15:02:00 -
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:)
I think you could get a sociology degree out of just doing a disertation around this thread alone.!
good reading.
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Zothike
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Posted - 2005.03.07 16:54:00 -
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it's cool that there is no alien races
I dont want Eve to turn as ridiculous as Babylon 5 or Star Treck
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Raindrop
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Posted - 2005.03.07 17:31:00 -
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The air would flow out of a ship by pressure differential. Which is only 1 bar. Unles the hole is huge, the amount of air escaping is rather small. It's not like a 1 bar pressure difference tears things up highly. Especially not if it's bolted down (like a ship).
Raindrop
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Wanoah
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Posted - 2005.03.08 03:14:00 -
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How can we tell what is real and what isn't? As soon as we climb into those pods and plug in to our ships, we are completely dependent on a view of our surroundings that is mediated by camera drones and the pod software. How do we know that the images we see actually even reflect the world around us? Already, the pod provides us with artificial sounds to improve our situational awareness. What if the images provided are artificial too? For all we know, everything that happens after we plug in to our pods could be fake - we could all just be taking part in some grand experiment: a simulation or game to entertain those mysterious Jovians who provided the pod technology to begin with.
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Xavier Cardde
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Posted - 2005.03.08 04:47:00 -
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Originally by: Basileus
Originally by: Tobiron
I'm now a six month old noob and have noticed a few inconsistancies in the Eve world. Such as...
Humans are the only sentient race? Not a single alien anywhere.
Deadspace - I can warp out but can't warp in. Rats can use micro warp, I can't.
No gravity. You can float up to a planet with out falling in to it.
Why do I get flames when my Hull's getting battered and NPCs don't?
Don't get me wrong I love Eve and these things don't bother me. I just think it's funny. Has anyone else spotted any Eveisms?
Why is there sound in space? Because their is a medium sound can travel through? Me no think so. But I suppose it's a game...
Read Jovian Wetgrave... its just simulated sound...
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