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Nylith Empyreal Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 132	Posted - 2012.10.04 04:00:00 - [31] - Quote Needs xenomorphs. "Oh, you can't help that," said the troll: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" -ásaid the forumwarrior. "You must be," said the troll, "or you wouldn't have come here."
Nicolo da'Vicenza Air The Unthinkables 1881	Posted - 2012.10.04 04:55:00 - [32] - Quote i'd rather bombard planets instead of grind structures tbh too bad there's no real plan to integrate DUST battles over sov warfare, or even disputes over planetary frickin interaction there's talk about integrating it into FW, too bad I don't play that so maybe it'll be involved in nullsec fights after the FW integration, after the POS revamp, around the nullsec update in like 2014-2015 that was needed back in 2010? disappointing
KrakizBad Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension 909	Posted - 2012.10.04 04:58:00 - [33] - Quote All I see is lots of Dust Bunnies with daddy's credit card to try out EVE and buy lots of PLEX, which hopefully I will take from them. It's all good. Why did you take my wings away?
Cat Troll Systems Federation Coalition of Galactic Unity 8	Posted - 2012.10.04 05:45:00 - [34] - Quote Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote: i'd rather bombard planets instead of grind structures tbh too bad there's no real plan to integrate DUST battles over sov warfare, or even disputes over planetary frickin interaction there's talk about integrating it into FW, too bad I don't play that so maybe it'll be involved in nullsec fights after the FW integration, after the POS revamp, around the nullsec update in like 2014-2015 that was needed back in 2010? disappointing I'm pretty sure they talked about how the release of Dust would be a base for a lot of plans they have for intergration. Sov warfare is kinda a key part of EVE, so I'm not suprised they are taking it slow. KrakizBad wrote: All I see is lots of Dust Bunnies with daddy's credit card to try out EVE and buy lots of PLEX, which hopefully I will take from them. It's all good. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLhIdM3r7yA Taking money from newbies is also a reason we should support Dust ^_^ Lolwut: "Yes, you kids don't know how lucky you have it. These days noobs get given free tackle ships for PvP but back in the old days the only tackle ships we were given were our pods. We had to use them to bump their rookie ships out of alignment to stop them warping off."
Evelyn Meiyi Meiyi Family Holdings 47	Posted - 2012.10.04 06:00:00 - [35] - Quote Selinate wrote: The beta is at a stage now where it's much better than it ever originally was, so there's that. It now has some promise to be a fairly decent FPS on it's own. If it really takes off, I'm hoping it will give much more depth to New Eden in terms of explorable home planets, more intriguing stories, more different environments to different areas of New Eden instead of the same rocks we have everywhere right now, along with more immersion. The only problem I see with it right now is I have no idea how they're going to manage to make PI relevant enough to make Dust relevant enough to Eve. I mean, really? Fighting over PI installations and that's it? Oh no, you'll remove so many passive sources of income for so many players... big deal. If you make them contestable, then again, I don't see how it would be a big deal since there are soooooo many planets out there, they can just move to a new system and set of planets. In my opinion, they should be more focused on making it about fighting to take control of station environments in 0.0, and other similar endeavors... My understanding is that controlling a particuiar planetary district will have an effect on the local system's economy, as well as returning taxes and such to the current occupying forces. Also, the districts may have a generalized effect on the system itself, similar to WH space or Incursion zones.
Akrasjel Lanate Naquatech Conglomerate 781	Posted - 2012.10.04 07:05:00 - [36] - Quote Quote: EVE player feelings on Dust 514. I dont have a damn PS3 to see is the game is as good as i assume.
Skydell Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums 294	Posted - 2012.10.04 07:58:00 - [37] - Quote Cerebral Wolf wrote: Do you think it being free to play will help it compete with those titans? Maybe the opposite. If they don't have a distribution system besides the download, it might discourage game play depending on how big that download is. I haven't owned a console in years but one of the aspects of Online I didn't deal with where console was concerned was the massive downloads and patching. Maybe its common with online versions of Console games too.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 4797	Posted - 2012.10.04 08:48:00 - [38] - Quote Cerebral Wolf wrote: As some of you may have noticed, TheMittani.com has started to run news and articles on Dust 514. One of the ones i want to cover in the near future is about how EVE players feel about Dust. So far i get a lot of "Meh, so what?" from EVE players and i'd like to know what the reasons for that are, obviously i have my suspicions and personal opinions but i don't want to make assumptions and speak for everyone so i'd like to know what your thoughts are on it and why?... It's an interesting opportunity for EVE, and full credit to CCP for taking a risk on a genuinely original concept. Worst case: it tanks, and gets folded into the PC EVE. Personally, my expectation is that it will be a moderate success in much the same way that EVE is, with well above-average player lifespans. I think the meta-gaming/progression aspect will offer a niche that's currently just not available and while a majority will be turned off or indifferent, a minority will become long-term, hardcore (by console standards) players. CCP most of all need exposure and publicity, since the strategy requires the largest possible number of people to try it out in order to net that fraction of them that will enjoy Dust's USP. Competing against the "big name" FPS titles for eyeshare will be... challenging. Getting Dust bundled with the new PS3 will be a help in this respect. And it seems that there is already a moderate amount of interest in the online console community. Basically I think that Dust will be to Halo/MW/etc as EVE is to WoW/Aion/etc MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button."
Elmanketticks Fleet of the Damned Happy Endings 37	Posted - 2012.10.04 08:59:00 - [39] - Quote I played the beta and was impressed as to how CCP managed to build a decent shooter with some EVE components in it as well... Though I think the majority of the PS3-owners (who ARE a bit younger than the average EVE player) will be overwhelmed by the complexity of DUST and - in the long run - EVE. There are simply too much options to choose from. It's not a simple shooting game and not a space-shoot-simulator either, but something in between and I really am uncertain that this will attract those who own PS3 consoles. The only thing I am concerned about is: how will the outcome of DUST affect the EVE development? Will CCP cancel planned things like they did before when DUST becomes a failure? Even fire some developers? Is EVE at stake here or is the DUST development a completely autonomous part of CCP; failure or not being of no relevance to EVE players? The State will not fall. Join us. Fight. Conquer.
Flamespar Woof Club 450	Posted - 2012.10.04 09:13:00 - [40] - Quote I think dust shows great promise. Really excited to see howj it turns out. The best feature is its ability to make PC elitests QQ. I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone.
Marlona Sky D00M. Northern Coalition. 1381	Posted - 2012.10.04 09:14:00 - [41] - Quote Cerebral Wolf wrote: Do you think it being free to play will help it compete with those titans? While there is a couple games here and there that do well with a payed subscription model (hello EVE) online gaming is shifting hard towards free to play games. Staying free to play is critical for DUST to stand a chance against titles that are seasoned veterans in the FPS market. I know most of you are PC4LYF players, and that is fine, but you can not pretend that the console market, especially FPS, is not a market juggernaut. It is a force of epic proportions. Make no mistake, DUST will need to consistently dazzle and blow away players minds. For the amount of battles and such that needs to happen for DUST to function properly with massive amounts of back to back matches there is only one gaming platform that will be able to deliver that and it is NOT on the PC. Hate me forever if you want, but the vast majority of FPS players are doing it on a console and loving it. The fewer battles that happen in DUST, the less of an impact EVE and DUST can have on each other. Then again I believe those of you who are afraid of new and different things (cowards in my eyes) want exactly that. Little to zero connection with each other. It is time for you to welcome DUST with open arms and provide real solid and meaningful feedback so both games can survive and thrive. Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner!
Beltze Sorgin Core Mining United Industries Intersteller Alliance 6	Posted - 2012.10.04 09:50:00 - [42] - Quote Can CCP please call the whole ships providing support from space thing "Ortillery" (Orbital Artillery) in as a nod to the RPG Traveller / MegaTraveller?
Gillia Winddancer Shiny Noble Crown Services 94	Posted - 2012.10.04 09:56:00 - [43] - Quote Cat Troll wrote: Kitty Bear wrote: I'm actually looking forward to the opportunity to nuke the s&t , from orbit, out of the Dust players. And they will be looking forward to nuke the * out of you Bart Starr wrote:** Fail. Fail hard. Crash and burn. Hopefully it will be a sharp lesson for CCP. I plan to provide plenty of negative fan reviews on gaming sites. And I don't even own a console. So not only have you never tried the game, you also condemn it to failure before it came out of the Beta stage? Seriously? Is that the average intelligence of an EVE player? Mate, that's the kind of individual that deserves to have the title "human being" stripped. Reason would be "too stupid to be human". To have that kind of attitude towards a product which he claims he will not use or care about in the first place is pretty much the epitome of retardness. What's even more amazing is that he's far from alone. There is a small group of people who think that they have more rights towards what CCP does than the CEO himself. The Dust project have really brought them out from the woodwork.
Graic Gabtar The Lemon Party 378	Posted - 2012.10.04 10:21:00 - [44] - Quote Gillia Winddancer wrote: Mate, that's the kind of individual that deserves to have the title "human being" stripped. Reason would be "too stupid to be human". To have that kind of attitude towards a product which he claims he will not use or care about in the first place is pretty much the epitome of retardness. What's even more amazing is that he's far from alone. There is a small group of people who think that they have more rights towards what CCP does than the CEO himself. The Dust project have really brought them out from the woodwork. Hiya! I don't want to rain on your parade or appear rude, because I'm not trying to be but the thread is called "EVE player feelings on Dust 514." The boy plays EVE, hates that Dust game for no other reason than the one he's got. However, the thread is trying to flush out all views and I think you're being a tad harsh and lowering the tone to LEVEL == CRASS because a person has a view you don't like. And I like shiny things. "SEVERE side effects include: loss of coordination; muscle weakness; numbness of the skin..." WARNING: The current poster is erratic, prone to error and generally blissfully unaware due to the taking of many hard drugs over the course of many years - most of them legal.
Kult Altol Republican Industries Epsilon Fleet 118	Posted - 2012.10.04 10:27:00 - [45] - Quote I like Dust 514 I think its awesome, bigger world more players. more death. All you pixel tuff guys are gonna go "ugh dust sucks" bal bla bla A narrow mind is a focused mind.
Josef Djugashvilis 632	Posted - 2012.10.04 10:33:00 - [46] - Quote Dust 514? So long as CCP does not lose money on it, I know little and care less. Those who wish to play Dust 514 will, and those of us who do not wish to, will not. I took the wrong turn years ago.
Cerebral Wolf GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 25	Posted - 2012.10.04 10:44:00 - [47] - Quote Josef Djugashvilis wrote: Dust 514? So long as CCP does not lose money on it, I know little and care less. Those who wish to play Dust 514 will, and those of us who do not wish to, will not. But what if it starts to effect your game play experience in EVE?
Graic Gabtar The Lemon Party 382	Posted - 2012.10.04 10:52:00 - [48] - Quote Cerebral Wolf wrote: But what if it starts to effect your game play experience in EVE? I will place a small wager on he will come and complain on the Forums my Lupine friend! ...vision changes (eg, blurred vision)... WARNING: The current poster is erratic, prone to error and generally blissfully unaware due to the taking of many hard drugs over the course of many years - most of them legal.
Christ Illusion Atrocity Vendors 2	Posted - 2012.10.04 10:54:00 - [49] - Quote I think they should have make EVE a succesful game before making any new projects. EVE has great potential and could have much more players.
Papa Sotken Cadre Assault Force This is why we cant have nice things 707	Posted - 2012.10.04 10:58:00 - [50] - Quote I care not for it completely. FPS bores me nowadays, they all the same. Also Ps3 exclusive? Ps3 sucks, i'd rather not. I think CCP is under the impression DUST will hit some sort of niche market and be a huge success, this would result in more ppl playing Eve. In actual fact the only people who are gonna buy DUST will be people who play Eve and wanna give their console FPS a try. Well i could be wrong, but i doubt it. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1671223#post1671223 Cadre Assault Force Recruiting New/Old players who are looking for gang pvp. EU TZ Based.
Zloco Crendraven BALKAN EXPRESS 67	Posted - 2012.10.04 11:03:00 - [51] - Quote Cerebral Wolf wrote: As some of you may have noticed, TheMittani.com has started to run news and articles on Dust 514. One of the ones i want to cover in the near future is about how EVE players feel about Dust. So far i get a lot of "Meh, so what?" from EVE players and i'd like to know what the reasons for that are, obviously i have my suspicions and personal opinions but i don't want to make assumptions and speak for everyone so i'd like to know what your thoughts are on it and why?... GJ on that article just continue on the road. It will be nice to have a column bout dust where to follow all the latest news.
Rek Seven Probe Patrol Project Wildfire 441	Posted - 2012.10.04 11:06:00 - [52] - Quote For me the game simply doesn't look good enough for me to dedicate any time to it. It has one noteworthy feature in that it connects to an existing game (eve) but because it looks and plays like a game from 5 years ago, that unique feature just becomes a gimmick. I don't think Dust 514 will ever be able to compete with the most popular games on the market (e.g. COD & BF) but because it's free, it might get a small dedicated community that might also gain interest in playing eve, which would be good. I'll play it after it inevitably fails on the PS3 and is brought to PC and given to eve players for free. They see me trolling, they hating...
Graic Gabtar The Lemon Party 382	Posted - 2012.10.04 11:06:00 - [53] - Quote Papa Sotken wrote: In actual fact the only people who are gonna buy DUST will be people who play Eve and wanna give their console FPS a try. Well I think this is about it really. It's a rancid, crazy, overpopulated FPS market and CCP will probably be only to harvest players from their couple of hundred thousand existing EVE players and a few dregs here and there. The rest of going to be snaffled by Sony's own orbital bombardment of PS2 advertising. At least the ways I makes it out to be Captain Walker! ...unsteadiness... WARNING: The current poster is erratic, prone to error and generally blissfully unaware due to the taking of many hard drugs over the course of many years - most of them legal.
Gillia Winddancer Shiny Noble Crown Services 96	Posted - 2012.10.04 11:17:00 - [54] - Quote Graic Gabtar wrote: Gillia Winddancer wrote: Mate, that's the kind of individual that deserves to have the title "human being" stripped. Reason would be "too stupid to be human". To have that kind of attitude towards a product which he claims he will not use or care about in the first place is pretty much the epitome of retardness. What's even more amazing is that he's far from alone. There is a small group of people who think that they have more rights towards what CCP does than the CEO himself. The Dust project have really brought them out from the woodwork. Hiya! I don't want to rain on your parade or appear rude, because I'm not trying to be but the thread is called "EVE player feelings on Dust 514." The boy plays EVE, hates that Dust game for no other reason than the one he's got. However, the thread is trying to flush out all views and I think you're being a tad harsh and lowering the tone to LEVEL == CRASS because a person has a view you don't like. And I like shiny things. "SEVERE side effects include: loss of coordination; muscle weakness; numbness of the skin..." There is a big difference between having a feeling/criticize something and being a pitiful excuse of an existence. I bring down my hammer on the latter.
Graic Gabtar The Lemon Party 382	Posted - 2012.10.04 11:27:00 - [55] - Quote Gillia Winddancer wrote: There is a big difference between having a feeling/criticize something and being a pitiful excuse of an existence. I bring down my hammer on the latter. Fair enough, nice to see more RP in GD. ...involuntary twitching or muscle movements... WARNING: The current poster is erratic, prone to error and generally blissfully unaware due to the taking of many hard drugs over the course of many years - most of them legal.
Muad 'dib The Imperial Fedaykin 536	Posted - 2012.10.04 11:27:00 - [56] - Quote Dust is nothing more than "look what we can do" poster for ccp and on that basis alone i think its good, pushing games, platforms, networks and players. I'm not particularly happy about eve's profits being thrown at something else, while eve literally paid for it, still has many issues and promised features are still very much outstanding. Clearly ccp decided that giving eve that all important (to ccps vision) walking in stations all that attention, for a player base that was 'meh' overall, meant they might as well just throttle back eve and dream something bigger, as if eve wasnt a HUGE dream, its not good enough any more? Ironically ccp have decided to tap the console market to expand eve, rather than expanding eve on its actual platform. However i wish dust514 the greatest success, as when the console shooter jocks get bored with it, ccp will hopefully have some insane profit to cycle back into eves development. At least thats my hope. Good luck dust, but i wont be buying a PS3 to listen to teenagers smack their own teams constantly just yet :P http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4375/mynewsig2.jpg
Shalua Rui FEROX AQUILA 5610	Posted - 2012.10.04 11:28:00 - [57] - Quote What is it with every thread going down the drain with insults and profanity lately? Is it that time of the year again? Personally, I don't much care for FPS games... or console games... but I hope DUST succeeds. It can only be good for EVE in the long run, if it does. Also, should it ever come to PC, I'd probably check it out. Ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!
Tao Dolcino Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation 8	Posted - 2012.10.04 11:32:00 - [58] - Quote What i fail to understand is how this will bring more people to EVE (not to mention that i'd prefer to see CCP work on "how to keep more people playing EVE after the first month"). If it's a console game, it's to touch a public which is different than EVE's public. So mostly people who have not played EVE and don't know EVE. Then how the hell these persons will feel concerned or interested by DUST's connexion with EVE ? They come to play a FSP. What can motivate them to also join EVE ? To join EVE which is not on PS3... and for which they'll have to pay 15Gé¼/$ every months... And then we come back exactly at the same point : how do we keep them ???
Graic Gabtar The Lemon Party 382	Posted - 2012.10.04 11:38:00 - [59] - Quote Is this game even slated for release any time in the next couple of years? Is there a chance it's going to end up like Twilight Online? ...numbness of the skin... WARNING: The current poster is erratic, prone to error and generally blissfully unaware due to the taking of many hard drugs over the course of many years - most of them legal.
Katarina Reid Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 234	Posted - 2012.10.04 11:46:00 - [60] - Quote I dont want dust to make eve players have to buy a console to defend there own stuff.

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