It's coming out at the same time Planetside 2 is. So. Guess which one is going to be better.

It's coming out at the same time Planetside 2 is. So. Guess which one is going to be better.

The beta is at a stage now where it's much better than it ever originally was, so there's that. It now has some promise to be a fairly decent FPS on it's own.

If it really takes off, I'm hoping it will give much more depth to New Eden in terms of explorable home planets, more intriguing stories, more different environments to different areas of New Eden instead of the same rocks we have everywhere right now, along with more immersion.

The only problem I see with it right now is I have no idea how they're going to manage to make PI relevant enough to make Dust relevant enough to Eve. I mean, really? Fighting over PI installations and that's it? Oh no, you'll remove so many passive sources of income for so many players... big deal. If you make them contestable, then again, I don't see how it would be a big deal since there are soooooo many planets out there, they can just move to a new system and set of planets. In my opinion, they should be more focused on making it about fighting to take control of station environments in 0.0, and other similar endeavors...

totally biggest pile of crap even seen, even worse than the remake of elite

on a more serious note, it might be the end of eve online, if dust is a complete failure

i really hope not, i love eve online

We just really don't care, it's a console shooter for console tards. As long as they stay on their side of the tracks (the crappy side) so we don't have to actually see them we can coexist

I'm actually looking forward to the opportunity to nuke the s&*t , from orbit, out of the Dust players.

Fail. Fail hard. Crash and burn.
Hopefully it will be a sharp lesson for CCP.

I plan to provide plenty of negative fan reviews on gaming sites. And I don't even own a console.

And they will be looking forward to nuke the **** out of you



So not only have you never tried the game, you also condemn it to failure before it came out of the Beta stage?
Seriously?
Is that the average intelligence of an EVE player?

And they will be looking forward to nuke the **** out of you



So not only have you never tried the game, you also condemn it to failure before it came out of the Beta stage?
Seriously?
Is that the average intelligence of an EVE player?

Its for console. That's the biggest reason for my lack of interest. I'm also weary of micro transactions. On top of that its a shooter. Another game about shooting people. Sci-fi can be a whole lot more interesting than that. We get to set foot on foreign planets and you want me to run and gun? Bleh.

I'm an avid Unreal Tournament 3 player so I consider myself pretty good at first person shooters. Thing is I don't own a Playstation 3, and I don't see myself buying one to play Dust 514 either.

So unless CCP comes to it's senses and ports Dust 514 to the PC, its just not something I'm interested in.

Not going to try it because I'm not a console gamer.
I don't want further resources wasted on it, either in terms of 'support' or further projects.

I want the console experiment to end, and CCP to stick to what they are marginally good at. Making a niche MMO.
Leave FPS for developers who are actually good at them, like Bungie, Dice, Infinity Ward, and ID.

CCP has already demonstrated that they are incapable of walking and chewing gum at the same time.
Don't expect them to walk a highwire, while juggling flaming badgers. In an earthquake.

Infinity Ward was OK until Modern Warfare Happened
that's the shittiest, most unbalanced FPS I've ever played

Is Planetside 2 also completely free?

As some of you may have noticed, efukt.com has started to run news and articles on Dust 514. One of the ones i want to cover in the near future is about how EVE players feel about Dust. So far i get a lot of "Meh, so what?" from EVE players and i'd like to know what the reasons for that are, obviously i have my suspicions and personal opinions but i don't want to make assumptions and speak for everyone so i'd like to know what your thoughts are on it and why?...

i'd rather bombard planets instead of grind structures tbh

too bad there's no real plan to integrate DUST battles over sov warfare, or even disputes over planetary frickin interaction

there's talk about integrating it into FW, too bad I don't play that

so maybe it'll be involved in nullsec fights after the FW integration, after the POS revamp, around the nullsec update in like 2014-2015 that was needed back in 2010?

disappointing

All I see is lots of Dust Bunnies with daddy's credit card to try out EVE and buy lots of PLEX, which hopefully I will take from them. It's all good.

The beta is at a stage now where it's much better than it ever originally was, so there's that. It now has some promise to be a fairly decent FPS on it's own.

If it really takes off, I'm hoping it will give much more depth to New Eden in terms of explorable home planets, more intriguing stories, more different environments to different areas of New Eden instead of the same rocks we have everywhere right now, along with more immersion.

The only problem I see with it right now is I have no idea how they're going to manage to make PI relevant enough to make Dust relevant enough to Eve. I mean, really? Fighting over PI installations and that's it? Oh no, you'll remove so many passive sources of income for so many players... big deal. If you make them contestable, then again, I don't see how it would be a big deal since there are soooooo many planets out there, they can just move to a new system and set of planets. In my opinion, they should be more focused on making it about fighting to take control of station environments in 0.0, and other similar endeavors...

EVE player feelings on Dust 514.

Do you think it being free to play will help it compete with those titans?

As some of you may have noticed, TheMittani.com has started to run news and articles on Dust 514. One of the ones i want to cover in the near future is about how EVE players feel about Dust. So far i get a lot of "Meh, so what?" from EVE players and i'd like to know what the reasons for that are, obviously i have my suspicions and personal opinions but i don't want to make assumptions and speak for everyone so i'd like to know what your thoughts are on it and why?...

Do you think it being free to play will help it compete with those titans?

And they will be looking forward to nuke the **** out of you



So not only have you never tried the game, you also condemn it to failure before it came out of the Beta stage?
Seriously?
Is that the average intelligence of an EVE player?

Mate, that's the kind of individual that deserves to have the title "human being" stripped. Reason would be "too stupid to be human". To have that kind of attitude towards a product which he claims he will not use or care about in the first place is pretty much the epitome of retardness. What's even more amazing is that he's far from alone. There is a small group of people who think that they have more rights towards what CCP does than the CEO himself.

The Dust project have really brought them out from the woodwork.

Dust 514?

So long as CCP does not lose money on it, I know little and care less.

Those who wish to play Dust 514 will, and those of us who do not wish to, will not.

But what if it starts to effect your game play experience in EVE?

As some of you may have noticed, TheMittani.com has started to run news and articles on Dust 514. One of the ones i want to cover in the near future is about how EVE players feel about Dust. So far i get a lot of "Meh, so what?" from EVE players and i'd like to know what the reasons for that are, obviously i have my suspicions and personal opinions but i don't want to make assumptions and speak for everyone so i'd like to know what your thoughts are on it and why?...

In actual fact the only people who are gonna buy DUST will be people who play Eve and wanna give their console FPS a try.

Hiya!

I don't want to rain on your parade or appear rude, because I'm not trying to be but the thread is called "EVE player feelings on Dust 514."

The boy plays EVE, hates that Dust game for no other reason than the one he's got.

However, the thread is trying to flush out all views and I think you're being a tad harsh and lowering the tone to LEVEL == CRASS because a person has a view you don't like.

And I like shiny things.

"SEVERE side effects include: loss of coordination; muscle weakness; numbness of the skin..."

There is a big difference between having a feeling/criticize something and being a pitiful excuse of an existence. I bring down my hammer on the latter.

While there is a couple games here and there that do well with a payed subscription model (hello EVE) online gaming is shifting hard towards free to play games.

Staying free to play is critical for DUST to stand a chance against titles that are seasoned veterans in the FPS market. I know most of you are PC4LYF players, and that is fine, but you can not pretend that the console market, especially FPS, is not a market juggernaut. It is a force of epic proportions.

Make no mistake, DUST will need to consistently dazzle and blow away players minds. For the amount of battles and such that needs to happen for DUST to function properly with massive amounts of back to back matches there is only one gaming platform that will be able to deliver that and it is NOT on the PC. Hate me forever if you want, but the vast majority of FPS players are doing it on a console and loving it.

The fewer battles that happen in DUST, the less of an impact EVE and DUST can have on each other. Then again I believe those of you who are afraid of new and different things (cowards in my eyes) want exactly that. Little to zero connection with each other. It is time for you to welcome DUST with open arms and provide real solid and meaningful feedback so both games can survive and thrive.

Is this game even slated for release any time in the next couple of years?

Is there a chance it's going to end up like Twilight Online?

...numbness of the skin...

Buy me a console and I will consider giving DUST a couple of minutes. I don't like to be restricted like this. If I don't buy a console, I can't play DUST. OK, I don't play it then, more time for Eve.

I don't play it then, more time for Eve

This is why CCp didn't want to make it a PC game ... maybe ONE day people will understand
the did'nt Want to make eve players quit eve for dust ... !!!! clear for everyone NOW ? :x

Me i Think DUST is coming too earlier they should have been doing a system of avatar ( Incarna) for abordeable structures then Abordeable planets .. aand after a time create DUST ( dust players =aliens ? sanshas? ) and put the battlefield on planets

Eve players against dust players factions Vs factions etc etc but not that crapy cooperative intergame Bullshit....

Is this game even slated for release any time in the next couple of years?

Is there a chance it's going to end up like Twilight Online?

...numbness of the skin...

I don't play it then, more time for Eve

This is why CCp didn't want to make it a PC game ... maybe ONE day people will understand
the did'nt Want to make eve players quit eve for dust ... !!!! clear for everyone NOW ? :x

Me i Think DUST is coming too earlier they should have been doing a system of avatar ( Incarna) for abordeable structures then Abordeable planets .. aand after a time create DUST ( dust players =aliens ? sanshas? ) and put the battlefield on planets

Eve players against dust players factions Vs factions etc etc but not that crapy cooperative intergame Bullshit....

Expect it to be released this year, i do.


So the general feeling is that you're not console or FPS players and thus have no interest in Dust. Does the possibility of what this could bring with it not interest that many people?...

Even as an EVE player and does not like console FPS games the thought of trolling all those consoles kiddies should be exciting shouldn't it?.. Or even the point that CCP is treading new, unexplored ground? Something like this has never been attempted before and that does not interest you?

The community around Dust is actually pretty good so far and even the console kiddies are very interested in it, it's got a large portion of the M.A.G community involved already and that was quite the niche little FPS on the PS3 too. There's certainly going to be a good number of non EVE playing loyal customers and that's shown through already.

I personally feel CCP's business model with it will be the same as EVE's, a small userbase to start with and add subscriptions or whatever to it over time as the meta game gets more complex, people hear about it more and most importantly, as new features are added to the game like what's happened with EVE.

Please, at least attempt to write in english so i can understand what you're talking about.

we'll end up with yet another mechanic/system in Eve that's hardly ever used, along with Captain's Quarters, Lowsec, Planetary Interaction, and level 4 drone missions.

I'm cautiously optimistic for its effects on Eves future and would consider buying a PS3 just to give it a go as long as i could find one on the cheap somewhere.

We just really don't care, it's a console shooter for console tards. As long as they stay on their side of the tracks (the crappy side) so we don't have to actually see them we can coexist

I think Dust breaks the RP in EVE and completely shuts down all interest in New Eden for me.
I returned the ps3 I bought to play Dust because it gave bad light to the EVE universe.

How so?

But what if it starts to effect your game play experience in EVE?

So the general feeling is that you're not console or FPS players and thus have no interest in Dust. Does the possibility of what this could bring with it not interest that many people?...

Even as an EVE player and does not like console FPS games the thought of trolling all those consoles kiddies should be exciting shouldn't it?.. Or even the point that CCP is treading new, unexplored ground? Something like this has never been attempted before and that does not interest you?

The community around Dust is actually pretty good so far and even the console kiddies are very interested in it, it's got a large portion of the M.A.G community involved already and that was quite the niche little FPS on the PS3 too. There's certainly going to be a good number of non EVE playing loyal customers and that's shown through already.

I personally feel CCP's business model with it will be the same as EVE's, a small userbase to start with and add subscriptions or whatever to it over time as the meta game gets more complex, people hear about it more and most importantly, as new features are added to the game like what's happened with EVE.

Well, the different suits. I started an Amarr and automatically came equipped in a Gallente, or a Caldari suit.
Joining a battle almost always would pit me up against the Ministry of War, an Amarr corp. It would have me working for some shitstain of a corp belonging to the Minmatar.
Those two main points cripple the game for me. The other things are too small to mention and could easily be overlooked if I just did not have to deal with non-Amarr races.

I know it really seems silly and trivial...but the Amarr are the reason I started playing EVE...that and to play Dust as an Amarr.

Gawd. Now dare this beta group you via corp due to location on earth to have better testing experience. Or be limited to specific suit mixtures so people wont be spread out over a bunch of redundant suits when you only need to test the base scout suit stats rather than caldari scout, minmitar scout, amarr scout... Minmitars only race to have and be logi? Yeah, that's going to happen.
Even after launch I doubt all the art will be provided. The only buildings anyone has seen in Dust are Caldari. Why? Because art is not gameplay.

The only thing to really be concerned about is weapons. Don't think they are going for a sidearm/med/heavy weapon system for every race for default setups.

Yet its as complete as EvE 1.0 was. So there are still tons of things to add later. I think too many treat it as a normal title that is tossed out at 90% feature complete then wait for DLC to complete it. It's really more like 20% feature complete and hope to see it expanded on for the next 5-8 years.

o.o
why are posts disappearing in this thread

Yes. Yes it is.

I don't care what it looks like.
Just call it dropsuit instead of Gallente...I was stating it ruined the EVE feel.
Why would an Amarr loyalist be caught wearing their enemies uniform?

Also, Dust only has art so far. The game play is less pleasurable than sticking barbed wire up your ****.

I

I am disappointed in the lack of interaction that DUST will have with EVE. It would be awesome if you could send in some DUST players to blow up a POS or have some real impact in PVP rather than just PI. Some ideas that are probably not going to make i

on a more serious note im too old to learn how to shoot people with a console pad. Give me mouse and keyboard everyday. I represent my generation id say. The younger guys that can happily headshot you 2000 yards away with a ps3 pad......well these people LIKE modern warfare 2 and 3. They have no concept of a high quality shooter. They want a perk that fires a nuclear bomb killing eveyone on the map and a perk that helicoptors in a support team for them or DAMMIT they just wont play.

I found the game appealing but I would only play it on PC.

The lack of interaction is only based around what's been officially announced for launch, how do you know these features won't be put in at some point in the future? Why do you assume PI will be the only thing affected? That's just very closed minded in my opinion and seems to a pretty consistent theme among the posts in this thread, people are only concerned about EVE because its all they know, or they don't have a PS3 and feel that bashing CCP is the way to correct it. Not a very good number of people seem to be considering the possibilitys this could bring and are not looking at the big picture which is ironic considering EVE is all about the big picture unless you're all only interested in mining in your little belts and i hope that's not the case.

@ISD TYPE40: I would appreciate it if you didn't delete any rumors or speculation, it's kinda the whole point of the thread.

I plan to provide plenty of negative fan reviews on gaming sites. And I don't even own a console.

I just want to thank you for asking for my honest opinion and then telling me I'm closed minded because I only include what CCP has announced rather than what might come in a few years. Are you sure you are asking for opinions or are you tryng to tell us what our opinion should be?

Bring my slave... Soldiers forward so i may send them to die.... Win glorious battles on my behalf.

My Dustbunnies, go and win, crush opposing force and nialite their families. if you shall fail me, my punishment to you is fierce. Go now and worship your god in heavens...

OP, are you trying to get traffic to mittani.com or generate interest in Dust? Somehow I don't believe you are actually interested in this subject yourself.

Lets see, Dust...interesting concept and all but the cancer of SOE looms over everything like a black cloud of epic fail. So no, not interested in Dust. SOE has ZERO credibility as a company to me so I avoid their cancerous corporate policies and inept management at all costs.

It should be noted, Planetside 2 is PC only.

So it's not in direct competition with Dust 514.

Posts have been removed because they were in breach of forum rules. Making personal attacks, posting rumours and anything else that is against the rules will pretty much ensure that said post is removed and/or edited. This is done in order to try and keep some semblance of a discussion going, rather than allowing it to degrade into petty personal arguments or ending with the thread being locked.

Decent, sensible discussion is openly welcomed here, and everyone is entitled to their opinions. What they are not "entitled" to is hurling personal insults at other players or CCP and their staff. So lets see if we can continue with this topic sans the rule breaking

I have finished.....

Please continue.....

Please also remember the Forum Rules

Thank you!

Arguments and the like would actually really help get to the root of the issues you know? heh

It should be noted, Planetside 2 is PC only.

So it's not in direct competition with Dust 514.

We just really don't care, it's a console shooter for console tards. As long as they stay on their side of the tracks (the crappy side) so we don't have to actually see them we can coexist

Decent discussion is always welcome on these forums. Inciting people to break the rules of the forums however, is not. If comments are edited or removed, it is because they are in breach of the policies and rules that govern the forums, usually those breaches are because of (but not limited to) personal attacks, foul language or trolling.

We all want to have good solid discussions on the topics that we, as EVE players, have a vested interest in. So lets try and keep it sensible and free of rule breaking.

Please also remember the Forum Rules

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For now, Hirai is resorting to asset sales.

I hope it succeeds.
A: If Dust can stand on its own legs, the EvE profit will go back to EvE or new projects
B: Dust can be the test dummy for CCP for EvE "on foot" environments.
C. We grow our community as more people notice CCP. Not just for Dust, but for EvE as well when they want to support their isk habit. Which means more fodder for everyone and money for CCP to fuel more space stuff.

SOE completely screwed Planetside back in the day

I'm an avid Unreal Tournament 3 player so I consider myself pretty good at first person shooters. Thing is I don't own a Playstation 3, and I don't see myself buying one to play Dust 514 either.

So unless CCP comes to it's senses and ports Dust 514 to the PC, its just not something I'm interested in.

[quote=F'elch]
Think about this, Sony don't want MS to get Dust based on the fact that it could actually work and be something amazing, Sony agrees to make the changes to their online infrastructure to allow Dust to work on the condition that Dust is made PS3 exclusive.

Why do Sony it as an exclusive? It's good for bragging about as its an exclusive, but most importantly, it keeps Dust OFF the PC for awhile so Sony can release Plantside 2 without any competition from Dust as they are both FPSMMO games and a lot of EVE players are playing Planetside 2, if Dust was being beta tested on the PC where would they all be? Testing Dust not Planetside.

I just thought I would try Dust. Noticed it was not avaliable for PC. Dropped the thought right away. And I own a PS3.

Prepare for the OP to tell you that you are close minded and give you what opinion he wants. He is not interested in hearing about the game being on PS3 and not PC. Apparently he feels this is a non-issue.

Like others I would most certainly give Dust a go, if it was on the PC. The last console I owned was the PS2, and since then I've never had any urge to get a console.

I'm all for Dust integration, and I'd liked to have played it.

Your articles are nice but I was never interested in first person shooters, I'm interested in Eve because it's a very different sort of game. I'm sorry I have to pile with the others, but I wouldn't go out and buy a model of a console which is past its heyday only to play the beta of a game that is unfinished.

I'd say you're making me feel terribly poor

As long as the the way it interacts with Eve is revealed with certainty, Dust takes place in the Dust world ; there are surely many ideas around about how the two would go together well but with things like ambulation, ring mining, revamping of POSes being in the pipeline for what appears to be forever, it looks much more sensible to devote oneself to what is really available.

If it really launches with a significant link to Eve it will also be only for Faction Warfare and frankly FW, with its world-encompassing isk-making connivance and pointless NPC empires, is the think associate with Eve the least.

Hopefully when we are finally able to explore derelict stations with our Avatars we will also be able to use guns. So we won't even need dust514 to get our shooting in face fix.

I hate to be a nerd in this situation, but...

According to the lore, without the special protective equipment, not even mercenaries in Dust could use the guns that they use because it would harm them also. Not to mention that they're genetically engineered to be tougher than us.

Hence, if we tried to use the guns they used, we'd be killed. Not only that, but if we tried to go up against dust players on the ground, they'd wipe the floor with us.

Rum...

Little to zero connection with each other.

It is time for you to welcome DUST with open arms and provide real solid and meaningful feedback so both games can survive and thrive.

The Dust project have really brought them out from the woodwork.

Expect it to be released this year, i do.


So the general feeling is that you're not console or FPS players and thus have no interest in Dust. Does the possibility of what this could bring with it not interest that many people?...

Even as an EVE player and does not like console FPS games the thought of trolling all those consoles kiddies should be exciting shouldn't it?.. Or even the point that CCP is treading new, unexplored ground? Something like this has never been attempted before and that does not interest you?

The community around Dust is actually pretty good so far and even the console kiddies are very interested in it, it's got a large portion of the M.A.G community involved already and that was quite the niche little FPS on the PS3 too. There's certainly going to be a good number of non EVE playing loyal customers and that's shown through already.

I personally feel CCP's business model with it will be the same as EVE's, a small userbase to start with and add subscriptions or whatever to it over time as the meta game gets more complex, people hear about it more and most importantly, as new features are added to the game like what's happened with EVE.

Soe can't screw up EVERY game they run surely!? Surely not every time?!

With regards to dust, I just don't think PI is the most interesting thing they can tie it too. No one really cares enough. Maybe if dust players could be hired to disrupt null moon mining operations, then it would really shake up the game in an interesting way. But PI has never really even crossed my radar since it was introduced.

But I hope it's good, and we're not just going to be swimming in obsolete junk ships and mods in eve for the sake of some failed console game. I hope.

I hate to be a nerd in this situation, but...

According to the lore, without the special protective equipment, not even mercenaries in Dust could use the guns that they use because it would harm them also. Not to mention that they're genetically engineered to be tougher than us.

Hence, if we tried to use the guns they used, we'd be killed. Not only that, but if we tried to go up against dust players on the ground, they'd wipe the floor with us.

Rum...

if Dust is to succeed, it will be due to the FPS community embrasing it, not the Eve Community.

Hypothetically, our avatars might be using ordinary, non-Dustbunny guns?

Embracing.

If Dust is to do what it says it's going to do, it needs to not be ignored by the Eve Community... And it needs to give the Eve community a reason to care.

Right now, it doesn't.

Embracing.

If Dust is to do what it says it's going to do, it needs to not be ignored by the Eve Community... And it needs to give the Eve community a reason to care.

Right now, it doesn't.

Its for console. That's the biggest reason for my lack of interest. I'm also weary of micro transactions. On top of that its a shooter. Another game about shooting people. Sci-fi can be a whole lot more interesting than that. We get to set foot on foreign planets and you want me to run and gun? Bleh.

I'm less inclined to try it as the PS3 seems like an outdated console now. If it wasn't, I would consider the console purchase as both a reason to try Dust and the other side of gaming.

The amount of s*ht talking about dust, from people never tried or just are angry cause its a playstation exlusive, is f*cking hillarious

Is Planetside 2 also completely free?

Another thing I found when playing Dust.

Lag. Really... Slow... Menu... Changes. Crap, but it takes a long time to switch between skills and market areas. In EVE it's almost instant, but in Dust it takes so long you forgot why you were going there in the first place. Same thing with trying to change fits on your dropsuit, and sometimes it doesn't even acknowledge the clicks or scrolling to a specific slot.

I really hope this has changed or will change soon, because it makes it all but unplayable for me. Can't be arsed to fit my suits or buy upgrades because it takes so long. Might be why I haven't been particularly successful since they rebooted my skill progression from the first round.

I did have some nice skills plus armor originally, but even found they weren't doing the trick against more skilled, buffed players. You really need to pick one suit and focus completely on it and one weapon to match to do decent over the initial stages.

Obviously, suggest Assault, as Sniper just doesn't have DPS or Protection, and their guns wobble a lot before skill kicks in. Heavy and Logistics take too long to get into to use right away, even though you technically can do Heavy, it's not worth it because you're a sitting duck with no skills.

Also, need Surround because it's too hard to fight well with blinders on, and the speed you turn at doesn't allow you to do squat when a guy comes up behind you and starts shooting. Armor gets Heavier and slower, and you turn slower, so whatever you are, you are done before you even see the attacker most of the time. Also allows Lights to just bounce and you can't keep up with them.

..that's another thing I don't like about it, tracking speed on a person. There is only one speed, and it can be improved, but it's not significant.

Trying not to break the NDA here, so I can't really be specific. Suffice to say, a 180 degree rotation can take more than 5 seconds when you are being shot. I honestly thought that was what armor was for.

I can make a suit that is light, durable, and capable of deflecting even armor piercing rounds, while having built in safeguards against crushing damage, bone-breaking twists and even heavy impacts. Shock absorbtion, built in heat protection, sealed environment if needed, and still have very good vision and movement.

I'm pretty sure that, even being hit by multiple rounds, the wearer would either bounce back quickly or still have the ability to move out of fire and engage the attacker quite easily if they were capable of reacting that way.

Prototyping would cost millions, so don't ask if I have made one.

..actually just thought of something to add to it, now that I've realized another potential flaw in the design. Sucks when you can't see out your visor because it's all fogged up from you breathing on it I imagine.

anyway.. slow. Laggy slow and slow.

Hopefully they've made adjustments in some of those areas, and release will see much smoother, faster menu transition. It's funny, because I'm sure the examples the Devs presented in their videos worked much better and faster than mine. Server proximity most likely.

And yet, for all that, I won't argue it is well designed and has incredible potential as a revolutionary shooter.

Hi,

We appreciate people are eager to make a point about this game one way or another, but the NDA for Dust514 is quite specific.
Please raise your feedback on the official dust514 forums please.

Thanks and fly safe.

Sorry, I was pretty non-specific and only included basic references to stuff that was fairly obvious from the Dust website as being available. Didn't think any of it was in any way a breach of NDA.

Edit: Removed NDA breaching material - ISD Suvetar.

I own a PS3 but I'm simply not interested because I don't play FPS all that much for years now (played Quakeworld and Q3 Rocket Arena in esports leagues, but lost interest at some point).

If I play an FPS, I play it exclusively on PC due to better graphics and controls.

Moreover, due to my general lack of interest in FPS, it has to offer really unique gameplay (like Day-Z) or somewhat decent gameplay combined with awesome graphics (like BF3) to lure me - Dust appears to have neither.

Last but not least, I despise the free to play approach.

Anyway - I'm obviously not CCPs target group when it comes to dust.

I expect it to fail hard, but hope it does decently enough to not lead CCP into bankrupcy.

You say better controls but Dust has Keyboard and Mouse support on the PS3, so that's a non issue.

What do people think of the economic impact Dust could have on EVE?...

There's an article recently gone live on TM.com that says dust is just going to be a huge isk sink for the time being.

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Was interesting to read though, specially the tips on character performance. My impression from the early videos was that as much as getting hit meant certain death 99% of the time no matter what the player was wearing... and apparently that's it.

In a meta world, i wonder why would anyone bother to send troops to battle if they couldn't take the slightest bruise to their ubersuits -would be better to send in robots and let the best hardware/software win the battle. Would be impressive to see billions of dollars ultraprecisely vaporizing each other in a few minutes, then the few remnants winning over the lunar landscape of annihilation left after the battle...

PC elitist are just mad that it isn't on PC, gurentee if dust was a PC exclusive they would sing praises about how its teh bestsauce.
it's easiest to not listen to these people. Dust so far is a pretty awesome game and it's sad that pc retards won't get to experience it.

SOE completely screwed Planetside back in the day, I don't see how Planetside 2 won't go the same route eventually. They're very fond of killing their games after a set amount of time, after all...

totally biggest pile of crap even seen..

We just really don't care, it's a console shooter for console tards. As long as they stay on their side of the tracks (the crappy side) so we don't have to actually see them we can coexist

so i'd like to know what your thoughts are on it and why?...