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Decent, sensible discussion is openly welcomed here, and everyone is entitled to their opinions. What they are not "entitled" to is hurling personal insults at other players or CCP and their staff. So lets see if we can continue with this topic sans the rule breaking

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Arguments and the like would actually really help get to the root of the issues you know? heh

It should be noted, Planetside 2 is PC only.

So it's not in direct competition with Dust 514.

We just really don't care, it's a console shooter for console tards. As long as they stay on their side of the tracks (the crappy side) so we don't have to actually see them we can coexist

Decent discussion is always welcome on these forums. Inciting people to break the rules of the forums however, is not. If comments are edited or removed, it is because they are in breach of the policies and rules that govern the forums, usually those breaches are because of (but not limited to) personal attacks, foul language or trolling.

We all want to have good solid discussions on the topics that we, as EVE players, have a vested interest in. So lets try and keep it sensible and free of rule breaking.

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Sony and Sharp have the same problem: lost power to innovate to Apple and the Koreans; high overheads; no new products," said Donald van Deventer, the CEO of Kamakura Corporation, a company that provides risk-management research.

Kamakura estimates Sony's one-year probability of default at 1.53 percent. "We generally consider anything above 1 per cent as somewhat risky," van Deventer said.

At the end of June its shareholder equity ratio, a key indicator of its financial standing, had dipped below 15 per cent, when a rate of 20 per cent is considered the healthy minimum.

Making Hirai's task harder, borrowing to help pay for Sony's turnaround became more expensive on September 25 when, citing persistent weakness in consumer electronics, Standard & Poor's cut its long-term debt rating to two rungs above junk. Rival ratings agency Moody's is set to deliver its judgment on Sony by November.
For now, Hirai is resorting to asset sales.

I hope it succeeds.
A: If Dust can stand on its own legs, the EvE profit will go back to EvE or new projects
B: Dust can be the test dummy for CCP for EvE "on foot" environments.
C. We grow our community as more people notice CCP. Not just for Dust, but for EvE as well when they want to support their isk habit. Which means more fodder for everyone and money for CCP to fuel more space stuff.

SOE completely screwed Planetside back in the day

I'm an avid Unreal Tournament 3 player so I consider myself pretty good at first person shooters. Thing is I don't own a Playstation 3, and I don't see myself buying one to play Dust 514 either.

So unless CCP comes to it's senses and ports Dust 514 to the PC, its just not something I'm interested in.

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Think about this, Sony don't want MS to get Dust based on the fact that it could actually work and be something amazing, Sony agrees to make the changes to their online infrastructure to allow Dust to work on the condition that Dust is made PS3 exclusive.

Why do Sony it as an exclusive? It's good for bragging about as its an exclusive, but most importantly, it keeps Dust OFF the PC for awhile so Sony can release Plantside 2 without any competition from Dust as they are both FPSMMO games and a lot of EVE players are playing Planetside 2, if Dust was being beta tested on the PC where would they all be? Testing Dust not Planetside.

I just thought I would try Dust. Noticed it was not avaliable for PC. Dropped the thought right away. And I own a PS3.

Prepare for the OP to tell you that you are close minded and give you what opinion he wants. He is not interested in hearing about the game being on PS3 and not PC. Apparently he feels this is a non-issue.

Like others I would most certainly give Dust a go, if it was on the PC. The last console I owned was the PS2, and since then I've never had any urge to get a console.

I'm all for Dust integration, and I'd liked to have played it.

Your articles are nice but I was never interested in first person shooters, I'm interested in Eve because it's a very different sort of game. I'm sorry I have to pile with the others, but I wouldn't go out and buy a model of a console which is past its heyday only to play the beta of a game that is unfinished.

I'd say you're making me feel terribly poor

As long as the the way it interacts with Eve is revealed with certainty, Dust takes place in the Dust world ; there are surely many ideas around about how the two would go together well but with things like ambulation, ring mining, revamping of POSes being in the pipeline for what appears to be forever, it looks much more sensible to devote oneself to what is really available.

If it really launches with a significant link to Eve it will also be only for Faction Warfare and frankly FW, with its world-encompassing isk-making connivance and pointless NPC empires, is the think associate with Eve the least.

Hopefully when we are finally able to explore derelict stations with our Avatars we will also be able to use guns. So we won't even need dust514 to get our shooting in face fix.